Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Mats Lewan
Jones, I tried to express a similar concept in a more 'popular' way in this blog post: http://animpossibleinvention.com/2015/02/10/time-to-dispel-the-streetlight-paradox-of-energy/ Bottom line -- sooner or later, efficient access to energy stored in matter will make scarcity of energy be a

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Stephen Cooke * That nucleons may actually disintegrate is nothing short of astonishing! Is this what they are actually saying? Did they really observe such huge amounts of energy? Yes precisely. This is why it will be more controversial than cold fusion until replicated. Many

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
What amazes me is that Gary T. Horowitz and Eva Silverstein make theoretical predictions based on their theories and when these predictions turn out to come true in the real world, they can't believe it. Very strange. You would think that these people would be excited by the prospect of using

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe? > Very much so. I should spend some time looking at the raw data. Holmlid may have something interesting. His interpretation may have sufficiently

RE: [Vo]:Re: Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Mark, Please ask about the lifetime of dense hydrogen, once formed, and the time frame for production (rate per mass of catalyst ??). Those are important details which are apparently not answered in Holmlid’s papers. Also the magnetic properties. My guess (in answer to Bob’s question)

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Why does it take so long for the Holmlid effect to manifest? When you have to pump energy into a population of black holes that stores huge amounts of energy, it take time and a lot of EMF power to do this. But once these solitons are well formed and their power storage threshold is reached, they

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might mean that hydrogen Rydberg matter(HRM) has formed in major part because gas is transformed into a solid. But the reaction does not take off immediately.

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jones, please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! Peter On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Very interesting presentation this morning. Ólafsson was both low key and > optimistic that Holmlid is onto something

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
thank you, it is fine, few things happen these days, at leats so we know. Peter On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > OK > > > > *From:* Peter Gluck > > > > > > Dear Jones, > > please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! > >

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
OK From: Peter Gluck Dear Jones, please allow me to offer this to my readers on EGO OUT, citing you. Thanks! Peter

RE: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thank a lot Jones Beene for this great and interesting report. If Holmlid process was some how creating dense material that enhanced the Stella type proton proton chain reaction, from deuteron proton reactions onwards that would already be amazing. That nucleons may actually disintegrate is

[Vo]:Fw: [teslafy] Is time an illusion or reality?

2015-10-23 Thread Harvey Norris
 Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Friday, October 23, 2015 9:40 AM, "harv...@yahoo.com [teslafy]" wrote:   Is time an illusion or reality? || |||| Is time an

[Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
A provocative question: If we accept Holmlid's research suggesting dense metallic hydrogen can be disintegrated by a laser pulse; and therefore - that this reaction can return mass-energy of about 6x10^23 GeV per mole of hydrogen, then what is the value of this fuel? This amounts to about 10^14

[Vo]:OCT 23, 2015, INFO AND A COMPARISON BETWEEN TWO FATAL ERRORS

2015-10-23 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/10/oct-23-2015lenr-info-two-stories-of.html there are some doses of desperation there. but constructive Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
More... See http://pieeconomics.blogspot.com/p/cavitation-radiation.html The reason why radiation is seen in cavitation is that there is not enough heat available in a water envirnment to setup a entangled ensemble of SPP black holes to counter the radiation produced in the spp formation

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
It is more complicated that just hydrogen rydberg matter. The same rydberg matter principle applies to any alkali metal. There is even more element that this principle applies to. And water can form this stuff too. Remember that Holmlid uses the tried and true potassium catalyst that thermicore

[Vo]:Re: Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Jurich
Here are the slides for Sveinn’s presentation, courtesy of Sveinn: http://tempid.altervista.org/SRI.pdf Bob Greenyer or some one: Please create a mirror and provide the link (via QuantumHeat.Org), as some may not be able to DownLoad from this site, easily. Thanks, Mark Jurich

Re: [Vo]:Re: Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Mark Jurich wrote: > Here are the slides for Sveinn’s presentation, courtesy of Sveinn: > > http://tempid.altervista.org/SRI.pdf I'm keeping track of every time potassium is mentioned, as it was in these slides. Eric

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Why does the LeClair reactor produce radiation and neutrons and the device invented by James Griggs does not? It’s a matter of temperature. The James Griggs device runs at an operating temperature of 400F, whereas, the LeClair reactor is not pressurized and does not. Since the Hydrogen Rydberg

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Frank Znidarsic
If we are going to consider small black holes why don't we consider small supernova explosions. We could even throw in the kitchen sink. -Original Message- From: David Roberson To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 4:39 pm Subject: Re:

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
SPP's are one thing, small black holes another. Why is there any reason to believe that a black hole is required to initiate LENR reactions? I suspect that SPP's can do the job without extra help. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
One of the tell tail indications that a black hole is involved is the cluster fusion mode in LENR reaction. This requires multiparticle entanglement. Only black holes produce this sort of entanglement(see ER=ERP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ER%3DEPR). Standard QM entanglement is monogamous. Only

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
Lets pray that rapid, large scale energy release by this type of material is not possible. I can not imagine the death and destruction that will follow if some of the speculation on vortex is real. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To:

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
My attitude is to wait and see proof. I have serious doubts that the evidence will survive proper scrutiny. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Higgins To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 10:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

RE: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Jones Beene
Mats, Nice effort. Your piece will be poignant lesson to mainstream physics – should Holmlid be shown to be correct - that physics is still in its infancy. Notice that the focus could now be shifting to Holmlid and a few others, and away from Rossi. Rossi filled a void in a way that

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Jones Beene wrote: That door could open to more than energy independence. In this connection, if the induced-decay stuff that Robin and I were discussing turns out to be a thing, there are definitely military applications. First one that

[Vo]:Re: Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Mark Jurich
Hi Bob (All): I can answer some of your questions now, but we are going to be continuing discussions of the talks at San Jose State University in an open discussion headed by Ken Wharton in the Science Building at 10:30 AM today (Friday) ... I will make sure all your questions are

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Bob Higgins
Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe? - That a dense hydrogen layer could form at all at room temperatures- and with a catalyst that is not even on the surface? So these catalyzed hydrogen atoms travel from the catalyst body to the receptor surface in some magic

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Believe it or not... After I saw the presentation on tachyon tracks: http://restframe.com/rf/home.html I started to read this article: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-11616.pdf The Inside Story: Quasilocal Tachyons and Black Holes It explains how and why Lief Holmlid

Re: [Vo]:One imaginary Future for dense hydrogen

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Why does the LeClair reactor produce radiation and neutrons and the device invented by James Griggs does not? It’s a matter of temperature. The James Griggs device runs at an operating temperature of 400F, whereas, the LeClair reactor is not pressurized and does not. Since the Hydrogen Rydberg

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a ANALOG black hole. Any wave structure in a vortex will produce a black hole even water. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMYcqxuZ_I On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM, David Roberson wrote: > But SPP's can be coaxed into

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:02:02 -0400: Hi Axil, [snip] >I got through to Holmlid but Holmlid does not believe in black hole LENR >causation. I am now faced with the bleak prospect of learning black hole >physics, string theory, tachyon physics and general relativity.

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Done that On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:55 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:02:02 -0400: > Hi Axil, > [snip] > >I got through to Holmlid but Holmlid does not believe in black hole LENR > >causation. I am now faced with the bleak prospect of

[Vo]:Fw: [teslafy] Three October Teslafy You Tube Videos

2015-10-23 Thread Harvey Norris
 Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Friday, October 23, 2015 8:18 PM, "harv...@yahoo.com [teslafy]" wrote:   Three October Teslafy you tube videos. I saw some contradictions so I hesitated

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
But SPP's can be coaxed into generating enormous magnetic fields. It is not too difficult to understand that these super fields can interact strongly with nucleons. Is there reason to believe that magnetic interaction by SPP's is not going to be adequate? The multiparticle entanglement

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
No, this analog light based black hole referenced in that video produces hawking radiation. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:09 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
See https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.114.036402 http://www.nature.com/news/hawking-radiation-mimicked-in-the-lab-1.16131 On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > No, this analog light based black hole referenced in that video produces >

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
Axil, I am on your side man On Friday, October 23, 2015, Axil Axil wrote: > Also see: > > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19508-hawking-radiation-glimpsed-in-artificial-black-hole/ > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Us against the world... On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:31 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Axil, I am on your side man > > > On Friday, October 23, 2015, Axil Axil wrote: > >> Also see: >> >> >>

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread David Roberson
I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Bosenove were detected in the DGT testing. THis occurs at the end of black hole evaporation. Also, tachyons have been detected inside these micro black holes. See http://restframe.com/rf/home.html It is well known in string theory, Tachyon condensation produces mesons from which muons a

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread Axil Axil
Also see: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19508-hawking-radiation-glimpsed-in-artificial-black-hole/ On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > See > > https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.114.036402 > >

Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI

2015-10-23 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:31:28 -0400: Hi, It occurs to me that lasers in plasmas have previously been used as bench top particle accelerators. I wonder if that also applies in Holmlid's experiments? (See e.g.