Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

watch out for "total protonic reversal" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyKQe_i9yyo Harry

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

The descriptions in 5,8) below suggests that Holmlid's reaction produces a high muon flux that would escape the reactor. A high muon flux would be very similar to a high beta flux. First of all, it would seem that a flux of charged muons would be highly absorbed in the reactor walls. Those

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Bob Higgins wrote: The descriptions in 5,8) below suggests that Holmlid's reaction produces a high muon flux that would escape the reactor. A high muon flux would be very similar to a high beta flux. First of all, it would seem that a flux of charged muons would be highly absorbed in the

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Here is an image of ATLAS. http://www.atlasexperiment.org/photos/atlas_photos/selected-photos/full-detector/0511013_02-A4-at-144-dpi.jpg The guy standing in the bottom/center gives an idea of the Scale. Heck LH doesn't need a miniature version - that is an unnecessary delay: the version that

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

When you think about it - why would CERN want to test Holmlid's device ? Isn't it lose, lose, lose for them... if the test is successful? Hundreds of lucrative jobs could be lost. Prestige is a stake. Big science is at stake. Where is the silver lining for CERN? Of course, the "science"

[Vo]:about quality and progress in LENR classic, info

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RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Amongst the thousands of scientists who work with CERN most are still driven by true scientific curiosity, the holiest of holy's. Alas many are simply avaricious testosterone mutants, those sorts of personalities all to often float to the top where they are noticeable by all three senses.

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Russ George wrote: No insinuation by me I simply don’t trust anyone who stands by Huizenga! Who's standing by Huizenga? Eric

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Has Holmlid enlisted outside help in characterizing these charged and neutral radiations in this latest paper? I've been hoping he would do so for years. To summarize what has instead been reported in papers leading up to this one: an alleged muon, pion and kaon radiation field, inferred from

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Holmlid uses bubble detectors to check for neutrons and no bubbles have ever been seen. The production of quack soup through heavy element ion collisions that they do at CERN have to produce some neutrons. On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Russ George wrote: > Not so

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Hi Russ, On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Russ George wrote: Huizenga being the lying conniving troll that he was reneged on his > commitment. Anyone who stands by Huizenga as a credible person is either a > complete fool or a disreputable troll. > Perhaps you're

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

That’s good to hear that Holmlid is using bubble detectors, they are superb for this sort of measurement. It’s of course all about how many activations might take place. From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:30 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:New

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

No insinuation by me I simply don’t trust anyone who stands by Huizenga! From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 11:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid. Hi Russ, On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Russ George

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Not so fast! It's hardly so simple as just putting an unknown physics experiment next to a valuable detector. No one would be foolish enough to risk the trying to catch the unknown in such a rare net of the known without some preliminary tests. I once was lent a very sophisticated detector to

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Eric--- You would think so that the high energy folks at CERN would comment, unless they are concerned about their future at CERN. I would pick others to give reputable reports on muons. I would look to the comments of retired high energy physicists that worked on the super collider in

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Holmlid et al are planning to put a miniaturized version of their > experiment inside a full scale particle detector. My guess is that that > detector will be ATLAS since Holmlid is in contact with the particle > physics at

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Eric-- In other words. DOA, dead on arrival… Bob Cook From: Eric Walker Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:44 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid. Has Holmlid enlisted outside help in characterizing these charged and neutral radiations in this latest paper? 

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Holmlid et al are planning to put a miniaturized version of their experiment inside a full scale particle detector. My guess is that that detector will be ATLAS since Holmlid is in contact with the particle physics at CERN. Holmlid is working with Sveinn Olafsson who is a nuclear physics who

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Some of us in the cold fusion experimentalist world offered in public in front of witnesses to demonstrate cold fusion to Huizenga, who agreed though insisted he’d do so only in a lab of his choosing, the lab agreed, independent scientists volunteered to witness. Huizenga being the lying

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

IMHO the Holmild reactiom is not LENR—LOW energy nuclear reaction nor a LATTICE assisted nuclear reaction. The high energy particles belie LENR. The key question is: “HOW DO ALL THE NEUTRAL PARTICLES GET THEIR SIGNIFICANT ENERGY”. It seems from Holmild’s description of the experiment that

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

The vital question is about the rate vs. distance for the emergence of detectable muons. Surely there is a distribution bell curve regarding which we cold fusioneers are most interested in the nearest limb of that distribution. This then speaks to the reaction rate producing the meson beasties

[Vo]:Tillerson Says China Should Be Barred From South China Sea Islands

This is actually about energy policy. I expect that Trump's Sec. of State Tillerson will be in charge of energy policy. He was the head of Exxon until a few weeks ago. He says that the U.S. should bar the Chinese from accessing the islands they have recently constructed. See:

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Proton proton involves the creation of charmed and strange quarks(the D-meson?). When you figure out how those guys work, explain it simply so that both me and your grandmother can understand it. On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 7:40 PM, wrote: > I would question why a neutral

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

I believe there are circular arguments going on here. On the one hand you are saying that neutral mesons are decaying into muons (charged) far from the reactor. But also there is the claim of fusion in his reactor, wherein many are supposing MCF. He is also measuring charged particles in his

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

What is confusing you is that Holmlid has changed his mind based on further research. He now says that the energies produced at the primary point of the reaction on the collection foil produces far too much energy to be derived from fusion. Holmlid states that this energy comes from double proton

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

IMHO in the Holmlid experiment, ultra dense hydrogen (UDH) is produced in the presence of hydrogen by the iron oxide/potassium catalyst and falls onto the collection foil. That foil is made of a noble metal: iridium, palladium, or platinum. ​What this metal is made of is important because that

[Vo]:Wyoming’s Utilities May Soon Be Banned from Buying Large-scale Renewables

This is yet another example of the fossil fuel industry using government to stifle progress and competition. See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2017/01/wyoming-s-utilities-may-soon-be-banned-from-buying-large-scale-renewables.html

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

I would question why a neutral KAON CAN NOT DECAY INTO 2 NEUTRAL MUONS? IF THE DATA ON NORMAL KAON DECAY IS FROM HIGH ENERGY 2-BODY REACTIONS, THEN RESONANT STIMULATION OF D AND P BY EM MAY RESULT IN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT RESULTS STATISTICALLY—I.E., 2 NEUTRAL KAONS INSTEAD OF A + AND – PAIR BEING

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

The significance of the theory that the Dutch theoretical physicist Erik Verlinde offers as an alternative to the dark matter particle idea has great import and application to the LENR paradigm. The basic idea behind Erik Verlinde theory is the gravity can be weakened when ambient matter in

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

Ultra dense hydrogen is a natural state of hydrogen when it is absorbed into metal lattices. It is just that simple, Martin Fleischmann spoke endlessly of this from the very beginning. Almost all who have been successful have clearly followed similar paths to making ‘sweet spots’ in their

Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

I seem to remember a old LENR truism that has come down over the years which remarks about how a shock is required before the LENR reaction starts. When I first began my studies of the LENR reaction so very long ago, I may have read this in regards to the work from perhaps the most famous Japanese