On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Pine W wrote:
> I think that I've said enough in this thread, so I'll pause my involvement
> here for the time being.
Fortunately for you, I actually read all the way through this thread
and got to this part.
Austin
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Just a few comments more broadly about what I hope WMF will look for in an
ED:
(1) Realistically, I don't think that we're going to find a single human
being who can do everything that the WMF ED should do. With that in mind,
I'd like to suggest placing a lot of emphasis on this recommendation tha
I realize that Oliver has departed from this conversation, but since this
is a public discussion I wanted to respond to one point in particular,
which is "If we informed the candidates about everything that
had ever been discussed on the mailing lists, they'd die of old age before
we'd finished." I
On 20 April 2016 at 00:05, Pine W wrote:
> Ironholds, I think that you're taking a negative interpretation. It seems
> to me that any ED candidate is going to want to know what they're getting
> into before agreeing to take the job, and if forks are on the horizon
They aren't. Its an incredibly b
Hello Alice,
Thank you for this clear update and the opportunity to provide input. I
really appreciate it.
May the force be with you!
Warmly,
/a
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Alice Wiegand
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Finding the next Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director is a clear
> priority
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Pine W wrote:
> Ironholds, I think that you're taking a negative interpretation. It seems
> to me that any ED candidate is going to want to know what they're getting
> into before agreeing to take the job, and if forks are on the horizon --
> whether planned or onl
Ironholds, I think that you're taking a negative interpretation. It seems
to me that any ED candidate is going to want to know what they're getting
into before agreeing to take the job, and if forks are on the horizon --
whether planned or only under consideration -- then this is something that
the
On 18 April 2016 at 18:22, Pine W wrote:
> Just because an idea is hatched by a few people isn't a reason to dismiss
> it.
Indeed. Which is why I didn't dismiss it.
> It seems to me that any incoming ED needs to know what the plan is, if
> there is a plan
So far as splitting up the WMF into sm
It's not a reason to *dismiss* it, no, but it's definitely not a
reason to entirely reorganise our plans for organisational governance
in case it turns out to get traction at *some* point. And that's what
you're talking about here; making monumental changes to the timetable,
scope and demands of a
Hi Andy,
Just because an idea is hatched by a few people isn't a reason to dismiss
it. Otherwise, how would ideas get traction?
It seems to me that any incoming ED needs to know what the plan is, if
there is a plan, regarding possible forks from WMF. It's also highly
desirable that, if this is be
Hi Joseph,
No, because board members' first duties are to WMF, not to the community or
the affiliates.
Pine
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Joseph Seddon
wrote:
> Does Dariusz as a community selected board member not count?
>
> Seddon
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Tanweer Morshed
> w
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Joseph Seddon
wrote:
> Does Dariusz as a community selected board member not count?
>
>
I would certainly hope that people DO approach me with ideas, and I am
definitely very open to the discussion within the community.
dj
On 17 April 2016 at 21:52, Pine W wrote:
> But recent discussions have included the possibility of spinning off
> components of WMF and/or a breakup of the WMF organization, partly as a way
> to mitigate the systemic risk from a dysfunctional or underperforming WMF.
> So, should we be looking for
Does Dariusz as a community selected board member not count?
Seddon
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Tanweer Morshed
wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I agree with Pine on his 3rd proposal. Including a representative from the
> affiliates and another from the community into the search steering group
>
Hi everyone,
I agree with Pine on his 3rd proposal. Including a representative from the
affiliates and another from the community into the search steering group
should help including the input from wider Wikimedia community. This would
be positive both for the search process and the recruitment.
So you're suggesting we don't find an ED for the biggest org in the
movement because there's a thread on a mailing list about spinning bits of
it off?
I think hiring an ED can be done safely. Spinning elements off the WMF is
something that has already been done, repeatedly, be it duties (the FDC,
Lisa,
Good to hear. Thanks.
I'm aware that my first question might feel like it's a lot for the Board
to digest while it's got so many other urgent issues. However, it seems to
me that any ED candidate would want to know if spinoffs or a breakup are
under consideration, and that if these are like
Hi Pine-
I can answer your second question for you. We are moving forward with
hiring the CTO, VP of HR, and VP of Community (in that order) during the
interim.
Best,
Lisa
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Pine W wrote:
> Hi Alice,
>
> Thank you for moving forward with this.
>
> Questions:
>
>
Hi Alice,
Thank you for moving forward with this.
Questions:
1. One of the characteristics listed is "Experience in leading an
organization as ED or CEO, very preferably an NGO or F/L/OSS
(Free/Libre/Open Source Software) organization, with 250 people or more."
But recent discussions have includ
Hi all,
Finding the next Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director is a clear
priority for the Board. To address this challenge, the Board has created a
steering group tasked with crafting the actual job description, planning
and conducting the search, and finding ways to include community
perspecti
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