of practitioners.
Wikipedia long ago lost the battle with respect to inclusion of some
information which in only included due to the persistence of biased editors who
have acquired skill in manipulating our guidelines. Generally, that tends to
the authoritarian left.
Fred Bauder
- Original
An executive summary is common at the head of many reports and articles. Only
sections in the body of the article would be cited. Somewhat like a lede but
more detailed. The main body of the article would still have a lede.
Fred Bauder
It is legal. It limits
> liability by notifying users of various realities, such as, we cannot, and
> do not, guarantee reliability, so use at your own risk.
>
> Fred Bauder
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Amir E. Aharoni
> To: wikimedia-l
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liability by notifying
users of various realities, such as, we cannot, and do not, guarantee
reliability, so use at your own risk.
Fred Bauder
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To: wikimedia-l
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Official disclaimers
Very good. If any willing editor runs into trouble or is made to feel unwelcome
or subjected to unfair criticism, that is the time to intervene. We are however
not in a position to discourage women or minority editors from "recruiting" or
encouraging other minority editors or women to edit. Any
dary sources, I believe?
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:48 GMT+01:00 FRED BAUDER <fredb...@fairpoint.net>:
> Autobiographical writing published by the mainstream press with editors
> and fact checkers is more reliable.
>
> Fred
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Paulo
in Wikipedia is that the
confuse definition of primary source often leads to such egregious
situations as some newspaper saying what the director of an institution is,
is prefered to the very institution correcting the name. I've seen this
over and over.
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:45 GMT+01:00 FRED B
rces as well,
but generally not subjected to any review. There should be some way to
distinguish between the two types.
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:40 GMT+01:00 FRED BAUDER <fredb...@fairpoint.net>:
> And should be used, just as an image of a headstone can be used, in
> preference to some writing abo
l.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I posted this a while ago, an investigation on gender bias
> where
> > a
> > > > > member
> > > >
t; > > > is
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > we really want to take that leap, do we really want to share
> the
> > > sum
> > > > of
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > knowledge, do we want t
.springeropen.com/articles/10.
> > > > > > 1140/epjds/s13688-016-0066-4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are many things that can be addressed individually and as a
> > > > > movement
> > > > > > or co
Cheers!
> > > > >
> > > > > El jue., may. 10, 2018 10:27, Peter Southwood <
> > > > > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Notabil
t on our personal
>>>> impressions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> El jue., may. 10, 2018 10:27, Peter Southwood <
>>>>> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
>>
t; > projects may work around this problem, but would then probably not
> be
> > > > open
> > > > > for anyone to edit. Or can you suggest another way?
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > > >
Lucille B. Buchanan might make an article:
http://www.blackpast.org/aaw/jones-lucy-lucile-berkeley-buchanan-1884-1989
Fred
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> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
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> On
> > > > Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Béland
> > > > Sent: 10 May 2018 15:01
> &g
Women editors might have something to add about nursing and the history of
nursing that adds gender-specific value, increasing our coverage of the
subject. So a workshop at a nursing convention might be valuable.
Fred
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From: Amir E. Aharoni
with getting up to
speed on gender or whatever.
Fred Bauder
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We should sue Billy the Kid while we are at it. And Hitler... Imagine the
bragging he does down in Hell.
Fred
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Sent: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:45:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:
I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles
that have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would
be necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious
problems. In general more money, however, draws flies even better than
shit.
Fred
with
100% beef with no preservatives, no fillers and is topped with daily
sliced tomatoes and onions, fresh lettuce, pickles, ketchup and mayo,
served on a soft sesame seed bun." happens to be factually true and
cannot be said of the products of, say, McDonalds where the "fixings"
arr
to
function because the procedure is too cumbersome and punishing. Which
is why certain matters have gradually shifted to staff who can make
quick decisions and have clear authority to do so. Some things are
done by, or at the direction of, the legal department, for example.
Fred Bauder
On Sat, 18 Feb
A blanket ban sweeps in possible contributors and potential employees.
A well-crafted policy, properly administered, generally, would not.
Fred Bauder
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 04:15:33 -0500
Yair Rand <yyairr...@gmail.com> wrote:
When and how the Wikimedia Foundation should associate
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:35:30 +0100
Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
Well, there were speakers who were not able to attend Wikimanias in
Haifa
and Cairo, to start with, because of similar bans, and the general
response
then was "Whatever place we choose, someone is always
of free speech means in practice.
Fred Bauder
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after people have recovered from the election. How
about...reminding me two weeks from today. I might've recovered by
then,
seriously...
Thanks!
Craig Newmark
founder, craigslist
On Nov 2, 2016 12:44 PM, "FRED BAUDER" <fredb...@fairpoint.net>
wrote:
Craig,
I don't exp
Craig,
I don't expect you to do anything about it, but Hillary Clinton
presidential campaign, 2016 has been so much an object of political
editing by Clinton supporters that it looks more like an ad for
Hillary than a Wikipedia article.
Fred Bauder
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:43:32 -0400
Craig
is one of the meanings of "Ignore all rules:" Assume the rules
are reasonable and edit.
Fred Bauder
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:24:01 -0400
"FRED BAUDER" <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote:
I have started the article Ravel Law on en. Basic access is free to
the public; however, we could ask for "professional" access which is
offered free
Video is not necessary.
Fred
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:42:34 -0700
David Cuenca Tudela dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
I third that!
However we are entering the field of privacy, because as useful the
virtual
meetings can be, they might be intrusive if you are in your home and
you
show your whole
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:27:09 -0700
Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Since WMF is doing a strategy update (with which I'm not involved,
but hope
that the community can influence), I'm wondering what others
thoughts are
on Wikipedia's strategic opportunities and threats.
What do
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:53:47 +0530
Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote:
On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
Need I say anything else?
I think you've hit the nail on the head. It should not be easier to
dominate a player-killing MUD than to edit an article on Wikipedia.
don't do the same simpler association number of speakers =
potential number of contributors because that strategy will be
*surely*
wrong.
Regards
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:56 AM, FRED BAUDER fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:25:23 +0100
Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote:
I partially disagree with this vision.
Without the North American and European men there would not be any
opportunity to say: we would share the sum of the human knowledge.
Probably Wikimedia would not exist.
True,
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:29:57 +0100
Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote:
As this thread demonstrates, what discussions about the massive
gender imbalance in Wikimedia editorship need is more men discussing
why it
might or might not be important.
/sarcasm
Radical feminist notions that men
That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so
long as it's relevant and factual.
That's the point; it would not matter if women contributed so long as
it's relevant and factual. Half the humans that could contribute are
not. Actually many more than half, as there are
2015 06:17 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why WMF should reconsider the 3-month
gender gap project-related decision
On 8 Jan 2015 16:11, FRED BAUDER fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
...
I've noticed that women are often quite motivated and good at
writing
grant proposals
It's a rhetorical question, but, based on experience, I would probably
chime in if a similar proposal was floated about native people such as
African tribes or American Indians; most hardly ever edit, even in
their own language, and throwing money at the problem is unlikely to
be productive.
I would prefer decency as a core value.
Fred
On 05/08/2014, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
...
We have a reply:
https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside/status/496644233580003328
@jayvdb @guardian @Wikipedia @wikisignpost We won't know unless
Wikipedia chooses to make that
I would prefer decency as a core value.
Fred
On 05/08/2014, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
...
We have a reply:
https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside/status/496644233580003328
@jayvdb @guardian @Wikipedia @wikisignpost We won't know unless
Wikipedia chooses to make that
On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the
issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine.
Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the
community at large?
--
Google's motto is Do no evil
I suppose you would have ours be do all notable evil
Fred
Re:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/02/wikipedia-page-google-link-hidden-right-to-be-forgotten
If Google disappearing a Wikipedia article is a notable news event,
wouldn't that meet the
The title of the article above an image of Jimmy Wales, is: Wikipedia
link to be hidden in Google under 'right to be forgotten' law
Request for blocking of search results granted to anonymous applicant is
first to affect an entry in the online encyclopaedia
Fred
Re:
Once the money an organization obtain from grants out matches anything
they get from anywhere else they become autonomous. Community support
just becomes a box to check.
Fred
This week's issue of the English Wikipedia Signpost delivers mildly
shocking news about the opinion of a prominent
On sv:wp we are several hundreds of competent and active contributers.
Many of these have limited technical competence, so it will only be
about a third of these able to enter iw links in wikidata and writing a
template. This still leaves a few hundreds who easily supports the other
2/3rds
I'm not sure. Someone who posts deficient article that they obviously
have
a special relationship to, where the language in addition is deficient,
may
easily be meet by a deletion request. The difficulty with promoting a
company in Wikipedia is the promotion part, not the identity of the
A nationalist point of view is not neutral point of view. I can imagine
what the dictator of Kazakstan considers a suitable article.
Fred
Yesterday Yuri, ED of WMUA (and my college in FDC) was interviewed in
the main morning program on Swedish Radio re the ua.wp contra ru:wp in
Ukraine and of
the world, its coverage should be of a higher standard. The
Ottoman Empire represents one of the more relevant civilisations, now
consider all the countries who are considered to be less relevant...
Thanks,
GerardM
On 14 October 2013 14:57, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote
I have posted 4 sentences, kind of a draft of a draft of a draft.
It is very overwhelming for me to draft text with near-legal precision on
my own.
-- ã¨ããç½ãç« (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
I've added a bit. I'll do some copyediting later.
Fred
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, at 18:47, Fred Bauder wrote:
I've been thinking about this. Wikipedia is a compilation of
information
from sources that are generally considered reliable. The trouble is
that
the information in those sources varies. Rather than deciding
ourselves,
after all most of us
I've been thinking about this. Wikipedia is a compilation of information
from sources that are generally considered reliable. The trouble is that
the information in those sources varies. Rather than deciding ourselves,
after all most of us are amateurs, what the truth is, we present all the
views
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
...
I, for one, share your perception that NPOV is a problem on some
(perhaps
most) Wikipedias,
asaf, could you please elaborate a little bit what you mean by this?
do you not share the experience that the editors
I am not disputing how settled it is but I don't think meta sufficiently
achieves expressing how settled this core value really is. As you stated
it
would be more of a restatement and re-emphasis of what already is a core
value.
-- ã¨ããç½ãç« (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
Yes, good idea,
Hi all,
I realize Resolution:Biographies of living people[1] implies this but I
fail to see any resolution that establishes neutral point of view as one
of
our non-negotiable values. I think there is merit in having an
over-arching
resolution on a Neutral Point of View policy.
I also
That was the purpose of the original arbitration committee. Finding a
mentor is kind of hard nowdays as there are so many users who might help
but probably will not. On the other hand, many requests I have received
and looked into are from people who are making trouble themselves;
sometimes very
That's Sweden all right, it's like a small town. Thousands of
administrators from scores of countries is another matter. Even requests
for administration is very difficult as, unless you do big time research,
or spend your life monitoring others edits and activity, you just don't
know much. Voting
For a serious discussion to happen you will need to disclose some
examples. The next step is to move beyond anecdote to see if there is a
general problem.
The particular incident Rui brought up has been pretty much explained,
but the question remains about have a new or casual editor who commits
folks
alike, and that everybody shall be able to contribute on equal
conditions, a more realistic organization to protect the users must be
put in place.
Regards
Lars Gardenius
Von: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
An: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l
Yes, that is pretty much the situation. The howls of outraged anguish
from those who were not able to dictate (really bad) content or practices
form the core of our organized opposition. That does not mean systemic
deficiencies don't exist; just that we must look and think in a noisy
environment.
OP = original poster, Rui
Sorry but I don't what/who OP is.
And you still misunderstand. This is not a question about consensus over
some article, it is about normal human behaviour, and that it sometimes
is not there. If you haven't seen that happening I don't know where you
have been
that
responsibility nor that power.
regards,
Lars Gardenius
Von: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
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Gesendet: 18:44 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from
Gardenius
Von: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
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Gesendet: 13:28 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from
No thank you, I do not have a dispute; you do; please follow the dispute
resolution procedure.
Fred
Hi Tom
Thanks for your contribution. However, you seem to have missed the point.
So Lisa violates the 3RR principle and you lecture me. And I lodge a
complaint over the 3RR and that gets
to observe the effect of focusing on past
outrages on public morale, but that is their burden to bear not ours to
share.
Fred
Hoi,
Fred, what is different in your scenario from what happens in the USA ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 3 September 2013 00:23, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote
that it is
based
in the US is incidental.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 3 September 2013 14:36, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Any censor from the United States or European governments that works
directly with us (I have no personal knowledge of this, I just know it
has to be) is concerned
I guess emergencies should not go to legal as there may be a considerable
delay.
Fred
Are there more successful attempts?
It would be difficult to enumerate successful attempts since, by
definition, they would have been successful at not being known. :-)
-- Marc
I once suppressed
Are there more successful attempts?
It would be difficult to enumerate successful attempts since, by
definition, they would have been successful at not being known. :-)
-- Marc
I once suppressed information about a troop movement underway in Iraq
after a request. Troop movements are
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote:
The account and/or underlying IP is
blocked. That is the technical
If you write or add to articles based on journal articles you might
complete this survey:
https://lsucommunications.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_0PTVlA7OUCLqkyV
Fred
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I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please
do
set me straight.
You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would
be easier for jaywalking in a National Park. It applies only to extreme
situations.
Fred
Dear Colleagues at the Foundation
I just came across an artecle called White Africans of European
ancestry.
What is that even supposed to mean? Who would be any other white
people
if not of Europen ancestry?
The Ainu people, not that it matters.
Fred
See attachment.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data
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the NSA has created a multi-tiered system that allows analysts to store
interesting content in other databases, such as one named Pinwale which
can store material for up to five years.
Fred
is this related to the foundation?
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
See attachment.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/nsa-top-secret-program-online-data
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I think it's more reasonable to assume that
Wikipedia (which shares many features with Google, Yahoo, Twitter,
Facebook and other social networks) has been the subject of this kind
of demand than that it hasn't. No one with direct knowledge would be
able to do anything other than deny it, but
I think it's more reasonable to assume that
Wikipedia (which shares many features with Google, Yahoo, Twitter,
Facebook and other social networks) has been the subject of this kind
of demand than that it hasn't. No one with direct knowledge would be
able to do anything other than deny it, but we
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
de:wp convinced you. What would it take to convince you on en:wp? (I'm
asking for a clear objective criterion here. If you can only offer a
subjective one, please explain how de:wp convinced you when en:wp
hasn't.)
As with other inventions that produced an inferior product at a much
lower price, from the printing press to the steam-driven loom to
Wikipedia, what happens now is largely in the hands of the people
experimenting with the new tools, rather than defending themselves from
them.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
As with other inventions that produced an inferior product at a much
lower price, from the printing press to the steam-driven loom to
Wikipedia, what happens now is largely in the hands of the people
experimenting
on a machine loom
compares remotely with Navajo weaving.
Fred
On 26 July 2013 13:48, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
As with other inventions that produced an inferior product at a much
lower price, from the printing press to the steam-driven loom to
Wikipedia, what happens now
I just checked the archives. The original message was not received by the
mailing list, for whatever reason, probably misaddressed. This message of
inquiry is the first message in the tread. I think you should resend the
original message if your mail program permits that. Sounds interesting...
I just checked the archives. The original message was not received by the
mailing list, for whatever reason, probably misaddressed. This message of
inquiry is the first message in the tread. I think you should resend the
original message if your mail program permits that. Sounds interesting...
Resent so I have an original copy to reply to.
Dear All
It is certainly not news that a lot of deliberately biased editing goes on
on the Wikipedia. It is equally known that there are mechanims to address
these issues.
But that is where the problem lies - those intent on skewing information
I use Flickr as an example, but is it not the firwst time that I have
come
across this type of behaviour.
And so, tiny cliques and coteries flourish like fiefdoms in the blind
spots
of the mechanisms created to ensure that we all strive for the same
principes. What is worse, there are big
A case in point, the other day I was looking for images of mosquitos
sucking blood and and came across blatant pornography on Flickr. I added
a
few lines about pornography on Flickr and because it was reverted
Rui Correia.
The Flickr images you linked to, if it was you, were the sort one
It is this that is tarnishing the name of the Wikipedia and
driving away good editors.
Rui Correia.
When the going gets tough the tough get going. They don't throw their
hands up, vainly protest, then give up.
Possible conflict of interest is a legitimate concern; however, it is not
a
On 07/23/2013 02:03 PM, Todd Allen wrote:
I
don't think such a proposal would be hopeless on en.
How did dewiki circumvent the difficulties regarding attribution and
role accounts? Last I checked, our terms of use prohibit password
sharing, and IIRC Mike Godwin (legal counsel at the time)
Thanks Andreas
Iit didn't cross my mind that you would actually go and check - at the
time
the search terms were in Portuguese, so you will probably find different
results - If I find the original pic I will send it to you.
But more importantly, the porn on Flickr is a secondary issue -
If you post a creative work on a website the purpose which is to share
files you have assumed the rights of the owner, one of which is to
determine the conditions which must be met to view or listen to the
work.
The owner can give his work away to the world but not third parties.
Fred
I don't get it. I was able to use a Wikipedia link to find a place to
download The Searchers, a John Ford film starring John Wayne in about 30
seconds. How is that not theft that we are facilitating?
Fred
Hi there,
two months after the smoking cannabis controversy, the Russian
Wikipedia is
On 07/09/2013 08:37 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
How is that not theft that we are facilitating?
Because theft, is to deprive, temporarily or absolutely, the owner of
it, or a person who has a special property or interest in it, of the
thing or of his property or interest in it.
In some
On 9 July 2013 23:46, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
Well, not wanting to wade into that pirates' little helpers
snarkiness,
but it takes 30 seconds from anywhere on the web to find a copyright
violation. Maybe a bit longer if you have a slow connection.
Risker
True
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
On 07/09/2013 08:37 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
How
Rick Falkvinge has been writing a book, Swarmwise, on how the Pirate
Party organised. He's been posting it a chapter at a time to his blog.
You know how Wikipedia/Wikimedia has (or had) the meme that voting is
evil? This sets out why.
or ever used
or how is another matter.
Fred
Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder (fredb...@fairpoint.net) het
volgende:
The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where
they
land on British shores
would be of interest to an intelligence agencies focused on
actual threats.
Fred
Where is that question in this topic?
Huib
Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder (fredb...@fairpoint.net) het
volgende:
Can you please stop spamming Us With topics like this? Its not
Wikimedia
related
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Mabbett
a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
PRISM
From @ShammaBoyarin on Twitter: Its not as if the NSA were mass
downloading articles from JSTOR.
Certainly if the evidence showed that the NSA were breaking into wiring
closets and hacking into computer
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Fred Bauder
fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote:
(Yes, you can speculate that they're probably doing this too, but
this
particular scandal is the NSA getting information from computer
networks
with the permission of the computer owners, not despite the owners
The reporting in the UK is that it is aimed at 'foreigners'. I think that
is us! Of course that may be for domestic US consumption.
Yes, the thing is, we are an international organization, and, frankly, we
don't vet people politically before they can create an account or edit.
Our trust system
Fred Bauder, 12/06/2013 22:47:
We hack network backbones  like huge internet routers, basically Â
that
give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of
computers without having to hack every single one,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/edward-snowden-us
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