the wiki is a great resource, but now that the old tools are dead on
Leopard, we need to update the wiki. I made a list of changes that I
think should be made :
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/x/SwEg
If any of you can help out in updating the wiki, the community will
be more than
Le 07-10-29 à 05:20, Cheong Hee (Datasonic) a écrit :
...
Went to the site,and found out log in is required. Do we need to
register the account and obtain a password to and the entry?
http://issues.objectstyle.org/jira/secure/Signup!default.jspa
You have more control if you create the displayGroup in your code (for
example in the component constructor, or in initialization for your
component).
First create a EODatabaseDataSource, then the displayGroup.
You can then use setFetchSpecification(EOFetchSpecification fetchSpec)
or
On 29 Oct 2007, at 10:04, Jean Pierre Malrieu wrote:
You have more control if you create the displayGroup in your code
(for example in the component constructor, or in initialization for
your component).
First create a EODatabaseDataSource, then the displayGroup.
You can then use
Personally I find creating a simple groovy expression in your wod
binding cleaner looking than WOOgnl.
e.g.,
SomeDiv : WOGenericContainer {
omitTags = hasFoo hasBar;
}
I wasn't very clear -- I'm with you on this (though honestly this is
actually identical to OGNL except
On 10/28/07, Art Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 29/10/2007, at 6:23 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
There are lots of other ways to address many of the steps I list
here, and Apple now recommends that you use the jar versions of
their frameworks instead of the .framework versions which I
If I am reading correctly are you saying that with Eclipse and WOLips
you have to manually write your HTML - now code generation as from
WOBuilder??
Another question: If Apple depreciated WOBuilder and EOModeler will
these tools be opensourced or just sent to the boneyard???
Using Leopard Eclipse WOLips - which is the database of choice. I
have heard postgres is the best of the opensource ones. But which one
works best with replacement tool for EOModeler?
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Not having WOBuilder is a big problem. Anyone working on a
replacement? Also, is it still possible to use XCode 3.0 with
WebObjects?
Michael
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On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
If I am reading correctly are you saying that with Eclipse and
WOLips you have to
Le 07-10-29 à 10:37, Ken Foust a écrit :
If I am reading correctly are you saying that with Eclipse and
WOLips you have to manually write your HTML - now code generation
as from WOBuilder??
It depends of what is now code generation as from WOBuilder is to
you. If you mean the table
Actually, to be able to compile, you have to write:
public WORequest createRequest(String aMethod, String aURL, String
anHTTPVersion, NSDictionary someHeaders, NSData aContent,
NSDictionary someInfo) {
return _createRequest(aMethod, aURL, anHTTPVersion, new NSDictionary
(someHeaders,
Hi!
I don't understand your question. WOLips has nothing to do with
the DB. As long as you have the correct plugin installed, WOLips will
be able to handle SQL generation for any DB.
You have a lot of criteria to base your decision, but in what
relates to WO and WOLips, it's just a
We often use tags to pass values into a piece of JavaScript. Will the tags
be parsed? For example
!-- webobject name=validateEmail/webobject = function(){
var valid = false;
var email =
document.getElementById('webobject name=emailId/webobject').value;
var msg = Invalid email
Check out /Library/WebObjects/lib.
Nice. Includes the components and WebServerResources all together in
a single jar.
WOLips doesn't provide anything special for them. Notably, Entity
Modeler is not currently capable of finding models that are inside of
jar files, so if you have
Hi,
I'm having a very strange behaviour while trying to work w/ an WO-
Project. I checked out the project from an svn server but got the
following error message within a java class file:
The type NSArray is not generic; it cannot be parameterized with
arguments T
The strange thing is that
Another question: If Apple depreciated WOBuilder and EOModeler will
these tools be opensourced or just sent to the boneyard???
boneyard.
ms
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On 29.10.2007, at 10:57, Edgar Ra. Klein wrote:
I would be very grateful for any hints, tips, or suggestions...
Classpath issue. The Wonder extensions have to be loaded before the
WebObjects frameworks so you get the Wonder NS* collection classes in
the app and not the WebObjects ones.
2007/10/29, Jeffrey Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We often use tags to pass values into a piece of JavaScript. Will
the tags
be parsed?
Sure!
The only case, where some problems occur (but probably it works) is
var myStr = My Name is webobject name=MyName /;
in this case you should use
2007/10/29, Jeffrey Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We often use tags to pass values into a piece of JavaScript. Will the
tags
be parsed?
Sure!
The only case, where some problems occur (but probably it works) is
var myStr = My Name is webobject name=MyName /;
in this case you should use
Not having WOBuilder is a big problem. Anyone working on a
replacement? Also, is it still possible to use XCode 3.0 with
WebObjects?
I have heard tales in the wind of various people working on a
replacement, but if your plan is to sit it out until then, I think
you're not going to get any
I prefer FrontBase ... It's trivial to setup, runs very well, and it's
free. MySQL and PostgreSQL are obvious other choices as well.
ms
On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
Using Leopard Eclipse WOLips - which is the database of choice.
I have heard postgres is the best of
I'll stick up for MySQL!
You can be up and running in minutes, it has a simple admin app and
you can still get under the hood and tinker to the n'th degree if you
really want to.
Simon
On 29 Oct 2007, at 17:16, Chuck Hill wrote:
I am with Mike on this. If you just need free, FrontBase
I am with Mike on this. If you just need free, FrontBase is hard to
beat. If you must have open source, PostgreSQL. MySQL has some nice
features, but... I dunno, it is still MySQLToy to me.
Chuck
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
I prefer FrontBase ... It's trivial to
Hi all - I've been trawling the many 5.4 threads, but can't see an
answer to this one. Sorry if it is a dupe..
Can 5.3 apps be run on Leopard server / 5.4 deployment ?
Thanks, Simon
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You know, I have thought this same thing of MySQL for years, but I
think it's because I'm evaluating it based on its feature set from
1998 and not giving it a fair shake. I've read a lot of stories on,
for instance, highavailability.com about huge sites that use it. I'm
not too keen on
Finally, I have zero criticsm for FrontBase or PostqreSQL just
have never had a need to go there yet although, I am planning
to give serious playtime to both someday soon when I get time
especially after all the positive comments about Frontbase and
PostgreSQL here in the
I'm not too keen on the restriction that clustering is in-memory only
I agree with this. You also need a minimum 3 servers to have a true
cluster so it becomes incredibly expensive because you need mountains
of RAM in each server.
But if you are just looking for data security/back-up etc
Depends. You have to test ... Depending on what API's you use
yes, or you may happen to use one of the changed or deprecated API's
in which case the answer is no. If you're using Project Wonder,
until the official 5.4 release is out, the answer is probably no.
Anjo just committed some
Same here. Until recently I didn't care about MySQL at all, but after
a year of running a clustered installation on a *very* active site
that previously ran on Oracle, I'd say it is a very good choice...
Although the site is heavily skewed towards reads. Not sure how well
MySQL behaves
I am sure that you can make it go, but other than clustering, why
bother? If you don't need that it seems like a lot of configuration
work, research, etc. for what FrontBase gives you with a single
click installer.
Chuck
On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
You know, I have
Tcsh, tcsh MySQLToy! I must be a kid then :-p
Seriously ... it is garbage using *DEFAULT* MyISAM with WebObjects,
but with *InnoDB transactional engine*, I find it quite troublefree.
Requires one to look up the manual and decide what innodb settings
they need to set in /my.cnf,
Le 07-10-29 à 14:06, Mike Schrag a écrit :
Finally, I have zero criticsm for FrontBase or PostqreSQL
just have never had a need to go there yet although, I am
planning to give serious playtime to both someday soon when I get
time especially after all the positive comments
I suspect they very likely have compelling performance numbers, but I
haven't had time to actually run tests with our real databases on
it ... There are graphical MySQL front-ends (whereas FB's is fine, but
sort of passable), and honestly there are pkg installs of it also at
this point, so
On 29 Oct 2007, at 16:52, Mike Schrag wrote:
I prefer FrontBase ... It's trivial to setup, runs very well, and
it's free. MySQL and PostgreSQL are obvious other choices as well.
OpenBase is another obvious choice. One that seems to be somewhat
ignored on this list, for no obvious
On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Actually, to be able to compile, you have to write:
public WORequest createRequest(String aMethod, String aURL, String
anHTTPVersion, Map someHeaders, NSData aContent, NSDictionary
someInfo) {
return _createRequest(aMethod, aURL,
The reason I don't recommend OpenBase is that there are several very
capable free alternatives, but everyone who uses it seems to be very
happy with it. I've heard the GUI tools on OpenBase are a lot better
than FB's.
ms
On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 29 Oct 2007,
It does appear that MySQL has come along way. We're actually looking
at migrating to MySQL from our current OpenBase install for
performance issues. Don't really hear much about OpenBase and WO
these days ... does anyone still use it in production environments?
Michael.
On 29-Oct-07, at
balancing with replication by distributing SELECT statements
between slaves, but limiting UPDATE statements to the master.
Simon
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WRT MySQL, configuring the /etc/my.cnf file for good InnoDB
performance is trivial enough. The my.cnf is simply a way of putting
all command line launch options in a file actually the format is
identical to our beloved WebObjects Properties file. The options are
very well documented in
Three's a charm. Yes, you're right (almost, you have to say
(someInfo == null ? null: new NSDictionary(someInfo, false))).
Cheers, Anjo
Am 29.10.2007 um 19:56 schrieb Art Isbell:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:30 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Actually, to be able to compile, you have to write:
public
We use Openbase in several of our systems. We are very satisfied with
it, great support.
Cheers,
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On 29/10/2007, at 16:07, Michael Halliday
On Oct 29, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 29 Oct 2007, at 16:52, Mike Schrag wrote:
I prefer FrontBase ... It's trivial to setup, runs very well, and
it's free. MySQL and PostgreSQL are obvious other choices as well.
OpenBase is another obvious choice. One that seems to be
Hello;
Are there not problems still with deferred referential-integrity
checking in the MySQL database? I also seem to end up with
OutOfMemory's in long batch-processing runs that completely vanished
when I switched a system to Postgres.
cheers.
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On Oct 29, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
I suspect they very likely have compelling performance numbers, but
I haven't had time to actually run tests with our real databases on
it ...
The best database for a particular application really seems to depend
on the size of the
It looks like Frontbase is something interesting to look at:)
Actually I'm setting up a new server for test purpose so I'll be
happy to try something else than MySQL.
What are the tools available like CocoaMySQL but for Frontbase? GUI
front end I mean:) Frontbase manager?
Is there any
I've been using OpenBase since I began doing WO development. That's
not long but I can say that I have been happy with it. If you're in a
position where a commercial product is an option then I think they
provide some unique and forward-thnking features. It installs with
some cool stored
FrontBaseManager is the GUI tool for FrontBase ... It works fine for
most operations, but it's not great. There's also the Java version of
it (which I don't use FrontBaseJManager, I think is the name). I
don't know if they're explicitly certified on Leopard, but I have not
had any
MySQL is a lot better than it was 10 years ago, but it still has a
habit of playing fast and loose with certain types of input
validation, silently discarding or changing certain types of data and
allowing invalid queries. It still has a brain damaged query
optimiser and the query
On 10/28/07, Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are lots of other ways to address many of the steps I list here, and
Apple now recommends that you use the jar versions of their frameworks
instead of the .framework versions which I use, but I didn't want to rock
the boat just yet --
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Q wrote:
MySQL is a lot better than it was 10 years ago, but it still has a
habit of playing fast and loose with certain types of input
validation, silently discarding or changing certain types of data
and allowing invalid queries. It still has a brain
Hi!
On 2007/10/29, at 22:48, Joe Little wrote:
Loved these instructions. I may just go ahead and move one of our
servers to 10.5 along with this (already worked great on my laptop)
just so I can keep WO 5.3 _and_ get the benefits of TimeMachine for
backing up my databases.
Be careful with
Especially check out the discussions about the bugs with Aperture and
its corruption when it writes during Time Machine backups -- It may
apply. I would definitely lean towards using a proper db dump for
backups instead.
ms
On Oct 29, 2007, at 7:21 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Hi!
On
Hi there,
On 29/10/2007, at 10:28 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Personally I find creating a simple groovy expression in your wod
binding cleaner looking than WOOgnl.
e.g.,
SomeDiv : WOGenericContainer {
omitTags = hasFoo hasBar;
}
I wasn't very clear -- I'm with you on this
Hello Anjo;
I suppose if one wanted to fiddle with the headers and then call
super this is not going to work is it?
cheers.
Actually, to be able to compile, you have to write:
public WORequest createRequest(String aMethod, String aURL, String
anHTTPVersion, NSDictionary someHeaders,
To this Great Community:
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal. However
for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There doesn't see
to be a solution out there that was so complete. You could just buy
Joshua Marker's book, build something and even make it
Ken,
When did WO die?
Alan
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Q wrote:
The rumors of WO's death have been greatly exaggerated.
There may be a changing of the guard when it comes to the
development tools, but WO is most certainly still with us.
On 30/10/2007, at 10:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
Oh. a cron-based DB dump for sure, but then those dumps are versioned
by time machine to at least another volume.
On 10/29/07, Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Especially check out the discussions about the bugs with Aperture and
its corruption when it writes during Time Machine backups --
The rumors of WO's death have been greatly exaggerated.
There may be a changing of the guard when it comes to the development
tools, but WO is most certainly still with us.
On 30/10/2007, at 10:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
To this Great Community:
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is
Ah I'm w/ you now ... ok.
ms
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Joe Little wrote:
Oh. a cron-based DB dump for sure, but then those dumps are versioned
by time machine to at least another volume.
On 10/29/07, Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Especially check out the discussions about the
On 29.10.2007, at 19:01, Alan Ward wrote:
When did WO die?
Years ago. Only nobody noticed ...
cug, zombieing around ...
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For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal.
If WO is dead, then my wife really deserves an explanation of what
I've been up to all these months.
ms
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+ has vacuum full, to shrink the footprint of the db on disk
in FB, you might want to take a look at:
OPTIMIZE DATABASE;
OPTIMIZE DISK ZONE disk zone name | DEFAULT;
(see Page 115 of the FB User Guide for more info) ... Maybe will help?
+ query planner analysis tools (explain analyze select
On 29.10.2007, at 17:01, Q wrote:
Until postgresql gets a solid clustering solution, frontbase comes
out in front in my opinion.
Depends a bit on your workload and your requirements.
Where PostgreSQL shines:
+ insert speed
+ indexing speed (helps inserting)
+ has vacuum full, to shrink the
Hi there,
On 30/10/2007, at 11:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
To this Great Community:
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal.
Passing? 5.4 just came out.
However for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There
doesn't see to be a solution out there that was so
Well, it is what it is. Can't be helped now. But there's still a lot
of help available... I'd say even more than before. If you need a
visual editor, then there are numerous gui html editors out there
that could serve you well. Granted, they'll not be an integrated
solution.
Not only that,
my thoughts exactly I've got 8 years of 'splainin' to do :-)
Alan
On Oct 29, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal.
If WO is dead, then my wife really deserves an explanation of what
I've been up to all these months.
ms
Just to follow this up.
I have been able to replicate the same behaviour under windows (xp).
Everything works fine, install firefox, boom eclipse dies if you open
a component. Uninstall firefox, reboot, and everything works again.
Windows doesn't seem to generate a crash log that I can
On 30/10/2007, at 12:27 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Hi there,
On 30/10/2007, at 11:34 AM, Ken Foust wrote:
To this Great Community:
For seasoned developers the passing of WO is not a big deal.
Passing? 5.4 just came out.
However for novice and part timers it is like a tragedy. There
I am not a heavy user of database, so my 2 cents here could possibly useful
to those light-weight users of DB in FrontBase and MySQL. Typically, only
my 5% or less time is spent on DB once it is set up. These are not about
the detailed features e.g. performance etc but more from a user's
On 30/10/2007, at 1:07 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
Not only that, but pro-WOBs / anti-WOLs keep talking like the
current state is the forever state. Anyone who follows WOLips
knows that story is far from over ... Just a week or two ago we had
the WOB-ish Display Group editor submitted, which
Hi All,
Im currently developing an app against a Oracle databas, which uses
sequence for generating its Primary Keys.
Is there a way to get WO to request a batch of sequences instead of
doing it one at a time ( which is what it appears to be doing when
you output the SQL ). For example I
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
The reason I don't recommend OpenBase is that there are several very
capable free alternatives, but everyone who uses it seems to be very
happy with it. I've heard the GUI tools on OpenBase are a lot better
than FB's.
The following is from the
Short answer: yes.
Mike recently added something to the FrontBase plugin(?) in Wonder to
do this. I imagine that the same thing could be done for Oracle.
There are primary key generators in GVCEOFExtensions that also do
this (get a batch from the DB and allocate them locally).
The
On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Paul Lynch wrote:
I prefer FrontBase ... It's trivial to setup, runs very well, and
it's free. MySQL and PostgreSQL are obvious other choices as well.
OpenBase is another obvious choice. One that seems to be somewhat
ignored on this list, for no obvious reason.
I have been using FB since it was in beta, and never ever had a
single problem. It is my dev base of choice.
It is very fast, scales very well; and I like the slick UI and the
sql92 compliance. For those whom might have the need, the FB support
is the most responsive I've ever seen.
On 10/29/07, Guido Neitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 29.10.2007, at 12:38, Pascal Robert wrote:
And for MySQL: as long as they don't change their policy and not do
API changes or major changes to the behaviour of the system inside a
minor version tree (so you can't get updates inside the
Mike,
As one of the original EOGenerator developers, I was wondering if you could
provide me with any more details about the EOGenerator replacement. For
instance, I presume that the template language is not compatible with ours,
but does offer the same features? I'm composing a official
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Ricardo Parada wrote:
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
The reason I don't recommend OpenBase is that there are several very
capable free alternatives, but everyone who uses it seems to be very
happy with it. I've heard the GUI tools on OpenBase
On Oct 29, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Michael Halliday wrote:
It does appear that MySQL has come along way. We're actually looking
at migrating to MySQL from our current OpenBase install for
performance issues. Don't really hear much about OpenBase and WO
these days ... does anyone still use it in
On 30/10/2007, at 5:38 PM, Thomas wrote:
Mike, thanks for your continued valuable input to the WebObjects
community.
I'm now trying to get my development machine working again after
upgrading to Leopard. I've done everything in your What-I-Did
epistle (except for JavaMonitor), and I'm
Mike, thanks for your continued valuable input to the WebObjects
community.
I'm now trying to get my development machine working again after
upgrading to Leopard. I've done everything in your What-I-Did
epistle (except for JavaMonitor), and I'm nearly there.
- Apache is running, serving
Many thanks. It's been very useful.
On 30/10/2007, at 4:44 PM, Doug McClure wrote:
We have greatly enjoyed serving the community with these tools for
the past
7 years and are quite impressed with how many of you have made
EOGenerator
part of your projects. We are looking forward to what
Hi all. I apologize for sending this to so many groups, but I wanted as
many to get this information as possible.
On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
Is a Leopard version coming?
Thanks, Kieran
A very good question and one we've been thinking about a lot recently, so
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