Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Hurd
In the short term, this is a reason why the Visual Editor needs to cater for wiki markup to be reprocessed as required. Hopefully the VE Template Editor has been designed for clipboard interaction and this will be easy to cater for. (Otherwise, again we've been foisted a pre-alpha version

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Nick Dowling
Hi Liam, I've used Trove for quite a few articles. In response to your questions: 1) Given that experienced Wikipedia editors are still mainly using wiki code, and will probably do so for some time, the pre-filled wiki mark up remains very useful. 2) I agree that this functionality is mainly

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to your points thus far, (and others - please send me any responses you have too!) The general gist, if I can put it this way, is the current cite code is working, don't fix it until it's broken. Which is good to hear :-) This answers my question no.1, but

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Gnangarra
as to where the citation needs to available its any where from which editors draw information from Trove, including, newspapers, magazines, audio(http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758) On 7 August 2013 18:33, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Gnangarra
If the NLA page has the WP citation, currenlty its just *Citation Details* *Use the following url to begin from this point:* * http://www.nla.gov.au/amad/nla.oh-vn5811404/5-2 * *Or this url to play only the portion of audio:* * http://www.nla.gov.au/amad/nla.oh-vn5811404/5-2~5-4 *I'd probably

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Foord
I have used Trove for predominantly newspaper articles in biographies, occasionally other encylopaedic articles. The ability to reference publications by author using the Wikipedia citation has also been useful. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_Pasco - having the underscores

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Hurd
I just want to point out a slight variation on the cites provided by these two URLs: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5811404 http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/163116758?versionId=13644 compared to the newspaper one: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71368302 Note how the former two

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
Nicely spotted Mark. Thanks. wittylama.com Peace, love metadata On 7 August 2013 12:48, Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to point out a slight variation on the cites provided by these two URLs: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/5811404

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Graham Pearce
Indeed, I've submitted bug reports to the NLA about the Wikipedia citation formatting. In addition to what Liam said, they're not so easy to fix automatically ... Graham On 7/08/2013 6:33 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: Thanks Mark, Nick, Gideon, In response to your points thus far, (and others -

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WP citations in NLA/Trove

2013-08-07 Thread Rodney Brown
I've never used a NLA generated citation template, but have added many templates generated by Diberri's template filler, the google books tool, DOIBot and by hand. (RDBrown) Like the British Library, Library of Congress, Worldcat or Google the NLA doesn't (from a quick look) provide