Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

I've run into one or two people on OTRS that were reusing the materials in good faith, but that got a letter from such a photographer that wanted to see money (and that is just spillover from Germany to the Netherlands). Examples linked in the discussion include this warning and bill

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

case 1: daniel pugge has a single person enterprise, and a blog. out of wordpress he linked to the "juice plus" wikipedia article with marco almbauers picture on it. the wordpress preview showing the thumbnail of the linked article. marco then used the services of kurt kulac, former president of wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?

Pine, On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:45 PM, you wrote: > [...] > > The way that you phrase your questions sometimes comes across to me as > having an edge than is more confrontational than I think is necessary, and > I am finding the tone to be a distraction from what is, I think, our mutual > goal of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

In reality: "Account creation from IP addresses in the range 105.172.0.0/16, which includes your IP address (105.172.25.219), has been blocked by Steinsplitter. " That was the message most of them do not have a way to enter in the website that you requested, by the lack of mobile data... On 3

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 3:46 AM, George William Herbert < george.herb...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that the idea of taking the weekend off from the topic is > excellent. We may not have reached universal consensus yet but everything > we needed to have said was, and it's been acknowledged as rec

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

I cannot locate the original block in question but https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A105.172.16.0%2F20 is now affecting the IP in question and it does look related to the copyright violation issue previously brought up in this thread. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

This has been discussed multiple times on Wikimedia Commons and dewp, thus i see no need to discuss it here again. The RFC on dewp [1] to ban such photos from being used failed, which speaks for itself. --Steinsplitter [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/keine_Bilder_in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Hoi, this is neither Commons nor German Wikipedia We know that each subset of the Wikimedia Community may have its own arguments and its own consensus. By allowing for such a discussion new arguments may arise. That is useful. Thanks, GerardM On 5 March 2017 at 13:33, Steinsplitter Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Thanks for the specific examples. I'm not a German speaker, and I know context and nuance can be lost in machine translation. That being said, the one about someone who was offering attribution and then got slapped with a bill for a simple technical error is very disturbing. Especially since as br

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Am looking into options. Am going to be discussing things with a lawyer. Might be good to have a number of Wikipedians involved and will ask him. James On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > James, that's very helpful and I see at least one book on that list that > violates

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Hi, I have a personal experience which is worth considering. One of my picture uploaded on Commons under CC-BY-SA was used without attribution by a political party on their website and 2 of their leaflets (printed to more than 10,000 copies each). I contacted them, and they immediately acknowledge

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Yann Did you ask for, or receive, any help from the WMF? If so, was it effective? If not, do you think you should have done? "Rogol" On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Yann Forget wrote: > Hi, > > I have a personal experience which is worth considering. > One of my picture uploaded on Commons u

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?

Hi Rogol, Sure, I'd be glad to talk with you about this. I think that a more interactive discussion might be helpful. Would you be willing to meet me on IRC? If so, could you email me off-list so that we can set up a time and channel for a meeting? Thanks, Pine On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:21 AM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] March 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#9)

Katherine At some point it would be interesting to learn how the external consultants were selected. I note, for example, that Lake Associates describes itself as working "side by side with our clients on developing communications and paid media, targeting supporters, and honing the messages that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

Andrew, I somewhat agree. This is a discussion list. The people who are here tend to be especially well-informed, and discussions can be very informative and useful. RfCs and surveys have their own limitations, so getting a "representative slice of community sentiment" is a bit of a challenge, espe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Hi, No, I didn't ask any help from the WMF. I don't know if it would have changed anything. Regards, Yann 2017-03-05 21:07 GMT+01:00 Rogol Domedonfors : > Yann > > Did you ask for, or receive, any help from the WMF? If so, was it > effective? If not, do you think you should have done? > > "R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Hi Steinsplitter. Thanks for mentioning this was discussed multiple times on Wikimedia Commons. The discussion on the German Wikipedia was actually the trigger of this discussion, so we were aware of that existing. I didn't see a reference to the discussions on Commons yet. Do you have links by any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

Lodewijk, I posted ​on the 4th, > Licensing and the choices have been discussed on Commons https://commons. > wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/AppropriatelyLicensed is > well worth a read to understand the issue the problem of no attribution is a real issue sometimes I just ask f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Todd Allen wrote: > I'm not a German speaker, and I know context and nuance can be lost in > machine translation. That being said, the one about someone who was > offering attribution and then got slapped with a bill for a simple > technical error is very disturbin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?

Hoi, You seek cultural change but what is it that you want to change? You are outspoken and as others commented an edge that is more than confrontational. My appreciation is one where I fail to see the connection with what we do, it is only about how we do it. That is in my opinion overrated. In m