Thanks Moushira :-)
On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote:
> Hello again,
> I see that we have an interesting input here.
> Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in
> their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate
I see that we have an interesting input here.
Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in
their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate or jargon Silicon
Valley culture, as I simply don't live in the US, and I don't have any
Hello everyone ,
I agree with Fae and Craig,
It's foreign jargon especially in this context , and on top of that
jargon form a professional background where the term has been misused
It has in my jargon the connotation of obsessively recurring idea , like
a depressed patient
While I agree with people that it's an uncommon and exclusionary
phrase (and a confusing one!) it seems like Moushira fully
acknowledges this and is going to work harder on this sort of problem
in the future, for which I laud her.
If we want to have a general conversation about language choice at
Iḿ sorry i didn't say this explicitely , i was n persoanlly attacking you
i was as you point out focussing the critic at jargon use in the WMF
On 16-03-16 17:58, Richard Symonds wrote:
Thanks Moushira :-)
On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy"
This is not he only case where I lately have observed a tendency to use
words which is more or less unintelligent for non-English speaking people.
The phrase "Inspire Campaign on content curation & review" includes a
number of complicated words. I commented upon this  to
Jethro who only
On 16 Mar 2016 07:07, "Moushira Elamrawy" wrote:
> Hello Fae,
> Ideation phase , is a term widely used in product and design context.
> Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
> fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly
But...but...Moushira just acknowledged the point. Gracefully, I think.
Can't we simply trust her to incorporate the feedback into future
For anybody who had trouble discerning what the consultation is about, its
first question makes it clear:
"How can we make Wikipedia more
The problem when you use jargon like "ideation" in this context is that
you're essentially excluding anyone who isn't familiar with the particular
terminology used in the field. Especially so when there are plenty of
plain-English alternatives that can be used in its place. Note
Ideation phase , is a term widely used in product and design context.
Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.
I am not sure
On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy wrote:
> The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early engagement
> in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
however there seems
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