this is often not the case. RDF is an intentionally simple mode. This makes it
easy to mix and match data from different sources using different standards, but
it also makes it hard to represent certain types of data efficiently or
conveniently.
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data tables (albeit in MySQL) for many things
it needs quick access too, e.g. the categories assigned to wiki pages.
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Hello!
What about the engine of Wikidata?
Do you think MediaWiki is good for structured data?
I think MediaWiki
of discussions about the project.
We could go to mediawiki.org, LQT is enabled there.
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This is an interesting criticism, and there's an excellent retort by Denny in
the comments. Just fyi.
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, the names of
the git repositories of the Wikibase and WikibaseClient extensions. Apparently
it is not possible to rename git repositories on Wikimedia's infrastructure, so
we are stuck with them for now.
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Cheers,
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way to create infoboxes etc from
Wikidata items is very important for the acceptance of Wikidata on the clinet
wikis, I believe.
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be detected, is a much more tricky problem... but a
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parameter syntax with
pseudo-parameters, e.g. {{{data.color}}} for retrieving the flat wikitext value
of the property.
Do you think that's ok? Or does it introduce complications with respect to Lua,
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for edit links. Especially not if the edit link is
supposed to invoke the on-site ajax editing interface How to you generate a
link/button for doing that?
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of dynamic features, because we have to make sure that the basic
information is always available without the use of javascript.
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der
and the local transclusion interface (parser
functions).
A new transclusion draft is due some time next week, and we may also have a
first draft for the API by then. Keep an eye on the list!
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Works in Wikipedia either.
Anything that constitutes even a sentence can not be copied to Wikidata, or
needs an extra license statement attached. Lucky, our data structure is flexible
enough that we could even do that, though i'd like to avoid it.
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2. Phase 1 (which we are currently finishing) is
only about interwikis. Phase 2 will cover almost everything you can find in
infoboxes today, including population data.
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http
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.#
The idea behind the format we are proposing is to use self-contained entries
(records) for everything, and support named keys for convenience where possible.
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.
This is a regression, i have reopened
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38263. See also
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40077.
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to enforce any
constraint based on a class system or similar, a true ontology in the RDFS/OWL
sense is unlikely to appear. We hope however that the relations and properties
we collect about items will be useful in building such an ontology in other
systems.
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
is marked as preferred. This is already necessary for basic
things like population numbers. However, I don't think we need to expire data
automatically - it should just be superseded by newer information.
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On 05.10.2012 20:33, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Would it be possible to show
the number there, to let everybody know the precise version?
I think https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/17333/ would do that... it's pending
review.
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: geo
latitude : 32.233,
longitude : -2.233,
},
}
Using magic keys (prefixed with _ or whatever) is kind of nasty, but saves
quite a bit of structural complexity.
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they are not the same but it's better to be!
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to inject changes
into the local recentchanges feed (and thus watchlist, relatedchanges, etc) was
made at the Hackathon in Berlin in June. I *thought* we had that written down
somewhere...
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as such are not
copyrightable. But if there was a bot transferring stuff from infoboxes, it
should at least check for any actual text (e.g. long values with spaces), and
not transfer it, because of license reasons.
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know.
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that the English article can only have one outgoing interlanguage link
to german, the others are ignored (this was changed in core a few weeks ago,
unrelated to wikidata).
One solution would be to create a hub page for the law in general on the
German wikipedia too.
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. I can't
think of an example where that wouldn't feel natural.
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, geographical longitude/latitude, etc.
Indeed.
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and sorted by the database (at the very least by
MySQL, but ideally, by many different database systems).
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, interface
language, and heuristics for picking a decent unit based on dimension and
accuracy. The internal representation should use the same unit for all
quantities of a given dimension.
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not be converted.
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system defined. You can
still use them, but you cannot compare them to values in another system of
measurement.
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PS: the above reflects my personal ideas on how to best do this, this is not a
finished design and wasn't discussed with the rest of the wikidata team.
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On 19.12.2012 18:13, Gregor Hagedorn wrote:
On 19 December 2012 17:03, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Indeed we do: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary
I use precision exactly like that: significant digits when rendering
output or
parsing intput. It can be used
be in any unit we like.
The rendering of a value will be based on the primary data record, to the
conversion and rendering logic has access to all the additional information it
may want to use.
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be bad though, I
think.
However, we should probably store whether the level of certainty was given
explicitly or estimated automatically based on the number of significant digits
- then we can still ignore automatic values when desired.
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On 20.12.2012 20:31, Friedrich Röhrs wrote:
Hi,
tried to enter the height of the eiffel tower. 324 meters. It suggested 324m
+-100m.
That's strange. When I enter 324m, it correctly suggests 324m+/-1 for me.
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to be 90+/-20cm or something.
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re-using Wikibase code for that extension, especially for storing the data. They
would probably also be happy about a common code base for parsing, normalizing
and rendering coordinates.
We should cut them in on this discussion, I think.
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page (say, the page Moon on en.wikipedia.org). There
either is one, or none.
5. you only get one result or nothing (I expected a list of all Items
with
the given label in the given language)
Again, that's what Special:ItemDIsambiguation does.
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for keeping the bots from adding interlanguage links would
evolve. Can't huwiki simply opt out of the interwiki bot stuff?
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and telling MediaWiki that it's MySQL. From looking at [1],
this should Just Work (tm).
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MariaDB
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your Wikibase install.
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the Wikidata API for integration? Or is it talking directly to
the Wikidata database?
It's talking directly to the database.
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like to see this, but our priority is to get Wikimedia sites feature
complete first.
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But it's not a fact. It's a claim someone makes.
That may seem like a fine distinction, but it's really fundamental to
understanding how Wikidata/Wikibase is different from DBpedia, Freebase, Cyc,
etc.
Wikidata doesn't collect facts. It collects statements (sourced claims).
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hth
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unsure though how well we could control scaling in such a
setup.
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, there is no roadmap for
integrating Wikibase specific Solr search with the MediaWiki search page. It's
on the list, but there are no concrete plans yet.
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On 22.04.2013 21:23, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Heya folks :)
Phase 2 is not live on English Wikipedia. For more details please see
http://blog.wikimedia.de/?p=14896
I suppose it is *now* live on English Wikipedia :)
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non-JS *view* without full editing capabilities would be sufficient for
supporting the mobile version.
Another note: Daniel Werner and Henning Snater are the people most involved with
designing CSS and JS for the Wikibase UI.
Good luck and have fun,
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is perfectly in sync, it might work...
Are you going to try this? Would be great if you could give us feedback!
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Hi Daniel,
Am 26.04.2013 18:01, schrieb Daniel Kinzler:
You guys are the only reason the interface still exists :) DBpedia is the
only
(regular) external user (LuceneSearch is the only internal user). Note that
there's nobody really
On 04.05.2013 12:05, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt wrote:
On 26 April 2013 17:15, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
*internal* JSON representation, which is different from what the API returns,
and may change at any time without notice.
Somewhat off-topic: I didn't know you have
On 04.05.2013 19:13, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt wrote:
We will produce a DBpedia release pretty soon, I don't think we can
wait for the real dumps. The inter-language links are an important
part of DBpedia, so we have to extract data from almost all Wikidata
items. I don't think it's sensible
Am 19.06.2013 15:57, schrieb Denny Vrandečić:
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary
To the best of our knowledge, we have checked all discussions on this topic,
and
also related work like OmegaWiki, Wordnet, etc., and are building on top of
that.
I would like to point out that
Am 21.06.2013 14:44, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi,
Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is in
essence more than a basis for a translation dictionary.
I would say it's excellent as a thesaurus which can be used for cross-lingual
tagging, named entity
Am 25.06.2013 14:58, schrieb Nikola Smolenski:
Do you think it would it be possible to have this data on the actual image
page,
where current page text would be just one of the items?
In theory yes, but I think that would create more problems than it would solve.
For one, wikitext as data
Am 25.06.2013 15:37, schrieb David Cuenca:
From the proposal it is not very clear to me what is the relationship between
the data stored in Commons and the data stored in Wikidata is going to look
like.
I assume that Work (item) will be linked to existing work items in
Wikidata,
is that
Am 27.06.2013 16:08, schrieb Hady elsahar:
Hello all,
inside : http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q1.nt
page i found the triple
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q1000
http://schema.org/about http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q1000 .
it's a little bit
Am 28.06.2013 18:10, schrieb Gregor Hagedorn:
But the problem seems to be that http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1000
actually seems to be an information resource, i.e. under this URI html
content is directly being returned (rather than being http 303
redirected).
Am 29.06.2013 18:21, schrieb Sven Manguard:
I have to imagine that the reason why is that Wikivoyage is the closest
project
to Wikipedia out of all of the sister projects in many important ways. Yes,
their page organization system is a little bit different, but not as different
as say
Am 10.08.2013 22:42, schrieb Jiang BIAN:
So is there a spec about the stable external format?
If you could include a version number of the format used by the data, it
will be much easier to write compatible code and/or notice the changes
immediately.
I don't think there's a formal spec,
Am 23.08.2013 19:19, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
Heya folks :)
The URL datatype is now available on test.wikidata.org. It'd be
amazing if you could give it some testing. We hope to roll it out on
Monday however there are a few things outside our hands that still
need review. It might happen that
Am 25.08.2013 19:19, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
If we have an IRI DV, considering that URLs are special IRIs, it seems clear
that IRI would be the best way of storing them.
The best way of storing them really depends on the storage platform. It may be a
string or something else.
I think the
Am 06.09.2013 15:02, schrieb Denny Vrandečić:
in the case of MediaWiki wikis, I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
Technical_University_of_Denmarkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical%20University%20of%20Denmark
should
be preferred, but that is besides the point.
Yes, spaces are not
Hi all!
We have to impose a fixed limit on search result, since search results can not
be ordered by a unique ID, so paging is expensive.
The default for this limit is 50, but it SHOULD be 500 for bots. But the higher
limit for bots is currently not applied by the wbsearchentities module -
Am 13.09.2013 18:24, schrieb Benjamin Good:
Daniel,
Even 500 seems like a very low limit for this system unless I'm
misunderstanding something. Unless there is another way to execute queries
that return more rows than that, this would negate the possibility of a
huge number of applications
Am 25.09.2013 14:06, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Antoine Isaac ais...@few.vu.nl wrote:
Hello Denny,
I think we in Europeana had the same problem in the GLAMwiki toolset project
[1].
We wanted to submit the metadata we had for Europeana objects to be uploaded
in
Am 26.09.2013 14:54, schrieb Nicholas Humfrey:
Wikidata uses a fork of EasyRdf:
https://github.com/Wikidata/easyrdf_lite
Which should handle this correctly.
Looks like it doesn't, but I'll investigate.
However I don't seem to be able to content negotiate for Turtle today.
This is
/reduce the code
base to the parts needed in a particular scenario?
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Am 27.09.2013 01:17, schrieb Nicholas Humfrey:
On 26/09/2013 15:33, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 26.09.2013 14:54, schrieb Nicholas Humfrey:
Wikidata uses a fork of EasyRdf:
https
Am 01.10.2013 20:14, schrieb Tom Morris:
How about not creating a fork just so you can delete a couple of
directories? The full download is a whopping 260KB. Is that really too
big/complex to include in its entirety and just ignore the parts you don't
use?
Not deploying code we do not use,
Am 02.10.2013 17:00, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
Daniel,
When will the fixed data be generated and published?
October 14, if all goes well.
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Am 16.10.2013 15:11, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
On 10/2/13 1:09 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
Am 02.10.2013 17:00, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
Daniel,
When will the fixed data be generated and published?
October 14, if all goes well.
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Am 17.10.2013 20:16, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
On 10/17/13 12:46 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
I've run it through our variant of Vapour re. Linked Data verification:
http://bit.ly/1gM7oYa .
Nearly there. Your use of 302 is what's going to trip up existing Linked
Data
clients. Why aren't you
Am 21.10.2013 16:48, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
Can someone not change 302 to 303 re: RewriteRule ^/entity/(.*)$
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/$1 [R=302,QSA] ?
The thing is that we intended this to be an internal apache rewrite, not a HTTP
redirect at all. Because
Am 21.10.2013 23:43, schrieb Kingsley Idehen:
Kingsley, do you think having two 303s (from /entity/Q$1 to
/wiki/Special:EntityData/$1 and another one to
wiki/Special:EntityData/$1.xxx)
would be appropriate or at least better than what we have now?
Yes.
303 is what you want. Also note
Am 03.11.2013 19:59, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo):
*Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an
item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an
open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot about it:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55090)
Are
Am 04.11.2013 16:10, schrieb Amir Ladsgroup:
If you're using statement instead of site link who we can trace item from
article of wikisource to wikidata
This will very soon be possible with queries.
and how can show the interwikis in article of
wikisource?
You can't control the sidebar
This sounds feasible, yes.
If I understand correctly, you want one item for each work (or work
expression?), and one for each edition of that work. The editions would link
back to the work with a is-edition-of property (or the other way around: the
work item would have an editions statement for
Am 05.11.2013 01:12, schrieb David Cuenca:
Yes, that would be it: one work-item (acting as hub), x edition items
connected
to the work-item, each edition-item connected to its corresponding Wikisource
page with a sitelink and, on Wikisource, an auto-generated nav bar that lists
all sitelinks
Am 06.11.2013 13:43, schrieb David Cuenca:
On English Wikisource they were using this template to allow more than one
link
per language:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Interwiki-info
However it seems that is not working now on this page (the interwiki list
should
be much larger
Am 22.11.2013 11:37, schrieb Lukas Benedix:
A few points:
* Population should not be negative, would be nice if you can define a
min or max value in the property
User-defined constraints are a pretty big and complex issue. I agree that it
would be nice, but it's something to be carefully
Am 25.11.2013 06:45, schrieb Daniel A. R. Werner:
I can see two solutions to have this implemented:
-A: Gadgets with hard coded property specific rules. Very Wikidata specific
solution.
Eek.
-B: A generic constraint definition system for properties. No Wikidata
specific
JavaScript
Am 25.11.2013 13:51, schrieb Joe Filceolaire:
As long as it is possible to override it. There are all kinds of strange
corner
cases that we need to accommodate. For instance in elections to the Senate of
the Republic of Ireland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seanad_%C3%89ireann the
votes are
the users easily import the data when it's needed. An obvious example is
pre-filling of book/work metadata on Wikipedia articles, Wikisource books,
Commons files (and associated Wikidata entries).
+1
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Am 19.12.2013 11:36, schrieb Katie Filbert:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org
mailto:sprin...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi
S3 cluster has a `wikidatawiki_old` database presumably from before the
move
to s5. Seems to be an orphan not included in
party
software.
Of course this constraints should not be enforced by wikibase.
Lukas
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Am 03.02.2014 16:33, schrieb Christian Dullweber:
Hi Daniel,
we use the normal search as soon as more results are requested than we could
find and extend the result with properties only found by the search.
As it should be, thanks!
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https://github.com/bobuk/islands/blob/master/interactive-answers-eng.md
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Am 27.02.2014 01:30, schrieb David Cuenca:
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de
mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote:
To clarify: the problem is not loading data, but initializing widgets. The
browser isn't waiting for the server, it's
http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12345.json works as a redirect to the above, but
is discouraged, since it mixes the concept URI with a format suffix that is
meaningful only for the description, not the concept.
HTH
Daniel
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2014 17:15, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de
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Am 06.03.2014 17:12, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi,
So how do I indicate that up to a particular date Jakarta was called
Batavia ?
Muhammed Ali was called Cassius Clay
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