Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-28 Thread Olaniyan Olushola
in term of taking decision. 13. Proactive Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Comet styles Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:55 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread David Goodman
. > 13. Proactive > > Olaniyan Olushola > Team Lead, WUGN > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > Original Message > From: Comet styles > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:55 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread Olaniyan Olushola
of taking decision. 13. Proactive Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Comet styles Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:55 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread Anthony Cole
Balázs Viczián, regarding "First as interim (as a 'probation period') then if the staff feedback meets the pre-agreed satisfaction level on agreed key areas, as permanent." Well, staff feedback and after independent, critical assessment from each board member. Earlier in this thread, I think,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread Olaniyan Olushola
in term of taking decision. 13. Proactive ‎ Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, WUGN ‎ Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Comet styles Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 3:55 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-27 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi all, reading all the above, my 2 cents would be: Internal promotion (in a broader sense: a current or ex-employee or someone 'close and experienced enough'). First as interim (as a 'probation period') then if the staff feedback meets the pre-agreed satisfaction level on agreed key areas, as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread George Herbert
On the Vision thing - There is a leadership vision, and an organizational/movement vision. The leader should articulate theirs. The organizational one needs to come from everyone but would likely be articulated by the ED after that process. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Feb

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Comet styles
What kind of ED would you like to see? * Someone who knows how the wiki works or atleast has basic knowledge on how to "edit" wikis. * Someone who wants to work on "building" the encyclopaedia, not the bureaucratic side which our last ED was more focused on. * Someone willing to work on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Dan Garry
On 26 February 2016 at 16:57, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote: > Should only the staff have a say in this vision? Almost all, if not all, > of this talk is about what the staff wants. > You are correct that non-staff should have a say in the vision, of course. It affects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Greg, agree 100%, but that's not how I understood the question and the > results of the staff survey. It seemed the staff expected the vision from > the ED/Management. I think you're misinterpreting. The agree/disagree statement was: "Senior leadership at Wikimedia have communicated a vision

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
Should only the staff have a say in this vision? Almost all, if not all, of this talk is about what the staff wants. > From: yastrak...@wikimedia.org > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 03:45:28 +0300 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED wo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Greg, agree 100%, but that's not how I understood the question and the results of the staff survey. It seemed the staff expected the vision from the ED/Management. On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > Subbu, one of the chief complains I heard about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Subbu, one of the chief complains I heard about Lila was that she did not > provide a clear vision. Yet, if we choose stewardship over leadership, > that, at least in my mind, implies more of a mediator than a leader, > without providing any clear vision themselves. So is vision no longer a >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Subbu, one of the chief complains I heard about Lila was that she did not provide a clear vision. Yet, if we choose stewardship over leadership, that, at least in my mind, implies more of a mediator than a leader, without providing any clear vision themselves. So is vision no longer a requirement

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Subramanya Sastry
On 02/26/2016 05:39 PM, Lodewijk wrote: I would suggest you discuss what kind of qualities you seek in an ED, Having more of an attitude stewardship over leadership .. i.e. this is not a place or space to primarily fulfil personal ambitions. Subbu.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 2016-02-26 6:39 PM, Lodewijk wrote: I would suggest you discuss what kind of qualities you seek in an ED, what kind of person you would be looking for - rather than specific people. Above all, and foremost amongst any quality an ED should have is to be an *excellent* communicator. I see

[Wikimedia-l] What kind of ED would you like to see?

2016-02-26 Thread Lodewijk
(changing the topic, to avoid doing myself what I criticise) I would suggest you discuss what kind of qualities you seek in an ED, what kind of person you would be looking for - rather than specific people. That would actually be an interesting and valuable discussion to have in public, I'd think.