[Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

2012-07-25 Thread Bishakha Datta
Greetings, all. And apologies. This resolution approving the Wikimedia Chapters' selections to the Board of Trustees was unanimously approved, in-person, on July 11, 2012. It took much longer to publish than it should have due to a procedural issue. It has finally been published at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Protest against ACTA/Mexico in Spanish Wikinews

2012-07-25 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/24/12 4:32 PM, Juergen Fenn wrote: FYI: Spanish Wikinews today bears a site notice in protest against the Mexican government signing the ACTA agreement. It says: The internet must remain free. The Freedom of the internet is in peril. The Spanish Wikinews community has issued a press

Re: [Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

2012-07-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/25 Thomas Souza-Buckup thomassouzabuc...@gmail.com: Lodewijk I agree with you. It makes a lot of sense to start now a negotiation with the IOC in order to prepare for the next Olympic Games taking place in Brazil in 2016. The winter games in Sochi 2014 are supposed to be quite

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC Eligibility Status

2012-07-25 Thread Florence Devouard
Just checking The meta page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/2012_Round_1_Eligibility_Status outlines that amongst the obligations is the fact of providing financial reports in English What we have considered as 'financial reports' : financial reports in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
See http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Talk:Resolution:Personal_image_hiding_feature Votes were initially cast on 11 July with Phoebe and Arne still on the board. Then Jimmy changed his vote on 16 July. On 25 July 2012 14:50, BĂ©ria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: If they got confirmed at July

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

2012-07-25 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Beria, I am sure Bishakha will give a more thorough answer if I am mistaken, but from what I heard from Board members when I asked the same question: the new board members fully participated in the meeting on the 11 July, but for technical reasons and simplicity's sake, they only assumed the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

2012-07-25 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/7/24 birgitte...@yahoo.com: On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/24 birgitte...@yahoo.com: [...] So I definitely believe what it.WM wants to do, to connect people with local events, has real value. And that it has value for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

2012-07-25 Thread aude
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/7/24 birgitte...@yahoo.com: On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/24 birgitte...@yahoo.com: [...] So I definitely believe what it.WM wants to do, to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

2012-07-25 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/7/25 aude aude.w...@gmail.com: There also are infoboxes and categories that people use to indicate where they live. I think this solutions has the same drawbacks of using an opt-in gadget. It could also be a preference, to make it private info. (and would be nice to get geonotices for

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Chapters Association: Standing Orders, a new proposal

2012-07-25 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, In accordance with the Chair, I have published a new proposal for standing orders of the WCA Council. More explanations here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Standing_Orders Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
I think the clear moral of this story is that, as accommodating and reader-friendly you can be, you just can't make everyone happy. We should listen to all opinions and suggestions, but expect to decide most of the time that the suggestions are simply dumb or unhelpful. On 25 July 2012 16:22,

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Subject: IRC office hours to discuss FDC eligibility criteria and next steps

2012-07-25 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Reminder that this meeting begins in 15 minutes. ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2012

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
On 17 July 2012 00:46, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I honestly don't understand why it is taking so many years to develop a WYSIWYG editor, for example, or a new Commons search function. Honestly, people, if you want to create paid jobs, don't inflate the chapter structure, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ratiopol

2012-07-25 Thread bretwa
Hello Nathan, Thanks for having looked at my proposal. Of course I think too that this project won't be affiliate to the fundation. I have already talk about this with Anthere. But I think it's important to do this step, one day maybe things will evolve, so no matter if the affiliation is not a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Most people are stupid and they still deserve a great reading experience.. Our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge with everyone. When people fail to read Wikipedia.. and they do.. there is a reason to do better for them. Any effective measure that provides a better experience for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas Morton
One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to seperate editing and reading. I know the point is to make editing easy - and to encourage readers to become editors. But realistically most of them will not - and we could do significantly better in streamlining our anon.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hkwrote: On 17 July 2012 00:46, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I honestly don't understand why it is taking so many years to develop a WYSIWYG editor, for example, or a new Commons search function. Honestly,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 July 2012 20:48, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: So there were how many years of faffing about before they hired *one guy* for this project? This is an organisation with a $20m annual budget, now acquiring umpteen paid chapter officials. Wikipedia is about as user-friendly as

[Wikimedia-l] Where is the WMF annual plan?

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas Dalton
Where is the WMF annual plan? My understanding was that it was supposed to be published by the end of last week. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 July 2012 20:44, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to seperate editing and reading. I know the point is to make editing easy - and to encourage readers to become editors. But realistically most of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas Morton
On 25 July 2012 21:01, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 July 2012 20:44, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to seperate editing and reading. I know the point is to make editing easy - and to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
David, Here is a different approach. Ask the Foundation's paid programming staff if there is ever so much for them to do that other things they know should be done, or that other people have asked them to do, fall by the wayside; or how often it happens that project dates slip and deadlines are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is the WMF annual plan?

2012-07-25 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Thomas, it is indeed already approved by the Board and will be published simultaneously with the usual accompanying QA very soon - expect it before the end of this week. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the WMF annual plan? My

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Where is the WMF annual plan?

2012-07-25 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks, Tilman. That matches the timeline I understood, thanks to Wikimania-related lag. Sam. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Thomas, it is indeed already approved by the Board and will be published simultaneously with the usual accompanying QA

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On 25 July 2012 22:04, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: On 25 July 2012 21:01, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: (This is why I'm so disappointed the mobile app doesn't do editing, for example. Or, indeed, some way to take a photo and quickly add it to an article.)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thomas Morton, 25/07/2012 22:04: We also need to be understanding of the 99% - the ones who just want to read. Our interface should suit the reader - with a prominent prompt to edit. Which once clicked opens things up into the world of editing Wikipedia. But if you don't click that prompt then

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania Scholarships process

2012-07-25 Thread Jessie Wild
Hello everyone! We are in need of revamping the Wikimania Scholarships Process, and your help is needed! Please participate in the discussion on meta[1]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships Talk to you on meta - Jessie BACKGROUND: Every year, the Wikimedia Foundation,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania Scholarships process

2012-07-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jessie Wild, 26/07/2012 00:54: Hello everyone! We are in need of revamping the Wikimania Scholarships Process, and your help is needed! Please participate in the discussion on meta[1]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships There's plenty of feedback also on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 09:04:46PM +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: This all ties back to my view that we don't think of the average reader enough :) What do we want the average reader to do? Who do we want them to be. Do we want them to be an encyclopedia reader, a wiki editor, or ... something

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 09:48:50PM +0200, Svip wrote: Oh and here is a fun fact I have discovered over the years; reading large texts of a serif typeface is a lot easier than a sans-serif typeface. See, I'm *not* crazy to think that! phew That's why I still use the classic skin, it's the

[Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours with the Analytics team, Monday, July 30, 2012 at 19:00 UTC

2012-07-25 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi all, you are cordially invited to the first ever IRC office hours of the Foundation's recently formed Analytics team, taking place in #wikimedia-analytics on Freenode on Monday, July 30 at 19:00 UTC / noon PT (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19day=30month=07year=2012

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.orgwrote: And we may want to consider if it is really _everyone_ we want to edit our articles. I don't believe you actually said this. I would say this is a theme that I have seen on the wikipedia. People dont have time to