Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Anders Wennersten
Milos Rancic skrev den 2015-06-06 21:00: I think also that it's valid idea that EC chooses voting system according to the needs of particular point of time. For example, this time it was about giving opportunity to the new candidates. Next time it could be more balanced. If you notice that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Well, the funny thing with current system is that if people had voted in most rational way - i.e. to maximize the impact of their votes - the results would have been negative for all candidates - as this year none of them got more than 50% of positive votes. But in fact if all people would vote in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the funny thing with current system is that if people had voted in most rational way - i.e. to maximize the impact of their votes - the results would have been negative for all candidates - as this year none of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Congratulations to the winners! However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D El sáb., 6 de jun. de 2015 3:22, Johan Jönsson brevlis...@gmail.com escribió: Congratulations, Dariusz, James and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-06 Thread Pine W
I felt that this year's elections went remarkably smoothly. I believe that we have the Elections Committee and its tireless leader Varnet, project manager James Alexander, and the SecurePoll devs to thank. There were a few technical issues but overall I feel that everyone did a very fine job.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread Anders Wennersten
David Cuenca Tudela skrev den 2015-06-06 09:01: However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D Why hilarious? We had a full consensus in the election Committee to go for S/N/O voting, it is a

[Wikimedia-l] Quality for Wikidata

2015-06-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When we are to assess the quality of Wikidata, there are a few criteria we need to assess. - accuracy - bias - timeliness - completeness Arguably Wikidata needs to improve a lot on all four points.Whatever approach we take all four criteria are essential. Making Wikidata more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
many thanks! I extend my warm congratulations to Denny and James, and would like to sincerely thank SJ, Maria, and Phoebe, and hope to be able to draw on their tremendous experience and knowledge. best, dj On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Keating
Congratulations to the new Board members - I am sure you will do a great job. And commiserations to those who will be leaving the Board - thank you for all your hard work over many years. Also it is good to see a much higher turnout in this year's elections than in 2013 - well done to those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 11, Issue 21 -- 27 May 2015

2015-06-06 Thread David Parreño Mont - Comunicació
Hi, Just for your information, the last issue of The Signpost has been quoted in an article in *El Periódico* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Periódico_de_Catalunya about gender gap ;) http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/mujeres-wikipedia-4249746 David Parreño Mont Communications

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi Jane, Thanks for trying ContentTranslation and providing feedback. Replies inline. I decided to translate a short article from Spanish to English Currently the extension is configured for translation *from* English, but not *to* English. This will probably be changed soon to allow

[Wikimedia-l] Board diversity

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[ Split from Results of 2015 WMF Board elections‏ ] 2015-06-06 13:19 GMT+03:00 Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com: 2) There is nothing in the process to produce any diversity in the result. Indeed. I don't see much active effort to encourage diversity in gender, professional skills,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

2015-06-06 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 6 jun. 2015, at 17:25, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, just in case you have missed this thread in Wikimedia where I mentioned you, and now SJ asks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Sam Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu mailto:sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu Date: Sat, Jun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Again, the same problem with the infobox and lead image, but there was a gallery that popped over and I was quite pleased with that. I'm glad to hear, thank you :) I published the article with no categories, because the categories didn't line up this time as they did in the Spanish-Dutch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Craig Franklin
I think this is dancing around the perceived problem. You can either have open, democratic, and fair elections with a result that represents the will of the electorate, or you can have a group of people who are diverse in terms of nationality, gender, ethnicity, etcetera. Not both. And I don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread MF-Warburg
I still think it was a big mistake (of the electcom? I don't remember, but /someone/ pushed it through without discussions) in the 2013 election to abolish the Schulze method. Am 06.06.2015 19:16 schrieb Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Moving this discussion into a separate thread, to leave the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Anders Wennersten
The result could also be interpreted as a thundering success for the voting method being used. We have now the last year and two seen major improvement in professionalism in WMF (thanks Lila) and the chapters and their boards (thanks local ECs and boards, FDC members, Katy and Winnifred).

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 11, Issue 22 -- 03 June 2015

2015-06-06 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Three new community-elected trustees announced, incumbents out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-03/News_and_notes Blog: How Wikipedia covered Caitlyn Jenner’s transition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-03/Blog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 06.06.2015 20:30, Risker wrote: I find it interesting that nobody seems all that worried about the FDC election (where 5 of 11 candidates got seats) or the FDC Ombud election (where both candidates came forward in the last 24 hours before nominations closed). These two elections suggest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Pine W
I'm happy with S/N/O and with the election winners, but concerned about the diversity of the Board. I wonder if rethinking the entire board structure is in order, for example we could have: 1. One seat per continent, elected by the whole voting community 2. Two affiliate seats chosen by all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: The result could also be interpreted as a thundering success for the voting method being used. Just to be clear: I think you (Election committee) did very good job. Inside of the stable circumstances, like they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Keating
I basically agree with the whole of Risker's post but want to expand in this bit: On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: There are not very many systems, though, that are specifically designed to give multiple winners when one of the conditions is that they *not*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Risker
On 6 June 2015 at 14:58, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy with S/N/O and with the election winners, but concerned about the diversity of the Board. I wonder if rethinking the entire board structure is in order, for example we could have: 1. One seat per continent, elected by the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for your thoughtful answerrs, which are certainly enlightening. I tried it again today, this time to translate an article from English to Dutch. Again, the same problem with the infobox and lead image, but there was a gallery that popped over and I was quite pleased with that. I published

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Ricordisamoa
Negative votes exist for a reason. Or, let's make voters choose between support and support? Il 06/06/2015 19:15, Milos Rancic ha scritto: Moving this discussion into a separate thread, to leave the main one for best wishes and similar :) Before I start talking about the voting system itself,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Voting system (was: Results of 2015 WMF Board elections)

2015-06-06 Thread Risker
The Schulze method that was being used is the one that is specifically intended to give only one winner; probably most people don't know that Schulze also created a separate system that was intended to give multiple winners. It is a very confusing system and many people unintentionally gave