Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-08-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that it is pathetically easy to opt out of the MultimediaViewer, the amount of vitriol spouted by some is way out of proportion to the problem. If you do not want it, opt out. But thermonuclear was was threatened, people were to lose their job over this. No the excuses are too little an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-08-25 Thread Pine W
The issue is not just that individual users may want to opt out, it's whether it should be activated by default for readers. There is also the matter of licensing information. I'm not aware of where "thermonuclear was was threatened". There were, and continues to be, discussion about forking. MV i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-25 Thread Russavia
Mike et al On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > I've swapped it for a CC-licensed file that does allow for commercial > reuse. Problem solved? > GFDL is a free licence. You can licence under the free GFDL licence and also licence it under an -NC licence. So long as one licence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-08-25 Thread svetlana
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, at 13:19, Pine W wrote: > I have heard very few people say "don't ever change the interface." I have > heard people say "don't force an interface change on me that I don't think > is an improvement." > > VE was a good example. The sentiment of the community wasn't that VE''s >

[Wikimedia-l] Tracking bugs in the open (was Re: Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes...)

2014-08-25 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, On Monday, August 25, 2014, svetlana wrote: > > A first step here, I believe, is have the Teams track bugs in the open; > from my own experience, the Flow and Multimedia folks track bugs somewhere > else where I can't even view or comment (and even if I could, it being > different from Bugzi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wrong attribution in PDF output of Wikipedia atricles

2014-08-25 Thread Jeevan Jose
I tried to make the PDF of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6_Twin_Otter It credits "File:WinAir De Havilland Canada DHC-6-300 Twin Otter Breidenstein.jpg Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WinAir_De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-6-300_Twin_Otter_Breidenstein.jpg

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

2014-08-25 Thread Gilles Dubuc
> > from my own experience, the Flow and Multimedia folks track bugs somewhere > else where I can't even view or comment > Bugs and tasks are public for the Multimedia team. If you mean "bugs" in the bastardized sense of the term which is "things filed in bugzilla", then yes, the Multimedia team d

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The reader, who doesn't exist

2014-08-25 Thread Delirium
On 8/25/14, 3:06 AM, MZMcBride wrote: As a metric, pageviews are probably not very meaningful. One way we can observe whether we're fulfilling our mission is to see how ubiquitous our content has become. An even better metric might be the quality of the articles we have. Anecdotal evidence sugges

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-25 Thread Tanweer Morshed
Thanks James for addressing such a crucial issue. It is a vital matter but being discussed far less than other topics, in offline or offline programs, activities. Among measures fore retaining editors, there were some banners that appeared on top of articles viewed by new editors or readers. I've h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-25 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Wikimedia ch is doing a big investment in supporting communities. There are three community liaisons (a third hired recently) to support the three national languages which are also within the biggest linguistic communities. Anyway there is not a unique solution to be adapted easily in user retent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

2014-08-25 Thread David Goodman
Perhaps the best way of doing this is the admittedly laborious method of personally communicating with new editors who seem promising and encouraging them and offering to help them continue. The key word in this is "personally". It cannot be effectively done with wikilove messages , and certainly

[Wikimedia-l] Add a link to "contributors" or "authors" to Wikipedia's byline

2014-08-25 Thread James Heilman
Started a proposal here about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Adding_a_link_to_.22authors.22_in_Wikipedia.27s_by-line And have created a mockup of what it would look like here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure Wondering peoples opinions. -- James He

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Add a link to "contributors" or "authors" to Wikipedia's byline

2014-08-25 Thread MZMcBride
James Heilman wrote: >And have created a mockup of what it would look like here >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_failure This isn't really a mock-up... it's probably best to use test.wikipedia.org or another dedicated test wiki for tests. >Wondering peoples opinions. The mobile team somewhat

[Wikimedia-l] Add a link to "contributors" or "authors" to Wikipedia's byline

2014-08-25 Thread James Heilman
Yes I agree that mobile is a little much. I am just proposing a simple linked word (either author or contributors) in the by-line. It is important to have this information in the by-line rather than to the left as this is where people expect to find the authors / contributors. Not attached to were