Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-30 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/12/2013 04:18 AM, Eddy Paine wrote: > Dan, A placeholder for people without pictures shouldn't be a > problem. Thats common use. And they are all the same so thats a OK > thing. The picture of Rory is a picture of Rory. It even says its a > mascot and I agree with Erik we need Tux for Enginee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-19 Thread Matthew Roth
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM, L. Tuxwell Anonanon wrote: > > Roary, please know that I was not distressed by any of the earlier > comments in this thread. I see a vanguard of my relatives already > quietly oversee the Wikimedia offices. We are a sociable clan,[1] > and accept your proffered p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-18 Thread L. Tuxwell Anonanon
Roary, please know that I was not distressed by any of the earlier comments in this thread. I see a vanguard of my relatives already quietly oversee the Wikimedia offices. We are a sociable clan,[1] and accept your proffered paw of peace. We find felines make fine company, with your flexible

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Franklin
Did she get permission to use the trademark in that way by WMF legal? :-) On 17/07/2013 1:41 AM, "Steffen Prößdorf" wrote: > Hi there, > > 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we > > are in the process of cre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > > > > (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and > > loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate > > should matters escalate quickly.) > > > Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-16 Thread Steffen Prößdorf
Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown > Hello Everyone, > > As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we > are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos > for the Wikimedia Foundation Absolutely, more consistency is important. I think everyo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 July 2013 21:41, Matthew Roth wrote: > I find this to be a terribly sexy proposition. I would urge geni to become > the new manager for equipment approvals. geni is a Commons admin. Nitpickers so formidable that Counsel has expressed his admiration for their l33t nitpicking. You will have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 July 2013 00:06, Richard Symonds wrote: > I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind > them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all > crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have > the same feel or the page j

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Keating
> > (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and > loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate > should matters escalate quickly.) Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mistake. A penguin would have no understanding of the Wikimedia cultu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Matthew Roth
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:47 AM, geni wrote: > On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles wrote: > > > Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of > > this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a > > photo of another man is fine), expect for the r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Oliver Keyes
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread John Andersson
member of Wikimedia Sweden! > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:47:08 +0100 > From: geni...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images > > On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles wrote: > > > Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting somethi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Melanie Brown
Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation staff page, while allowing the people who work here to be seen in a way that feels comfortable to them as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Erik Moeller, 15/07/2013 10:34: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Scary. I think a copy of a recent statement on gun violence would also come handy.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Chris Keating wrote: > Maybe that's an idea - I am just imagining Brandon in firefighter uniform, > James Forrester in the uniform of a Beefeater guarding the Tower of London, > and the whole of Legal in Special Forces cammo led by Geoff carrying a > pearl-handled

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Keating
Uniform portraits? Maybe that's an idea - I am just imagining Brandon in firefighter uniform, James Forrester in the uniform of a Beefeater guarding the Tower of London, and the whole of Legal in Special Forces cammo led by Geoff carrying a pearl-handled Colt and chomping on a cigar. Make it so!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Richard Symonds
I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have the same feel or the page just feels off... At the moment it does look a bit odd f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Victor Grigas
This is all a style/composition question - Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not? On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni wrote: > On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles wrote: > >> Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of >> this discussio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread geni
On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles wrote: > Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of > this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a > photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. > --Teles > > > [1] - https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles wrote: > Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of > this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a > photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers. > --Teles > > I guess it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Peter Southwood
Small teacup - big storm Totally inoffensive. Peter - Original Message - From: "Lucas Teles" To: "Lista da Wikimedia" Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:44 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-13 Thread Katie Chan
On 14/07/2013 02:59, K. Peachey wrote: The issue at the 26 odd email chain is that the staff member should be the main focus of their staff photo? That doesn't seem unreasonable… They are not required to have a photo at all, never mind requiring that their face be the focus of said photo. --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-13 Thread K. Peachey
The issue at the 26 odd email chain is that the staff member should be the main focus of their staff photo? That doesn't seem unreasonable… On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Lucas Teles wrote: > Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of > this discussion. It seems

[Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-13 Thread Lucas Teles
/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:16:49 +0100 > From: chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images > > > > > I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my > > i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-13 Thread Chris Keating
> > I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check my > inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread. I'd like someone to clarify if this thread has been approved by LaffCom? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good > Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true > that his message could be misinterpreted. > > I think we should all take a step back and try ou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread phoebe ayers
And what happened to 'assume good flavor'... I mean faith! Assume Good Faith! I am sure that Rory has only the best intentions. But it is true that his message could be misinterpreted. I think we should all take a step back and try our very best not to eat each other. I'm sure that if they don't m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Michael Snow
On 7/12/2013 3:22 PM, Rory wrote: I am really hungry now. (I’m not allowed to eat legal interns anymore.[4]) Tux, let’s get together soon, real soon, maybe over lunch. Rory, if you're that desperate, may I suggest you scrounge around in your slippers? I'm sure you could find some tasty crumbs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
Stripes. Yeah, right. Clearly, Rory is wearing tats of their own. Totally covered in 'em! I'm calling foul. "Delicious, organic friends"... I wanna see a photo of Tux to verify life. Something's not right here. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Rory wrote: > First, I want to make clear that I e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Rory
First, I want to make clear that I express no opinion on the ink conversation. I respect the diverse points of views in our community. I understand that everyone has their own stripes. That said, I am deeply saddened and frankly shocked by allegations voiced by certain people in this thread that s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Ivan Martínez
It is the twenty-first century and people like me have tattooed the logo of Wikipedia in the arm. It's considered wrong for conservatives too? 2013/7/12 Oliver Keyes > On 12 July 2013 14:01, Michel Castelo Branco > wrote: > > > There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/12/2013 07:10 AM, Eddy Paine wrote: > Secondly we are a world wide organisation, and there are still enough > countries where tats are not accepted yet. Then surely, we must err on the side of conservatism! Let's make certain that every woman on staff has a picture in a burka. -- Marc _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 12 July 2013 14:01, Michel Castelo Branco wrote: > There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head are not > accepted yet. I think the staff should complaint only about what is > accepted where they are (so they wont be arrested). > > Tattoos fine, leaking PRISM details bad.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Michel Castelo Branco
There are countries where women showing her shoulders or nude head are not accepted yet. I think the staff should complaint only about what is accepted where they are (so they wont be arrested). Castelo Branco Em 12/07/2013, às 08:10, Eddy Paine escreveu: Hi, I didn't say that people with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread FastLizard4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Replies inline with quoted message(s)] On 7/12/2013 4:10 AM PDT, Eddy Paine wrote: > ...and there are still enough countries where tats are not accepted yet. So > it can be wise to try to minimise the things on pictures that can be > offensive for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Huib Laurens
Its more like making a statement on your official homepage. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. > However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on > pretty much everything, taboo or no ta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
Sure; there are countries with taboos around, for example, tattoos. However, given that we run many encyclopaedias containing articles on pretty much everything, taboo or no taboo (including ink!), anyone easily offended is /going/ to be. There's a saying about horses and doors that applies here.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
Hi, I didn't say that people with thats are not proffesionals. I have multiple myself also. I am saying that the page has a lay-out with pictures that all fit together and are specially made for that page. I believe you shouldn't destroy the lay-out or style by adding "personal" pictures. Othe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Oliver Keyes
; > fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. > > Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or > > kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. > > Ed > > > From: swatjes...@gmail.com > > > Date: Fri, 12

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Craig Franklin
; From: swatjes...@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images > > > > I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more > > unprofessional than &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Strainu
2013/7/12 Thehelpfulone : > On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal >> mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any >> kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will >> eat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 12 July 2013 09:11, Erik Moeller wrote: > The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal > mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any > kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory will > eat him. > If you're going to add a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 July 2013 09:02, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Really, aren't there better things to do than play morality police because > someone "might" be upset about some ink? This isn't the 1950's. Who is > upset, and why? DFTT. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Jon Davies
fessional photographer? Or > > kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. > > Ed > > > From: swatjes...@gmail.com > > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 > > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Dan Rosenthal
> fact that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. > Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or > kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. > Ed > > From: swatjes...@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -040

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Christophe Henner
way is provocating the fact > that he has tattoo's and not proffesional. > Secondly all staff pictures are made by a professional photographer? Or kind > of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. > Ed >> From: swatjes...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
de by a professional photographer? Or kind of in the same setting. That will keep the page uniform also. Ed > From: swatjes...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:02:56 -0400 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images > > I don't see any problem w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Dan Rosenthal wrote: > Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"? The real issue here is that the Legal Department has a stuffed animal mascot, while WMF engineering/product has absolutely no animals of any kind. I would put up a photograph of Tux, but I'm worried Rory w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I don't see any problem with it. I'm not sure how it is somehow more unprofessional than "absentee" (for lack of a better term) pictures being labeled "Cloak of invisibility?" Or the picture of Rory as "mascot"? Further, what does "all but neutral" mean? Really, aren't there better things to do t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Hydriz Scholz
Hi, a few things... On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Eddy Paine wrote: > Hi, > While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff > can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct > place to post this. > There are volunteers that can also edit the W

[Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-12 Thread Eddy Paine
Hi, While its maybe not something for the whole community. Since only Staff can edit Wikimedia Foundation website I believe this will be the correct place to post this. I feel that the staff images on the Foundation site should show the staff in a good way where nobody can have a problem with