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From: Lennart Thornros
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news
I am absolutely sure we will have a large portion of the population change to
a LENR generator as soon as it is made
I am absolutely sure we will have a large portion of the population change
to a LENR generator as soon as it is made available.
I do not think it will happen over night. Many reasons for that all based
on the fact that changes are always hard to accept for most people.
Utilities and government
where does came the idea that DC is safer ?
as engineer during high power electronic course I was clearly taught that
100V DC was sure deadly with no chance to survive (you get stuck on the
wire until you die), while 220AC is quite forgiving with a chance to escape
100 time a second...
is that
My traditional ernergy bill consists of an amount that can roughly be split
as follows:
- 10-20% transport to home
- 60-70% tax
- 10-30% raw energy costs
This with all having profits and overhead included.
LENR reactors will certainly challence such model in the Netherlands.
Apart from domestic
my vision on evolution of electricity is based on jed vision.
the big question is how the utilities, the grid will react.
if the grid moves quickly to a microgrid, a mesh-grid, a smart producer
grid, then people will be happy to save some investment on their CHP with a
sharing platform.
If as I
I have published this
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/yu-n-bazhutov-answers-news-coming-fast.html
for the 6th Monday of this week
wish you a fine weekend,
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
DEar Jones,
with your permission I will repeat your points in the editorial of
tomorrow- very consistent.
Thank you,
Peter
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* Peter Gluck
From: Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/01/yu-n-bazhutov-answers-news-coming-fast.html
wish you a fine weekend,
Quote from Peter’s Blog worth repeating here: “It is still a Parkhomov moment,
the world is waiting his new results to be announced on 27 and 29 January. He
helps
one point about blackswan not so black.
even Taleb agree that most blackswan could be predicted.
But the people who took the decision could not see it.
most blackswan, even fukushima, were in fact predictable with existing data.
most blackswan are simply whiteswan kept in a dark room.
Subprime
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*But somebody must lose** in this picture**.** The big question mark: can
th**e upcoming** tidal wave** be stopped by OPEC/Big Oil** …** or is it
too late for** them**?*
My answer based on history:
No, it cannot be stopped by them, and yet, no, it is
The personal home based LENR reactor is not going to sell. But a utility
based high output LENR generator station will be readily accepted by the
utilities. DGT and Rossi are wasting time in developing a home based unit.
Personal power generators are only installed in a few well to do
households.
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
A home owner will not tolerate the requirement to change his LENR powder
every 6 months on all the hundreds of his electrical devices.
There is no reason to think cold fusion device will need to be changed out
every 6 months! That's silly. Some have
To: vortex-l
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news
Micro-computers are being replaced with WEB based display units where all the
applications are centralized on the web: Office 360.
A home owner will not tolerate
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
If what all you say is true, why isn't cogeneration more common?
For the reasons explained in my book. A small electric power generator
today has many disadvantages over a large one. It costs more to run per
kilowatt-hour, because it is inefficient. It has
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 17 Jan 2015 21:24:12 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The whole distribution and control system will be
scrapped, and that alone will cut your electric bill by half or two-thirds.
So even if the individual generator costs a bit more per kilowatt of
capacity, it will
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Personal power generators are only installed in a few well to do
households. Everybody else uses the GRID. This is true now and into any
foreseeable LENR future.
I disagree. When the technology matures, using cold fusion in a central
generator will cost
In an apartment building complex in which 10,000 people live, it is cost
effective to wire the apartments together to the city wide GRID than to
install a separate LENR reactor in each apartment.
This GRID decision is based on population density.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, computing is become grid based. Its all about energy return on energy
investment. If the LENR power unit can produce far more power that it takes
to build and maintain it, then it has a chance to replace the grid. But I
don't see this LENR EREI yet.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:44:55 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Micro-computers are being replaced with WEB based display units where all
the applications are centralized on the web: Office 360.
A home owner will not tolerate the requirement to change his LENR powder
every 6
., have a
patent on such a thermionic source.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news
The personal home based LENR reactor is not going to sell
Yes, computing is become grid based. Its all about energy return on energy
investment. If the LENR power unit can produce far more power that it takes
to build and maintain it, then it has a chance to replace the grid. But I
don't see this LENR EREI yet.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Jed
If what all you say is true, why isn't cogeneration more common?
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, computing is become grid based. Its all about energy return on energy
investment. If the LENR power unit can
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Sun, 18 Jan 2015 00:12:31 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
one point about blackswan not so black.
even Taleb agree that most blackswan could be predicted.
But the people who took the decision could not see it.
most blackswan, even fukushima, were in fact predictable with
to me like Bill Gates, Woods, etal., have a
patent on such a thermionic source.
Bob
- Original Message -
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
There is tremendous overhead to this method [a centralized one]. It is
needed with today's generator technology but it would serve no purpose with
cold fusion.
I for one will not miss power lines.
Eric
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I for one will not miss power lines.
You won't miss paying for them either. They cost roughly a third of your
electric bill in many places. It may not seem that way, but you have to
take into account the cost of repairing them after storms. At this
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Micro-computers are being replaced with WEB based display units where all
the applications are centralized on the web: Office 360.
And those web based applications run on itty-bitty microcomputers velcroed
together. At least, mine do. I use Google apps.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:44:40 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The personal home based LENR reactor is not going to sell.
Nah, and neither will them new-fangled personal computer things. ;)
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Humanity will continue to migrate into the city from the remote
countryside Cities will house people in high concentrations.
In high concentrations, central generators may remain cost effective for a
while. Eventually, all machines will have built in cold
Micro-computers are being replaced with WEB based display units where all
the applications are centralized on the web: Office 360.
A home owner will not tolerate the requirement to change his LENR powder
every 6 months on all the hundreds of his electrical devices. If his
refrigerator fails
of power transmission lines.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:two answers from Bazhutov and current LENR news
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Humanity will continue
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
In an apartment building complex in which 10,000 people live, it is cost
effective to wire the apartments together to the city wide GRID than to
install a separate LENR reactor in each apartment.
It is now, but it will not be when cold fusion power supply
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