Yair is right because messages like this "empower" only those who agree with
them. Taking sides in the name of the Foundation, which has the money and
therefore power, is not inclusive.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 01/03/2017, at 12:58 p.m., Yair Rand wrote:
>
> An unscheduled CentralNotice just
Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely helpful"? How does it help the
building and maintainence of Wikimedia projects? How does it help the many
volunteers who work on these projects?
From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of James
Salsman
Sent: Tuesday, March 7,
: Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote:
>
> Equally James, how is this advocacy "extremely helpful"? How does it help the
> building and maintainence of Wikimedia projects? How does it help the m
The current situation (further) demonstrates a huge weakness in the current
system of the governance of local communities. The problems being discussed
here are far from unique to Wikimedia France and can be seen not only in other
affiliates, but also in the long-festering problems of the admini
Assuming of course that a chapter actually follows its bylaws
From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Ilario
Valdelli
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:34:34 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List; James Salsman
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France
The power of
I didnt know him well, just on Facebook and reputation... but whoa! Will put my
condolences up
From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Andy
Mabbett
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:17:09 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Austin Hair is gone
On 1
Not just English Wikipedia. All of the projects are hostile to "outsiders"
Those not in English might even be worse for several reasons
Enviado desde mi LG de Telcel
-- Original message--
From: Robert Fernandez
Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 9:17 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List;
Cc:
Subject:Re: [
I have to agree here. The WMF and its employees have forgotten that the mission
is to support the work done on the various wikis, not make work for fireworks
for themselves.
Nothing we are dealing with here is new. It is just the eruption of some very
long-standing problems with the WMF and the
As per the request on the Reports page on Meta, we hereby announce our very
first annual report as a Wikimedia user group (sorry its late! we lack
hands)
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries/M%C3%A9xico/Tec_de_Monterrey/2015-2016_Wiki_Learning_Tec_de_Monterrey_annual_repor
Congratulations!
I agree this is the way to go with education, as it gets administrative
support. This has been crucial for our program, as it tells teachers that their
school supports what they do. For us, such an organizational effort has given
us access to resources that individual teachers
How do you sign up to be a member of the group?
From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Maor
Malul
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:36:07 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of WikiConference North America
Dear all,
I am pleased to anno
I voiced my opposition to the statement on Facebook but Yair states the case
far more eloquently. Many acts by many countries could be a possible threat to
Wikimedia, where do we draw the line?
Why was there no community discussion prior to the statement?
Sent from my iPhone
> On 02/02/2017, at
The
people who are loudest in their demands for consensus do not represent the
Wikimedia movement.
The voices loudest for the WMF doing something against the Trump administration
are not representative of the Wikimedia movement either... they have been WMF
employees and those closest to them. T
the WMF not listening to voices in
the community but you ignore a large part of that community who
disagrees with you.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote:
> The
> people who are loudest in their demands for consensus do not represent the
> Wikimedia movement.
>
&g
office either.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 7 February 2017 at 15:41, Leigh Thelmadatter
wrote:
> And yet, here is the amicus brief signed by the Wikimedia Foundation,
> along with, not nearly 100 non-profit organizations but Silicon Valley tec
> companies.
>
>
> http://cdn.ca9.usco
Im not sure now is the right time to divide affiliates. Thematic organizations
and user groups are still new and there is still a heavy preference towards
chapters. User groups are not necessarily small, and chapters are not
necessarily large.
I hear what you are saying about resources being st
If we are concerned about Google taking unfair advantage of Wikipedia, one
simple solution is to allow content donations with a non-commercial
restriction. Right now, the concept of "free" include commercial use. An added
bonus to this is that we would get a lot more institutional donations of
Im curious to see how this might affect Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey, as we
are both an education program and an affiliate.
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:19:17 -0800
> From: mc...@wikimedia.org
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community Engagement reorg - the of
I have to disagree. money for WMF employee attendance is still WMF money...
still coming from donations.
I find it very interesting that so much more is spent on employee attendance
then volunteer attendance.
> From: meta...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:06:28 -0500
> To: wikimedia-l@li
As a humanities person myself, I did read into Lila's post that the
non-engineering aspects of Wikimedia would take a back seat... perhaps a far
back seat to all the shiny new things happening in Silicon Valley. This may not
be the case, but if it is, I can understand it as to an engineer, every
Should only the staff have a say in this vision? Almost all, if not all, of
this talk is about what the staff wants.
> From: yastrak...@wikimedia.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 03:45:28 +0300
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to
AHEM it is *NOT* easy to create a user group, especially if a chapter is
against it. Look at how long the Wiki Borregos application has been left in
limbo by Aff Comm and Ive saved some real doozies of emails from several
members of said committee.
Just a small taste... one of the first o
If it is to be limited to certain people, why not just have a pre conference
with Wikimania?
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200
> From: zvand...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015
>
> There is no reason to change the name
For what its worth, I just added another 2 cents over at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference
> From: e...@wikimanialondon.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:58:00 +0100
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015
this is cool, I can easily see that at least some of my articles are being
translated to German!
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 16:33:52 +0200
> From: nemow...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] translation by importing articles
>
> Amir E. Aharoni, 04/10/2014
They are rare because they are not easy to make!
> From: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:40:59 +0100
> To: wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos?
>
> [NB: cross-posted]
>
> I'm in need of a couple of
> From: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:24:26 +0100
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Best promo videos?
>
> On 22 October 2014 13:58, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote:
>
> > They are rare because they are not easy to make!
>
&
I assume this survey is only for organizations that have been recognized by
AffCom? We are still struggling to get ours (despite the fact that we are one
of the most productive educational groups), so I thought Id at least answer the
questionnairre, but under "name of organization" the only opti
OK I see now the box for "other" not as an option for a name (which is how
these things are usually set up) but underneath the original question.
From: osama...@hotmail.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: RE: [Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness tool (for Wikimedia
organizatio
I dont think the issue is the idea of encouraging projects that increase the
participation of women, but rather the message that everything else is getting
shoved aside.
I dont see this as sexism and playing that card is counter-productive.
What I suggest is that instead of saying that for
Congratulations on the official annoucement. I very much look forward to
helping out with the education programming!
Leigh
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:15:38 +0100
> From: q...@wikimedia.org
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikiman
Is there any record for the number of articles/bytes added to Wikipedia from an
edit-a-thon?
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Congratulations!
> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:48:57 +0100
> From: michal.matu...@wikimedia.sk
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] 200 000 articles on Slovak Wikipedia
>
> Dear community,
>
> On February 5th 2015 the Slovak Wikipedia reached 200 000 articles and
> is th
uy! I have 77617. Can I excuse myself by saying that much of that is combined
with my work as a teacher using WP with students?
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:19:24 +0100
> From: ricordisa...@openmailbox.org
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addic
Welcome! Im definitely interested in what you all are doing!
> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:49 -0500
> From: ma...@wikimedia.org.ve
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Community Brazilian Group of
> Education and Research
>
> Dear all,
>
> Th
I agree that any community service type editing would have to be planned and
done carefully as the type of work being done is everything. Obviously adding
content about businesses and television shows would have no community impact,
but documenting cultural topics, marginalized peoples, and the
define "worthy" and
> "unworthy" content.
>
> On 14 April 2015 at 02:28, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote:
>
> > I agree that any community service type editing would have to be planned
> > and done carefully as the type of work being done is everythi
+1
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:51:25 -0400
> From: aleksey.bilo...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections
>
> My two cents: no, no, no, absolutely not, by all means no, never.
>
> I am strongly, strongly, strongly opposed to such
I have already registered, but the fee is steep (1460MXN, ~100 USD), quite
out-of-reach of students and more than a few teachers here in Mexico.
> From: eyo...@wikimedia.org
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 10:15:26 -0700
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org;
> wmf...@
Thank you for sharing this. Wiki Learning could not attend this year as we were
approved too late, but Im glad someone is talking about how to integrate UG's
into the larger picture.
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:30:47 -0700
> From: johnny.ale...@wikimedia.org.ph
> To: wmco...@wikimedia.de
> CC
I would settle for an open process, rather than a secretive AffComm.
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 10:08:22 +0200
> From: nemow...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] simple and effective creation process for chapters
>
> rupert THURNER, 03/05/2014 09:02:
> > re
If this process is indeed really being revamped, may I ask why we give
established chapters such dominance, even to the exclusion of the creation of
less formal groups (user groups). As it stands, a chapter can (and in the case
of Mexico, does) marginalize people and at least one educational ins
I think this speaks to how little is known and how poorly education projects
have been promoted, especially outside the US and Canada. There is even the
assumption on the part of many that this is the purview of chapters.
The Education Program has just convened an Education Cooperative with
rep
lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities
>
> Le 06/05/2014 16:24, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :
> > (...) There is even the assumption on the part of many that this is the
> > purview of chapters.
>
> Why shouldn't it b
Unfortunately, this is not always the case.
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:46:23 +0200
> From: mathias.dam...@laposte.net
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia and Universities
>
> Le 06/05/2014 20:15, Leigh Thelmadatter a écrit :
> >
FWIW, the still caught my eye (uncommon for the media section of the page) and
I read the caption, which does give context.
The main product of Buchenwald and other camps was death. Why do we want to
cover that up? I saw nothing wrong with it, just as there was nothing wrong
with all the photo
Its a very bold move on your part Will and it will be interesting how this
develops over time. I dont participate at Wikipediocracy but I lurk regularly.
Perhaps because I have some long-standing issues that no one addresses and its
useful to know others have problems too.
> From: w...@wllm.com
Ive been watching this conversation and I have to agree with Will here. These
calls for banning/restriction of access to the list and admission that
Wikipedia is full of "landmines" is troubling. If we have such grave problems,
we should be confronting them. If Will is just stirring the pot, ig
I think this is a good idea, but Im interested in knowing if AffComm intends to
have a more responsive way to address petitions for affiliation. There are a
number of applications stuck in limbo with no indication of how and when they
will be resolved.
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 08:36:09 -0400
Ok! I have a training session with Tec de Monterrey students doing community
service on Sat. This will be part of their introduction!
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 01:24:33 -0700
> From: l...@wikimedia.org
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Edit #1 and Challenge #1
>
> I w
One has to keep in mind, that we encourage groups to contact us as early
in their group creation phase as possible, which means that the process'
time will include time spent by the applying group on figuring out who they
are and what they want to do.That has not been our (Wiki Borregos) experience
We have been doing all of that including the board members for a year now. This
is the first bit of information Ive had from you in months. This seems to work
a lot faster.
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:28:49 -0400
> From: gregory.var...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject
> communication between us has been read by them. I don't think is
> necessary to send two copies of the same e-mail to the same people :-)
>
> M.
>
> El 29/05/2014 10:31 p.m., Leigh Thelmadatter escribió:
> > We have been doing all of that including the board memb
it might seem like a good idea, and even though it might
> actually be a good idea in a very small minority of cases.)
>
> Best regards,
> Bence
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter
> wrote:
>
> > OK so then why no action, no communication unt
Compare the process of forming a Meetup group. There are basic
standards of behavior and usage -- applied via review after the fact,
soft-security style -- and measures of activity. But as soon as you
finish filling out a form describing your group, it has been created +
is visible online + has its
Borregos means "rams" the mascot of the Tec de Monterrey.
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 16:17:49 -0400
> From: nawr...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement affiliates liaisons
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:06 PM,
> Obviously, having more user groups would be great, but we do not currently
> know how many are not being created due to the process.
> It is entirely possible, that the creation of active user groups (without
> further investments and interventions into seeding communities) is
> currently maxed o
I am very happy to see the discussion of user groups and the concern about
their lack of formation. Hopefully, the process can be amended to fit better
to what was originally envisioned.
From: slapo...@wikimedia.org
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:49:53 +0200
To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.
I am, at this moment, trying to give a workshop on Wikipedia to professors and
they are having their own user pages being speedily deleted by Tarawa1943
and Taichi We have sent polite messages to them and bibliotecarios (admins)
but the deletions continue. Suggestions
es.wiki creating user pages
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200
> From: nemow...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors
>
> Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15:
> > What project(s) are you working on?
>
> Bibliotecarios =
Felicidades!!!
> From: gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 01:35:15 +0200
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel
> received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR
>
> Hoi,
> Congratu
p?
>
>
> 2014-07-04 0:20 GMT-04:30 Pine W :
>
> > Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
This is one of the best ideas Ive read on here!
> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:00:28 -0600
> From: jmh...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; eloque...@gmail.com;
> fschulenb...@wikimedia.org; ladsgr...@gmail.com; jorlow...@gmail.com;
> madman.enw...@gmail.com; west.andre...@gmail.com
find better ways to access wikipedia dumps,
> better access to recent changes, permission to automatically report back
> issues, nitification of contributors and admins. all in a kind of
> standardized way (i.e. well defined interface), and most important, usable
> by everybody, for fre
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