[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-17 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Joseph Now who uses ems for site sizing and what problems are most important? That's the elastic design I was referring to. A column of, say, 36em is fixed to that measurement. No amount of browser resizing is going to change the width of that column. However, changing the text display size via

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-15 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Joesph: I get you now...those really annoying scrolly boxes that always try to stay at the same place on your screen regardless of how often you scroll! Ignore them - they're Javascript based and, although the concept behind them is a good one (also I think it's a workaround until our favourite

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-15 Thread Joseph Harris
Cheryl, Ah! That makes sense. But,no, I never included the flash ads; on my dial-up nothing much downloaded before I packed them off. So one last question pre seeing if I can take on the learning curve: is there a consensus on what is the most usual size of browser view that people

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-15 Thread Joseph Harris
MOU, Thanks. With Cheryl and you in accord on this I know it's right ;-). Now I have to just blend this with php/mysql and the redesign should be a doddle... Joseph Joesph: I get you now...those really annoying scrolly boxes that always try to stay at the same place on your screen

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-15 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Joseph: is there a consensus on what is the most usual size of browser view that people actually see? Not too sure what you mean by this. If you're referring to common or most used screen resolutions then I have two answers for you: * If you're planning on working to a fixed size design

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen Caudill
Joe wrote: Might a good starting point for my education be a couple of urls where you consider this is well done and a good advertisement for the technique? http://www.csszengarden.com nuff said. - Stephen • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 7:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] CSS boxes etc With Cascade DTP I have just been experimenting with absolute positioning. My impression is that this forces a very rigid

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Their site is excellent for explaining some of the special features found only in IE. How politically correct of you drew :P MOU • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: Ross Clutterbuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc Their site is excellent for explaining some of the special features found only in IE. How politically correct

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread William Stewart
Joseph, Also google for css columns. That will help you get a foundational understanding of how css does layouts. I try to shy away from absolute positioning as much as I can. Check out: http://www.simplebits.com He has some wonderful CSS designs and tutorials (although many are advanced).

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Joseph Harris
drew, MOU and Stephen, I am following through on the urls and will further build my understanding; zengarden and happycog are excellent sites. I don't argue with that at all. Positioniseverything offers great clarity. I have no trouble with the principles of css/box/float, nor the site

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen Caudill
See my replies inline. On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:34:11 -0400, William Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph, Also google for css columns. That will help you get a foundational understanding of how css does layouts. I try to shy away from absolute positioning as much as I can. Oh...

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen Caudill
/me whipes the sweat from his brow. Okay... On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:10:38 +0100, Joseph Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: drew, MOU and Stephen, snip/ Now, whatever size of screen a surfer has his/her viewing experience is affected by the size of browser as she/he uses it. On the fixed

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Cheryl D Wise
To add to Stephen's description of what a float is the closes HTML analogy is align. Basically allows text wrapping. Another site to look at for CSS layouts but this time featuring current live sites is http://cssvault.com/ Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Joseph Harris
Will, I saw this after I had sent out my earlier reply. I have Top Style Lite (from a much earlier recommendation by Cheryl) and I agree it is a great help. And thanks Cheryl for the further link. I clicked back to my own (tables) site to check I was talking (and writing) sense and I find

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Joseph Just a little thing. Don't confuse floats with fluid as they're different things. All the behaviour you seem to be referring to is fluid design, whereby the layout of a page flows with the sizing of the browser. Note however that it's not really common user practice to constantly size

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-14 Thread Stephen Caudill
Just to follow up... I had meant to mention earlier that there are quite a few /benefits/ to fixed width layouts. While you noted they seem inflexible, until we get a bit better CSS support from IE (namely min-width and max-width, which will enable us to blend fluid and fixed width layouts a bit

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-13 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Hi Joseph The question you ask is a mighty discussion all to itself! There are so many things to say, from beginner stuff all the way to super-advanced, I just don't know where to start. Best do some reading first I think. Hunt around http://www.alistapart.com for articles on CSS design (but

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS boxes etc

2004-09-13 Thread Joseph Harris
MOU, Thanks for the prompt and thorough response. It will take me a while to fit in your suggestions, though I note your enthusiasm! Might a good starting point for my education be a couple of urls where you consider this is well done and a good advertisement for the technique? Again many

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS woes

2004-08-13 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Must be something in your code putting the right most column owe the body border. Another approach would he to make the body background color black with padding: 0 10 px; (or whatever width you want the border) then put white in the div backgrounds or a contains div. DIV.menuon only sets the fort

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread mrport
Can you post more code or a link? Riva Riva Portman, MCIWD Certified Webdesigner Star Quality Designs www.starqualitydesigns.com • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread Howard Cheng
text-align: center is really only supposed to apply to text and it works in IE only because IE doesn't interpret it properly. The CORRECT way to do it is: body { text-align: center; } /* for IE */ div#container { margin: 0 auto; text-align: left; } /* for

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread Stephen Caudill
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 11:37:13 -0400, William Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there another solution that I am not thinking about? Yep. The proper method is to align the containing block by using the margin attribute. Like so: #container{ width:600px; margin:0 auto; } The container

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread William Stewart
Thanks Howard and Stephen! As always, you came through. Will Professional Graphics Artist Certified Web Designer (BCIP) Stewart and Company -- www.stewartandcompany.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- W: 304.550.2687 Rt. 1 Box 364 Buffalo, WV 25033 • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM •

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Depends on the version of IE and the doctype. IE 6 in standards mode (full valid doctype of HTML 4.01 Strict or XHTML) will use margin-auto but in any event unless your content is constrained by a container inside div#container it will expand to fill the space so there will be no margins.

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS center

2004-08-06 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Whoops!! That should've been margin-left: -370px; I knew I'd mess it up lol MOU • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL

[wdvltalk] Re: css quandaries

2004-05-24 Thread andrew . trusz
Rita, The good news is that the page validates as transitional xhtml. You have a class: .email{float:right;}. If it floats it needs width, explicit or implicit. Relying on the absolute position of ppsalogo.gif to push the email address over can have unpredictable results -- just what you have.

[wdvltalk] Re: css quandaries

2004-05-22 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
First off, you have an OPEN / CLOSE brace issue in your #contentbox. try fixing that first hAt 5/22/2004 11:41 AM, you wrote: Hi. I'm trying to build a site using xhtml and css and i'm relatively new at this, not to mention that the layout is especially challenging. Here's my situation: if

[wdvltalk] Re: css quandaries

2004-05-22 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
your have here as missing, what font tag? Download TOP STYLE LITE and check your CSS work for error #bigbox { 20px; voice-family: \}\; At 5/22/2004 11:41 AM, you wrote: Hi. I'm trying to build a site using xhtml and css and i'm relatively new at this, not to mention that the layout is

[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Then here is a conundrum for you (in the plural). The css would not work correctly in td, but does so in font. Since I do this only now and again I am probably missing something, and I will learn more. But is there perhaps an imediate reason for this problem? Also. alas, in triumphing I

[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
When you can send a url so we can see what else might be affecting the display. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713.353.0139 Office -Original Message- From: Smile-Poet Then here is a conundrum for you

[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Trusz, Andrew
- From: Smile-Poet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css not acting Then here is a conundrum for you (in the plural). The css would not work correctly in td, but does so in font. Since I do this only now and again I

[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css not acting Then here is a conundrum for you (in the plural). The css would not work correctly in td, but does so in font. Since I do this only now and again I am probably missing something, and I will learn more. But is there perhaps an imediate

[wdvltalk] Re: css not acting

2004-04-23 Thread Smile-Poet
Cheryl, It's a local machine activity, so I can't, unfortunately. Now that I am well on the way to producing a look that I like I am trying to make sure the script (those parts I will use as the basis of the site) work well, and that I understand enough to develop it. Then I will go on the

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Have you looked to see what size the browser uses for its default? When I've been testing sometimes I forget to return the browser to medium and get quite a shock when I was testing something that turned out to have a fixed px/pt size and later open it to a site that uses relative sizing. Suddenly

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Jan
David Prowak wrote: Hi, I've got a site I built that has links on the left hand side that are coded as font-size: x-small in the CSS. http://www.felicegc.com/ I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks smaller, while on another PC it looks to be the default size. What could be causing

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
AT 1164 by 868, it looks fine. Al At 3/23/2004 06:59 PM, you wrote: Hi, I've got a site I built that has links on the left hand side that are coded as font-size: x-small in the CSS. http://www.felicegc.com/ I've had a complaint that from some PCs the text looks smaller, while on another PC it

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
I thought the IE default size was smaller, not medium? Al At 3/23/2004 08:21 PM, you wrote: Have you looked to see what size the browser uses for its default? When I've been testing sometimes I forget to return the browser to medium and get quite a shock when I was testing something that turned

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS text doesn't look consistent

2004-03-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Medium is the default in IE and all other browsers. However the physical size of medium varies from browser to browser with Netscape/Mozilla usually being smaller than IE. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[wdvltalk] Re: css/JavaScript reveal tables

2004-03-09 Thread mrmjct
Thanks Todd have moved it to another place which doesn't add messy javascript url- http://www.mycgiserver.com/~yousaf/developer/testforweb.htm Again, if anyone has any comments or suggestions to make these css/javascript reveal tables better or more accessible then I would be greatful - minimun

[wdvltalk] RE: css/JavaScript reveal tables

2004-03-08 Thread Linden, Todd
Matthew, It looks like the geocities code is broken. It fails here: script language=javascriptgeovisit();/script - Todd -Original Message- From: matthew taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] css/JavaScript

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS? Div vs. ID

2004-02-24 Thread rudy
While one or two class= isn't a big deal if you end up putting a class on every item on the page it gets almost as cluttered as a page using a bunch of font tags and bloats file size back up. that's called classitis ;o) • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk,

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS? Div vs. ID

2004-02-23 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Use IDs to structure your site. Then use contextual selectors to avoid having to put a class in every item in that section you want different from the default. For example you could use: a.nav:link a.nav:visited a.nav:active a.nav: hover And in every link in your navigation section you have to

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS? Div vs. ID

2004-02-23 Thread jmwcruiser
Thanks Cheryl and Andrew- This is obviously a complex issue and it will take me some time to fully absorb all the information provided and to work my way through the linked document! Right now I am just trying to learn how to create a totally CSS page. I have no need (at the moment) to address

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS - Table question

2004-01-31 Thread jac
Had this saved in my snippets but haven't used it yet Filter: Shadow(Color=Hex color of the shadow, Direction=Degree of the shadow) hth jac. Is there a way in CSS where we can have a shadow behind a table? Amrit • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS - Table question

2004-01-30 Thread Amrit Hallan
Is there a way in CSS where we can have a shadow behind a table? Amrit • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Drop-Down - My solution

2004-01-13 Thread Scott Glasgow
Just a quick note--successful has two cs. Cheers, Scott - Original Message - From: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:55 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] CSS Drop-Down - My solution All, Following on from the discussion we

[wdvltalk] RE: css lineup!

2004-01-12 Thread Trusz, Andrew
This is an interesting one. Three things happening: floats, inline and the 3px jog. Put a border around your 2 nav headings and you'll see the problem. Floats sit on top of the normal flow of the document with content sliding out from underneath the float. This is what happens in your second text

[wdvltalk] RE: css lineup!

2004-01-12 Thread Trusz, Andrew
:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: css lineup! This is an interesting one. Three things happening: floats, inline and the 3px jog. snip drew --Ignore this: First thing to remember is that floats are out of the flow of the document but acknowledged by the document. This means

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-03 Thread Scott Glasgow
::snip:: Funny - no NS7 users ever emailed to say how crap the site looked. I guess anyone who uses NS7 is used to seeing weird looking sites by now ::snip:: They were probably both on holiday. ;-) Cheers, Scott • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
Im not up on NN 7 myself,but older Netscape needed the css file reffered to absolutely, not relatively, try that. Also, do dthe body background gif in the CSS file, not the body tag Let me now if it works. Al At 1/1/2004 01:10 PM, you wrote: I have a Web site at www.realhhg.com which looks

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread rudy
I have a Web site at www.realhhg.com which looks OK in IE, but in NS7 the pages ignore the CSS perhaps it could be that the first line of the style sheet is not valid css -- ?php header(Content-type: text/css); ? rudy p.s. in ie6, which (perhaps incorrectly, but let's not go there)

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread rudy
perhaps it could be that the first line of the style sheet is not valid css -- ?php header(Content-type: text/css); ? further to the above, a linked style sheet should not have these tags either -- style type=text/css !-- -- /style rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Bj
I've tried a few things now: Changed the link (as you suggested) to /realhhg.css and even www.realhhg.com/realhhg.css Added an .htaccess file to say .css files are text/css Tried renaming stylesheet from .css to .php and adding a header() to set mime type to text/css Tried using a single body tag

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Bj
- Original Message - From: rudy perhaps it could be that the first line of the style sheet is not valid css -- ?php header(Content-type: text/css); ? That was a failed attempt - gone now... further to the above, a linked style sheet should not have these tags either -- Hmm

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\)
This might be a clue. When I use the back button the background shows up in Netscape 7.1 AuntySpam, SLP Coordinator, pspug.org http://www.pspug.org/edu/edu.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/assign.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/slpparticipants.htm Bj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have a

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Bj
- Original Message - From: rudy further to the above, a linked style sheet should not have these tags either -- style type=text/css !-- -- /style Darn those caches. Yes Rudy - taking those out (even though they never bothered IE) lets NS7 do the right thing. Funny - no NS7

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\)
Also, When I use this http://www.realhhg.com/index.php instead of this http://www.realhhg.com/ the background shows up. AuntySpam, SLP Coordinator, pspug.org http://www.pspug.org/edu/edu.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/assign.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/slpparticipants.htm Bj

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread rudy
(just think I could be the first person helped by Rudy in 2004! ...but surely far from the last...) thanks for the kind words, Bj yes, you are the first -- on this list, anyway my kids have taken over the tv today, so i cannot watch the bowl games, so i've been fairly active on several other

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
In your link to the stylesheet you can put in the text/css in the link. link href=wiserways-a.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / You need to make the background image url absolute because it isn't showing up in NN 4.8 either. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS and Netscape 7?

2004-01-01 Thread Joseph, Smile Poet
Bj, I gather you have sorted it now, but if it helps it looks as you describe it should in my netscape 7.1. Joseph I have a Web site at www.realhhg.com which looks OK in IE, but in NS7 the pages ignore the CSS and display a white background (which is a problem since some of the text is

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Questions

2003-12-23 Thread Pace Computing Limited
Thank you Jure, Sorry it took so long to get back to you...the holidays have me running around in circles! I appreciate the time you spent looking over my work. The reason I asked about the comment in the code about HTML emails is because this is a previous template that I just recoded. The

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS files cached

2003-12-09 Thread andrew . trusz
Displays as a black bordered box with vsd centered, which is what the css says it should be. For consistency you should put 'centriraj' in double quotes centriraj. Flush the cache. drew • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS float question

2003-11-25 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Rita, you haven't defined a class for honorbox. If I insert a simple .honorbox{float:right; width:50%;} it works fine. Validates nicely for css and html. drew -Original Message- From: Rita Crisafi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS float question, MORE

2003-11-25 Thread Rita Crisafi
Rita, you haven't defined a class for honorbox. If I insert a simple .honorbox{float:right; width:50%;} it works fine. Validates nicely for css and html. drew Drew, I wish it were that simple, but it /is/ in the stylesheet, here it is excerpted: #peachbody P { color:#133a6a; }

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-25 Thread Trusz, Andrew
, it does seem to validate and work. Or do as Cheryl suggested and let the browser find the height. drew -Original Message- From: Jan Major Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css problem Drew No, I didn't know that we have to now put units

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS float question, MORE

2003-11-25 Thread Stephen Caudill
--- Rita Crisafi wrote: --- : Drew, I wish it were that simple, but it /is/ in the stylesheet, : here it is excerpted: snip/ : .honorbox : { : width=50%; : font-size:11px; : line-height:14px; : font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread andrew . trusz
Jan, sorry to have been so cryptic. If you've worked things out skip this. By sizes I meant your images need units of measure as well. So it should be height=200px. You've probably seen that in your validation attempt. The p tag is probably not the actual error. That kind of error message

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread Brewnetty \(AuntySpam\)
/edu.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/assign.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/slpparticipants.htm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css problem Jan, sorry to have been so cryptic

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread Trusz, Andrew
I believe it is of the container in the same way that a pixel set of dimensions fits the picture in. -Original Message- From: Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css problem That brings up

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-24 Thread Jan Major
Matt, Thought I would let you know that IE doesn't display drop-down (or side out) menus using css. If you notice: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html this demo does work in IE, but it doesn't have drop-down or even side out. Opera should show it though, just like Mozilla

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread Jan Major
Yes, I use percentages 100% for the width (the logo is in a table) but it doesn't work well for the height. I just recently changed my home page so that when the screen is taken from 800x600 to 1024x768, the width expands the logo and the bottom part (similar to logo) perfectly. But looked

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread Jan Major
Drew No, I didn't know that we have to now put units of measure for images. My page validated without them, but I will definitely add the px to all image code. Do you know where I can find out that images require units of measures now. I know I can search through W3C, but am hoping that you

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread michael ensor
- Original Message - From: Jan Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css problem : Drew : No, I didn't know that we have to now put units of measure for images. : My page validated without them, but I

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-24 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
I don't think images are required to have a height and width but it is best practice to do so. Have you had to wait for a page then suddenly have it pop or had the page shift around when the images finished loading? That's because the browser either refused to guess the size of the images until

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-23 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Matt, http://www.interactwiththe.net/css/ No joy in Opera or IE 6 on Windows - you just get the first-level menus and nothing happens when you hover over them. Works a treat in Firebird though :-) Cheers Jon The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-23 Thread Joseph Harris
Matt, Complete blank on IE5. Joseph I've tried altering Eric Meyer's code, and come up with the page available at http://www.interactwiththe.net/css/ which works in Firebird 0.6, but I don't know about the others, any chance someone could try it out for me? The links don't work (just as

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-23 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Sun, 2003-11-23 at 15:17, Joseph Harris wrote: Matt, Complete blank on IE5. Joseph Joseph, Was it a completely blank page, or did it have the list as an outline? I've changed a few things, so if you could check it again for me? Cheers, Matt -- +--+

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-23 Thread Joseph Harris
: www.smilepoetryweekly.com For cricket lovers everywhere: Batty Balls and other Wicket Wit www.ah-mah-son.com - Original Message - From: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice) On Sun

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Menus (was Re: menu advice)

2003-11-23 Thread Scott Glasgow
Works fine in IE 6.0.2800.1106 on my machine (Win98SE). Hover turns selection background grey, if that was your intention. Cheers, Scott - Original Message - From: Jon Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: CSS

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem - ( concerning browsers)

2003-11-22 Thread Elisa Butler
Cheryl Great post. I hope you don't mind me asking you these questions : which Mozilla do you use and why did you recently remove NS 6.2 and do you intend on installing NS 7.1 (or NS 7.2 if you can find it)? I'm asking because I would like to somewhat update my browsers for testing purposes

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem - ( concerning browsers)

2003-11-22 Thread Jan Major
Elisa Butler wrote: snip I have NS 4.77, IE 5, Opera 5 6 and Mozilla 0.9.5. I do want to upgrade to Mozilla 1.5 but given that one must purchase it and I do want it on a CD-Rom, it's not going to happen until I go home (they don't seem to want to ship it to France). I gapped out buying it last

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem - ( concerning browsers)

2003-11-22 Thread michael ensor
- From: Elisa Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: css problem - ( concerning browsers) : Cheryl : : Great post. : : I hope you don't mind me asking you these questions : which Mozilla do : you use and why did you

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread Joseph Harris
Jan, I'm even less help. I can read the blue of white at the bottom, but they do look out of place when everything else has a coloured background. If you still have the problem, what shuld we be looking at/for? Joseph Chacha Joe For a site of laughs and a FREE ezine:

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread andrew . trusz
Several points. Neither your xhtml nor css validate. The xhtml issues have to do with tables in css. Tables do not behave exactly the same way when css designed. The validator indicates you have an element a p tag where one is not allowed. Also you failed to specify units for sizes. This is a

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread Jan Major
Joseph For some reason, my pages in IE 6.0 are weird. The index page looks fine, but all other pages are messed up. I'm going to see if I can fix it, but I sure don't know why it's acting up. Jan Joseph Harris wrote: Jan, I'm even less help. I can read the blue of white at the bottom, but

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread Jan Major
Drew This is a mess. I validated both my xhtml and css. Even though div align=center is not accepted in the strict doctype, it is tolerated in transitional, and since I'm not tableless in my design yet, I am still using it [bad me :o( ] I'll validate them again and fix any problems. I already

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread Jan Major
Hi Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several points. Neither your xhtml nor css validate. The xhtml issues have to do with tables in css. Tables do not behave exactly the same way when css designed. The validator indicates you have an element a p tag where one is not allowed. I see what the problem

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-21 Thread Cheryl D. Wise
Jan, While I applaud using percents so people can adjust sizes but 73% on my laptop in its default configuration isn't readable. Nor will it be readable on a Mac which renders text smaller than with IE on the PC. While many designers love small font sizes from my informal survey (students where I

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-20 Thread puterbug
At 09:59 PM 11/20/2003, you wrote: For some reason, my page is looking lousy in IE 6.0 and I can't figure out why it's not reading the style sheet default.css. Can someone please check out this page using IE only and tell me if there is a problem on your browser too.

[wdvltalk] Re: css problem

2003-11-20 Thread Jan Major
Deb The page shows properly in NS. The valid buttons are not supposed to be visible unless the mouse is over the name, so that part is right. I believe that IE 6.0 is not interpreting the style sheet default.css can anyone tell me why it isn't? puterbug wrote: At 09:59 PM 11/20/2003, you wrote:

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Problem

2003-09-04 Thread Kim Brooks Wei
I just answered a question about links on another list. You seem to be making some of the same mistakes the other fellow I responded to did. Just below I'm appending my answer to him. If you want to see some complex links working correctly, take a look at this site I'm developing [ignore red

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Problem

2003-09-04 Thread Galatek Webmaster
: [wdvltalk] Re: CSS Problem Galatek Webmaster wrote: Ok guys, ive got an annoying issue. CSS based I guess. Im putting my site http://www.galatekinc.com/ to a major revision, and while testing it I noticed that a small menu I have on the left hand side has a problem. When the cursor goes over

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Problem

2003-09-03 Thread michael ensor
try display: block; for nav menus, just off the top of my head. www.WellingtonLive.co.nz - Original Message - From: Galatek Webmaster Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] CSS Problem : Ok guys, ive got an annoying issue. CSS based I guess. Im putting my

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS Problem

2003-09-03 Thread Michael Gordon
Galatek Webmaster wrote: Ok guys, ive got an annoying issue. CSS based I guess. Im putting my site http://www.galatekinc.com/ to a major revision, and while testing it I noticed that a small menu I have on the left hand side has a problem. When the cursor goes over the Generator Gawl link, it

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS

2003-07-30 Thread Jan
Anitha Here are some urls re css http://w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/ http://bluerobot.com/ http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/ http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/ http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/ http://www.westciv.com.au/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS

2003-07-30 Thread Mark Groen
On July 30, 2003 at 13:38, Anitha Paruchuri wrote: Can anyone suggest me some good example websites which have used CSS for formatting. Or any sites which talk about this giving examples? I am looking for examples of CSS which include graphic positioning. Heavy use of graphics/css on this

[wdvltalk] Re: CSS

2003-07-30 Thread Don Kinney
Anitha-- www.alistapart.com and about a dozen other sites I don't have at hand. Working on my laptop through dialup and haven't updated my Favorites on this computer. I miss my DSL and cordless keyboard/mouse! I feel so slow. ;^) -- Don - Original Message - From: Anitha

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS

2003-07-28 Thread Stephen Caudill
snip / :My point was that :tables have unique css properties not found in other elements. :Making it worthwhile to spend time studying the extended :properties of tables rather than just styling td and tr. Ah, well, in that case, I have to agree. As well as using more semantically correct

[wdvltalk] RE: CSS

2003-07-24 Thread Trusz, Andrew
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: CSS Ok, somehow this is confusing me. What is best to use for tables, columns or box model? Jan http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send

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