Gerard, I disagree. I love reading all the nonsense as well as all the
thoughtful articles. And sometimes it's the nonsense that triggers me to
clean it up and learn something. If there is one thing I have learned in my
time in the Wikiverse, it's that there are lots unexpected gems of
information
Well Ed, as one text junkie to another, I liked Gerard's use of that
term, because it shows how text oriented we have become, while the world
around us tries to live by information bytes wrapped into audio and visual
effects. Yes we need more text junkies, but the text junkies we already
have need
Hoi,
I think I understand how much time is wasted replicating the same thing
over and over again. When we know specific facts for instance an old
president of the Sierra Leone dies, all articles about him have to change.
When new demographics of Almere become known, all articles are to change.
I like this idea a lot. If mediawiki and toolchain would additionally
support paragraphs as primary unit it would allow to activate translated
paragraphs. This might as well facilitate book creation, links to Wikidata
etc. The granularity of articles is differing between languages I.e. What
would
Gerard,
We need many more text junkies, also known as article writers. Don't
denigrate them.
Best,
--Ed
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
I think I understand how much time is wasted replicating the same thing
over and over again. When we
Hoi,
I don't but there is a place for them and it is not in endless drudgery
that is best done in other ways. We need text junkies who love their
language, who can explain things and make them understood as expected of an
encyclopaedia. We do not need endless wikitext we need text. We do not need
What we need to figure out is how to allow translation of articles
through micro contributions via cellphones.
Maybe send out sentences one by one for translation from one language
to another. Just start with the leads of articles that are deemed to
be of good quality. Than when the lead is all
On Jun 22, 2015 2:59 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
What I absolutely *love* in this piece is that it's by our own GLAM-Wiki
podcast host Andrew Lih and it's in the New York f***ing Times! Yay!
Truer words were rarely writ.
Andrew, mad props to you.
Hoi,
Magnus pointed the way forward when he started MediaWiki. When you look
into the whole stack of his data related tools, you will find how they make
aggregating data a whole lot easier and worthwhile. He demonstrated how
people on a mobile can be asked to help with simple tasks it works well
Gerard, I think you may be missing the point of the NYT op-ed. The issue
isn't data, it's people who will use that data (whether it comes from
structured data sets like Wikidata, or from dead-tree or electronic media)
to create articles, curate them, maintain them, keep the various wikipedias
a good and thoughtful piece. Obviously, we could discuss minor
generalizations, or not 100% grounded intuitions, but the general picture
is interesting and useful for the movement. Congrats!
best,
dj
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 8:47 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
This op-ed by
What I absolutely *love* in this piece is that it's by our own GLAM-Wiki
podcast host Andrew Lih and it's in the New York f***ing Times! Yay!
Plus I totally agree with his lead point, which holds for all languages: One
of the biggest threats it faces is the rise of smartphones as the dominant
Hoi,
What I absolutely hate in this piece is something that has been obvious for
so long: ... , or to groups devoted to non-English languages?. It is the
lack of attention and funding that has discriminated against other
languages. The attitude of when it works for the big Wikipedias, it will
work
jane...@gmail.com
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What I absolutely *love
Hi.
This op-ed by Andrew Lih appeared in today's New York Times. I'm sending
it here in case anyone is interested in reading or discussing it. I
enjoyed the piece; congrats to Mr. Lih on getting this published!
MZMcBride
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/can-wikipedia-survive.html
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