are one in hundreds of
trillion*trillion*trillions and even more. No one wants to debate it, they
just want to tell you that it's established science. Even wikipedia won't call
it established science.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Folks
are
one in hundreds of trillion*trillion*trillions and even more. No one
wants
to debate it, they just want to tell you that it's established science.
Even wikipedia won't call it established science.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote:
Folks, things
Folks, things are slow here, but some crybabies are complaining that I am
cluttering VortexL, burdening them and imposing on them. So, I am not going
to start a new Darwinian Evolution thread here.
But, I am issuing a challenge to anyone who thinks they understand Darwinian
Evolution better
Steven, I appreciate your point of view.
I will respond this last time on this subject matter here and then I will move
the discussion to VortexB and if you are willing to continue this discussion,
meet me over there. I think it's fun to try to understand another's point of
view.
Regarding
of Darwinian Evolution.
At 07:55 PM 8/29/2014, Jojo Iznart wrote:
Thus, Angels are in fact multi-dimensional creatures. They can come and go
into our dimension, assume any shape they like in our dimension
So far, so good.
and can occupy the same space at the same time in our dimension
My friend, if this is the only reason why you reject God and heaven, you are
missing out on a lot of things.
We vorticians enjoy intellectual stimulation. We debate arcane subject matters
like number of angels on the head of a pin. because we enjoy thinking,
analysing, deep analysis and other
The answer to this question is 100 million.
It may come as a surprise to many but the Bible may have an answer to this
question. I am answering this not to show how biblically knowledgeable I am,
but to show the skeptic that the Bible has many many answers to many many
difficult questions if
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From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 7:42 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
As pointed out, the odds for a mutation occuring that would
. There are new holes poked thru it
everyday.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 7:59 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
You seem
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From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
PS. Most of my responses are answers to queries. Carbon Dating
PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:
On 28/08/2014 1:11 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
John, my friend, you have a fundamental problem in your analysis. Your
unyielding adherence to Darwinian dogma
You are mistaken. I have no adherence to Darwinian dogma whatsoever. If
Darwinian
-
From: Eric Walker
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
PS. Most of my responses are answers to queries
-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 6:22 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
On 28/08/2014 11:14 AM, jwinter wrote:
If the necessary information is present from the beginning, then it only
needs to be triggered
but it also has major
shortcomings.
Only neo-Darwinists insist that all aspects of evolution must be explained in
Darwinian terms.
harry
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
You would have a point, and I would be with you if there are indeed only
one
: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 10:38 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
My friend, caterpillars turning to butterflies are not micro-evolution,
that is normal development associated with butterflies.
You think I don't know that!? Why don't you
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a slow time. If something interesting occurs, I'm sure people will
stop asking me questions and I will stop responding.
You should not begrudge
.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here
.
It could be that primitive life (bacteria) is present in many parts of the
universe and
survives on for instance frozen comets and is seeded over and over on fertile
planets and also destroyed many times.
Peter
From: Jojo Iznart
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:58 AM
+archeology
In your personal opinion, how long do you think the Earth has been around?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
From: Jojo Iznart [mailto:jojoiznar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:47 PM
To: vortex
+archeology
In your personal opinion, how long do you think the Earth has been around?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
From: Jojo Iznart [mailto:jojoiznar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:47 PM
To: vortex-l
You have a point.
Though my view is, it may not be worth making these elaborate modifications.
Are we striving for superaccuracy, or are we just trying to hit it in the
ballpark? To me, the most important question is to see if the input power is
in the vicinity of 5J. If it is, that would
, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring
what Mills has done,
which is with an input of about 200 joules.
Bob Higgins
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
You have a point.
Though my view is, it may not be worth making these elaborate
modifications. Are we striving for superaccuracy
Higgins
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
In his bomb calorimetry demo, he demonstrated an input of about 200+ J.
Correct me if I'm wrong cause I'm working from memory here. In the bomb
calorimetry, they seems to have demonstrated a COP of 4
John, my friend, you have a fundamental problem in your analysis. Your
unyielding adherence to Darwinian dogma is blinding you and preventing you from
asking the right questions. You assume Darwinian Evolution is true first and
that skews your analysis.
For example, you assume that the
If evolution is driven by a random process via random mutations, then evolution
can not be reversible, since it is unlikely that a random mutation would occur
that cancels out a previous random mutation. The odds are astronomical for
that to occur.
The fact that we see E. Coli gain penicilin
is correct, the whole reaction is chemical. If you have a better
idea for calorimetry, describe it.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
In my opinion. Calorimetry using water is a non-starter. There is just to
many points of entry where error can
to something that is not in its tool box.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Punctuated equilibrium
On 28/08/2014 1:17 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
If evolution is driven
You seem to be implying that you know that the Coelacanth is 350 million years
old from radiometric dating techniques. Please do tell, what sort of
radiometric dating tells you that it is 350 million years old?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To:
to contributing
to this becoming a flame like some of the other off-topic junk showing up on
Vortex-L (to which you seem to be contributing).
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
First, you can not guarantee that the water is 100% deionized, can you? DI
).
From a former biology teacher, ken
PS. don't call me, I'll call you back.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:
On 28/08/2014 1:11 AM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
John, my friend, you have a fundamental problem in your analysis. Your
unyielding adherence
wrestling a greased pig. God has big fuzzy dice and rolls them every day.
I hope that clears things up.
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
You illustrate a typical denial reaction that seems to have taken hold
here in Vortex. If you do not like
Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What
It is important to make this distinction because we need to be specific in our
definition of what is occuring.
Mircro and Macro has nothing to do with size or amount of evolution. It has
something to do with the mechanism of evolution. Many people nowadays do not
like to use the term
]:Evolutionists As Idiots
One reason why JoJo's systems do not work is that he spends a great deal of
time posting and not enough experimenting. He expects other people to do his
work for him.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest
together where
we can.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring?
By Darwinian Evolution - I mean
was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM
Subject: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Hi Folks,
I was excited to receive my spot welder
the water.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM
AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
could you try copper wire without dipping in water and also with nothing at
all. - no copper wire, just the electrodes. These would be your controls. to
compare it with samples with water.
Jojo
- Original Message
...
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here
Well, science is supposed to be observable and repeatable. That implies
a timeframe within our lifetimes. If you can not satisfy these 2 criteria,
it's not science, let alone settled science that Darwinists would like you
to believe.
Jojo
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From: Orionworks -
Because the mechanism is different.
Macro-Evolution stipulates mutations that results in features that confer a
survival advantage. These changes occur from generation to generation.
This is the definition of Natural Selection.
Micro-Evolution involves changes in features within a single
dipping in
water. What do you think--more intense?
Jack
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
consider grinding a titanium bar into powder and then forming a small
pellet with water. This should be the quintessential Mill's fuel pellet. See
How do you know that my friend? Do you have your own Climate Model?
It's statements like these that make me conclude Axil does not really know what
he is talking about. He keeps spewing statements like these which no one
challenges.
Look, the latent heat of fusion of water is 334kJ/kg, while
My friend, you're the one causing great controversy and much questions for me.
I'm simply responding to questions. I haven't started a thread about religion
at all. You and other start the discussion about religion this time around.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Daniel
-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution
.
See the picture at the bottom of the post.
http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2014/08/26/sun-cell-lite-testing/
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, looks like the last two are indeed more intense. Could it just be a
trick of the camera? Does
How about following Randy's lead. Why not use a small solar panel and measure
electrictiy output. Just make sure you zero out the ambient light, or test it
in the dark. Surely, this will be able to register small light intensity
differences.
Jojo
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From:
dipped in water and put
between the electrodes. The amount of water is minuscule (the amount that
managed to adhere to the metal). You don't get that without the water.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
was that the spark with or without fuel
(and any changes related to running the current
through the wire on the control run).
The constantan wire disintegrated on the last experimental trial.
On Aug 26, 2014 10:38 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
That's some good work Jack.
Are the wire diameters and lengths
meter, but that would
be the power going in to the transformer.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Dave,
A very thin film of water on a piece of wire should not change the
impedance that much. Certainly not explain the clearly more intense
system to get to the bottom of this issue.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Dave,
A very thin film of water
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple
In my previous existence here, Nigel and I engaged is quite a long
discussion about evolution. We did it offline. At that time, I asked Nigel
to provide evidence of what he considers to be clear proof of evolution.
I don't believe he has satisfied that criteria.
So, now, I would like to ask
Well, we have conducted evolution experiments in the lab where we subjected
bacteria to artificial stress to stimulate macro-evolution. These accelerated
trials would be the equivalent of millions of years of natural selection. And
yet, what did we find? We find that the bacteria did change
Failure to mate and reproduce demonstrates a genetic problem, not
demonstrate a Macro-Evolution event.
Oh is that why your not getting any? Hahaha.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
We used to think that mating and reproduction
Even if this were true, the same events would open up vast tracts of the
northern American Continent for agriculture. There is little agriculture in
the Southwest so impact of a megadrought would be minimal to the US food
security picture.
Even considering your worst case scenario. it is
Actually, reproduction by cellular mitosis would favor evolution. If
Macro-evolution is occuring, cellular mitosis should prove it quickly. Why?
Because one one set of genes can produce a trait that would confer a survival
advantage.
If reproduction is by cellular meiosis. both mutations
. it is still a plus overall for
humanity.
Unlikely this will be a plus for Humanity. More like a tragedy as nothing
will grow, and place that do get rain will get too much of it.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Even if this were true, the same
I think we should step back and ask ourselves (or Jack) what the goal of this
replication attempt really is.
Is it to fully test the energy balance. In which case, we need to measure
energy output via a calorimetry setup, which greatly complicates the setup and
introduces myriad of error
This is not OT since this is science.
A few threads ago, a fellow here challenged me to provide evidence for the
inaccuracy claims I made about radioneucleotide dating. It took me some time
to find it but here are some:
1. Living Mollusk Shells dated 2300 years old - Science vol 141,
OK, what would be the explanation why different parts of the mammoth would be
dated so widely differently? A few hundred years maybe acceptable, but
thousands of years is ridiculous. The only explanation is that the technique
is faulty and unreliable.
The dates are all after 1950s. So your
: Re: [Vo]:Accuracy of Carbon Dating
JoJo,
Jed is correct, experimental data and the models based upon them can be
incorrect, just like weather and climate data and models.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
Jed,
The examples I enumerated are samples that appear on a scientific paper of wide
circulation. Do you think these are all errors? Don't you think they would
have checked for errors before publishing it? Your contention that these
measured dates are errors simply do not make sense.
My dear ADD friend, that is the reason I provided 4 mammoth dating examples.
Cause I knew someone will retort using a senseless reason like you just did.
The widely differing results clearly show that the technique is inherently
unreliable, no matter what Radionucleotide you use.
Jojo
Danny boy, I wanted to respond to this assertion earlier but I was laughing so
hard, that I had to calm down first before I can respond sensibly.
So, the river is between 0-600,000 years old using K-AR dating. Well, praise
mother earth, that is some useful result. Heck, why do we even need to
Genesis 6:1-5
It talks of fallen angels coming down to mate with female humans producing a
hybrid race of wicked Giants called Nephilims.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Accuracy of
Oh ... the decay rates are accurate and more or less stable all right. It's
the assumptions surrounding this that I have a lot of problems with.
For example, how can we assume that C-14 levels are the same today as they were
5,000 years ago? There is proof that C-14 levels have not reached
12:34 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
Genesis 6:1-5
It talks of fallen angels coming down to mate with female humans producing
a hybrid race of wicked Giants called Nephilims.
Jojo
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Thank you for your education. It's quite more reasonable to suppose that the
Nephilim are aliens than legends. After after all, random words in the Bible
are more trustful than science.
2014-08-25 13:00 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
But since you appear to be ignorant
2014-08-25 12:49 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
For example, how can we assume that C-14 levels are the same today as they
were 5,000 years ago?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
, that I question
your ability to make science.
2014-08-25 13:24 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
Is it because it is repeatable?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
-
From: jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Accuracy of Carbon Dating
On 25/08/2014 8:33 PM, Jojo Iznart wrote:
...A few threads ago, a fellow here challenged me to provide evidence for
the inaccuracy claims I
Bob, please read the context in which this number came up? CB was talking
about the increase which he claims would bring the global average to 42.8F,
which I point out he probably meant 42.8C
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Bob Cook
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday,
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Accuracy of Carbon Dating
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
The examples I enumerated are samples that appear on a scientific paper of
wide
Dating
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Cold Fusion then is not science since it is not repeatable.
Of course it is repeatable. It has been replicated thousands of times. Please
stop making ignorant assertions. Read the literature before commenting.
- Jed
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring?
By Darwinian Evolution - I mean Macro-Evolution of one species (One kind)
turning into another species (another kind). I do not mean micro-evolution
This is my problem with anonymous Axil. He says things like this with such
certainty and conviction as if it were truly accurate. People reading this
does not realize it is just Axil's theory.
We know high current works, but how does Axil know High Voltage works the same?
Has he tried it?
this possible. We need to follow his instructions carefully on this
subject and his second project is to teach us how to make a reactionless drive.
:-)
Time to hit the sack...zz
Unsigned
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l
Maybe I'm just too dumb to follow, but does distance have to do with age?
Are you saying that the shortest distance they will measure is 30,000 light
years, hence the age is 30,000 years?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Rocha
To: John Milstone
Sent: Sunday, August
Hmmm... That's interesting, Cause I saw Obama's motorcade in Pensylvannia Ave
in Washington DC this morning. They were travelling at 50mph. I'm 300 miles
away right now. So, I guess Bambi must have started his travel 6 hours ago,
since It would take them 6 hours to travel 300 miles at 50
We scare people with 6C temp rise but we ofter neglect to examine what a 6C
rise really means.
I submit that it won't be bad, in fact, I believe it would be beneficial to
mankind. More planting seasons, more planting land reclaimed from ice, and
more steady temps in temperate regions for more
No, I'm not in the Philippians, I'm in the Philippines, and I did not see
Bambi's motorcade in Pensylvannia Ave either.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:38 AM
Robin is right.
Except that we don't realize that these aliens are not extraterrestrial
BIOLOGICAL beings from another planet. These ALIENS are aliens to our
dimension. They are INTERDIMENSIONAL beings of spirits, fallen angels and
demons, controlling our destiny thru their proxy of wicked
What? Extinction of LIfe?
My friend, I am here in the Philippines today, and my roof temperature is 48C.
Last month it was over 50C. The sun is beating down on all our crops and quite
obviously, they are not dead. What are you talking about?
Let me tell you what a 42.8C temp will do. It
I hope my point is now ultra clear to readers. Axil is basically saying the
temperature oscillation is related to Global Warming. Hence, my point, that
Global Warming theory has an all-inclusive symptoms list. Everything is due
to Global warming.
INTRACTABLE RIDICULOUSNESS
Jojo
Jed, your comparison seems appropriate at first glance, except you forgot one
thing.
Actuarial Studies and Medicine are fields of science with solid
mathematical,experimental and actual data. It is hard science that is
refutable and falsiable and has stood the test of time.
Global Warming
at 11:30 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Frank. Did the tester indicate to you
privately the reason for the delay, even if it is something they don't want to
say in public?
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Frank Acland
Global Warming is the only field in science that can get away with an
all-inclusive symptoms list.
If it's hot, it's due to Global Warming
If it's cold, it's due to Global Warming.
If it's raining, it's due to Global Warming.
If it's not raining, it's due to Global Warming.
If the Glaciers are
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread/
As reported in e-catworld. It seems the TIP2 testers are having a lot of
disagreements; hence the delay in the release of the report. This does not
bode well for the ECat. I have been one of a few that think too many warning
-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:07:08 AM
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/08/20/e-cat-report-watch-thread
I am not rich, but I will soon be. Richer beyond my wildest expectations. It
was God who gave me the knowledge how to build the wave-powered pumps at a very
low cost. There is no doubt the knowledge and skill came from God to do this.
And I will give it all back to build thousands of
You seem to be implying that one can not be both a Christian and Rich. If so,
I can assure you that is not the case. Here are a few examples for you:
1. Joseph was a believer and was the 2nd in command in Egypt. He was rich in
power, money and Glory
2. Abraham was very rich with
not Christians.
2014-08-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
You seem to be implying that one can not be both a Christian and Rich. If
so, I can assure you that is not the case. Here are a few examples for you:
1. Joseph was a believer and was the 2nd in command
/matthew/19-21.htm
2014-08-20 15:13 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com:
They were believers in the true God just like Christians today. But if you
want to be picky and unreasonable about it, here are a few examples of rich
Christians.
1. Joseph of Arithmatea was rich. He
the religious crap offline. It doesn't belong here.
To remain on topic, Defkalion's web site has been suspended.
http://defkalion-energy.com
Doesn't make me feel very confident that a LENR device is forthcoming.
- Brad
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
wrote
if I recall correctly. They
were Jewish...right? Not sure that it really makes that much difference about
this particular subject.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 1:51 pm
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From: Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Polarized ECat Testers
Sure, you can be optimistic and read it that way; but it seems clear in the
context of the statements, that the Polarized opinions
. While they mostly lack
credibility, such accusations may be effective at polarising debate and
reducing understanding.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all
In Reply to Jojo Iznart:
You just love making stuff up. You would have
being conned.
Hi all
In Reply to Jojo Iznart:
You just love making stuff up. You would have a great future writing for the
Daily Mail, they write lots of fairy tales too.
This is what it says in the report Jojo Iznart is referring too in full
rather than Jojo Iznart's spin
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