one more general level solution would be having more steps: proposing a
solution to the community (checking for support), inviting willing testers,
after positive feedback introducing to all logged in users, and after
positive feedback propagating on the site as a whole.
Once the initial support f
Hoi,
I am happy for you that you think the reader experience is so great in the
"devils advocate mode". In reality when I read a Wikipedia article because
I want information all too often I hate what I get. The fact that it is the
best around does not make me like the lack of clarity, the inconsist
The page is already overly long and in places impenetrable, and I speak as
a systems analyst with Agile development experience. A shift to plain
English might be useful and more care to avoid dropping in fringe jargon
like "Wiki markup is not Turing complete".
On 22 Aug 2014 01:39, "svetlana" wrot
Am 22.08.2014 04:18 schrieb "Erik Moeller" :
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Pine W wrote:
> > I am curious to hear your thoughts about the proposed Technology
Committee.
> > That idea has some community support and had been discussed at some
length
> > on the WMF Board Noticeboard.
>
> I th
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Pine W wrote:
> I am curious to hear your thoughts about the proposed Technology Committee.
> That idea has some community support and had been discussed at some length
> on the WMF Board Noticeboard.
I think it has merits if it's mostly used as a dispute resolut
BTW you should all love this idea:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Engagement_%28Product%29/Process_ideas#Get_local_consencus_for_your_changes
svetlana
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, at 12:12, MZMcBride wrote:
> Hi.
>
> The German Wikipedia has evaluated and decided against the default use of
> MediaViewer on its project (preferring opt-in, rather than opt-out). Erik
> has made it his mission to impose MediaViewer on the German Wikipedia
> using Wikimedia
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:29 AM, John Mark Vandenberg
wrote:
>
>
> *But*, that only works on the normal website. On the mobile website,
> I cant figure out how to disable the Media Viewer. To check I wasnt
> missing something, I asked someone at the Wikimedia Indonesia office
> (https://en.wikip
2014-08-21 15:03 GMT+03:00 Andy Mabbett :
> On 21 August 2014 10:31, Strainu wrote:
>> and significantly alter some infoboxes because "it doesn't
>> look good".
>
> I'd not noticed this; can you give examples, please?
It seems this is not the case at en.wp, but take a look at how
infoboxes (and e
I was talking about navboxes, not infoboxes.
On 21 August 2014 19:04, Magnus Manske wrote:
> Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all the
> wikitext you need. This could also help to "abstract" infoboxes to load a
> placeholder/hint on mobile, then loading the box on req
On 21 Aug 2014, at 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 21 August 2014 10:31, Strainu wrote:
>> the mobile
>> website arbitrarily skips some elements visible on desktop, such as
>> navboxes
>
> I've noticed this; and other deficiencies (such as no "did you know"
> on main page, not even as a link t
On 21.08.2014 21:17, Steven Walling wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Magnus Manske
wrote:
Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all
the
wikitext you need. This could also help to "abstract" infoboxes to
load a
placeholder/hint on mobile, then loading the box
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Magnus Manske wrote:
> Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all the
> wikitext you need. This could also help to "abstract" infoboxes to load a
> placeholder/hint on mobile, then loading the box on request (click).
>
> Well, one can drea
Or, have them filled from Wikidata. Then, {{Infobox}} would be all the
wikitext you need. This could also help to "abstract" infoboxes to load a
placeholder/hint on mobile, then loading the box on request (click).
Well, one can dream...
Magnus
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Andy Mabbett
wrot
On 21 August 2014 17:08, Isarra Yos wrote:
> Man, I forgot how over the top some projects get
> with their navigation templates.
Perhaps the answer is to refactor them as separate pages to which
mobile (and even desktop) pages can use a single link?
--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigson
Thank you Richard for bringing this to everyone's attention.
So folks know, WMF Legal and the Affiliations Committee are investigating
and will be reaching out to the group soon.
Thanks!
-greg aka varnent
Wikimedia Affiliations Committee Vice Chair
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Richard Symon
Thanks all!
I have passed this over to WMF legal to deal with as it's a trademark issue.
Richard Symonds
Wikimedia UK
0207 065 0992
Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor,
On 21 August 2014 12:21, James Forrester wrote:
> On 21 August 2014 09:13, Nathan wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard, any links to where you found this information?
> >
>
>
> The ever-excellent OpenCorporates has its entry:
>
> https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mi/71656Y
>
> … leading to the officia
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:21 PM, James Forrester
wrote:
> On 21 August 2014 09:13, Nathan wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard, any links to where you found this information?
> >
>
>
> The ever-excellent OpenCorporates has its entry:
>
> https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mi/71656Y
>
> … leading to th
On 21 August 2014 09:13, Nathan wrote:
> Hi Richard, any links to where you found this information?
>
The ever-excellent OpenCorporates has its entry:
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_mi/71656Y
… leading to the official US state of Michigan's entry:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_co
I would also like that information.
I can confirm that the Affiliations Committee does not have an active (or
past) application from them for affiliation. I am checking if anyone on the
AffCom heard about it from other channels.
-greg aka varnent
Vice Chair, Wikimedia Affiliations Committee
On
Hi Richard, any links to where you found this information?
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Richard Symonds <
richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I note that a new Wikimedia organisation has been setup in Michigan, called
> the "Wikipedia Editors Foundation Inc", as of about
On 21/08/14 13:24, Risker wrote:
On 21 August 2014 09:18, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
For me the conclusion would be not that we should drop them altogether in
the mobile version (most of them are useful navigation means after all) but
that the mobile version should be improved to parse them a
Hi all,
I note that a new Wikimedia organisation has been setup in Michigan, called
the "Wikipedia Editors Foundation Inc", as of about a week or two ago.
It seems (by the filings) to be a nice nonprofit org set up by sensible
people who care about the movement.
That said - is this a new chapter
I find navboxes useful as an editor, and frequently use them to keep track of
the related articles I edit. I would prefer to keep the functionality, but
would not have a problem with it being opt-in.
Cheers,
Peter
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re the birth anomalies, we have been running a process for several years now
that looks for people alive according to certain wikipedias and dead according
to up to 80 others. The format works well and has been broadened to various
other anomalies such as being dead but not born.
https://meta.w
On 21.08.2014 15:24, Risker wrote:
On 21 August 2014 09:18, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On 21.08.2014 14:26, Risker wrote:
On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu wrote:
...
Many of these templates have over 100 links in them; a surprisingly
large
number have "subtemplates" built into them
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Risker wrote:
> On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu wrote:
>
>> 2014-08-21 9:30 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
>> It would *seem* that every user
>> > converted to the mobile site is a step towards extinction of the wiki.
>>
>>
>> That is an excellent point Frederi
On 21 August 2014 09:18, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
> On 21.08.2014 14:26, Risker wrote:
>
>> On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu wrote:
>>
>> ...
>
>>
>> I went to look at some of those same articles using my smartphone with the
>> "desktop" option turned on. Many of them timed out without fully
On 21.08.2014 14:26, Risker wrote:
On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu wrote:
...
I went to look at some of those same articles using my smartphone with
the
"desktop" option turned on. Many of them timed out without fully
loading;
others took several minutes. There was a very, very noticeabl
Editing via the mobile view is made more painful by the use of navboxes, tables
and complex templates of any kind. Even the {{cite}} template can occupy
several lines of the display on a mobile device making it hard to discern the
text. Maybe Wikidata will solve some of this by shifting the cre
On 21 August 2014 05:31, Strainu wrote:
> 2014-08-21 9:30 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
> It would *seem* that every user
> > converted to the mobile site is a step towards extinction of the wiki.
>
>
> That is an excellent point Frederico. In addition to the inherent
> difficulties of editing
Hi all.
I understand the Engineering folks used superprotect instead of /undoing/ the
edit and adding 'This is a WMF action.' in edit summary. Could I please be
enlightened on the reasoning behind that?
I suppose people could go and try editing other JS pages and cause havoc, but
that's still
On 21 August 2014 10:31, Strainu wrote:
> the mobile
> website arbitrarily skips some elements visible on desktop, such as
> navboxes
I've noticed this; and other deficiencies (such as no "did you know"
on main page, not even as a link to a subpage).
> and significantly alter some infoboxes beca
2014-08-21 9:30 GMT+03:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
It would *seem* that every user
> converted to the mobile site is a step towards extinction of the wiki.
That is an excellent point Frederico. In addition to the inherent
difficulties of editing on small screen, especially large articles and
the "w
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