Just to clarify:
I don't want to comment on Saagar's actions as a Marketting team member for
PRagyaan.
As an individual, he helped me a lot, and sacrificed his event for this.
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Also, a gentle reminder, there are
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Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:39:48 +0530
From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Heya all.
I guess, I really need to explain something here.
I was wrong when I blamed the organisers of Pragyan
On 29 February 2012 17:55, Sushant R sushi2coo...@hotmail.com wrote:
so u agre? gud. cos u scrwd up n did it big tym.
u don hav a lptop, no isssus. get 1. can't afford one? get lost.
v aint got no place 4 ppl lyk u.
Whoa there! Be nice. Don't bite. And please, certainly no ad hominem
attacks.
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
On 29 February 2012 17:55, Sushant R sushi2coo...@hotmail.com wrote:
so u agre? gud. cos u scrwd up n did it big tym.
u don hav a lptop, no isssus. get 1. can't afford one? get lost.
v aint got no place 4 ppl lyk u.
On 3 March 2012 22:21, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a troll. We usually [[Wikipedia:Deny recognition|ignore]]. :-)
Ah! Carry on then. Nothing to see here.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
Heya all.
I guess, I really need to explain something here.
I was wrong when I blamed the organisers of Pragyan for what happened.
The Fiasco, isn't a FIASCO anymore. We've got four users from the event
and I'm proud of that.
I
Dear all,
Also, a gentle reminder, there are several students who subscribe to this
list after outreach sessions and though they may not respond, they would
definitely read a mail concerning their college. Maybe we should be more
careful so as not to ruin relations forever?
Just an idea.
Cheers
I'm told in a Facebook post is that we have a silver lining - that you have
four new editors thanks to the Outreach so imho I'd say your event was not
a fiasco but a success for us in retrospect.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Feb
Aiyo, you are making #sadkittens. Now that you know you got us 4 more
editors, cheer up! :) Forget the problems, gear up for the next one! Sorry
you had to hear so much shouting. *offers you a chocolate*
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parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
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It's not just me I'm afraid.
One more hard working person who supported me is getting screwed up.
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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
Aiyo, you are making #sadkittens. Now that you know you got us 4 more
editors, cheer up! :) Forget the problems,
WARNING: THIS IS A PARTICULARLY LONG MAIL, WHICH TALKS ABOUT A FEW PERSONAL
EXPERIENCES AS WELL.
Heya all,
So, this is the mail about the event which happened at NITT this weekend.
Before I start off, I'll apologise and say thanks to:
* Nitika Tandon, For all the support and help you have given
Hey Srikanth!
There's no need to apologize to me. The organizers cut short our time
because of their problems with the internet connection and the fact that
they had to shoe-horn a sponsors presentation in the same time slot as ours.
Also, the fact that i'm a working professional and you are a
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 16:51, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.comwrote:
The organizers cut short our time because of their problems with the
internet connection and the fact that they had to shoe-horn a sponsors
presentation in the same time slot as ours.
This is bad. You asked for /
So, I have nothing to do with the problem in hands - and I'm not even
Indian, by the contrary, I born in the other side of the world - but there
is one thing i needed to answer (bold is mine).
*Srikanth Lakshmanan* said: *In short, when going to a college, keep your
expectations to bare minimum
Hey Srikanth R,
Too bad this happened but I see this more as an analysis of what went wrong
with the fest than what went wrong with the Wiki session. In the past it
has happened that we conduct a session only with 4-5 people due to
miscommunication and no facilities but at the end of the day, I go
hey Srikant R,
Too bad you and your friends had this experience. But, don't talk
yourself out of giving such academies. Not all academies will be
awesome, some will be good - some will be horrible. In all these
instances YOU will learn, not only about how to make things happen,
situation
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 18:40, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the question regarding outreach is being framed in a wrong light
here.The problem seriously is not about what is the point of spending X
hours?. The point is, are we making the most of those hours? Do we as a
I've read your reply very carefully and that is why I am suggesting a
change in paradigm. Eventually, your comments reflect on the main question:
was it worth it? And, I am merely suggesting that we will have to start
looking at worth differently than time consumed.
Regarding the chapter signing
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The Great NITT fiasco ...
I've read your reply very carefully and that is why I am suggesting a change in
paradigm. Eventually, your comments reflect on the main question: was it worth
it? And, I am merely suggesting that we will have to start
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:44, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I am merely suggesting that we will have to start looking at worth
differently than time consumed.
Some where else, someone learnt[1] time is scarcest resource and I think it
applies to our context as well. I am out of here.
This is getting a bit silly guys.
There is no huge issue here, from what I read, some volunteers were treated
badly, I am sorry for everyone involved. But let's move on, stuff like this
happens all across the world. Learn what you can from it, and try to avoid
them.
All this is going into larger
Noopur,
Our websites are top 10 in terms of use and access in this country. A
large proportion of Internet users in India are aware of Wikipedia, if
not more of our projects. So, to characterize the movement as nascent
would be inaccurate. :-)
Most of us, when invited to speak at institutions
Read again. Awareness about *editing Wikipedia. *I know everyone knows what
Wikipedia is :)
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
Noopur,
Our websites are top 10 in terms of use and access in this country. A
large proportion of Internet users in India
Hold on. We're getting derailed here. Indian standards? I send an
email to the MD of KGISL at 3am requesting a room for Wikipedia next
week and get a reply at 6am saying Yes. Was it worth it? For this, it
is worth it if the crowd understands how we work. Which didn't happen.
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Regards,
Srikanth
And regarding an 'informal agreement', I am not trying to pinch here but an
'informal MoU' kind of sounds self-contradictory, no? Also it would be
great if we could have a copy of it publicly, just for future reference on
informal/formal extents of agreements.
thanks much
Noopur
On Tue, Feb 28,
So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you
didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making
easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and
not a report on how they managed it badly. Let's talk of things we can
control.
On Tue,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
So, why didn't they understand? What went wrong? You admitted that you
didn't prepare in advance. Also, do you want help with making
easier-understandable presentations? I want that analysis in this mail and
not a report on
I was just trying to ask why this is a great fiasco. We do at least 4-5
outreach events every month and maybe some self evaluation will help.
That's all. Sorry for making it stupid , not my intention.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
I was just trying to ask why this is a great fiasco. We do at least 4-5
outreach events every month and maybe some self evaluation will help.
That's all. Sorry for making it stupid , not my intention.
Well, there is a way
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
And regarding an 'informal agreement', I am not trying to pinch here but an
'informal MoU' kind of sounds self-contradictory, no? Also it would be great
if we could have a copy of it publicly, just for future reference on
Err... could we focus here? As far as presentations as concerned
Noopur, thanks but Nitika gave me an excellent one. As for fiasco, you
put a bird in cage and ask it to fly, wit happens? We went prepared
with two hours. Had to squeeze it to 1.
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Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia
An MoU is a Memorandum of Understanding, not Memorandum of Agreement.
It's not a binding contract. Hence it was informal. Also, wasn't it me
who told Nitika and Naveen bout the Mou in the first place? Makes it
my fault. We should've said no at that point itself. I'll stay away
till such time I
Hey Srikanth,
Let's start fresh. I think you put in tremendous effort and it is a shame
that you put in so much of work and call it a great fiasco. In my humble
opinion, every experience is good to learn. I was simply asking you to
concentrate more on the session and tell us what was good and bad
I think the discussion has gone off on a bit of a tangent here.
As far as the hospitality (or lack of it) goes, its not *that *big a deal
and certainly does not deter me from conducting any academies in the
future. (and it shouldn't deter Srikanth as well)
That being said we should not overlook
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