Hi SJ,
thanks. The document is here
https://ru.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F
the table at the bottom, and a short English summary at the very bottom,
but the table is still in Rus
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
> [...] On the Russian Wikivoyage, all of our active partipants produced
> a document, to be told by the facilitator that this is not what WMF wants
> to see.
>
This does not strike me as a description of what a facilitator should have
been
Yaroslav: thanks for these thoughts. Could you link to the RU Voyage
document? How was it different from what a facilitator expected?
Let's see if we can all make a better central discussion space, and make
brainstorming by individual-contributors more satisfying & w/fast feedback
loops from one
Hi Tomasz,
may be the Polish Wikipedia is an exception, I do not know. I have the
strategy discussions on the English Wikipedia, Wikidata, Meta, and Russian
Wikivoyage on my watchlists, and I posted on all of them. On the first
three I do not see any discussion happening (and on Wikidata, Szymon e
2017-04-08 12:44 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter :
> Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling.
> May be we will have another opportunity.
>
> However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a
> failure.
>
>
Why? On at least several languages and proje
Yaroslav,
What did you wish to see in the Track B discussions that was absent thus
far? Have you read the strategy portal? Specifically the process page and
the audit of past processes?
To doom a process from its beginning stages to failure on an unknown reason
is, at least, extremely hasty. Pleas
Thanks Jane. No, 15 April 15 is the Easter, I will be hopefully travelling.
May be we will have another opportunity.
However, I still believe that Track 2 has been so far essentially a failure.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Jane Darnell wrote:
> I agree with everything Gnang
I agree with everything Gnangarra said. As I recall, previous strategy
discussions on meta involved fewer people later in the game with fewer
documents produced than what we have now. That said, I think there was a
pretty good representation of chapters at the Berlin conference and
depending on you
I was in Berlin and participated in the strategy track for the three days.
The process was very open used open space approach such that at the end of
days 1 & 2 all I could say is that its been an interesting and thought
provoking sessions because that was how the process was running. At the
end o
Hi Guillaume,
the conference of course does not exclude individual participants per se,
nor did I ever imply it was in any way planned. However, we saw that the
previous Strategy discussion was kept in a dedicated place (the strategy
wiki), which attracted everybody who wanted to participate, and
Hello Yaroslav,
I'm not sure I understand how including affiliates excludes individual
contributors. There are many avenues for people and groups across the
movement to participate on wikis, in person, in video conference, in
off-wiki online discussions, etc. Anyone is welcome to contribute in
mul
The backside seems to be that those who have been to the conference feel no
incentive to participate in the strategy discussions in the projects, and
these discussions show up as major disappointment (like those on the
English Wikipedia or Wikidata) or do not really interest anybody (at the
Russian
Just to add to this as someone who (also) was at the conference and
participated in a few of the strategy track sessions, it would have been
basically impossible to provide any more information than the conference
website already provides about what took place at this session beforehand,
given the
Hello Hajdu,
As Chris mentioned, there is a lot of documentation coming from the
Wikimedia conference in Berlin. In fact, there is so much
documentation that it's going to take the team a few days to digitize
and publish everything. You can see some of the notes from related
discussions, for examp
Hi Texaner,
I don't think everything that WMCON is meant to be a secret! I expect/hope
that we'll be hearing more about the WMCON strategy discussions quite soon
- after all, WMF is being very proactive about communicating what's going
on with the strategy.
I can imagine that it takes a little w
Hi, There is a very active campaign for strategic conversation defining
the future role of Wikimedia in the world. In the last weekend has been
hold the Wikimedia Conference 2017
in Berlin. On this conference was a spacial group organized from
Representatives
for the Movement Strategy Track
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