Here's an older article I found:
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GodesRquantumfus.pdf
Jeff
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:
Lou suggests:
If so, the effectiveness of the stimulus could be quite sensitive to
waveform shape and frequency.
I just attempted to post a comment to a well-known cold fusion web site
that appears, on the surface, to be doing independent reporting. In the
comment, I mentioned a competitor of A. Rossi (the competitor I mentioned:
Brillouin).
The comment was subject to automatic moderation.
Curious, I then
The mod software on the site doesn't appear to be quite that simple minded.
Dunno. Sorry for the noise.
Jeff
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
I just attempted to post a comment to a well-known cold fusion web site
that appears, on the surface, to be doing
Within the last few hours.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17.shtml
Jeff
Krivit, sorry. Sheesh.
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Within the last few hours.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17.shtml
Jeff
Widom Larsen postulate that the neutrons are produced when a proton
captures an electron. The process is endothermic (energy must be supplied
or it will not occur) so the neutrons initially have extremely low energy
(cold). As a result they are nearly stationary and don't leave the
material. Also
explanations. The underlying physics of the Ni/light water systems
may have nothing to do with the physics of Pd/Deu systems and so on.
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Widom Larsen postulate that the neutrons are produced when a proton
captures an electron
This comment has apparently turned out to be astute ...
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
If it involves a shock procedure it sounds similiar to the
piezonuclear systems studied by Cardone et al
and they too obeserved neutrons.
Piezonuclear neutrons
The sheesh was because in my original mail, I spelled his name wrong.
Which seemed rude when I realized I had done it. I was not intending to say
anything about content with the sheesh.
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
All of the pre-prints were
Good calorimetry is difficult, but comparisons are not. Wouldn't it be
sufficient to demonstrate two parallel implementations, one with an
unprocessed CONSTANTAN wire and no H2, one with a processed wire and H2,
and measure the difference using the same approach?
Why do I even have to pose this
So I understood, but then the flip side: why the questions about the
calorimetry? Again, what am I missing?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
He did it...
2012/8/18 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Good calorimetry is difficult, but comparisons
I think the point of (b) in the original message was that today's posting
by Rossi talks about a 1MW plant using the future tense. Which seems to
conflict with some prior statements by Rossi.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The efficiency of a gas
I am curious about the weak and erratic comment. What about evidence like
this -
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Dash-Effect%20of%20Recrystallization-Paper.pdf
This doesn't look that hard to reproduce - the main problem is access to
the spectrometer-equipped SEM,
Thanks for writing this, I was also scratching my head trying to figure out
whether Godes and W-L were saying the same thing or not.
Minor comment: I think you typo'd 782MeV when meaning 782KeV.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 03:06 PM
I saw this too. It's a quote. The word proprietary actually appears 6
times in the Godes document, in relation to this and other aspects of the
work. It seems unlikely to be an accident or temporary.
Celani also describes the large help of an unnamed Italian company with
respect to processing the
This is a very refreshing response. I certainly hope you are correct.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
I suppose that if this work all holds up, the mainstream scientific
community may get what it deserves
On the one hand I think there may be some bad science reporting at work
here - the abstract (as opposed to the phys.org summary) doesn't use the
term energy release, only hydrogen release and hydrogen
absorption/desorption.
On the other hand, I recognized hydroborate from the ICCF papers on
If you open this link:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf
It turns out that the PDF contains three separate and unrelated LENR papers
stuck together end to end.
The second of the three papers is analysis of the applicability of W-L to
grin right, the author has nothing nice to say about W-L.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Better save it before Krivit purges that!
2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
If you open this link:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012
I was thinking about this overnight and I think the right answer is
probably somewhere in the middle. Suppose you are able to obtain a working
LENR device containing e.g. powdered Ni or a Pd-coated cupronickel wire or
whatever. You can certainly put the active material under and SEM and a
Thanks. Very much appreciated (both of them).
Jeff
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 02:02 AM 8/18/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
So I understood, but then the flip side: why the questions about the
calorimetry? Again, what am I missing?
I've
of the experiment?
Jeff
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device
If you open this link:
http://newenergytimes.com
(measuring instrumentation
aside). But my total lack of academic credibility would mean I'd be unable
to influence the larger discussion in a meaningful way.
Jeff
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 07:30 PM 8/18/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
I am curious
Radio-Frequency Emissions !? Is there prior history of the detection of
RF emissions from F-P type experiments?
Jeff
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 2012-08-20 21:23, Peter Gluck wrote:
[...]
I am very sorry but Pd is not good
In between the time of the patent application and the ICCF paper, Dr.
Celani also made available these slides:
http://www.iscmns.org/work10/Celani.pdf
which also speak to materials processing, including SEM photos of prepared
wires and failed attempts to prepare wires.
My interpretation of the
I don't know, but there was a Fredrick's of Hollywood ad on the page.
Coincidence? I think not. ;-)
Jeff
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
from Jed:
...
...
...
I wouldn't opt for a physically larger car just because it was cheap to run
it. I would opt for a heavier small car, though, for safety reasons.
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote:
On 08/24/2012 12:54 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at
Just out of curiosity, does the Thermite reaction work with nickel, i.e.
something like ... Fe2O3 + 3 Ni = 3 NiO + 2 Fe?
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.bewrote:
Is Iron another catalyst of Rossi? If I’m not wrong he said that there
are more than one
not absolutely sure.
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.bewrote:
Good idea! I’m not sure Fe2O3 + 3 Ni = 3 NiO + 2 Fe is exothermic or
even if this reaction may exist.
** **
--
*From:* Jeff Berkowitz [mailto:pdx...@gmail.com
Having a neutrino detector in your lab would be quite an undertaking. The
small one in Sudbury is 40 feet in diameter and full of D2O. Back of the
envelope, I make its weight about 1000 metric tons (which is about 2.2
million pounds for metrically-challenged people).
Jeff
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at
I have a specific question and there might be relevant information in the
book.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Metal-Hydrogen-System-Properties-Materials/dp/3642055990
This is just curiosity on my part. The answer is unlikely to lead to much
of anything.
Jeff
I have used that quote myself many times, always in the sense that author
Cartwright says is incorrect. So I sent him a polite email asking why he
believed that the more conventional interpretation is the wrong one. I will
email the list if I get a response.
Jeff
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:23
I see your point. Glad I was polite. I will follow up with him.
Jeff
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
I have used that quote myself many times, always in the sense that author
Cartwright says is incorrect.
I
To me their privacy policy looks like a lot of other web sites - in fact
better than some. But yeah, that is a really weird list of people and their
backgrounds for a technology start-up, no matter what you may think of
their technology.
Jeff
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:10 AM, John Page
Or perhaps you meant something in the Terms of Use page?
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
To me their privacy policy looks like a lot of other web sites - in fact
better than some. But yeah, that is a really weird list of people and their
backgrounds
Would that be Russell's Teapot you're referring to? ;-)
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
And tea kettle.
T
My back of the envelope scratching suggests that a like-sized
three-dimensional region of a fuel bundle in a conventional LWR fission
core produces just about the same amount of energy. That volume would
accommodate ~4 linear feet of ~100 fuel rods which would produce ~1 MW.
Note: I am not a
used for the thermal number in the previous mail.
So I think the thermal density Rossi describes is about 1/3 of an operating
commercial LWR fission core.
Jeff
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
My back of the envelope scratching suggests that a like-sized
A patent is not the only way to protect an idea. In practice, trade secret
law may be more important. This is particularly true when the idea to be
protected is not the product itself, but the process used to produce it.
Consider the high-K metal gate process used by Intel at the 45nm and 32nm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzLobQxY6gg
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
A cold fusion nuclear reactor that that puts out as much energy and
density as a common nuclear reactor cannot possibly be dangerous.
2012/8/31 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
It's a question with many nuances. I generally agree with Jed about the
realities and the regulatory issues.
Yet at the same time, we have an example: the terminology change from NMR
to MRI. It was significant from perspective of consumer acceptance, and
therefore it was economically significant.
There is an interesting update on Krivit's site - about the site itself,
not about LENR.
Jeff
and accessible to the public.
All news stories published before Sept. 15 will also remain free.
Jeff
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an interesting update on Krivit's site - about the site itself,
not about
I keep wondering who else might have accumulated data that could be
analyzed. I.e. who might have collected data from a long-lived source under
consistent conditions over a long enough period of time. Maybe monitoring
equipment from cold war era waste sites.
Jeff
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM,
I don't know how Kim at Purdue is regarded in this group, but aside from
his theoretical work, his ICCF-17 paper proposes three experiments along
these lines. They are: (a) Determine the velocity distribution of deuterons
in metals, which he states is expected to be different from an ideal gas.
Aside from the issue of getting an electron be modified as you describe,
the electron would tend to be taken up into the s1 orbital by one of the
protons, forming a stable 1H atom, would it not? In other words, you're
describing a metastable state, like the proverbial dog who starves to death
Yeah, this might be interesting enough to motivate another few weeks of
frantic reading. And I just got done with electron capture, sheesh. ;-)
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM, helloke...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Energy comes from proton mass depletion
So... the way to test this theory is to weigh
Similarly, I think the point to item (6) is that you cannot patent the
*substance
*that is produced by nuclear transformation. I think the reason for this
statement appears right in the paragraph Jed quoted: in general, you
*can *patent
new compositions of matter, e.g. a new plastic, etc. Their
They're not Navy Seals, silly. They're aliens. The Navy Seals thing is just
cover.
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Those aren't body guards, those are his Navy Seal handlers making
sure he does not escape or give out too much information.
T
;-)
All right, I stand corrected. Just one alien under the cover of being an
ex-Navy Seal then.
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM, h...@haikolietz.de wrote:
**
I was wrong, just one bodyguard.
the strong funny guy is FLAVIO FABIANI, a LEONARDO engineer.
Am 08.09.2012 22:17, schrieb Andre Blum:
New Energy Times' blog has been updated to report that Nature has published
an obituary for Martin Fleischmann.
It costs $18 to get the whole text.
At least they're consistent.
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/
Jeff
You can use various on-line charts like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature to guess at the inside
temperature, and this calculator
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/stefan.html to run
various estimates of the heat radiation of the open end and of the rest of
the black
I think it's fairly simple actually. Mr Rossi has chosen to organize his
efforts as a commercial enterprise, rather than as a scientific enterprise.
Therefore, proof occurs when somebody can buy one, and the customer reports
that it works, even if just to some limited extent and with extensive
Inline...
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific publication approach or commercial enterprise approach: choose
one.
Why choose one? They are not mutually exclusive. Mainstream companies
routinely
I have been meaning to ask about this! I will start a separate thread.
Jeff
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote:
yes we should keep archive, for a future Nuremberg Trial on Wikipedia...
same for peer-review, magazines, and other insults
2012/9/9 James
Just in case this all pans out the way we hope, I think it would be great
to assemble the historical quotes about CF/LENR that would taste best when
eaten, if you know what I mean.
Someone might already have done this, in which case a pointer is fine.
Otherwise, hoping for quotes that can be
quotes sent to me a while back. I put them on an XML file,
to learn XML. The stuff only runs on Microsoft Explorer now. The quotes
are linked below open with IE.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter0.html
Frank Znidarsic
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx
Lasers not necessary? Hasn't Celani been reporting a negative temperature
coefficient of resistance that appears about the time his processed wires
begin producing heat? I might have this wrong ...
Jeff
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:59 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:
Low Energy Neutron
coincidence.
Jeff
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:
Lasers not necessary? Hasn't Celani been reporting a negative temperature
coefficient of resistance that appears about the time his processed wires
begin producing heat? I might have this wrong ...
Jeff
-boost-superconductivity
-- Lou Pagnucco
Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
To answer my own question: yes, here
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CelaniFcunimnallo.pdf on page 3, in item
(3)
of the numbered list.
Of course, it could be some unrelated effect; but decreasing electrical
resistance
Fractals boost superconductivity
http://physicsworld.com/cws/**article/news/2010/aug/13/**fractals-boost-
**superconductivityhttp://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/aug/13/fractals-boost-superconductivity
-- Lou Pagnucco
Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
To answer my own question: yes, here
http
http://www.google.com/patents?id=WhIgAgAAEBAJpg=PA1lpg=PA1dq=%22Low+Energy+Nuclear+Reaction%22source=blots=Xuf1yRH2vBsig=142QFcoB_2WmhjeCiLVn9AuUGlUhl=ensa=Xei=qEROUKH4JsjSrQHKmIGoBwved=0CD4Q6AEwBQgoback=.gde_4132340_member_161859049#v=onepageqf=false
Isn't this sort of big deal? Not so much
I'm old, so I'm old school. I'm not a physicist, just an experienced
observer with a basic science education.
After a few months of intensive reading, I'm squarely in the transmutation
don't get no respect camp.
I particularly like this one:
That comment is a bit over my line. I think Abd's position is appropriate
at this point in time.
Jeff
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
It's simply the order in which the
I didn't mean to take a shot at you Terry.
Answers to your three questions. How long? Not long (although I've followed
the subject on and off since 1989) - no credentials here. Trying to deceive
us? No. Incompetent people? No. I believe we do them a favor by being
professionally skeptical and
This page is not widely known? --
Dozens of scientific papers were published between 1905 and 1927
concerning the mysterious appearance of hydrogen, helium and neon in vacuum
tubes. The matter never has been resolved.
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/nelson2_6.html
Jeff
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at
The calibration wire is just a nichrome wire, or so it says on the slide.
Nothing was said about doing any special processing on this wire.
There's something else weird about the slide. The last bullet at bottom
says the R/R0, of both wires, just slightly increased (as expected),
increasing the
I read Mr. Godes paper the day it appeared on the New Energy Times site (I
think that was back in July?). I immediately had the feeling it was
important. At the same time, the word proprietary appears six times. It
seems clear that Mr. Godes believes the road to progress is a working
device, not
Godes probably wouldn't agree. Fwiw, he seems to be an advocate of an
electron capture kind of hypothesis as opposed to a fusion kind of
hypothesis.
Electron capture hypotheses roughly substitute the miracle of coming up
with a missing ~0.8MeV (along with some quantum mumbo jumbo) for the
miracle
I'm having a hard time making sense of this on several levels.
For a one thing, the Mosier-Boss results (including the paper you link
below and previous papers, all found in a page on their site) document fast
neutrons, not thermal neutrons. For another thing, fission would put the
lie to their
Jones, did you take pains to keep the wires and connections out of the
electrolyte? How did you attach the wires to the coins? Did you do anything
special to prepare the surface of the coins, or just use dirty old
circulating nickels? ;-)
Thanks!
Jeff
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Jones
I got email on the from a lurker about this too. Agree. In an electrolytic
cell, the cathode is the one connected to the negative terminal of the
power supply, and this is the business end for H2.
Jeff
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Interesting, but
, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 04:14 PM 9/21/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
I got email on the from a lurker about this too. Agree. In an
electrolytic cell, the cathode is the one connected to the negative
terminal of the power supply, and this is the business
The dissolving in salt water is a matter of course, actually. I used to
work on fixed sonar equipment. It's astounding - the first time - what
happens to dissimilar metals in salt water when there is a small current
flow for one reason or another. But quickly you just learn from your
elders: tell
Based on comments in this thread you should be prepared to run for
considerably more than 8 hours. Give yourself at least a day and then you
should be prepared to run for a while if you want to make sure you're
observing anything interesting, so call it 48 hours.
Again based on comments in the
The world faces an unimaginable fate: the demise of the helium balloon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19676639
Only LENR can save us!
;-)
Jeff
More generally, there is some evidence that if you just give the immune
system something external to worry about, autoimmune activity may subside.
Warning, link describes a therapeutic approach you may find gross.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy
Jeff
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:48
Regarding the Dardik/Ultrasonic paper, I wonder if anyone has tried vapor
deposition of palladium (or nickel, titanium, lithium???) directly onto a
material with piezoelectric properties? Or for that matter, deposition on
to a SAW device, over a very thin passivation layer that in turn lies over
I'm looking at the Godes/Brillouin patent application:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20110122984?hl=en
In figure 3C, the circuit diagram of the drive circuitry, there are
effectively three outputs at right: the two connection points labeled
J1-1 and J1-2, and the bulb-shaped object that is
the Q-pulses to follow this weekend.
Jeff
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:
At 11:54 PM 9/26/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
I'm looking at the Godes/Brillouin patent application:
http://www.google.com/**patents/US20110122984?hl=enhttp
Yes. Sanity is remarkably like cold fusion - it is only observed in
sporadic pulses, and many people deny it exists.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Has everyone her gone totally insane?
http://phys.org/news/2012-09-probing-mysteries-stresses.html
Jeff
Did you measure current or voltage at any time?
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Chuck,
My experiment has ended for today with my power supply blowing out. I
think my last test was not a good test of the nickel vs copper. I was
using what looks
I wish they wouldn't use Angstrom units. Come on.
I think eq. (10) says R ~= 0.4 * 10^-12. But the text says ...that the
electron should be confined within its Compton radius, which is completely
unrealistic.
Various references say the Compton radius of an electron is more like 2.8 *
10^-15.
So
Under QM, the position of an election in an atom is stated as a probability
density function. That is, under QM we can only state that an electron has
a certain probability of being any particular location at any time.
Apparently this very ordinary bit of QM doesn't appear in W-L theory. The
The mention of the 10MW plant is a proof of concept on which some
additional funding is contingent. It does not appear to be a product
proposal.
Jeff
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Slide 17 shows their Power Plant Retrofit Model showing a 5-10 MW
power
This morning I found a link that may be related to the borax and nickels
thing: http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/els/borax-el.htm
I found it, believe it or not, here:
http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-159040.html
I had thought mods generally ban CF/LENR topics there, but I guess not
And, by golly, here's another interesting note: the energy required to
split water molecules by electrolysis is dramatically reduced in the
presence of ... nickel borate.
http://phys.org/news193055742.html
Jeff
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote
Another patent application, also with pulse generator circuitry. Since we
all know cold fusion can't be real, it must be something in the water. ;-)
;-)
Jeff
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
http://e-catsite.com/2011/12/07/ahern-cancels-citi5-appearance/
Yes, I agree. I believe that work originated here:
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/rethinking-the-fall-of-easter-island/1
Feature article, so apparently not paywalled - I'm not a subscriber, but
I can see it.
Jeff
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM, David L Babcock
Here is an unrelated paper from ICCF that includes processing the electrode
material with heat:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Dash-Effect%20of%20Recrystallization-Paper.pdf
Jeff
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for all of
I'm shocked, shocked I say. ;-) Thanks Jed.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
False alarm. It was a piece of plastic that fell off the Rover.
- Jed
A couple of us tried electrolysis with nickels in Borax today. No excess
heat was observed. There are details here:
http://pdxlenr.blogspot.com/2012/10/no-heating-observed-while-electrolyzing.html
Jeff
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
You might try to erode
Mr. Krivit (New Energy Times) has also updated his critical comments about
Mr. Rossi, and the result is not paywalled.
FYI.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Andrea-Rossi-Energy-Catalyzer-Investigation-Index.shtml
Jeff
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
As others have pointed out, the only safe answer is to treat all
electrolysis experiments with respect, doing them with adequate
ventilation, whether that means under a fume hood or outdoors or the like.
Of course we may break these rules and get away with many things, up until
the unfortunate
When I read vortex, Google is constantly trying to sell me a Ford Fusion.
If only ... ;-)
Sure it can. I make such a comparison right here.
http://pdxjjb-econ-politics.blogspot.com/2012/05/parable-of-smart-frugal.html
It's not that your arguments are incorrect, but they are not very strong
arguments, either.
Jeff
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Craig Haynie
It's possible that as the electrolyte evaporates, and there is not
sufficient electrolyte to make a fully-immersed path from anode to cathode
(you'll have to confirm that), there are moments when the liquid withdraws
from point(s) on one of the electrodes - because of the tendency of water
to form
Eventually, Mr. Rossi will have to show something that can be independently
examined and verified completely outside of his control, or the inevitable
media and marketplace counter-reaction will set in because of the very
public nature of the claims. I'm sure even Mr. Rossi himself would agree
to himself as he experiences a short period of brain
death due to his attempt to describe the indescribable.)
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 12:24 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started
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