Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Nigel Dyer
The energy gain of about two is based on an energy in of 850J which gives the appearance of having been typed in rather than measured, possibly based on information about the voltage and current that was applied. It would have been nice to have had more details. It would also have been good

RE: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Jones Beene
From: Nigel Dyer The energy gain of about two is based on an energy in of 850J which gives the appearance of having been typed in rather than measured, I must have missed something Nigel. Are saying the COP of this demo is about 2 ?

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: I must have missed something Nigel. Are saying the COP of this demo is about 2 ? I vaguely recall this as well. I did not watch through the entire video, but instead just saw segments. I believe Mills claimed power

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread James Bowery
The demoed COP was slightly above 2. The claimed potential COP was infinite. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: I must have missed something Nigel. Are saying the COP of this demo

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Nigel Dyer
They dont explicitly say anything about COP, but it a reasonable interpretation of the display that is shown at 1:17:32. Energy in top left, COP in the middle. The figures could of course refer to something else, but I think that if I was doing the experiment then this would be the figure I

RE: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Jones Beene
From: Nigel Dyer They dont explicitly say anything about COP, but it a reasonable interpretation of the display that is shown at 1:17:32. Energy in top left, COP in the middle. The figures could of course refer to something else, but I think that if I was doing the experiment

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread James Bowery
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Anyone can claim 100:1 in a theory. More to the point: Anyone can claim a theory. The question is can the theory be experimentally tested? This is and has always been the problem with cold fusion. Until it is solved,

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Lennart Thornros
James I liked your comment. Why not accept COP of 2. Then you can recirculate that a few times and a factor 64 will be there in 5 more steps. OK it is not as fantastic and revolutionary as the many theories indicate (btw they are way over my pay grade). I often see references to airplanes and the

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-04 Thread Bob Higgins
While I don't mean to under-celebrate Mills' over-unity success, please note that this COP of 2 is to THERMAL. However, In Mills' case, the thermal energy appears to be relatively high enthalpy and efficient conversion to electrical for feedback to the input may be possible. With a COP of 2 to

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Axil Axil
In the second demo, Mills et al are producing an excimer laser effect by using chlorine in the chemical mix. That type of laser will generate EUV which produces water cluster detonation. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Craig
On 02/03/2014 02:14 PM, Nigel Dyer wrote: http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new He sounds so certain that it's hard to believe his theory has serious errors. I am not qualified to judge it. Craig

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2014-02-03 Thread Axil Axil
One big problem in LENR reaction analysis is the confusion between cause and effect. Many analysts judge an accidental effect produced by the primary cause to be the ultimate cause. Mills is confusing symptoms with primary causation. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Craig

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Axil Axil
One of the critical things that Joe Papp did to enhance EUV production was to pass his spark through alpha emitters like radium and thorium. This is a LENR reaction where radioactive decay is accelerated and photon emissions from isotopes are greatly amplified. The more EUV that you can be

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread James Bowery
Does he do any control discharges? By that I mean: Did he demonstrate what happens if you don't include the water but send the same electrical energy through the system? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote: http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Craig
He says he's ready to license the technology, and that there are companies he's going to meet which may do that. He thinks that a prototype could be built in a 'lightning fast' period of time, maybe a couple of months. Craig

RE: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Craig He says he's ready to license the technology, and that there are companies he's going to meet which may do that. He thinks that a prototype could be built in a 'lightning fast' period of time, maybe a couple of months. Well this is déjà vu all over

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread James Bowery
Measurements of the energy output and spectral evidence for the hydrino theory start at 1:16:25 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig He says he's ready to license the technology, and that there are companies he's

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Measurements of the energy output and spectral evidence for the hydrino theory start at 1:16:25 Thanks! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Bob Higgins
Has anyone noticed that in Mills' drawings of the MHD converter that he has the direction of the coils and the B field wrong for the directions that he wants his positive and negative ions to travel? At 53:13, he is showing a slide with an axial B field and presumably with the plasma split and

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
I agree Bob. He needs to rotate the coils 90 degrees as you point out. Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Jeff Driscoll
Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out Has anyone noticed that in Mills' drawings of the MHD converter that he has the direction of the coils and the B field

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Jeff Driscoll
@eskimo.com Cc: Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out Has anyone noticed that in Mills' drawings of the MHD converter that he has the direction of the coils and the B field wrong for the directions that he wants his positive

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out I haven't seen that picture but based on earlier stuff I've seen that axial magnetic field acts as a guide for the expanding plasma - the plasma first travels axially and then intersects the transverse field at the ends, when it hits the transverse field

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread AlanG
To me the most interesting part was the q+a toward the end. From about 1:53:00 to 2:05:00 he finally cuts loose from the script and makes a strong case for the quality and significance of his research. It left me with a somewhat improved impression of BLP's prospects. The engineering

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread David Roberson
, Feb 3, 2014 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out I haven't seen that picture but based on earlier stuff I've seen that axial magnetic field acts as a guide for the expanding plasma - the plasma first travels axially and then intersects the transverse field at the ends, when it hits

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Bob Higgins
I haven't made it to the QA yet. Mills talked about there being a 100:1 energy ratio between gasoline and water. In other words, a car would go as far on 1 gallon of water as 100 gallons of gasoline. He made the case for a microliter of water producing 1000J of excess heat which is about 1

Re: [Vo]:BLP video is out

2014-02-03 Thread Bob Higgins
It is interesting to do a little math around this experiment. Presume that the popper is operating with a fuel of 1 microliter of water and produces a net excess energy of 1000 joules. Presume Mills to be correct in assigning most of the reaction is conversion to 1/4 hydrino state that is