Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Bence Damokos
Even at the scale of the WMF, the costs of offset would not be high. At the scale of individual travellers where a typical trip would cause less than 1 tonne of emissions, and offsets available already at the 1$/tonne price range and below - I would argue that if you or your organisation has the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Pete Forsyth
+1 to Mike's approach. An *option* for carbon offsets seems worthwhile. A *requirement* seems potentially at odds with our desire to be inclusive and accessible. And I agree that something specifically tailored to a community built around making information accessible would be a much better fit.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Mike Peel
I would suggest taking a different approach. Paying for carbon offsets does not further Wikimedia’s goals. It is, at best, a shortcut to brownie points as measured by other organisations. Requiring volunteers to pay extra for carbon offsets is doubly worse as they can’t then spend that money on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Bence Damokos
In case it is interesting, for the tenders at my workplace that require offsetting, we include this requirement: " Carbon offsetting will be achieved by means of projects of the following type: CDM (Clean Development Mechanism), JI (Joint Implementation) or VER (Voluntary Emissions Reduction),

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread
Any general questions like catering for virtual attendees can be raised at the talk page for the 2020 LGBT+ conference.[1] The conference is at the proposal stage with funding yet to be agreed with the WMF. The proposers will be happy to receive feedback and respond to questions. If no previous

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Chris Keating
> > This has nothing to do with how green WMF operations might be. It has > to do with the greener choices /we/ as volunteers can make for /our/ > conferences. > Since a fortnight ago you were haranguing* the WMF for using too much air travel and lacking "any actual measurable commitment to

[Wikimedia-l] Yahoo/AOL warning

2019-10-11 Thread effe iets anders
(I'm not the most technical person, so feel free to correct imprecisions or add better suggestions) It feels like a blast from the past, but it turns out there's still a fair amount of Yahoo/AOL users that are part of our community. Just a fair warning: as has been known for a while now (at least

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread
To clarify, the topic was "planning a conference for next year, we could ask or require participants to factor in payments for carbon offset" This has nothing to do with how green WMF operations might be. It has to do with the greener choices /we/ as volunteers can make for /our/ conferences.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When the WMF wants to "green" itself, the most effective way is to make its software and operations greener. The software will reduce the need for energy, the operations ensure that green energy is used. Reducing the need for energy is an investment that will reduce the overall cost and has

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 6 October 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Vira Motorko
Yay, it's turn for the Ukrainian language in the topic! That's actually the thing that immediately makes me [even more] happy =) This week I have personally more time to serve my community translating relevant information, and this feels good. Besides, any time someone uses 'thank' button to

[Wikimedia-l] Greener travel and the ethics of carbon offset for Wikimedia community events

2019-10-11 Thread
In the discussion about the report from the WMF relating to sustainability, mention was made of the potential use of carbon offset. As part of planning a conference for next year, we could ask or require participants to factor in payments for carbon offset. With no experience in examining carbon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-11 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 08:52, Henry Wood wrote: > So the Ombudsman Commission is managed by a department that they are > likely to want to report on? > No. The Ombudsman Commission oversees volunteer actions only. Complaints about staff should be sent directly to the Wikimedia Foundation. I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

2019-10-11 Thread Henry Wood
> Just noting in passing that, technically, the Ombudsman Commission formally > reports to the WMF Board of Trustees, which has in turn delegated the > ongoing management and responsibility for the commission to the WMF Trust & > Safety Department. So the Ombudsman Commission is managed by a

[Wikimedia-l] Що робить вас щасливими цього тижня? / What’s making you happy this week? (Week of 6 October 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Pine W
Hello, This week's email is late and short, for which I apologize. I have a collection of information to share but I am trying to catch up on a backlog of email and today is already so late in the week that I decided to send a short email. I thank WMF Engineering and Site Reliability Engineering