On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> I think DGT is simply trying to let everyone know that Rossi isn't the only
> kid on the block who is working on this exotic technology. I bet someone on
> the BoD may have said something to the effect of: "Hey! We got
Robert Leguillon wrote:
Completely concur. These are the kind of test environs that I'd expect to
> see. Also, their technical posts were always at least logical (e.g.,
> experimenting with different coolants for a single-phase primary loop).
That's for sure. Better to keep it in liquid phase,
Completely concur. These are the kind of test environs that I'd expect to see.
Also, their technical posts were always at least logical (e.g., experimenting
with different coolants for a single-phase primary loop). They always came
across as more "ready for primetime" than Rossi.
I'm eagerly awa
From: Jed
> This document is unprofessional. The photographs should have captions,
> like the ones in the Scientific American or a trade magazine. A
> caption should tell the reader what this is, and what the significance
> of it is. Like so:
>
> An reactor (nn cm x nn cm x nn cm). O
I bet they keep you dying from boredom.
Harry
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
>
>> You have the attitude of a hostile witness.
>
> My unicorns make me testy. They're invisible and keep playing mean tricks
> on me.
>
> You have the attitude of a hostile witness.
>
My unicorns make me testy. They're invisible and keep playing mean tricks
on me.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
>> Both Rossi and Defkalion are doing their best to keep all the decision
>> making in their own hands and out of the hands of their propagandist
>> detractors.
>
> Could you be kind enough to define "propagandist detractors" and how it
> applies t
This document is unprofessional. The photographs should have captions, like
the ones in the Scientific American or a trade magazine. A caption should
tell the reader what this is, and what the significance of it is. Like so:
An reactor (nn cm x nn cm x nn cm). On the left is a canister of bla
At 11:59 AM 11/14/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
hey also said they would soon make a megawatt plant and give the
excess heat to the Police Academy **this winter**. It's almost
winter. How soon people forget.
U ... on this one I don't. The 1MW the were planning to use is
the one they intended t
At 10:54 AM 11/14/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
Absent specifications and independent test results, it's all pure guesswork!
On this one I agree with you ... absent even a "witnessed demonstration".
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> It's no doubt a less frustrating exercise than trying to label all the knobs
> and doo-dads on the Crimson Dynamo's spiffy red suit, but that's about the
> best I could say for the exercise.
Far less frustrating to label all the knobs
On 11-11-14 04:34 PM, Robert Leguillon wrote:
Defkalion wasn't obligated to release anything. The pictures do show that they
were working on the product, and appeared to have invested more into it than a
few pipes and elbows.
This news is great, because it lends a lot more credence to their c
Defkalion wasn't obligated to release anything. The pictures do show that they
were working on the product, and appeared to have invested more into it than a
few pipes and elbows.
This news is great, because it lends a lot more credence to their claims that
more information will be forthcoming.
.
> Oh, come now. The second photo, labeled "Hyperion in assembly", is
> actually quite sharp
> It's low resolution, nothing's labeled, nothing's explained, and, if the
> thing really is "in assembly", then the reason it's already hooked up to a
> big blue gas-tank-looking thing is not entirely c
On 11-11-14 03:33 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
Defkalion showed a few blurry images of some lab equipment.
Oh, come now. The second photo, labeled "Hyperion in assembly", is
actually quite sharp.
It's low resolution, nothing's labeled, nothing's explained, and, if the
thing really is "in assemb
>
> Both Rossi and Defkalion are doing their best to keep all the decision
> making in their own hands and out of the hands of their propagandist
> detractors.
>
Could you be kind enough to define "propagandist detractors" and how it
applies to the discussion of scientific claims? I can sort of g
“I have seen nothing to suggest it and I would be careful not to base any
decision whatever on it.”
Both Rossi and Defkalion are doing their best to keep all the decision
making in their own hands and out of the hands of their propagandist
detractors.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mary Yugo
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> I refer to your posts on the Defkalion site. You repeated a million times
> (maybe a few less) that they should show you anything at all. That was
> your desire for many posts and now they have done what you requested. Now,
> you need t
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From: Mary Yugo
To: vortex-l
Sent: Mon, Nov 14, 2011 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, David Roberson wrote:
I have followed your suggestions for several months now. You have made the
point that
>
> Whatever they do, you will demand more, and more, and more. You will move
> the goalposts down the field, out of the stadium, out of the parking lot .
> . .
>
I am asking the same I always asked. They provided one tiny part of it.
And a very weak one.
> They announced they will soon provide
Mary Yugo wrote:
>
> It's interesting that they showed what appears to be a prototype Hyperion
> apparently with some sort of test set up. It's far from proving that they
> have a working fusion reactor!
> I would have expected them to show a large room filled with people making
> Hyperions.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, David Roberson wrote:
> I have followed your suggestions for several months now. You have made
> the point that Defkalion should show you anything at all. Why do you now
> argue about them fulfilling your request? You should be satisfied.
>
It's interesting t
, 2011 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.
Well, considering Defkalion claimed to be setting up for making hundreds of
Hyperions per year in the first quarter of next year, and claimed without
evidence that they had submitted applications to the Greek
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Of note: The gas cylinder is blue - indicating nitrous oxide.
Ammonium nitrate is good for something more than fertilizer and bombs.
If you heat it to a liquid form and boil the liquid with a magnetic
stirrer, the compound breaks down into n
Well, considering Defkalion claimed to be setting up for making hundreds of
Hyperions per year in the first quarter of next year, and claimed without
evidence that they had submitted applications to the Greek authorities for
permits to test and sell the devices, this is pretty disappointing.
My th
Of note: The gas cylinder is blue - indicating nitrous oxide.
Heck, that could be what Rossi has been huffing, no?
Hydrogen bottles should have a red shoulder. Perhaps the bottle is simply
not up to spec, or perhaps they flush with nitrous.
Different countries have different gas color codes (USA
Heck, SK might be inclined to catch the next flight out ... since he can
still save-face with this story, if he gets it right this time - even if he
was generally wrong about Rossi.
After all, Glyfada ... a.k.a. the "Beverly Hills of Greece" is an upscale
suburb of Athens - home to many of Greece'
>From Terry,
> Should I sent SK a link to the press release?
Certainly!
Investigative reporters should always endeavor to read the latest
reports regardless of their origins.
...shouldn't they???
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
>
> I agree. Makes me wonder if DGT has had a chance to notice any
> unexpected isotopic shifts. Actually, DGT might not yet have had
> enough time to run the reactors long enough to make such a
> determination. Don't the react
Should I sent SK a link to the press release?
T
>From Terry:
> Can't be sure of what we are seeing; but, it could be a Rossi-type
> Reactor. Good to see they are working in stainless steel instead
> of copper.
I agree. Makes me wonder if DGT has had a chance to notice any
unexpected isotopic shifts. Actually, DGT might not yet have had
enough
Can't be sure of what we are seeing; but, it could be a Rossi-type Reactor.
Good to see they are working in stainless steel instead of copper.
T
Roarty, Francis X wrote:
> IMHO Defkallion should make their own powder, I don't give Rossi's micro
> tubules have any great advantage over the nano powders of other researchers.
As far as I know, Rossi's powder is much better than anyone else's. It is
far ahead of Piantelli's solid material.
to an active heat sink or not activated by a chemical process until it
already annealed.
Fran
From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:54 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab releas
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Von: Robert Leguillon
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 14.11.2011 14:54
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> This may be pointing to the earlier theory (purely supposition):
> Rossi really improved Ni-H technolog
This may be pointing to the earlier theory (purely supposition):
Rossi really improved Ni-H technology. His reactions were hard to keep stable,
so he kept "tuning it down" to keep it stable. When it was 100% stable, he'd
actually turned it off and was only producing reactions that could be explai
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Von: David ledin
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 14.11.2011 14:04
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> Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.
>
> http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEAS
Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf
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