Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Cook
It is my understanding that even quark spin can be aligned in a strong magnetic field, since a magnetic field can penetrate right through a nucleus. It does not stop at the boundary by some magnetic stop sign. Thus I would say even your isospin particles can be polarized in a strong magnetic

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- Note the following conclusion of the Wiki item on neutron magnetic moment: While the results of this calculation are encouraging, the masses of the up or down quarks were assumed to be 1/3 the mass of a nucleon,[31] whereas the masses of these quarks are only about 1% that of

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, What is your evidence for your statement: The Lugano isotope data, even if it could be believed, completely negates the entire scenario since Li-7 is NOT depleted according to the Lugano report - but instead is converted to Li-6. What I drew from the report was the only thing that can

[Vo]:LENR theory in statu-nascendi-discussing the Cook-Rossi paper

2015-04-08 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends, Please help me by verifying my raw calculation from: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/04/taking-good-parts-of-cook-rossi-paper.html please read the rest- you get the opinion of an real expert. Actually two. Eventually read the last part and support the idea, it can be decisive

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Axil is correct in that the Be-8 and He-4 cannot project large spin energy transfer. It does not help that spin can be anti-parallel when it is based on 0 spin particles to begin with (they would not decay if that was the case) … however… There is an interesting isotope of helium,

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Axil Axil
In the one example in which we have a full accounting of the element percentage in the fuel and also as transmuted in the ash is the DGT transmutation assay provided in the ICCF-17 paper. In that assay, there was a large percentage increase in light elements including lithium, beryllium, and

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Cook
I am not surprised that He has not been reported from the Lugano E-Cat test heretofore. Helium is hard to collect, being an inert gas, and at temperatures it diffuses rapidly in porous materials. I would have said much of the He in the Lugano test would have escaped the reactor, either during

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Cook
I would have said Rossi is the most credible person in the field of LENR and not desperate for credibility given his apparent RD knowhow. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 11:07 AM Subject: RE:

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
Surprise, surprise. Fresh on the heels of a paper which suggests that lots of helium should have been found, Rossi suddenly reveals that yes, we found it but are just now taking the opportunity to reveal that we found it.

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Jones, What is your evidence for your statement: The Lugano isotope data, even if it could be believed, completely negates the entire scenario since Li-7 is NOT depleted according to the Lugano report - but instead is converted to Li-6. First of all, there is a

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread torulf.greek
May be of interest. https://fys.kuleuven.be/iks/ns/files/thesis/raabephdthesis.pdf On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 10:51:24 -0700, Jones Beene wrote: FROM: Bob Higgins Jones, What is your evidence for your statement: The Lugano isotope data, even if it could be believed, completely negates the

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread torulf.greek
There have been p/Ni lenr with K and no Li. On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:18:36 -0700, Bob Cook wrote: I am not surprised that He has not been reported from the Lugano E-Cat test heretofore. Helium is hard to collect, being an inert gas, and at temperatures it diffuses rapidly in porous

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, we DO know that there is a large imbalance in the distribution of 7Li in the ash. Look at the difference between the SIMS results which provide isotopic analysis of the material near the surface, and the results of ICP-MS which is a bulk analysis of the particle. The surface shows change

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook I am not surprised that He has not been reported from the Lugano E-Cat test heretofore. Bob – As someone who is dedicated to seeking answers to the most important problem facing society in the coming decades – how to get off of addiction to fossil fuel - you should be

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
Blaze- Disregard previous numbers. I’ll try to calculate the internal pressure at day 30 another way. The point remains that if lithium fusion is responsible for the gain, lots of helium needs to have been produced and the reactor probably could not have tolerated the pressure. From:

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Jones, we DO know that there is a large imbalance in the distribution of 7Li in the ash. I agree with that – as far as it goes. The problem is that the imbalance is entirely consistent with having mixed pure Li-6 isotope with LAH containing the natural ratio

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
Well on second look, at day 32, the internal helium pressure at 1200 C is about 2000 psi if indeed the Lugano excess heat calculation was correct (it wasn’t) which could arguably have been tolerated by the reactor. About 0.03 moles of helium would have been produced at 8 MeV per atom to give

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Eric Walker
Hi, On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Levi and his team were reportedly paid half a million bucks ... Do you have a source for this that goes into more detail? Eric

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Jones, it is possible that helium was observed and was originally discounted as error. That happens. On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Surprise, surprise. Fresh on the heels of a paper which suggests that lots of helium should have been found, Rossi

RE: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Blaze Spinnaker Ø Jones, it is possible that helium was observed and was originally discounted as error. That happens. Not when this much claimed energy has been seen. Think about the implications. The Lugano experiment supposedly generated 2 kW excess for 30+ days. This is

Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea Rossi

2015-04-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Amazing that some folks have no trouble accepting 16 MeV is the source of LENR energy but quickly discount that 500 keV of spin energy can impart linear momentum due to centripetal disruption of weakly bound particles. -Spin Cartel