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As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
mounted the barricade and roared out:
Also consider this, what to you think would happen if the human race,
in it's present sinful condition, got loose in the galaxy?
I don't know what
leaking pen wrote:
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and
man is inherently sinful...
No, no, you don't have that right.
God created the angels, the Nephilim, and the human race, but His track
record, which is documented in the Bible along with various
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
Incidentally, if God used one of Adam's ribs to create Eve,
Adam's ribs, mmm!
http://www.adamsribs.com/
Terry
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for taking the time to express your POV on this interesting subject.
I enjoyed your dry sense of humor, rare that it was, that occasionally
poked through the rhetoric and ideology.
IMHO, your sense of humor is very wise. Hopefully there may come a
time when you may allow
Stephen sez:
...
Whatever, if the lot of you are going to pursue this silly subject,
at least try to get the references right, and don't just *ignore*
the ones you don't like.
(BTW the Bible actually looks a lot more consistent if we (a)
abandon the zero-error approach and (b) attempt to
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Also, theres no good quote showing that satans fall DEFINATELY
happened after man was created, no?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Hmmm, interesting question! I'm glad you asked me that, young man!
Next question, please!
(Errr... Perhaps God's ability to foretell the
Im saying, especially with the power shown in names by god (Giving to
Adam the power to name all animals, and thus control them by their
name) ect, wouldn't creating a tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
and naming it as such, basically CREATE the concept of evil, if it did
not already exist?
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for taking the time to express your POV on this interesting subject.
I enjoyed your dry sense of humor, rare that it was, that occasionally
poked through the rhetoric and ideology.
IMHO, your sense of humor is very wise. Hopefully there may come a
time
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
leaking pen wrote:
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and
man is inherently sinful...
No, no, you don't have that right.
I agree, it was Lucifer's rebellion that brought sin into the world.
God created the angels, the
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between, if evil did not yet exist?
Good question, I wonder what the Zohar has to say about it.
Also, theres no good quote showing that satans fall DEFINATELY
happened
Are you suggesting that the 4th planet is what happened the first time
Satan got uppity?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote:
leaking pen wrote:
why would god create a tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the
ability to tell the difference between,
Hi Thomas,
Well just keep this in mind, the world's condition continues to
deteriorate, and time will not be yours for ever.
I never owned time to begin with.
FWIW, some of the worst experiences in my life occurred when I
attempted to own and subsequently control time.
My two cents.
Regards
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As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
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Also consider this, what to you think would happen if the human race,
in it's present sinful condition, got loose in the galaxy?
I don't know what
leaking pen wrote:
Are you suggesting that the 4th planet is what happened the first time
Satan got uppity?
He was a murder from the beginning.
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Hi Thomas,
You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
seems (at least to me) to comprise a very exclusive membership for
acceptance to The Rapture one must:
Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow man
as your self. That is the minimum.
Nicely argued, Steven. Unfortunately Christianity is so filled with
such obvious conflicts with logic and even with statements in the
Bible, that a person could spend years trying to make sense of the
religion, as some scholars have attempted to do. Unfortunately, the
general public does
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
Believe, be baptized, follow the 10 commandments, love your fellow man
as your self. That is the minimum.
Another distinguished Vort member, Leak, has already responded with
what Jesus
My thought has always been, if god created man in his own image, and
man is inherently sinful...
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what
Believe, be
Harry Veeder wrote:
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I think one of my main objections to the
thomas malloy wrote:
It hasn't happened here yet because we have freedom of speech, at
the moment. However the Hate Speech Legislation is moving through
the congress. It will criminalize telling homosexuals that they are
living in impenitent sin . . .
There are any number of real problems
Hi Thomas,
You brought up many interesting issues for which most are ripe for
comment. I will try to restrain myself and endeavor to remain on-topic
of this OT subject thread: The Rapture.
I asked:
I'm puzzled, Thomas. What are your criteria for qualification for
rapture status?
You replied
Well, to go for classic evangelical christian belief, likely that
jesus is the son of god, died for our sins, and that salvation can
only come through him. Oh, and that, even though Christ himself
rejected large parts of the laws of the old testament, you have to
follow them verbatim. except
leaking pen wrote:
Well, to go for classic evangelical christian belief, likely that
jesus is the son of god, died for our sins, and that salvation can
only come through him.
I think you leaked a word or two here; this sentence contains only
dependent clauses. What's the proposed righteous
Umm,
Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath
fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them
shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the
rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any
leaking pen wrote:
Umm,
Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath
fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them
shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the
rivers, of all that move
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I love scallops. Pork too, for that matter.
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Ohh, sorry. My original comment was being sarcastic, in that you had
to follow all the laws of the old testament, except, it seems, EATING
shellfish or WEARING two fabrics at once, since most evangelicals seem
to feel those arent important anymore.
I figured that with a smart crowd like this, I
leaking pen wrote:
Ohh, sorry. My original comment was being sarcastic, in that you had
to follow all the laws of the old testament, except, it seems, EATING
shellfish or WEARING two fabrics at once, since most evangelicals seem
to feel those arent important anymore.
I figured that with
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
You brought up many interesting issues for which most are ripe for
comment. I will try to restrain myself and endeavor to remain on-topic
of this OT subject thread: The Rapture.
I asked:
I'm puzzled, Thomas. What are your criteria for qualification for
rapture
Sigh. So many forget that last one, and Jesus said he felt it the most
important commandment.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:14 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote:
OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
You brought up many interesting issues for which most are ripe for
comment. I will try to
Hi Thomas:
...
Your recent response to Grok:
Another interesting comment. You may have heard that
certain Christians believe that one of these days a
trumpet is going to blow, and they are going to
vanish. Well I'm one of them. That's why I'm not just
too concerned about the world's
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I think one of my main objections to the concept often described as
The Rapture is that for many it would seem to imply that there is
absolutely
Grok,
I was asking Thomas, not you.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
And doing so on an open list, not private email. which means he has a
right to respond as well.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Grok,
I was asking Thomas, not you.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Leak sez:
And doing so on an open list, not private email. which means he has a
right to respond as well.
Grok,
I was asking Thomas, not you.
Of course Grok has the right to comment. You did, didn't you?
My comment still stands.
It is Mr. Malloy's perception that I'm interested in, not
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I think one of my main objections to the concept often described as
The Rapture is that for many it would seem to imply that there is
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Date: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture
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OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas:
...
Your recent response to Grok:
Another interesting comment. You may have heard that
certain Christians believe that one of these days a
trumpet is going to blow, and they are going to
vanish. Well I'm one of them. That's why I'm not just
too concerned about
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