Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Richard Symonds
Thanks Moushira :-) On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote: > Hello again, > > I see that we have an interesting input here. > > Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in > their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
Hello again, I see that we have an interesting input here. Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate or jargon Silicon Valley culture, as I simply don't live in the US, and I don't have any corporate

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
Hello everyone , I agree with Fae and Craig, It's foreign jargon especially in this context , and on top of that jargon form a professional background where the term has been misused (imho) It has in my jargon the connotation of obsessively recurring idea , like a depressed patient always

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-19 Thread Oliver Keyes
While I agree with people that it's an uncommon and exclusionary phrase (and a confusing one!) it seems like Moushira fully acknowledges this and is going to work harder on this sort of problem in the future, for which I laud her. If we want to have a general conversation about language choice at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-18 Thread Derek V.Giroulle
Hello Moushira, Iḿ sorry i didn't say this explicitely , i was n persoanlly attacking you i was as you point out focussing the critic at jargon use in the WMF thanks derek On 16-03-16 17:58, Richard Symonds wrote: Thanks Moushira :-) On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-16 Thread Anders Wennersten
This is not he only case where I lately have observed a tendency to use words which is more or less unintelligent for non-English speaking people. The phrase "Inspire Campaign on content curation & review" includes a number of complicated words. I commented upon this [1] to Jethro who only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 16 Mar 2016 07:07, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote: > > Hello Fae, > > Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context. > Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these > fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
But...but...Moushira just acknowledged the point. Gracefully, I think. Can't we simply trust her to incorporate the feedback into future announcements? For anybody who had trouble discerning what the consultation is about, its first question makes it clear: "How can we make Wikipedia more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Moushira, The problem when you use jargon like "ideation" in this context is that you're essentially excluding anyone who isn't familiar with the particular terminology used in the field. Especially so when there are plenty of plain-English alternatives that can be used in its place. Note

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
Hello Fae, Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context. Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it. I am not sure

Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread
On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy wrote: ... > The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early engagement > in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users. ... Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation, however there seems