On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 15:04:31 -0700, Brian J Mingus wrote:
Wikipedia's policies are irrelevant: This phenomenon has entered the
lexicon, and is now well known simply due to its existence in Wikipedia.
I wouldn't say that Wikipedia's policies are irrelevant to anything
regarding Wikipedia, as
The debate over the capitalization of the title of the new Star Trek
movie of 2113, of course!
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On 10 Feb 2013 at 12:00, Keilana wrote:
They also have some American staff, I used to work for them.
How many people do those guys have working for them? We've run into
two on this list already. Do you guys have any dirt you can dish on
them?
By the way, in the digest version of the list
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:55:33 -0700 (MST), Fred Bauder wrote:
Clearly, it is.
So is anybody going to do anything about it? Should Wikimedia Legal
be notified?
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I just ran into this Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/Wikipedia411
It has Wikipedia as part of its username/URL, and uses
Wikipedia.org as its account name (displayed at the top of its
tweets). However, the description on its account page says Facts
brought to you daily. Not affiliated
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:46:51 +, Andrew Gray wrote:
* The three-column system will look strangely constrained for pages
with very short (1 screen height) infoboxes or very few headings.
* It's not clear what would happen to our usual mass of footer
navboxes, most of which assume
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 10:02:31 -04000, Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
With some difficulty and a little cut-and-pasting, I can get some
semblance of properly formatted replies on one of those gadgets.
Well, except for the fact that it doesn't generate messages with
RFC-compliant line length, anyway
On Sep 1, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Wyatt wrote:
I have my iPhone mail's sig say that in order to explain the discrepancy in
formatting caused when I switch to Thunderbird in the middle of an email
conversation.
With some difficulty and a little cut-and-pasting, I can get some semblance of
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:35:43 +0200, Martijn Hoekstra wrote:
Google CEO Larry Page is a great big poopyhead
should be reverted no matter what
Even if you can find a Reliable Source [tm] for it?
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:25:31 + (GMT), Matthew Bowker wrote:
Even through all that, I believe AfC needs to exist. It does
provide a great service to anon editors who won't create accounts
for whatever reason.
Are supporters of AfC known as creationists?
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:22:23 -0400, Horologium wrote:
I have seen pages with endless external links, and in those, there
seems to be an equal number of spam links at the top and the
bottom of the list. Usually the links in the middle are the best,
but of course, YMMV.
That might be an
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:34:49 -0500, Anthony wrote:
Put 184.172.174.94 for wikipediareview.com in your hosts file.
(Fortunately, as SOPA has not passed, this is legal :)).
Like I'm gonna go reconfiguring my own system just to get around the
fact that those guys can't keep their act together
On the day that Wikipedia is temporarily blacked out, it seems like
one of its most prominent groups of critics has had a possibly more
permanent blackout of its own... the infamous BADSITE, Wikipedia
Review, might be dead. Going to its site today yields a GoDaddy
parking page saying that its
On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:01:33 +, Charles Matthews wrote:
That said, I deprecate getting design issues mixed up with others. The
use of emotive terms such as cold and unfriendly implies things about
intention and fault that aren't exactly helpful. I don't know whether
arguing that WP is sui
In tonight's episode of The Amazing Race (a US reality show where
contestants race around the world solving clues, treasure-hunt
style), one of the puzzles for the contestants while they were in
Belgium involved the comic strip Tintin. While the host (Phil)
explained a little bit about that
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:08:41 +0100, Tony Sidaway wrote:
The only important rule here is to be bold. We really ought to take more
steps to disenfranchise those who repeatedly stamp on attempts to create new
content. They know who they are, and I mean it. We should stop them hard.
So the way to
There have been a bunch of items in my Twitter feed about how the
Italian Wikipedia has shut down in response to a proposed repressive
law regarding mandatory takedowns of allegedly defamatory online
material in Italy. I have some problems with such a move, as it sets
a precedent of having a
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:11:41 +0100, wikien-l-Tony Sidaway wrote:
Here is an interesting article by David Swindle of Front Page, about
Wikipedia's problems with biographies of living persons. Swindle sees it in
terms of a persistent left wing bias.
And (at least when I went there) it plays
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 01:26:41 -0700, Ray Saintonge wrote:
I confess that when my wife and I are sitting in front of the TV, and a
question arises from whatever we are watching, Wikipedia's relevant
articles become a first source of information on our laptops while we're
watching. When we do
On 28 Mar 2011 at 12:00, Fred Bauder wrote:
A site, where for $1,000, corrections to one's Wikipedia article can be
posted:
Did Andrew Knight really pay $1000 to write Wikipedia entry is
anodyne and largely accurate. Never mind, let's keep it that way?
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:25:17 + (GMT), wikien-l-Andreas Kolbe
wrote:
and she admits she thought it was a weird religion - - until she
met Cruise. I'm not saying that I'm not a Scientologist because I
think something's wrong with Scientology -- I want to be really
clear about that, Jada
I note that among those earliest articles were separate articles on
every single character in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, including Bum
Number 1 and Passenger Number 1 through Passenger Number 4.
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:49:28 +, Charles Matthews wrote:
Two or three years ago I was much more in the thick of things, and I
remember telling a rather bemused American at dinner at the Alexandria
Wikimania about the four political parties on enWP.
Do you have an online description of
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:17:36 -0500, Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Ensure that (administrators|wardens|whatever we decide to call them) feel
no qualms
about
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:43:03 -0700, Cary Bass wrote:
On 07/21/2010 12:07 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
Indeed. The address of the old office was kept quiet for security
reasons, but the address of the new office has always been
publicly available. To give him the benefit of the tiniest bit of
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:43:05 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
en:wp does allow quite a few historic images under fair use. And no,
they're not safe. But we're in this for the long haul, not a pretty
page today.
If you post any fair-use images, you'd better be prepared to defend
them and jump
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:18:03 -0400, Abd wrote:
Durova's history is a classic example. She was hounded by a screaming
mob when she made a mistake, even though she recognized the error and
undid it within an hour.
I might well be counted as part of that screaming mob since I was
one of the
On Sun, 30 May 2010 21:49:49 -0400, Abd wrote:
And I feel that I did. I've watched the community, in a few cases,
adopt as consensus what I'd proposed to jeers and boos, there is
some satisfaction in that
Maybe the initial reaction you get to your proposals, even ones that
eventually
On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:50:04 -0500, Emily Monroe wrote:
Not really. Wheel warring is a serious offense.
Worse than top-posting? :-)
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:45:27 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
1) As a rule, all language wikis should use International Phonetic
Alphabet as their standard pronunciation scheme. Very few appear to
actually do.
2) All language wikis should attempt to use IPA to pronounce the
endonym of a foreign
On 17 Jan 2010 09:13:08, Fred Bauder wrote:
I'm so torn. On the one hand, the hypocrisy is blinding - filtering
its search results is exactly what Google was doing in China. On the
other hand, it's Encyclopedia Dramatica...
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Oh, they're cool; shine it on...
Fred Bauder
The latest fundraising slogan I've observed says As a professional
scientist, Wikipedia is my go-to source for ideas and concepts new to
me. Donate for this? You bet! Apparently not a computer
scientist, since they know that Go-To is Considered harmful! :-)
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Steve Bennett wrote:
Here's another: when someone searches for an article (let's say norwegian
antarctic expedition) that doesn't exist, let's encourage them to add it -
we have successfully located someone interested in a topic that we don't
have an article about. This is a good start.
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:03:04 +, David Gerard wrote:
People are a problem.
The solution, as I believe Bender said on Futurama, is Kill All
Humans!
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:29:14 +, Giacomo M-Z wrote:
Troling? what is trolling about pointing out that IRC is not the place to be
dicusisng Wikipedia policy affairs? Secondly, it may be free now (I have no
idea), but it certainly was not in the past - ?15 was the figure at one
time.
For
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:54:47 -0800, Ryan Delaney wrote:
All those servers and all that bandwidth isn't
free.
But from what I can see of their budgets, not all that much of their
funds are going to that. The rest is going for stuff like
maintaining an office in a much more expensive city
Today's Dilbert strip, and the Language Log commentary on it, sort of
reminds me of how Wikipedia policy is made:
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1772
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:59:06 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote:
I disagree, and I'd like to see file renaming opened up. It sucks
seeing a file with a blatantly wrong name sitting there for years.
Sure, the file names could be totally arbitrary (a882be8.jpg) or they
could be extremely meaningful -
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:32:05 -0500, Emily Monroe wrote:
I'm going to contribute to this thread backwards, replying first to
this message and then replying to other peoples' reply. I hope other
people don't mind at all.
I don't care what order you reply to messages, but I wish you
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:19:05 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
PS: Daniel, we know you read the digests, but would you please change
the subject header in your replies to match the actual header of the
thread? Thanks.
Yes, I try to, as part of the extensive copy-and-pasting I need to do
when
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:06:45 -0500, Keegan Paul wrote:
In my opinion, nothing. In any societal construct, 10% do the management,
30% does the other work, and 60% come an go as they please. In a way, it is
for the best since you actually get care an concern rather than forced
labor.
Do they
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:06:19 -0400 (EST), gwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Complaint Over Doctor Who Posted Inkblot Test
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/business/24inkblot.html
How is Doctor Who involved in this? Were the inkblots retrieved by
way of the Tardis? :-)
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:31:24 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
( 3b) (It's the infrastructure/databases/operatingsystems/browsers
themselves that facilitate this ease - not just wiki. Still, we
don't call ourselves the inter...pedia or the web..pedia for a
reason: Those domain names were already
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:52:48 +0100 (BST), Andrew Turvey wrote:
See [[Wikipedia:Reviewers]] for more information.
Not to be confused with Wikipedia Review, of course.
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:40:23 +0100, wikien-l-Tony Sidaway wrote:
Be bold and remove crap,
Tell that to all the people on this list who insist on quoting back
half a dozen copies of the list footer, untrimmed.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:12:42 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
Imagine the Obama Wikipedia Care plan. Can the government
successfully intervene to save Wikipedia?
We need a single-payer Wikipedia system, so that uninsured families
aren't debilitated with ruinously high Wikipedia bills! Oops, wait a
On 12 Aug 2009 at 14:59, Emily Monroe wrote:
It's good to see you assuming good faith and setting an example.
Oh, I just love sarcasm on the internet. It leaves so much room for
confusion.
Emily
On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:02 AM, David Gerard wrote:
2009/8/12 Marc Riddell
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:08:52 -0500, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
the sum of all knowledge.
...but *married* human beings can't. (Whether they're in an opposite-
sex or same-sex marriage.)
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:40:53 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote:
1) Wales' role in the genesis of Wikipedia is much more significant
than Sanger's. Co-founder is giving too much credit. The guy that
has the idea, the inspiration and the drive to make it happen deserves
more credit than the guy who
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:04:58 -0400, wjhon...@{gag,vomit,retch}aol.com
wrote:
You have completely ignored the requirement that I am here *solely*
referring to items which live, online, behind subscription walls. If
the item is free, then it does not. So that removes the majority of
your
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:27:16 -0400, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
You're right. Several years ago, we had discussed this very issue.
That nothing free is really free is you have to pay to travel *to* it.
IIRC we basically agreed that traveling about, is just part of your
normal life.
So if I
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:37:16 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Cary Bassc...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
although you could not find anyone to agree with you
Actually not true. Fred and George I can think of off-hand.
You mean these guys?
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:33:45 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
Wales, who was for a long time our
most upstanding proponent of openness, and who made it a point to deal
personally and openly with nearly every issue that came up - on this
very list, as a matter of fact - would be quite unhappy with
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:52:51 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/922216/BBC-Radio-4-launches-Wikipedia-parody/
LONDON - BBC Radio 4 is launching a broadwebcasting show parodying
the internet by mocking pop-ups, search boxes and other aspects of
online activity.
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:56:32 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
From: Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com
Date: 2009/7/22
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Watchlistr.com, an outside site that asks for
Wikimedia passwords
To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
I'm not sure what to do about this; it
On 17 Jul 2009 17:47:49 -0400, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
{{fact}}
Can we have a naval-gazing article on the history of the policy??
Perhaps we'd be able to address questions of how it came to be.
Contact the United States Naval Observatory and get somebody there to
write one.
On Fri, 17 Jul
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:58:08 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote:
Is anonymity important to many Wikipedia contributors? I had sort of
assumed we provided anonymity as a sort of courtesy, not as any real
right.
You were apparently absent during the BADSITES Wars of a couple of
years ago, where one of
On Fri, 8 May 2009 02:02:10 +, pemika ruk. wrote:
Fuck U
Is that the university you went to? What did you major in?
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On 26 Apr 2009 at 09:24:54 -0700 (PDT), Ken Arromdee wrote:
From the Foundation-L post:
we sent a letter to
Wikipedia Art that was aimed, not to threaten legal action, but to outline
what our legal concerns were, and to try to begin a negotiation to resolve
the matter amicably -- ideally
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:12:34 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
Hmm. Wonder what a next model could look like.
http://www.cwtv.com/shows/americas-next-top-model12
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:02:52 EDT, wjhon...@{gag,vomit,retch}aol.com
wrote:
That's overreading and here is why.
Omaha is in Nebraska. Henry Fonda was born in Omaha.
Henry Fonda was born in Nebraska.
Nebraska is a state with a low population which grows mainly corn.
Henry Fonda was born in a
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:31:41 -0400, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org
wrote:
Anyway, I was just rereading some of the discussion of Larry Sanger and
Wikipedia, and noticed that while Wales claims that Jeremy Rosenfeld was the
first to propose using wikis to work on Nupedia, he admits that it was
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:04:20 -0700, Delirium wrote:
I think you might also be aiming at the wrong audience to some extent.
You seem to accept the media-narrative founder myth of Wikipedia as
this thing that sprang whole cloth out of nothingness due to the
ingenuity of Jimmy Wales; save
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Pot meet kettle.
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Talk%3AHomeopathy%2FDraftdiff=100448194oldid=100448185
A lot of people have the sort of double standard I discussed in my
WP:SAUCE essay:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:30:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill Carter wrote:
Please ignore this Green Ink Day nonsense, and address the Alan
Cabal article that has been expunged from Wikipedia's mainspace to
its userspace for unjust reasons:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unlov
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:13:23 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder wrote:
Wikipedia works like Wall Street works,
Not exactly the most auspicious example to use these days...
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On 3 Mar 2009 at 11:49:01 -0500, Gwern Branwen wrote:
All of those are pretty interesting things - what side of the road
tells you both historical information, and also is terribly practical
if you're there*
* Although one certainly hopes that anyone driving in a particular
country will
On 16 Feb 2009 at 10:30, Alvaro Garc?a wrote:
Do you frequently get *confirmation* e-mails? How many times do you
sign up?
Confirmations of DVDs being sent or received, which are generated
very frequently in the course of use of a Netflix account.
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My latest Netflix confirmation e-mail had this:
Get personalized recommendations from our wide selection in Drama.
The more movies you rate, the better your recommendations will be.
My first thought was that they were going to start suggesting areas
of Wikipedia internal politics for me to
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:29:29 +, David Gerard wrote:
Sorry, Bono has rights to islands in the Caribbean. Jimbo owns Florida
(except Clearwater, which is owned by Scientology, and the Everglades,
which are owned by Carl Hiaasen) and we have the Arbitration Committee
yacht cruising between
On 29 Jan 2009 at 10:45:32 +, Carcharoth wrote:
New technology, new ways to make errors, and hilarious edit summary:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitrationdiff=267165064
Sorry my error in that reversion (actually killing a bug on my HP
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:54:59 -0500, Elias Friedman wrote:
It's usually considered bad form to change your talk page comments,
especially if someone has already responded to them. This is because such
editing can change the tone and meaning of the other editor's comments. The
usual course of
On 28 Dec 2008 at 00:44:00 EST, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
What I said is that subjects speaking about themselves have a wide latitude.
If the New Bedford Post (newspaper) reports that Britney Spears was born on
Mars and Britney in her personal blog reports that I was not!, we can
report
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