Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Pine W
A number of us are currently discussing this situation on IRC. (: I believe that the immediate concern is being addressed, and we are also discussing ways of improving the deletion process on ENWP. Pine On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:21 PM, carl hansen wrote: > Mitar, > To get a deleted article bac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread carl hansen
Mitar, To get a deleted article back, ask an "Administrator" to move it to your User_page draft space so you can get your text/references . The text is still in the system, just not accessible to public. There should be no problem. You could even ask the Administrator who deleted it, via Talk page

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Ruslan Takayev
Geni stated: "As so many projects have learned so painfully in the last decade the English Wikipedia knows what they are doing." Sorry, but that is not correct and Mitar's case is evidence of this. Here we have an article on a cultural organization in Slovenia, which a cursory glance of Google sh

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! Thanks you for all the responses. It is really great to see this various explanations. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:27 PM, John wrote: > If we do not have checks and balances in place wikipedia will quickly get > overrun with articles on everyone and everything to ever exist regardless > of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Nathan
Experiences described by a new editor are valid and meaningful even if, in relating them, the new editor shows some lack of familiarity with Wikipedia customs and established doctrines. It's certainly true that the process of patrolling pages for quality can be, from the perspective of a newbie wri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread geni
On 25 June 2016 at 13:14, Vi to wrote: > As a deletion I'd say we totally lost at en.wiki, we can maybe tie on other > wikis. > As so many projects have learned so painfully in the last decade the English Wikipedia knows what they are doing. -- geni __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Mitar Gadzooks! The comments you made about friendly editors to a large community of Wikipedia editors, maybe re-think saying that. I'm having a hard time getting past these comments. *I* am a friendly editor, and am actually able to help you. But you have basically said you have too much of a lif

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Thank you Carl. I will make sure to note re: real world identity going forward. That was very helpful. Agree Deletionists seem to be winning -- I've been told a contribution I made was "too encyclopedic" for Wikipedia, among other nonsense. An entry about a woman of course. Sometimes it's very abs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread John
You are overly simplifying things, One can be both, some things just don't merit an article, an obscure band working out of a member's garage who have never had an audience of more than 500 shouldn't have an article because they really are not notable. On the other hand major artist should have art

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! On Twitter I was pointed to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deletionism_and_inclusionism_in_Wikipedia This is amazing. I think John Oliver should make a segment "Wikipedia Deletionism - how is this still a thing?" I mean, is this a failure of Wikipedia community governance? Reading about thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Mitar
Hi! Thank you for your responses. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Brill Lyle wrote: > Please include your user name and the name of the article you were working > on. Without any context it's impossible to help you. Thankfully I was able > to dig and find the page, etc. But include identifying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread Pine W
Thanks James. It would be nice if novice users who prefer VE for content pages didn't need to learn about wikimarkup for talk pages, or had a shallower learning curve. My understanding is that some wiki communities like Flow and others don't. For those that aren't using Flow, are there any improvem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread Johan Jönsson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:17 AM, James Forrester wrote: > All, > > > TL;DR: The Editing Department is working to make the content editing > software better. The big work areas are improving the visual editor and > editing wikitext. We will bring in a wikitext mode inside the visual editor > for s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status update about editing software, June 2016

2016-06-25 Thread James Forrester
On 23 June 2016 at 17:01, Pine W wrote: > 1. Is Flow feature development still frozen? If and when would Flow feature > development resume? > ​Yes, principal development is frozen. Like with all production software, urgent bugs and maintenance are still worked on, and we might add some minor fea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Vi to
As a deletion I'd say we totally lost at en.wiki, we can maybe tie on other wikis. Life is never B/W, grey is everywhere. Vito 2016-06-25 12:18 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for > Wikidata. We can include much more and,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Board appointment of Executive Director

2016-06-25 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Congratulations to Katherine for being an incredible positive force and make a great impression in such a short time as Interim! A well deserved reward :) I have all the confidence that you are able to motivate those around you (and in our community) to perform at their best, work together and b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The English deletionists may be winning. Thank (include your deity) for Wikidata. We can include much more and, we do include much more. It includes more people who won an award that what English Wikipedia does. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/06/wikidata-lan

[Wikimedia-l] Wikidojo at Wikimania tonight at 17:30

2016-06-25 Thread Nikola Kalchev
For all of you who are at Wikimania today: a Wikidojo is coming at 17:30 – 19:30 in room 12 of the school. It is fun, cool, nerdy and everybody loves it! A Wikidojo is a collaborative practice, which consists of a group of Wikipedians with different levels of experience in editing wikis. The group

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread carl hansen
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Brill Lyle wrote: > Hi Mitar, > > ... > > First off: > Please include your user name and the name of the article you were working > on. Without any context it's impossible to help you. Thankfully I was able > to dig and find the page, etc. > Brill Lyle, normally