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I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great problems
of corrosion.
Rule No. 6 of problem solving says
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Datum: 28.11.2011 09:15
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PeterH,
as far I remember the Liaw et al paper is published
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PeterH,
as far I remember the Liaw et al paper is published in the Proceedings of
ICCF-2. I
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Alternatively you could ask the main author- he is still active/young:
http://www.hnei.hawaii.edu/template2.asp?userID=bliaw
He has continued the work, after Pd with Ni but this was also abandoned
Corrosion is something I always suspected that would lead Rossi to the use
of a bit of copper with nickel Rossi, given that such alloys are more
resilient to electrochemical processes.
2011/11/28 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
I think, this says all.
This guy is a professional electrochemist and without doubt he has 1000fold
more possibilities than I.
If he gave up, he has doubts himself.
He gave up because he could not get funding. That is what he told me.
This approach is
Found this paper referenced on the web: Journal of Electroanalytic
Chemistry.JEC 319 (1991) 161-175 Elevated-temperature excess heat
production in a Pd D system, by Liaw, Tao, and Liebert. Couldn't find
it in the lenr-canr archives. It does seem to be a significant peer
reviewed result.
Liebert's still around :
http://www.me.hawaii.edu/faculty/liebert.htm
You've probably googled these already, but here's some related stuff
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2doc=GetTRDoc.pdfAD=ADA282335
CHARGING HYDROGEN INTO Ni IN HYDRIDE-CONTAINING MOLTEN SALTS
It was in the 1990 paper :
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Liebert's still around :
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/F/F199010.PDF
1990 : EXCESS HEAT USING MOLTEN-SALT ELECTROCHEMICAL CELL
By Professors Liaw, Tao, Turner, Liebert
As an example shown in the last entry in TABLE I, the
How in H**L was that result ignored? But then again if 300 Ktons / y of
Rossi's Nickel fuel (at 2.3 tons / TWh) will reduce the amount of fossil
fuel used for energy production to zero, well there could be a reason.
AG
On 11/28/2011 11:31 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
It was in the 1990 paper :
From:
http://faq.ecat.com/112449/how-much-nickel-and-hydrogen-will-it-take-to-generate-one-megawatt-of-heat-continuously-for-six-months/
it will take 18 kg H and 10 kg Ni fuel to generate 4.4 GWh of heat =
0.44 GWh / kg of Ni fuel,
2.3 kg of Ni fuel / GWh,
2.3 tons of Ni fuel / TWh
300 kTon of
World demand for nickel peaked in 2006 at 1.4 million tonnes; it is now down to
about 1M tonnes. 300K tons is not going to be that hard to supply... and the
transition from petroleum-based energy to CF/LENR (if it happens, and is not
delayed for decades by legal battles) will ramp up over
From an Australian point of view and seeing we have the world's largest
Nickel deposits, I suspect that as demand increases there are a few
Nickel mines and refineries that will spring back into life. I expect
the E-Cats that are rolling off the assembly line in 2 years will use
less Ni per
I spoke with Liaw at ICCF-2 Como 1991. The system had very great problems
of corrosion.
Rule No. 6 of problem solving says: NOT the main desired positive effect,
but those secondary negative and/or undesired effects decide in most cases
if a solution is implemented.
It seems corrosion was so
The usual black pot witch's brew -- ah, yes, severe corrosion -- would
Heffner or Cude like to give this one a close shave -- more details
than Rossi -- be fun to practice on something new -- any followup
research by anyone?
within mutual service, Rich Murray
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