Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Annual accounts

[Michael Peel]

Hi Andrew,

An unsigned version of the accounts are on the wiki:
https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2011-12_Annual_Accounts.pdf
and our auditors have the version signed by me and John for them to add their 
signature to it.

I'm waiting for some information from Saad before I can file the form with 
companies house. Charities Commission need less info, so that's already updated.

I'll have to check into the revised AoA not being filed.

Thanks,
Mike

On 6 Oct 2012, at 11:17, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:

 For completeness, can I also mention that you don't appear to have filed the 
 form AP01 with Companies House regarding the appointment of Saad [1] nor the 
 revised Articles of Association which were approved at the AGM regarding 
 Scottish charity compliance and 2 year director terms.
 
 [1] 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2012/09/wikimedia-uk-appoints-saad-choudri-to-its-board/
 
 Regards,
 
 On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 Looking at Companies House, I notice that the annual accounts have yet been 
 filed and are due at the end of the month. This caused considerable issues in 
 the past so I wondered whether these were now complete? If not, is there a 
 risk that they will be late?
 
 If so, I suggest you bring this to the attention of the Foundation 
 immediately.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

[Michael Peel]

On 7 Oct 2012, at 22:37, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 October 2012 22:34, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
 Classically the board tried to get a
 consensus on all matters.
 
 That's the problem right there. A fear of disagreement. Far better to
 make a half-decent majority decision than fail to make any decision at
 all because there isn't a consensus.

The board aims for consensus, but majority decisions do take place when they 
are needed (as the meeting minutes record).

On 7 Oct 2012, at 22:34, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm not sure that any of the trustees meet socially when there is no meeting

I would note that I've just got back to my computer after an afternoon meeting 
with Chris and then an evening meal with John, both of which were outside of a 
formal meeting. But I'd also note that the discussions were firmly focused on 
WMUK. I'm not too sure whether that counts as 'social' or 'informal business 
meeting' - but either way I don't think that this is something that would cause 
any problems, COI or otherwise - it's actually highly beneficial to the charity 
for this sort of discussion to take place.

Finally, I'd like to echo Tango's excellent rule of thumb, since I completely 
agree with it (and the rest of his paragraph, which I've cropped for brevity):

On 7 Oct 2012, at 19:14, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think there is an excellent rule of thumb: if you feel conflicted,
 then you are. I just trust my conscience to tell me when the line has
 been crossed - if I start to feel uncomfortable, I take a step back.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf WMUK

[Michael Peel]

On 9 Oct 2012, at 16:27, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 09/10/12 14:31, David Gerard wrote:
 Media storms were fun when I was
 the only person on hand to do telly ...
 Like I said, move the offices to Salford.

That doesn't really make much difference when it comes to media. It's very easy 
for me to get to the BBC's MediaCity in Salford Quays, but it's very rare that 
there's opportunities to be interviewed there. I've been on Radio 5 Live once 
from their studios in MediaCity, and that's about it. Most relevant media work 
(particularly TV) still takes place in London.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

[Michael Peel]

On 13 Oct 2012, at 20:52, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Tom Holden tom.hol...@economics.ox.ac.uk 
 wrote:
 Is there a role for an advisory board? It was discussed a while back. Perhaps 
 some of the long serving former board members could be invited to be on it 
 (Andrew T., Joe S., Tom D.)?
 
 A little bit of an external check of are we doing something basically 
 sensible might help.
 
 
 +1
 
 And I'd hope you would be on it too :) 

I'd personally agree that an advisory board could be very beneficial for WMUK. 
I've set out a first draft of what such a board could look like, after looking 
into the WMF's advisory board setup and some other background documents, at:
https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board

I would like to put this forward to the board at its November meeting, if the 
proposal is sufficiently well developed and there's general agreement by then. 
I'd greatly appreciate it if those interested in this topic could edit the page 
directly, leave messages on the talk page, reply to this email or contact me 
off-list/wiki. :-)

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

[Michael Peel]

On 21 Oct 2012, at 19:30, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21 October 2012 19:20, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I'd personally agree that an advisory board could be very beneficial for
 WMUK. I've set out a first draft of what such a board could look like, after
 looking into the WMF's advisory board setup and some other background
 documents, at:
 https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
 
 I don't think the WMF's advisory board has been particularly
 successful or effective, so I would advise against basing WMUK's on it
 to too great an extent.
 
 Sitting on the WMF's advisory board is more of a sinecure than
 anything. If WMUK is going to have an advisory board, we need to
 ensure we avoid that.

I'd agree with you here, and I think there's a fair few differences between the 
WMF's advisory board and what I've set out on-wiki. What I've posted is very 
much meant as a straw man, though, to set things going - so please help improve 
it. :-)

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile uk.wikimedia.org still failing

[Michael Peel]

I've raised this on bugzilla at:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41334
Please add any clarifying comments there that you think would be useful.

Thanks,
Mike

On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:46, Damokos Bence damokos.be...@wikimedia.hu wrote:

 I think this issue affects all *.wikimedia.org addresses (at least the ones 
 of chapters hosted by the WMF); a workaround is to change the user-agent 
 setting in your mobile browser, if possible.
 
 Best regards,
 Bence
 
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Stevie Benton 
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I'm still having problems too.
 
 Stevie
 
 On Oct 23, 2012 7:09 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 It appears that this is still an issue.
 
 On 5 October 2012 12:57, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
  Have just chased this up with the WMF. Thanks for reminding me Andy!
 
  On 5 October 2012 12:49, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  It's difficult to promote events like:
 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
  when mobile visits to that URL are redirected to:
 
 http://uk.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
  and errors are returned for all http://uk.m.wikimedia.org pages.
 
  I know this has been raised on this mailing list previously, but
  there's still no sign of a fix.
 
  The impact of this problem can be understood by considering that
  yesterday it was reported that 40% of Wikipedia's growth is mobile,
  versus 4% desktop.
 
  Can this serious bug be (re-)escalated as a matter of urgency, please?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile uk.wikimedia.org still failing

[Michael Peel]

Thanks for checking - I'm glad that this has now definitely been solved. :-)

Thanks,
Mike

On 29 Oct 2012, at 14:53, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 And me
 
 Tom Morton
 
 On 29 Oct 2012, at 21:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
 Working for me, now.
 
 On 29 October 2012 20:43, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I think that this issue has now been resolved for uk.wikimedia.org, or at
 least it works on my phone now. Could someone confirm whether that is the
 case or not please?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 24 Oct 2012, at 15:02, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 I'll make some more noise on this, but I've already made quite a bit. if
 anyone knows any of the developers well, please let them know. This
 genuinely affects outreach, and the effectiveness of the
 staff/trustees/volunteers, for various chapters worldwide.
 
 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 
 On 24 October 2012 20:29, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The assignment feature is rarely used on Wikimedia's bugzilla
 installation per se, in fairness. But yes, no developer seems to have
 taken a keen interest in it yet.
 
 Harry
 
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 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 Thank you. That was closed as a duplicate of
 
  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38799
 
 which was raised in July this year, and yet is still unassigned.
 
 On 23 October 2012 23:21, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 I've raised this on bugzilla at:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41334
 Please add any clarifying comments there that you think would be
 useful.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:46, Damokos Bence damokos.be...@wikimedia.hu
 wrote:
 
 I think this issue affects all *.wikimedia.org addresses (at least the
 ones
 of chapters hosted by the WMF); a workaround is to change the
 user-agent
 setting in your mobile browser, if possible.
 
 Best regards,
 Bence
 
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Stevie Benton
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 I'm still having problems too.
 
 Stevie
 
 On Oct 23, 2012 7:09 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 It appears that this is still an issue.
 
 On 5 October 2012 12:57, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 Have just chased this up with the WMF. Thanks for reminding me
 Andy!
 
 On 5 October 2012 12:49, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 It's difficult to promote events like:
 
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
 when mobile visits to that URL are redirected to:
 
  http://uk.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
 and errors are returned for all http://uk.m.wikimedia.org pages.
 
 I know this has been raised on this mailing list previously, but
 there's still no sign of a fix.
 
 The impact of this problem can be understood by considering that
 yesterday it was reported that 40% of Wikipedia's growth is
 mobile,
 versus 4% desktop.
 
 Can this serious bug be (re-)escalated as a matter of urgency,
 please?
 
 --
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 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mobile uk.wikimedia.org still failing

[Michael Peel]

Done.

Thanks,
Mike

On 30 Oct 2012, at 03:40, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com wrote:

 If an admin could stick the following in
 https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css, that should do the
 trick.
 
 #footer-places-mobileview { display: none; }
 
 Glad this is finally solved!
 
 Pete / the wub
 
 
 On 29 October 2012 22:24, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 Yes - they've simply suppressed the redirection to m.wikimedia.org.uk (which
 still doesn't exist). My mobile phone is simply displaying wikimedia.org.uk
 - just as my pc does. There's simply no point in that link at present.
 
 --
 Doug
 
 
 
 On 29 October 2012 21:59, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 'mobile view' link at the bottom of the pages still fails though, a
 minor problem though - maybe we can hide that link through editing a
 MediaWiki: page on the wiki?
 
 Thehelpfulone
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone
 
 On 29 Oct 2012, at 21:53, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 And me
 
 Tom Morton
 
 On 29 Oct 2012, at 21:52, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 Working for me, now.
 
 On 29 October 2012 20:43, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 I think that this issue has now been resolved for uk.wikimedia.org, or
 at
 least it works on my phone now. Could someone confirm whether that is
 the
 case or not please?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 24 Oct 2012, at 15:02, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 I'll make some more noise on this, but I've already made quite a bit.
 if
 anyone knows any of the developers well, please let them know. This
 genuinely affects outreach, and the effectiveness of the
 staff/trustees/volunteers, for various chapters worldwide.
 
 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
 and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
 Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A
 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation
 (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal
 control over
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 
 On 24 October 2012 20:29, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The assignment feature is rarely used on Wikimedia's bugzilla
 installation per se, in fairness. But yes, no developer seems to have
 taken a keen interest in it yet.
 
 Harry
 
 --
 Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250)
 
 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Andy Mabbett
 a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 Thank you. That was closed as a duplicate of
 
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38799
 
 which was raised in July this year, and yet is still unassigned.
 
 On 23 October 2012 23:21, Michael Peel
 michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 I've raised this on bugzilla at:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41334
 Please add any clarifying comments there that you think would be
 useful.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 23 Oct 2012, at 19:46, Damokos Bence
 damokos.be...@wikimedia.hu
 wrote:
 
 I think this issue affects all *.wikimedia.org addresses (at least
 the
 ones
 of chapters hosted by the WMF); a workaround is to change the
 user-agent
 setting in your mobile browser, if possible.
 
 Best regards,
 Bence
 
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Stevie Benton
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 I'm still having problems too.
 
 Stevie
 
 On Oct 23, 2012 7:09 PM, Andy Mabbett
 a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 It appears that this is still an issue.
 
 On 5 October 2012 12:57, Richard Symonds
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 Have just chased this up with the WMF. Thanks for reminding me
 Andy!
 
 On 5 October 2012 12:49, Andy Mabbett
 a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:
 
 It's difficult to promote events like:
 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
 when mobile visits to that URL are redirected to:
 
 http://uk.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/RBSA_Backstage_Pass
 
 and errors are returned for all http://uk.m.wikimedia.org
 pages.
 
 I know this has been raised on this mailing list previously,
 but
 there's still no sign of a fix.
 
 The impact of this problem can be understood by considering
 that
 yesterday it was reported that 40% of Wikipedia's growth is
 mobile,
 versus 4% desktop.
 
 Can this serious bug be (re-)escalated as a matter of urgency,
 please?
 
 --
 Andy Mabbett
 @pigsonthewing
 http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] In response to today’s news articles in The Times and The Daily Telegraph about PR editing of Wikipedia

[Michael Peel]

According to the Times, the reverted edits referred to were made by 
212.161.34.130. Looking through the history of the article, the relevant diffs 
seem to be:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alisher_Usmanovdiff=379790641oldid=377970394
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alisher_Usmanovdiff=392056591oldid=391203395

I'd encourage you to post a message on the article talk page pointing towards 
the diff that you link to, so that the editors that are currently looking at 
that article are aware of it.

Thanks,
Mike

On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

 If this diff was the change:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alisher_Usmanovdiff=482553850oldid=481482592
 
 When was this undone? The deleted stuff about Kommersant (cited to the BBC, 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16183112 ) is not in the article even 
 now. 
 
 Andreas
 
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Stevie Benton 
 stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Fair point. The reason I wrote it that way is because they basically took The 
 Times story and repackaged it. But yes, a distinction worth making.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Stevie
 
 
 On 12 November 2012 17:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12 November 2012 16:59, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
  Wikimedia UK has just published a blog post giving its response to today's 
  news stories in The Times and The Daily Telegraph about paid editing of 
  Wikipedia.
  You can see the blog post at http://bit.ly/ZfSaln but the full content is 
  below.
 
 
 I wouldn't say the Telegraph republished the Times story - that
 implies a reprint or licensed copy - though it's clear they just
 worked straight from it. Possibly also ran the story.
 
 
 - d.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] In response to today’s news articles in The Times and The Daily Telegraph about PR editing of Wikipedia

[Michael Peel]

On 13 Nov 2012, at 21:16, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 (It's such a pity the Times really doesn't want its stuff widely read
 on the net, i.e. by the people who would be most interested in this.)

I completely agree. It's very scary that the Daily Mail is more accessible than 
the Times on the internet right now. :-?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK October report - contributions wanted

[Michael Peel]

On 16 Nov 2012, at 15:30, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:

 On 16 November 2012 15:26, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 It doesn't seem to be working!
 
 We do ask that if you've taken part in any WMUK activity that you add it to
 the report if you're able. I'm not sure why that seems to have dropped off,
 but there have been plenty of reminders and calls for content.
 
 Perhaps because the report is a really dull surrogate for a proper
 newsletter, allowing the community an editorial voice? And
 contributing to our public life. Such as the Signpost. And instead
 looks like the fulfilment of a reporting requirement of a box-ticking
 kind.

But it seems to work for the GLAM newsletter, where e.g. there is a 'UK report' 
with pretty much the same intent as the 'Wikimedia UK report'?
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/October_2012/Contents/UK_report

Would a simple rename make people feel more able to contribute, or does there 
need to be more change than that?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK October report - contributions wanted

[Michael Peel]

This is, of course, the way that we originally started the newsletters/reports 
way back in 2008, when we took the Signpost model and adapted it. ;-)

E.g. see:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Newsletter/July2009
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Newsletter/Subscribers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Peel/Archive_6#Wikimedia_UK_Newsletter_-_July_2009_Issue

Thanks,
Mike

On 22 Nov 2012, at 12:36, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 A model such as the Wikipedia signpost might work...
 
 Which, for those that don't know, has a fairly regular format of things it 
 covers (with a nice layout), plus it accepts articles/editorial from the 
 community.
 
 I'm sure the current monthly reports could be formatted in a similar way; 
 find someone to be an editor to write the intro each month, and perhaps 
 coerce jon into writing a short CE's report and you have the makings of a 
 newsletter. 
 
 Then it's a case of drumming up other articles :)
 
 Tom
 
 On 22 November 2012 12:32, John Byrne j...@bodkinprints.co.uk wrote:
 r own version.  We should  always bear this in mind, and encourage 
 contributions from outside the existing r-l community, but probably early 
 numbers will concentrate UK news on chapter  meetup affairs, as well as 
 wider issues like the internet bill thingy.  But the main thing is to get one 
 going.  Obviously, from the chapter POV, the newsletter should be a prime 
 means of reaching out to the wider community and recruiting active volunteers.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK Finance Action Plan 2012/13 and Finance Policy revision 2012

[Michael Peel]

Try the links in the on-wiki version of John's message at the water cooler:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#Finance_documents

or here are the individual links:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Action_Plan_2012/13
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Governance/2012_Financial_review_by_Garfield_Byrd,_WMF_CFO
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_revision_2012
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Finance_Policy_revision_2012

Thanks,
Mike

On 25 Nov 2012, at 09:12, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 25/11/12 01:33, John Byrne wrote:
 I'd like to announce two new finance documents, now on the WMUK wiki:
 
 * Finance Action Plan 2012/13 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance Action 
 Plan 2012/13. This is our planned timetable for introducing improvements to 
 our financial controls and procedures in the light of the reports produced 
 this Autumn by UHY, our auditors, and 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Governance/2012 Financial review by Garfield 
 Byrd, WMF CFO the one by Garfield Byrd, WMF CFO.  Please comment on the talk 
 page.
 
 * Finance Policy revision 2012 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance Policy 
 revision 2012.   This is the outcome of a scheduled review (the first we've 
 done) of our Finance Policy at  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance Policy 
 . The Board has discussed and refined the proposed changes, which are now 
 open for community comment at the talk page 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Finance Policy revision 2012 . And there 
 are a couple of bits not yet worded up - help welcome!
 
 Thanks to Jon, Richard  the board for their help,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Polish becomes England's second language

[Michael Peel]

On 30 Jan 2013, at 22:46, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:

 On 30/01/13 19:00, Roger Bamkin wrote:
 Oh don't undersell the welsh Wicipedia - its the most popular web site
 in Welsh and we get access to Education ministers and top cultural
 bodies.
 
 But Peter, thanks for finding that detail. Nice to see the spread of 
 languages.
 
 
 By the way, if anyone's interested and in a position to help, I just took a 
 look on my phone, and saw that the mobile version of the Welsh Wikipedia 
 front page is currently broken, with no content other than the framing 
 content provided by the mobile interface...

I think this needs an admin of the Welsh Wicipedia to make some changes to the 
formatting of the main page, as per the guidelines at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepage_formatting

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMF withdraws support from WCA

[Michael Peel]

I put discussing the WCA on this weekend's board meeting agenda a while back. 
However, the context has obviously changed a lot now. I've just added an agenda 
item about the current situation, which will hopefully be accepted by the rest 
of the board. Fæ's already agreed to provide an update at the meeting.

Thanks,
Mike

On 6 Feb 2013, at 23:08, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:

 That's an interesting way of putting it! However, now that the WMF has come 
 out against, is there any way that the WCA can fulfill its stated aims? 
 Furthermore, if WMUK continues to support the WCA, will this damage the 
 chapter's relationship with the Foundation?
 
 On Feb 6, 2013 9:12 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6 February 2013 21:07, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I see the Foundation has withdrawn their support for the Wikimedia Chapters
  Association, the cross-chapters partnership that WMUK backed.
 
 To be honest, it never really offered any support in the first
 place... they said they liked the idea, but that's as far as it got.
 They haven't withdrawn their support, they've said they aren't going
 to be giving any support - subtly different!
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

[Michael Peel]

On 11 Feb 2013, at 20:02, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Feb 11, 2013 7:59 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  For example the next issue is how WMUK plans to pay for the upkeep of
  QRpedia given that it wasn't in the budget.
 
 There shouldn't be an issue there. The costs are minimal. Renewal costs for 
 two domain names and maybe a few hours work by the existing IT contractors to 
 transition things and sort out the security concerns that have been raised. 
 The budget can absorb that.

The need to have developer resources available to set up QRpedia on WMUK 
servers, and to maintain and improve it, has been thought about for a while now 
and was incorporated into this year's developer budget (although the activity 
plan doesn't explicitly state this).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia

[Michael Peel]

On 9 Feb 2013, at 18:52, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 9 February 2013 18:39, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
 
 Now this has been transferred to Wikimedia UK, would it be possible to
 remove the access logging on QRpedia to ensure it complies with both the
 letter and spirit of the WMF privacy policy.
 I am happy to provide a simple patch to this end as well as a code
 checkover.
 It may be sensible to run QRpedia code through WMF formal code review for
 security checking.
 
 
 +1 - the WMF privacy rules are harsh compared to many, but readers
 love them so much they're actually a pretty good model, and I'd like
 to talk e.g. the RationalWiki Foundation into formally adopting them
 (we use them informally for a lot of stuff though not all). So this
 should be considered a useful thing to do that users will love :-)

WMUK doesn't yet have an established privacy policy for its projects (aside 
from its donor privacy policy) - which is something that should be corrected. 
However, it's not trivial to turn the WMF's privacy policy into one that WMUK 
can adopt, due to the differences between the projects that WMF operate vs. 
those that WMUK operate. Based on the WMF privacy policy, I've set out a draft 
WMUK privacy policy at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy
This needs further revision, and I'd encourage everyone receiving this email to 
directly make, or use the talk page to suggest, changes to this draft policy.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photograph cropping day!

[Michael Peel]

Install Gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) on the visitor laptops and take them along?

Thanks,
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On 12 Feb 2013, at 13:52, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 My laptop doesn't have image editing software, otherwise I'd bring it, but if 
 there will be laptops available I'd be interested in helping out.
 
 Richard Nevell
 
 On 12 February 2013 10:53, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 Very nice! I will have a play, but it looks like that's more oriented
 towards reorienting than cropping...
 
 (I feel like there *ought* to be some kind of monstrous
 seventeen-clause command line script I can write to do this sort of
 thing, but no luck so far)
 
 - Andrew.
 
 On 11 February 2013 20:06, Harry Burt harryab...@gmail.com wrote:
  Has anyone tried using unpaper [1] on a sample of images? I could do -- all
  you really need is a Unix-based OS and some command-line savvy - but I'm a
  little tied up just at the moment.
 
  Harry
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Introducing ORGCon North!

[Michael Peel]

Unfortunately it's on the same day as GLAM-WIKI and the EGM…

Thanks,
Mike

On 28 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Not at all - we're hopefully going to be sending someone along. Any 
 volunteers to contact the office please!
 
 Richard Symonds
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 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 On 28 February 2013 14:36, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:
 People on this list may be interested in this event so hope there's no 
 objection to my cross-posting.
 
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 From: Ruth Coustick - ORG r...@openrightsgroup.org
 Date: Feb 28, 2013 12:09 PM
 Subject: Introducing ORGCon North!
 To: andrewrtur...@googlemail.com
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 Dear Andrew Turvey, 
 
 You are invited to ORGCon North 2013, our new digital rights conference!
 
 
 ORGCon North 2013
 
 Headline speaker: John Buckman
 
 Saturday 13 April
 
 11.00am – 5.30pm
 
 Friends Meeting House 6 Mount Street Manchester M2 5NS
 
 Tickets: £11.00; Paying supporters: £6.00
 
 New supporters: Free
 
 Book your tickets now!
 
 What’s happening?
 
 ORG are coming North this year! We are bringing an ORG flavoured digital 
 rights conference to Manchester on Saturday April 13th.
 
 The event is packed with exciting speakers, panel debates and workshops.
 
 John Buckman, chairman of the board at Electronic Frontier Foundation and 
 founder of the record label Magantune is giving the keynote speech on 
 challenges that ORG will be facing in the coming year.
 
 Key ORG issues, such as Section 127 and freedom of speech, the Communications 
 Data Bill, privacy and copyright will all be discussed by experts, see our 
 provisional programme for more details.
 
 We'll be running an “unconference track” with room for any attendees, panel 
 guests or ORG staff to give a talk or start a pop-up debate on something you 
 care about.
 
 Free tickets are available for ORG supporters who join before April 13th: 
 find out more at the event page and join ORG now.
 
 We look forward to seeing you there!
 
 Sincerely,
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia Research newsletter on UK university lecturers

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

There's a section of this month's Wikimedia research newsletter that might be 
of particular interest: UK university lecturers still skeptical and uninformed 
about Wikipedia:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2013/February#UK_university_lecturers_still_skeptical_and_uninformed_about_Wikipedia

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] when qrpedia and qrwp domains will be transferred?

[Michael Peel]

On 10 Mar 2013, at 22:00, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 March 2013 14:40, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
 Weeks? the registration on qrpedia.org expires in 5 days. Just let it
 expire and let WMUK pick up the domain.
 
 3 days now (weekend? you are working to a deadline now). And usually I
 wouldn't feel the need to point this out but the above was a joke. If
 you allow the domain to expire it will be nabbed a squatter which
 since there is no quick way to change QR codes will be a bit of a
 problem. As I said I wouldn't usually feel the need to point this out
 but well if we are to accept statements on this matter at face value
 we have to assume a massive level of technical incompetence.

qrpedia.org appears to have been renewed for a year - its expiry date is now 
13-Mar-2014. Many thanks to Terence and Roger for renewing it.

I've been pushing as much as I can for a while now on the WMUK side of things 
to get the domains transferred to WMUK asap. There's nothing technical that 
prevents that from taking place. However, I understand that there are 
unfortunately still some legal issues to work through, in particular relating 
to privacy, before the transfer can happen.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Audio stream of 23 March event

[Michael Peel]

Hi Richard,

Many thanks for setting up the livestreaming for today's event. I don't know 
how Awdio works - does it keep a copy of the broadcast, or does it just 
live-broadcast the audio without keeping a record? If the former, would it be 
possible to upload a copy of the record to Commons? It would be a valuable 
record of a good and useful event if so.

Thanks,
Mike

On 22 Mar 2013, at 18:03, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 All,
 
 Just to let you know that tomorrow's event will be livestreamed (audio only) 
 at 
 http://www.awdio.com/wikimedia-uk/d63e-the-future-of-wikimedia-uk_35945.html.
 
 All the best,
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK April 2013 report - call for content

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

If you've done anything connected with WMUK recently, then please do take a few 
minutes to add a couple of summary sentences about it to the monthly reports. 
Stevie put the link to this month's below; there's also the March report that's 
being collaboratively drafted at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2013/March

These reports are important as they're sent around to the global Wikimedia 
community, and as such they're the main way that the Foundation and the other 
chapters learn about what we're doing. They also serve as a historical record 
of our work, so people can look back and see what we've been up to 
month-by-month. And, of course, they're also for you, to learn about what 
others have done recently, and what is coming up in the near future.

Thanks,
Mike
P.S. if you don't have anything to report, but have a few minutes to spare, 
then please help copyedit the report - one suggestion of a quick and 
interesting task might be to turn the list of links in 'UK press coverage'  
into one-line summaries of those stories.

On 2 Apr 2013, at 13:11, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 I've created the page for the Wikimedia UK monthly report for April 2013 now. 
 It can be seen at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Reports/2013/April
 
 Please do take a look and add useful content wherever you can - we'd love for 
 you to be involved.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Stevie
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK EGM Saturday 18th April.

[Michael Peel]

On 3 Apr 2013, at 23:38, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:

 FWIW, I got a renewal reminder on 15/3, renewed the same day, but
 didn't get an email about the EGM on the 20th.

Andrew, could you check your spam folder please? I've just checked, and the 
email was definitely sent to you on the 20th (to your 'generalist' address).

On 4 Apr 2013, at 09:36, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 Thanks. Yes, I have that email. I was not looking for an email from 
 fundrais...@wikimedia.org.uk
 
 Probably makes more sense to have an email from/sender such as 
 members...@wikimedia.org.uk...

Indeed, the email should have come from that address, but was accidentally sent 
from the fundraising address (which is easy to do accidentally from the civicrm 
interface). Future emails should be coming from the membership@ address.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

[Michael Peel]

A reminder's now been sent to all members. If you haven't received a copy and 
think that you should have, then please email members...@wikimedia.org.uk to 
let us know.

Thanks,
Mike

On 10 Apr 2013, at 12:44, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 There'll be a reminder going out. We will almost certainly be quorate once 
 proxies are included - but we're not quite there yet, so do make sure you get 
 your votes in!
 
 Richard Symonds
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 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 On 10 April 2013 09:04, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:
 
 I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent on 
 whether those same people turn up!
 
 Indeed. How about a reminder to members?
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Privacy Policy - please comment and edit

[Michael Peel]

Indeed, at the 9th Feb board meeting. See the minutes (under 'tech committee') 
at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Minutes_9Feb13#Education_committee

Thanks,
Mike

On 12 Apr 2013, at 10:52, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 My recollection from a board meeting is that we were instructed to go ahead 
 with the transfer. I can't find which meeting it was though...
 
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 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 On 12 April 2013 07:16, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 Is the hosting switch actually going ahead? I know we'd been discussing this, 
 but I'd lost track of who was going to make the decision...
 
 Andrew.
 
 (still not convinced it's a good idea, for various reasons)
 
 
 On Friday, 12 April 2013, Katie Chan wrote:
 On 12/04/2013 00:44, Thehelpfulone wrote:
 
 This policy describes what happens to personal information obtained
 through the websites hosted at uk.wikimedia.org
 http://uk.wikimedia.org and wikimedia.org.uk
 http://wikimedia.org.uk. This policy will be updated periodically. -
 WMUK wiki is currently on the Foundation's servers so is subject to the
 Foundation's privacy policy - not this one if I understand correctly?
 
 Doesn't mean it can't be subject to both. And there are currently plans for 
 WMUK wiki hosting to be moved away from WMF servers.
 
 KTC
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian in Residence

[Michael Peel]

Congratulations, Andy.

Just to avoid any potential misunderstandings here, can I point out that this 
isn't a WMUK-supported WiR position, i.e. WMUK hasn't been involved in 
establishing or running this WiR position, and there's no contract between WMUK 
and the institution (as there is e.g. with TWAM and the Science Museum using an 
agreement like that at 
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Example_WiR_agreement.pdf ). This is 
something that Andy's doing as an individual.

Thanks,
Mike

On 16 Apr 2013, at 14:53, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 Excellent Andy, please bug me to call in and see the Gallery - I'm bound to 
 forget otherwise.
 
 -- 
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 On 16 April 2013 13:26, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 What makes you think I'm limited to the UK? ;-)
 
 Thank you, all, for your kind words. some great images being uploaded at:
 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Garman_Ryan_Collection
 
 A.
 
 
 On 16 April 2013 12:35, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
  How many GLAMs are there in the UK? :-)
 
  Keep spreading the news!
 
  On 16 April 2013 11:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  Event details are now at:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/NAGW
 
  On 16 April 2013 09:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   I am pleased to announce that this morning, I start work as Wikipedian
   in Residence at The New Art Gallery, Walsall
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Art_Gallery_Walsall
  
   I hope to have a project page on-Wiki later today, but in brief the
   main part of the project will be running a series of free open events
   for members of the public to learn to edit Wikipedia, and to use the
   gallery's impressive library an archives. Of course I'll also be
   training gallery staff, and advising the management board on their
   strategic approach to open content.
  
   This residency runs alongside my existing residency at Lancashire
   County Council's Queen Street Mill Textile Museum.
  
   I hope to see some of you at one or more of the NAGW events.
  
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] (no subject)

[Michael Peel]

The notice is also available on-wiki at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2013/Notice_of_Annual_General_Meeting

Thanks,
Mike

On 14 May 2013, at 14:26, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 All,
 
 It appears that some of the AGM-related emails haven't been received - they 
 may have gone into spam folders or similar.
 
 I'm therefore writing to remind you that the deadline for standing as a 
 trustee in the Wikimedia UK board elections is tomorrow evening. If you don't 
 have the information you need to stand, please let me know and I'll send it 
 to you.
 
 We'll be sending out specific emails to those who have expressed an interest 
 in the next hour or two. 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] EGM minutes

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

The draft EGM minutes are now available at:
https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013/Minutes

Sorry that these took so long to prepare. If anyone that was present at the EGM 
wants to correct this record, then please let me know, or feel free to edit the 
minutes directly before the end of the month. They will be put forward for 
approval at the AGM.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

[Michael Peel]

In general, Tom Morris’s email is spot on here.

Choice is always a good approach to take, so saying £X of book vouchers of 
your choice would be good, although it would be best to set out a list of what 
their choice is (a wiki page that can easily be linked to?) so they don’t ask 
for one that can’t be provided.

Offering cash crosses a bit of a line into a possible perception of being paid 
to contribute to the projects, so it’s better to avoid that. Plus, as Tom 
pointed out, it’s likely that book vouchers will be spent on books that are 
then used as references on the projects, so there’s extra benefit to the 
charity to offer them as prizes (this is why Amazon vouchers were chosen in the 
past).

Thanks,
Mike
(who is replying from his work address since emails from my personal one still 
don’t make it through to the list. These viewpoints are, of course, my own.)

On 30 Nov 2013, at 13:04, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote:

 On 30/11/2013 10:56, Deryck Chan wrote:
 If ubiquity is a primary concern for us, why don't we just give them a
 cash price? (Practicality: Use PayPal or wire transfer if the winner
 does not have a £ bank account)
 
 
 There's also multi-business gift voucher such as bonusbond if enough people 
 really care that much.
 
 KTC
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

[Michael Peel]

On 1 Dec 2013, at 03:01, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 
 On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:01, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:
 
 Actually, I despair of the entire thread. There is all of £20 at stake here. 
 There is every reason to economise on staff time, on this scale. The waste 
 of volunteer time and good will that has been generated is unconscionable. 
 The object of the exercise has been completely forgotten. The objects of the 
 charity hardly enter.
 
 Charles
 
 Absolutely. After 43 emails all we have learned that the mailing list is not 
 a remotely efficient way of deciding how the charity should spend £20.  The 
 staff have plenty to go on, and they should be perfectly able to move ahead 
 now without need for any further commentary.  

I disagree with the assertion that this thread has just been discussing an 
amount of £20. That could have been true if it was a thread focused on a single 
prize, but instead this has been talking about the general issue. Depending on 
how many vouchers WMUK purchases for competition prizes over the coming years, 
then that could easily amount to well in excess of £1,000. There’s also the 
intangible financial benefits from competition advertising, which is difficult 
to quantify. I think it’s useful to see the range of viewpoints here, and if 
there are people subscribed that have different viewpoints than those raised 
here then they shouldn’t feel forbidden from airing them here if they want to.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: What next with QRpedia?

[Michael Peel]

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 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
 Date: 13 December 2013 18:12:49 GMT
 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What next with QRpedia?
 
 +1 on the leaflet idea. Sending a leaflet to every museum in the country (all 
 10,000 of them) could be very effective.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 13 Dec 2013, at 17:17, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 I could train a chimp to make QRpedia codes in ten minutes, so training 
 sessions are probably overkill. This is the sort of learning that can be 
 done easily by reading a leaflet or watching a video (there's a nice little 
 project for somebody).
 
 Richard's idea of a template for small museums sounds good - it would help 
 ensure that nobody 'creative' decides that incorporating the Wikipedia logo 
 would be a good idea (which is really the only caveat required for their 
 use).
 
 Cheers
 -- 
 Rexx
 
 
 
 On 13 December 2013 15:45, Richard Symonds 
 richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I think a small leaflet about it would be a great start. Something that 
 museums etc can use to set up their own uses of it without having to 
 involve WMUK at all. A How-to guide.
 
 Perhaps we could also come up with templates etc for labels that small 
 museums can use.
 
 Richard Symonds
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 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control 
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 On 13 December 2013 15:31, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 We are now dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's on QRpedia. The next 
 question is how do we make sure the community benefits from it? Do we need 
 training, events etc? We have already started a FAQ page to help those who 
 want to use it but is there more we can do?
 
 Can we get some ideas going?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Gov + CC = a marriage of convenience?

[Michael Peel]

On 26 Dec 2013, at 18:11, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 You may have got the wrong end of the stick on this one. Releasing on the OGL 
 is optional, though does appear to be a modern default for many government 
 agents.
 
 Material released as Crown Copyright cannot be uploaded until expired (50 
 years) but it can be worth checking if the Agent is prepared to confirm that 
 the OGL also applies, it is not automatic and is not equivalent.

Ah, it appears that I misunderstood the OGL and thought that it applied to all 
Crown Copyright works, which led to me passing the wrong end of the stick to 
Robin. Mea culpa, and apologies! It does seem that it’s necessary for 
organisations to explicitly release Crown Copyright works under the OGL, which 
I didn’t realise. I’ve started an enwp article on the OGL to better understand 
it, at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence
Would anyone be interested in helping expand this?

However, the wales.gov.uk copyright statement 
(http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/copyright/?skip=1lang=en) does talk about the OGL, 
although they don’t link to it or make it clear which version they are using. 
So it does look like the OGL applies to Cadw images released on that site…

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Coalition Project Co-ordinator opportunity

[Michael Peel]

(Re-sending from my work address as emails from my personal address still don’t 
get through to this list. :-( )

On 17 Jan 2014, at 17:18, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Hi Stevie,
 
 That’s the first I’ve heard about it - has anything been posted about this 
 before on the wiki or the mailing list? Why are you choosing to hire someone 
 rather than to seek volunteers to do some of this work?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 17 Jan 2014, at 17:14, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 As you may know, Wikimedia UK has been working with other organisations such 
 as Creative Commons, Mozilla and Open Knowledge Foundation to build closer 
 working relationships and collaborations between organisations working in 
 the open space. We're currently calling this the open coalition.
 
 The work has progressed to the point where we are looking to recruit someone 
 for a six month project to develop this more fully. There's a role profile 
 and full details on the Wikimedia UK wiki here - 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Open_Coalition_Project_Co-ordinator 
 
 The closing date for the position is Monday 3 February. Please do apply or, 
 if not applying, please tell your friends!
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
 Stevie
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Changes to the Wikimedia UK homepage

[Michael Peel]

Thanks Stevie, but I’m afraid that this is a rather evasive response, and your 
reason for not sharing detail isn’t a good one. Talking about things before 
they happen tends to reduce the number of unforeseen circumstances that might 
arise, as those circumstances can be better foreseen and potentially planned 
around when you have different viewpoints available. I assume that there is a 
*very* good reason for why this bit of news is being kept so secretively!

I’ve put my feedback on the main page on-wiki at:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#Feedback_on_the_Main_Page

Thanks,
Mike

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 One of our volunteers has been working on an interesting project, about which 
 a blog post is being published tomorrow. If all goes as we hope it will be 
 shared widely on social media, leading to a substantial increase in traffic.
 
 I don't want to go into too much detail as experience has shown me that 
 sometimes things don't work the way we hope due to unforeseen circumstances. 
 But I'm very optimistic.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Stevie
 
 
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  Care to explain?
 
 +1. If there's a good reason for the secrecy/lack of transparency, it
 would be nice for members to have a clue as to why it is needed.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] No Sanity Clause?

[Michael Peel]

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:18, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 As the nomination says, there’s no FOP in France, so pictures of modern 
 buildings in France can’t go on Commons without clear permission… I’m not 
 sure whether that should be an embarrassment for Commons or for the MEPs… ;-)
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:11, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote:
 
 All join in now, ... Head - Desk. Head - Desk. Head - Desk.
 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:European_Parliament,_Strasbourg
 
 
 You have to be glad that MEPs are not that-likely to click through to images 
 with deletion templates, and then onto this embarrassment.
 
 Can someone reason with these Commoners? Please?
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] No Sanity Clause?

[Michael Peel]

On 10 Feb 2014, at 16:27, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote:

 I have here, still pinned to my jacket, a bright-yellow press accreditation 
 card from the EU Parliament. That, quite clearly, and within the guidelines 
 issued to us, covers permission to film, take photos, etc, etc both inside 
 and outside the European Parliament.

Send a copy of it to OTRS?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK slide scanner

[Michael Peel]

On 15 Feb 2014, at 20:43, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 February 2014 20:24, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
 
 Perhaps it would be worth WMUK thinking about purchasing such equipment, 
 either to be made available in the office (which would then require travel 
 costs, or postal costs and volunteer time in the office to scan posted 
 material in), or to be sent around to interested volunteers?
 Of course, both purchase and maintenance costs should be thought about here, 
 both for the machine itself and for the equipment that’s needed to interface 
 with it, and also insurance costs... Depending on demand and durability, 
 that may or may not make this cost-effective.
 Or maybe there are renting-on-demand options available for equivalent, more 
 recent, equipment that can do the job?
 (It’s not a white elephant so long as the up-front costs turn out to be 
 worthwhile, given that it shouldn't cost much to recycle it if it breaks…)
 
 
 Hmm. Do we have any vague ideas on numbers?
 
 * How often do we get a reasonable chance at a cache of unscanned negatives?
 * How many smaller museums or archives would have unscanned film to
 offer in such a case?
 * How many people with private collections of negatives that they've
 never gotten around to scanning (e.g., me) would suddenly have a huge
 pile of stuff to donate to Commons just given the opportunity?

Really, the important questions here are: who has collections that would 
benefit Wikimedia and need scanning, and who has the time to scan and upload 
them? It shouldn’t really be a question about equipment cost beyond the 
cost-effectiveness of scanning and sharing them.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] File detion and UK Freedom of panaorama

[Michael Peel]

Hi Andy,

That rationale makes sense, unless the image was of something more permanent, 
or of something that's still there with no expectations of being removed? Is 
there an enwp article here?

Thanks,
Mike

On 17 Feb 2014, at 20:42, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 Photographers active in the UK may be interested in this successful
 deletion proposal:
 
  
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Horse_at_Water_-_Marble_Arch.JPG
 
 made on the basis that the sculpture was not permanent, but
 temporary. It was commissioned for Daylesford in Gloucestershire, but
 at first stood in 2009 temporarily in London. There is no freedom of
 panorama in England for temporary sculptures and therefore the license
 is invalid.
 
 I intend to call for undeletion.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Community consultation on WMUK's Wikimedia in Residence programme

[Michael Peel]

On 6 Mar 2014, at 16:30, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 As a chapter we have run the Wikimedian in Residence (WIR) programme since 
 May 2012, when Andrew Gray started his residency at the British Library. 

You've missed out a couple of years of history there - British Museum, Derby, 
ARKive...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Community consultation on WMUK's Wikimedia in Residence programme

[Michael Peel]

On 6 Mar 2014, at 16:37, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:

 
 On 6 Mar 2014, at 16:30, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 As a chapter we have run the Wikimedian in Residence (WIR) programme since 
 May 2012, when Andrew Gray started his residency at the British Library. 
 
 You've missed out a couple of years of history there - British Museum, Derby, 
 ARKive...

As promised to Richard offlist, I've just gone through the survey and filled it 
in. There were a number of questions that were rather odd in their phrasing or 
allowed answers though. For example:

Question 2: these were all very general questions (e.g. asking about the 
lengths of WiRs and their benefits to the community) that could only be 
answered 'Not at all', 'Moderately' and 'Completely'. I went for 'moderately' 
for all of these as there wasn't really anything to completely disagree or 
agree with here - e.g. length of residencies, it's not clear whether saying 
'Completely' would indicate support of 3-month or 1-year residencies.

Questions 5 and 6: these are nearly impossible to answer as a 'select 3' 
question. Having a ranked answer here would be much more effective.

I was also expecting to see more questions on topics like 'what are the most 
important aspects and outcomes of a successful WiR project?', 'how would you 
like to be involved in future WiR projects?' and 'how can WiR projects better 
engage volunteers?'.

My main suggestion would be: please share drafts of surveys like this on-wiki 
and ask for feedback on them before starting to ask for answers to them! WMUK's 
membership survey is a really good example of how such surveys can be 
collaboratively designed and carried out.

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Letter to MEPs on copyright

[Michael Peel]

Hi Stevie,

Thanks from me also for sharing this. Some points:

# The images you are using all appear to be copyright violations - not the best 
move! Why not attribute the images, or link to where they're available on 
Commons or elsewhere? For the image not covered by FoP, why not do something 
like the photos in 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Censored_by_lack_of_FOP ?
# I'm never sure about how orphan works should relate to free licenses. I'm 
sure that a number of my CC licensed photos could now be claimed by others to 
be orphan works as people have taken them from Wikipedia and reused them 
without attribution. I'd actually suggest removing this point completely unless 
you can explain how it might work in this sort of case or better nuance the 
text here.
# As can be seen in this article won't work once you print the letter out!
# What does it mean by 'on your group of MEPs'? Aren't you addressing them 
individually with this? Are you meaning UK MEPs?
# If you want the MEPs to read through to the end, then I'd recommend 
condensing it down to two sides (and print it double-sided) so that they only 
have to flip the page over rather than flip through pages. Also, you only need 
the disclaimer on the first page rather than all three.
# I still don't understand why 'start-ups' are mentioned here (as I asked at 
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Talk:Free_Knowledge_Advocacy_Group_EU_statement_of_intent#Query
 but with no reply).
# I agree with Fæ's points below.

Thanks,
Mike

On 14 Mar 2014, at 17:54, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for letting people know that the UK chapter is sending this letter.
 
 It is a shame that so few Wikimedians in the UK have contributed to
 the process, I think it is correct to say that even after counting
 employees and trustees, the number is fewer than could be counted on
 the fingers of one hand.
 
 I am assuming that the UK charity is open to receiving feedback,
 though your email here, nor your equivalent notice on the UK wiki does
 not invite comment. My apologies if my assumption is unfounded, please
 ignore the following points if that is the case.
 
 Three points:
 1.
 I note that the letter appears to state that the Free Knowledge
 Advocacy Group EU is a UK charity, it might be an idea to get the
 prose slightly more specific.
 
 2.
 The lead paragraph states We are the UK based charity that supports
 and promotes Wikipedia and its sister websites such as Wikimedia
 Commons. This is quite different from the WMUK Mission as recently
 approved by the board of trustees which does not mention Wikipedia or
 Commons. I suggest that in an official letter of this type, that the
 charity is described as accurately as possible, even in a plain
 English summary.
 
 3.
 Were I the recipient I would be unclear if in emailing back, I were
 responding to the WMUK charity or the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group
 EU. The Royal we used throughout the letter is more than a little
 confusing as it is signed by the CEO of possibly either (or both) of
 WMUK and the Advocacy Group and correspondence email is a different
 personal address. Is the letter intended to be from the UK charity or
 the group of organizations in the Advocacy Group?
 
 Good luck with the letter. I'm sure that Jon Davies' practical
 experience in the world of politics will prove useful if any MEP would
 benefit from a follow-up, such as a discussion over lunch.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Invite - Recognising Value and the Sharing Economy

[Michael Peel]

On 18 Mar 2014, at 13:33, Edward Saperia e...@wikimanialondon.org wrote:

 I'd be very keen to see a dedicated technical community manager as a paid 
 role, who would mostly spend their time going to London tech events and 
 representing the movement.

That would be really bad on multiple levels - two obvious ones being that staff 
should be 'supporting' not 'representing' the movement, and such work really 
shouldn't be London-centric.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Interested in a potential hook-up with a sci-fi film festival?

[Michael Peel]

On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:01, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Perhaps something to be taken offlist with those interested, so we don't 
 break any confidences?

Or keep things on-list/on-wiki for transparency?

I'd be potentially interested in helping do something here.

With the August SciFi conference in London - I know one of the organising 
committee for that, and previously put them in touch with Ed/James/Saad to see 
if anything could be done. I'm not sure whether the page on the Wikimania wiki 
is related to that contact, or if it's an independent activity. If it is 
separate, then I'd be happy to provide another introduction here...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Zürich Hackathon scholarships

[Michael Peel]

Erm, no, it is standard (good) practice!

Mike

 On 31 Mar 2014, at 12:28, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 It is not standard practice for a list of attendees to Wikimedia conferences 
 to be published. It is up to the individuals in question whether they want it 
 be known publicly that they are attending or have attended a particular 
 Wikimedia conference. That any particular individual attendance are funded by 
 Wikimedia UK or for that matter the Wikimedia Foundation rather than 
 privately does not affect that.
 
 Like other Wikimedia conferences, there is an unofficial list on the 
 conference pages where participates are able to publicly indicate their 
 planned attendance. In addition, all scholarship recipients agrees to produce 
 a public report afterwards summarising the key things they have taken from 
 the event. 
 
 
 On 27 March 2014 14:58, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 March 2014 14:50, Katie Chan katie.c...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
  There were two valid applications, which we are both funding.
 
 Where is the list going to be published?
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Summer student

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I'm testing the idea of having a summer student here at my university who would 
contribute to Wikipedia articles on physics/astronomy as a way of learning how 
to write scientific publications (since there's such a good analogy between the 
two). A possible issue is that they would get some sort of subsistence pay from 
the university for the 6 weeks of the project, which may mean that the project 
is a non-starter. I've asked about this on the enwp village pump - if you have 
views on this, then I'd appreciate you sharing them on-wiki at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Summer_students

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BritishBlackMusic.com

[Michael Peel]

This strikes me as an excuse rather than a reason. Fæ's questions/points here 
don't seem to have been answered. :-(

Thanks,
Mike

On 31 Mar 2014, at 08:10, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Apologies for delay in replying but I have been away.
 
 As previously stated our relationship as a chapter in this isntance is with 
 Kwaku as a volunteer.
 
 We organised an editathon last year with BTWSC/BBM as you know. Not funding 
 was involved.
 
 And for those who may be interested my 'private' email was at the request of 
 Kwaku asking Fae to contact him directly to have any questions answered and 
 including his contact details.
 
 
 
 On 27 March 2014 14:12, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 After a week of silence on basic questions, in response to a different
 volunteer, the UK chapter has confirmed that it is supporting the
 BritishBlackMusic.com event in Ghana with money and official
 merchandising. The precise amount has not been specified.[1] It was
 not clear to me that the event was in Ghana rather than the UK, until
 another volunteer found an Eventbrite page with details. This was
 apparently unknown to the UK Chapter as no mention was made of it when
 promoting the event.[3]
 
 In the light of the fact that Kwaku is making public presentations
 officially supported by Wikimedia UK, I have raised Kwaku's COI issues
 on the English Wikipedia noticeboard so that he can be advised by
 project volunteers as to policy and best practice.[2] Since creating
 his account on the English Wikipedia ten months ago, Kwaku has made a
 total of 10 edits with several others being deleted, apparently due to
 them promoting his organization, some remaining edits promote his
 writing for Billboard.[4]
 
 Kwaku was funded by Wikimedia UK last year with a full scholarship for
 a weekend in Berlin to take part in a Wikimedia Conference, the amount
 of the charity's money this cost has not been made public.
 
 With regard to Jon Davies' email to this thread that BBM are supported
 by Lottery Funding, this appears an exaggeration of the facts. I have
 had a response from the Brent Archives, a named 2006 project partner,
 who confirmed the project happened but were unable to produce a
 report; they took no responsibility for the funds. After an interim
 reply, am waiting on a full response from the Heritage Lottery Fund
 (HLF). A HLF project was funded 8 years ago in 2006 with BTWSC named
 as running the project, intended to produce a guide. There is no
 evidence of any lottery funding for BTWSC since that date, the BBM
 appears to have never been the recipient of lottery funding.
 
 No evidence has been found that BTWSC or BBM are registered
 organizations, consequently it is unlikely that financial accounts
 have ever been published or put on record.
 
 Note, I was privately emailed by Jon Davies a few days ago but no
 additional information was provided at that time.
 
 Link
 1. 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Water_coolerdiff=54770oldid=54768
 2. http://www.lottery.culture.gov.uk/GrantDetails.aspx?ID=YH-05-01416DBID=HM
 3. 
 http://web.archive.org/web/20140327135842/http://www.eventbrite.com/e/talking-wikipedia-in-ghana-tickets-10971368659?aff=es2
 4. 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboardcurid=8634849diff=601495199oldid=601426585
 
 On 20 March 2014 13:18, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 20 March 2014 11:49, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 20 March 2014 11:31, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
  We felt that they were a suitable partner for an editathon.
  ...
 
  I have checked with Companies House. There are no registered companies
  that relate to:
  * British Black Music (run by Kwaku)
  * BtWsc or MusicWrite Plus (run by K Kaywrite)
 
  I have confirmed with the Department for Culture Media  Sport, that
  eight years ago (2006) a lottery grant of £35,000 was paid for the
  Brent Black Music History Project. This project was in partnership
  with Brent Archives. It is not yet clear which legal organization
  received the funds, was responsible for reporting on the project
  outcomes or publishing financial accounts for the monies. As an unpaid
  volunteer for Wikimedia UK with no authority, I have written to Brent
  Archives and the Heritage Lottery Fund for confirmation and any
  available reports.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian-in-Residence summit

[Michael Peel]

Hi Jon,

I'm confused - how can it be a 'small internal meeting' that also includes 
people that aren't 'internal' to the WMUK office? And why, if it's an internal 
meeting, did it take place on a weekend necessitating staff to give up their 
Saturday?

Thanks,
Mike

On 7 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Good morning everybody,
 
 Daria and I are puzzled as to why a small internal meeting gained the status 
 of a 'summit'!It was part of the analysis we are doing particularly with 
 regard to the UK sponsored WiR posts and one of a series of processes. It 
 involved people who had been paid by WMUK or closely involved in that 
 proocess looking at the particular issues that brings up. 
 
 We fully expect Andy and everyone to be involved through the consultation and 
 in particular we are planning a day event (it was provisionally May 24 but we 
 are not sure of the date yet, it is likely to slip into June).  This will be 
 up on the wiki as soon as we know and everyone will be welcome. Andy's 
 experience will be very relevant.
 
 Jon
 
 PS Can I thank Jonathan and Daria and everyone else who gave up their 
 Saturday.
 
 
 
 On 7 April 2014 03:02, Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org wrote:
 What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to 
 verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists 
 to which I am subscribed.
 
 The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach 
 Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on 
 the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity 
 related to analysing the data from this survey [2].
 
 This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the 
 line?
 
 Chris
 
 
 [1] 
 https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_UK_is_running_a_survey_of_its_WIR_programme
 [2] 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer_to_help_us_with_the_Wikimedian_in_Residence_survey_-_interesting_opportunity.21
 
 
 
 On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote:
 
 As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first
 Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the
 Wikipedian-in-Residence summit, which was apparently held by WMUK
 yesterday.
 
 I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event 
 listing.
 
 
 
 [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian-in-Residence summit

[Michael Peel]

On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Bar liam.
 
 Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.

That depends on what you mean by 'conjunction with'. He was certainly 'liaising 
with', and it was an achievement that WMUK had an important role in at the time 
and should at least view as WMUK-supported (WMUK/I introduced Liam to the 
British Museum when he was in the UK, which started the whole ball rolling).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian-in-Residence summit

[Michael Peel]

On 7 Apr 2014, at 16:21, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:

 On 7 April 2014 16:08, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:
 
 On 7 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  On 7 April 2014 13:11, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Bar liam.
 
  Liam was the first WiiR, but not, I understand, in conjunction with WMUK.
 
 That depends on what you mean by 'conjunction with'. He was certainly 
 'liaising with', and it was an achievement that WMUK had an important role in 
 at the time and should at least view as WMUK-supported (WMUK/I introduced 
 Liam to the British Museum when he was in the UK, which started the whole 
 ball rolling).
  
 If you can reference that, it can go in 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_in_residence
 
 which might be a better place to sort out the early history - conflict of 
 interest permitting, of course.

Referencing is tricky - the best reference for WMUK's involvement would 
probably be pages like:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Backstage_Pass
and I'm not sure WMUK's wiki counts as a reliable source. ;-) Some of the 
history's never been recorded. Either way, I have a COI so couldn't add this - 
the same as I can't edit the Editathon article to talk about the 
conception/first ever editathon under that name back in 2011 at the British 
Library...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Armenian wiki video

[Michael Peel]

On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
 With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
 and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
 frank discussion on essential changes the charity needed and still
 needs from leaking out in my emails.
 
 
 This list has members of the charity and non members. Hence, it cannot
 be used to discuss the registered charity (Wikimedia UK), since that
 could only be done by members only to have any validity.

I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. Of course it can be used by non-members to 
discuss the charity. What sort of validity are you referring to?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next strategy plan-Paid editing)

[Michael Peel]

Forwarding per Fæ's request...

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com
 Subject: Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimedia-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our 
 next strategy plan-Paid editing)
 Date: 17 April 2014 10:09:14 BST
 To: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
 
 Hi Mike, could you repost this for me? Apparently I'm now banned from
 the UK list.
 
 Fae
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 From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com
 Date: 17 April 2014 10:01
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimedia-l] Rating Wikimedia content
 (was Our next strategy plan-Paid editing)
 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 
 
 It runs on WMFlabs, so by default the code is open, for simplicity I
 have posted the code at
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/code/TARDIS.py. It is
 fairly simply written in Python, but a bit quick and dirty as usual.
 
 Fae
 
 On 17 April 2014 09:54, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 That looks a very interesting tool.  Definitely worth adding to the wiki 
 page as related work that we could potentially make use of (if you permit, 
 Fae; the source code is not open is it?)
 
 Michael
 
 Have a play with
 http://tools.wmflabs.org/faebot/cgi-bin/TARDIS.py?file=TARDIS.jpgcategory=TARDIS,
 it would not be hard to adapt into reports.
 
 This gave a way of solving arguments in Commons Deletion Requests by
 comparing a file's size and pixel resolution to others in similar
 categories. There was no easy way of doing this on-wiki. Knowing that
 a file is in the top 25% even by this crude measure, suddenly makes it
 appear more valuable, while a doubtful file in the bottom 10% seems a
 good candidate for deletion if it is a marginal out of scope case.
 
 Setting hard measures for size or resolution is not always
 meaningful. Many small images may have educational use and have no
 higher resolution equivalent, though in my size comparison report
 (off-line) I do have a version that plucks out the smallest images in
 a category and passes them back as a re-paste-able gallery for review.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

[Michael Peel]

I think I might have been the person that switched this list from per-email to 
digest moderator emails - the list was certainly getting quite a bit of spam 
back when I was a list admin, and I doubt the situation has improved since then.

I would support Fæ being taken off moderation here, but it was because of Fæ 
that I had to stop being a list admin. :-/ So I would ask whether his current 
emails support people contributing, or if they put others off contributing... 
(I should probably ask the same about my own emails at the moment, sadly.)

Thanks,
Mike

On 27 Apr 2014, at 21:27, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 David, perhaps (unless the list gets large volumes of spam? In which case it 
 would be impractical) you could set it to email the list admins when an email 
 is received, rather than just once a day when there are pending emails.
 
 Or you and Fae could come to an agreement whereby Fae's could be taken of 
 moderation? 
 
 I'll just note that I had not received Fae's email via wikimediauk-l when I 
 checked my emails this morning, which is why I forwarded it for him, and this 
 is precisely the sort of nonsense that puts people off contributing - we 
 can't even just congratulate Joe on being interviewed by Radio 4 without a 
 row about list moderation. 
  
 Harry Mitchell
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 On Sunday, 27 April 2014, 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the
  email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time
  it was published to the list?
 
 
 The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended
 to some time after that.
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Our own dear Johnbod

[Michael Peel]

Jon, I think you're a week behind with reading the signpost, and meant to link 
to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-23/WikiProject_report
...

Thanks,
Mike

On 1 May 2014, at 16:38, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 To the altar—Catholicism
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Test

[Michael Peel]

This is a test message to see if my email from this address gets through to the 
list or not. If it does, then yay my problem with posting to this list is 
fixed, and please accept my apologies for the spam. If it doesn't, then how did 
you get hold of this message?!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Test

[Michael Peel]

Oh, cool, this came straight through. :-) I no longer need to use my work 
address to send emails to this list - yay. :-) Apologies again for the spam!

Thanks,
Mike

On 8 May 2014, at 21:12, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 This is a test message to see if my email from this address gets through to 
 the list or not. If it does, then yay my problem with posting to this list is 
 fixed, and please accept my apologies for the spam. If it doesn't, then how 
 did you get hold of this message?!
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A charter for our volunteer committees?

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

It's good to see the role of the WMUK committees being focused on - thank you 
Michael for starting this.

However, I think it's a real shame that the committees are becoming much more 
advisory than they were supposed to be when they were originally envisaged and 
created just a few years ago. The charter here basically gives the committee no 
powers whatsoever. Compare it with the proposal I posted in 2012 at:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/General_Committee_Charter
which was aimed at giving the committees some amount of delegated power to 
decide what would or wouldn't happen. Instead, now we're seeing committees that 
may or may not be able to give input to staff members (depending on whether 
staff members decide if they want to consult the committees or not). The power 
balance is very much on the side of the staff, who hold individual viewpoints 
(which are generally very good and worth listening to - but they are individual 
viewpoints) rather than viewpoints balanced across a spectrum of views (which 
is what a committee can provide). It's also worth remembering that the staff 
were hired to support the community rather than the other way around...

If the priorities could be flipped here, and the committees are given the 
direct ability to give recommendations to the WMUK board or to make some level 
of budget decisions, then I think it's useful to continue to have the 
committees. If not, then I would ask why the committees exist here...

Thanks,
Mike

On 7 May 2014, at 15:20, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have raised some quick comments on the talk page, including a
 question about the title volunteer committees as other recognized
 committees not listed in the document are by definition composed and
 driven by volunteers.
 
 The document gives the impression that only committees without any
 delegated powers are volunteer committees, which seems odd phrasing.
 
 PS please allow for the fact that date on my email may be up to a day
 earlier than the actual posted date.
 
 Fae
 
 On 7 May 2014 15:07, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 I have made a proposal for discussion. See the Engine Room:
 
 The following resolution was approved by the Wikimedia UK board in December
 2013:
 
 [We should] redefine the role and purpose of the non-board committees to
 give them greater prominence, and if need be re-constitute and re-vitalise
 them with greater volunteer input to drive forward programmes. At present,
 the roles and memberships of non-board committees are somewhat unclear, and
 that has led to atrophy and lack of focus. Board/committee communication
 needs to be improved, and better board support for the committees’ work is
 needed. We would hope and expect that this will result in considerably
 greater community involvement.
 
 I have put up a draft charter for discussion at Volunteer committees, and
 would like to hear what everyone thinks. Insofar as it's possible for a
 charter to re-vitalise our committees (bearing in mind it's only people not
 policy that can ultimate do that), is this a move in the right sort of
 direction?
 
 Michael
 
 Link:
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Tools for identifying Wikimedians at press events, etc

[Michael Peel]

On 15 May 2014, at 20:50, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 15 May 2014 12:29, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 
 Andy, you mentioned that business cards were promised.  So far as I can
 recall, nothing along these lines has been brought to the board for at least
 a year.  Although I’m aware there were some discussions before then, which I
 believe may have been somewhat contentious (I’m not sure, as it was before
 my time)
 
 It was discussed, on- and then off- list, in August 2012. I'm sure Jon
 D or Richard S will be able to provide you with copies of relevant
 mails we were told then that the issue was that a mistake has been
 made and replacement would be with us within a week.

It's also worth reading through the emails in the board and office list 
archives about this issue for additional context. In particular, there was an 
issue with volunteers unexpectedly being given cards that gave them named 
positions rather than clearly saying they were volunteers, which gave rise to 
the question of whether WMUK was legally responsible for the actions of those 
handing out the cards. My understanding is that this issue can be surmounted by 
careful wording on the cards, but this topic should be carefully considered 
(probably by the board given the history here) before more such cards are 
produced.

In general, the use of the Wikipedia logo on such merchandise should be checked 
against the trademark agreement that WMUK has with the WMF, and also whether it 
opens WMUK up to legal action based on the actions of the volunteers holding 
such merchandise...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Non-renewal of Wikimedia UK fundraiser agreement

[Michael Peel]

I believe she leaves at the end of this month.

Thanks,
Mike

On 21 May 2014, at 16:13, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 Yes, I think that was probably her very last decision.
 
 Michael
 
 On 21 May 2014, at 15:11, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 21 May 2014 14:39, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 Taken as a whole, it is clearly part of Sue Gardner's agenda to get rid of
 chapters - or at least reduce them to impotence. She has never been able to
 accept that chapters can often do jobs better than a centralised WMF.
 Despite the hollow words she has uttered over the years, when it comes to
 practical matters, she makes decisions based on increasing her own little
 empire at WMF to the detriment of those working for the Wikimedia movement
 throughout the rest of the world.
 
 
 Um, you do know she just left?
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK soon move to an employee controlled website

[Michael Peel]

On 10 Jun 2014, at 17:12, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 We have smartened it up already through the support of UK Wikipedians but it 
 has its limits.

This is the bit I don't understand. What does the current proposal do that 
*can't* be done on the wiki? Why do we *have* to have these non-editable pages? 
If it's just visual content, then that can be done on the wikis fairly 
straightforwardly *. If it's to add technical features (e.g. in-line contact 
forms etc.), then I can understand this move - it's analogous to how 
donate.wikimedia.org.uk isn't on-wiki as that uses technical features that the 
wiki can't support. My understanding is it's just the former, though, which is 
why this doesn't make sense to me.

* The exception being the side-bars / page surround, but that's an intrinsic 
part of the Wikimedia/Wikipedia brand identity (it's what people recognise as 
'Wikipedia' beyond the logo) so should really be kept regardless.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK soon move to an employee controlled website

[Michael Peel]

On 10 Jun 2014, at 20:16, Dan Garry (Deskana) djgw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously for the more regular, hardcore WMUK volunteers, the wiki will 
 remain the primary resource, and if someone wants to become a hardcore 
 volunteer then they'll need to deal with that. But for other casual 
 volunteers, having the wiki not be a barrier to entry sounds good to me.

Although there is definitely a barrier for entry onto the wikis, a) that's a 
barrier for editing not reading content (here, I think we're primarily talking 
about trying to make content easier to read and harder to edit/comment 
on/contribute to), and b) one of the main points of WMUK is to help people 
overcome that barrier and start contributing to the Wikimedia projects!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Wikimedian in Residence 2014 review - update

[Michael Peel]

I think this would be more factually accurate:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Wikimedian_in_Residence_2014_reviewdiff=58518oldid=58516

As a general comment: please consider including an executive summary along with 
a review that is this long. It's very difficult to find the key learning points 
/ statistics here.

Thanks,
Mike

On 1 Jul 2014, at 21:49, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 See if this helps any:
 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Wikimedian_in_Residence_2014_reviewdiff=58516oldid=58512
 
 -- 
 Rexx
 
 
 
 On 1 July 2014 20:47, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:
 On 1 July 2014 19:22, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 On 1 July 2014 18:45, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
 
  I agree that other projects should be considered,
  as useful background if nothing else
 
 Quite.
 
  but quibbling over details of the past isn't going to
  help the discussion move forward for the benefit
  of the *future* of these projects.
 
 I do not believe that reiterating my objection to past good work, by
 me and others, being written out of the chapter's history is
 quibbling, much less over details.
 
 Hmm, I recall an earlier thread on this list which was pretty much devoted to 
 contention over how the history of Wikipedians in residence got written. This 
 thread is intended to help a staff member do her job.
 
 It would be a shame, certainly, if WiRs became one of those don't bring that 
 up again topics. 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Wikimedian in Residence 2014 review - update

[Michael Peel]

Please don't make personal attacks. :-(

Mike

On 1 Jul 2014, at 21:55, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, please don't be a tit.
 
 On 1 Jul 2014 20:39, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 On 1 July 2014 20:12, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  All of you stop this.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Wikimedian in Residence 2014 review - update

[Michael Peel]

On 1 Jul 2014, at 22:11, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:

 On 1 July 2014 21:57, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 I think this would be more factually accurate:
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Wikimedian_in_Residence_2014_reviewdiff=58518oldid=58516
 
 Maybe. Isn't that the point I asked about on a previous occasion?  
 
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012066.html
 
 As you said there, Some of the history's never been recorded. So, editing 
 it into a report? 
 
 
 You may well think this is more factually accurate, and who knows, you may be 
 right. Does seem to be fighting the battles of a previous war, though, with a 
 source of iffy reliability. Not quite sure who this proxy war is against. 
 Frankly, there are reporting requirements on chapters, and so significant 
 matters should be documented. 

... and that's a good example of why I now have zero motivation to comment on 
anything that WMUK does nowadays. I should really have said publicly 
recorded. I just want to see what actually happened just a few years being 
properly described. But it feels like a battle to do that - so why should I 
bother?

(Please don't disregard my comment about tl;dr...)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

[Michael Peel]

Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not be 
increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
other staff members who can help with the administration work;
3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with the 
implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long run, 
despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on evaluation of 
its effect;
4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors to 
the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any plans 
to do anything along these lines any time soon,

how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest in 
volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?

Thanks,
Mike

On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
 support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
 working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
 involved with donor stewardship.
 
 If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
 deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
 
 Regards,
 Richard Nevell
 
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 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
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 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

[Michael Peel]

Hi Harry,

That may sadly be true now that we have a lot of staff members, but 
historically that wasn't the case - I know that I volunteered a lot of my time 
to work on this sort of work, I know that Seddon also did so. I personally 
found the work I did very much more rewarding than I would have found going out 
on the high street with a coin collection box, given the cost:benefit ratio, 
and I'd hope that others would feel the same.

Thanks,
Mike

On 20 Jul 2014, at 00:33, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Mike, on your point 4, I don't think you'll realistically find volunteers who 
 want to do this sort of back-end work (and there are probably good reasons - 
 eg data protection - for it to be done by staff). 
 
 I don't feel strongly enough to comment on nay of your other points, 
 especially not at this time of night, but I'm certainly not going to oppose 
 more volunteer support!
  
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 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2014, 0:07
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 Assistant
 
 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,
 
 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:
 
 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
 any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not 
 be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
 fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
 misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
 other staff members who can help with the administration work;
 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with 
 the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long 
 run, despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on 
 evaluation of its effect;
 4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
 5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors 
 to the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any 
 plans to do anything along these lines any time soon,
 
 how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest 
 in volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
  support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
  working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
  involved with donor stewardship.
  
  If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
  deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
  
  Regards,
  Richard Nevell
  
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  Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
  Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
  United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
  movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
  operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
  Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

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 standard. 
 
 I can't pre-empt Trustee discussion and decision making about staffing 
 capacity, budgetary resources and volunteer led fundraising (I privately have 
 concerns that the latter though the most in line with our mission and indeed, 
 what I'm used to in the university sector, requires more staff support than 
 we currently have - but that is a point we could debate) but it would 
 certainly inform their thinking and mine if people gave their thoughts on 
 ways volunteers can lead fundraising either here or in the August survey.
 
 Final thought - I apologise that the staffing advert went out without a 
 better explanation like this first - I think I was a bit wrapped up in the 
 report process and I see now it's important to explain things too. Happy to 
 keep discussing here or on wiki as required.
 
 
 Katherine Bavage 
 Fundraising Manager 
 Wikimedia UK
 +44 20 7065 0752
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 On 21 July 2014 10:25, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Good morning Mike, (and Charles and Harry),
 
 Answers in-line.
 
 
 On 20 July 2014 00:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,
 
 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:
 
 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
 any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not 
 be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
 fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
 misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
  
 You are completely correct, WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia 
 annual fundraising campaign any more, which means that the number of donors 
 through that method will not be increasing. But we still have a large number 
 of monthly and occasional donors. These need stewarding and their payment 
 monitored and processed, their queries answered and their gift aid 
 'paperwork' dealt with. This is a lot of work -at the backend' and needs to 
 be done professionally if we are to keep these donors, encourage them to 
 increase their donations and make  sure that all the processing is dealt with 
 properly.  
  
 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
 other staff members who can help with the administration work;
 
 
 Katherine's main role will be looking for major fundraising opportunities to 
 enable the chapter to develop further. The FDC funding is fairly static and 
 we need to be able to gain financial support from big trusts and institutions 
 for the ambitious protect, eg. around software development, that we would 
 like to undertake. It is my judgement, and that of the board's that we should 
 offer her temporary support to allow her to use her professional fundraising 
 skills to more effect.
 
 As to the 'many' other staff members.
 
 Discounting the temporary 4 Wikimania staff I wonder where these 'many other 
 staff members' with the capacity to help are?
 Take Stevie off comms and external work?
 Take Jonathan off his GLAM work?
 Take Toni off his Education work?
 Take Katie off volunteer support?
 Take Robin of his work in Wales?
 Take Richard S off his finance work - which has increased dramatically since 
 we were able to manage with a volunteer treasurer?
 Take Daria away from running our programmes?
 That leaves Richard N who is up to his eyes, especially with FDC reporting 
 and managing our civicrm work etc etc..
 
 So we might appear 'many' but in reality we are few and only human and work 
 long hours.
  
 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with 
 the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long 
 run, despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on 
 evaluation of its effect;
 
 You are quite right. The funding is not guaranteed, hence the temporary 
 contract. If we find it helps pay for itself, we are currently undertaking a 
 review of our fundraising ambitions.  The FDC provides roughly two thirds of 
 our funding which means as an independent  charity and chapter we have the 
 flexibility to make local decisions.
 
 4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
 
 If a volunteer comes forward who is willing to commit themselves to this work 
 we would certainly welcome that as an option. In reality, and we know this 
 through our work over Wikimania, we have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] Bring your old broken laptops to Wikimania!

[Michael Peel]

Note that these rules only apply to hand luggage, not to luggage that is 
checked in and stored in the hold. (as far as I can see, and bearing in mind 
that IANAL...)

Thanks,
Mike

On 28 Jul 2014, at 19:59, Ellie Young eyo...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lore...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't know the English word for aguafiestas,
 
 wet blanket
 
 but anyway: in the security checks at the airports, if you can't turn on 
 your laptop, they may confiscate it and you are going to have a bad time. Be 
 careful with that.
 
 Indeed.To be more specific, here are the new rules at the UK airports:
 
 New Security Rules for the UK: A new security crackdown announced recently by 
 the UK
 Government means that all passengers flying INTO or OUT of the UK must ensure 
 all
 electronic devices being carried in hand luggage are sufficiently charged to 
 be turned on. US
 officials ordered some overseas airports with direct flights to the US, 
 including Heathrow and
 Manchester, to step up screening of electronic devices, such as mobile 
 phones, laptops, shavers
 and cameras. Any devices that can't be turned on might be confiscated.
  
 
 
 Patricio
 
 
 2014-07-28 15:18 GMT-03:00 HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com:
 Hi all,
 
 One of our volunteers asked me to put out a call for broken laptops. If you 
 have a broken laptop and you want somebody to help you fix it or you just 
 want to see it recycled, please bring it along to Wikimania!
 
 I imagine lots of us will have broken laptops knocking around, and this 
 could be a great opportunity to bring them back to life or to recycle them 
 properly.
 
 So we have an idea of demand, please email me off-list if you're interested.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19

[Michael Peel]

Hi Jon,

I've left some comments on the talk page. [1]

I found your comment that Wikimedia UK has been inhibited by An Animal Farm 
culture of ‘Volunteers good, staff bad outrageous. That's never been the case, 
as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that we have staff rather than being an 
entirely volunteer-based organisation. Please can you either provide evidence 
to back up your statement here, or apologise for it. 

[1] 
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File_talk:Shaping_our_programme_2014.pdf#Comments_from_Mike

Thanks,
Mike

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 Dear community,
 
 We are now preparing for plans for next year. This is a complicated task with 
 many viewpoints and factors to consider. Your views are an important part of 
 this and I am publishing today a discussion paper with suggestions for how 
 the chapter can develop over the next year and beyond.
 
 You can access it  here 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Shaping_our_programme_2014.pdf
 
 Please comment on the discussion page.
 
 Thanks and hope to see many of you at Wikimania.  
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Shaping our programme 2014-19

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On 6 Aug 2014, at 21:15, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
wrote:

 
 On 6 August 2014 20:42, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 Hi Jon,
 
 I've left some comments on the talk page. [1]
 
 I found your comment that Wikimedia UK has been inhibited by An Animal Farm 
 culture of ‘Volunteers good, staff bad outrageous. That's never been the 
 case, as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that we have staff rather than 
 being an entirely volunteer-based organisation. Please can you either provide 
 evidence to back up your statement here, or apologise for it.
 
 Oh, good, a flame war. With a bit of talent and application, it could be made 
 to last to, what, Sunday evening? (Ex-staff being thin on the ground, perhaps 
 this member of that select group can comment that there is at least something 
 in what Jon is pointing to here.)

I'm not interested in a flame war. I'm after clear evidence or an apology, 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Michael Peel]

Most of what was sent out by post isn't on the wiki...

Thanks,
Mike

On 7 Aug 2014, at 08:27, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 And of course everything is on the wiki
 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2014_Annual_General_Meeting
 
 
 On 7 August 2014 08:24, Chris McKenna chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Have you checked your spam folders?
 
 Its not a bad idea for everyone to add @wikimedia.org.uk to your whitelist to 
 make sure these emails go to your inbox.
 
 On 7 Aug 2014 08:13, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lodewijk,
 
 I think you're not the only one, I haven't received any of the four either.
 
 Dhaval
 
 On 7 Aug 2014 00:11, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 Might it be that for some reason I did not receive those? I do remember 
 seeing email a while ago (checked: 27 June), when things were preliminary 
 etc, but don't recall anything recent with the final agenda etc? And 
 definitely not four. And don't recall a post package either (but living 
 outside the UK that might be an exception). If you could send me the 
 dates/topics/sender I could check my archives and spam though.
 
 Anyway, if it was just me then too bad of course. Apologies if for some 
 reason I overlooked. 
 
 Best,
 Lodewijk
 
 
 2014-08-07 0:02 GMT+01:00 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk:
 Hi Lodewijk,
 
 I've sent four emails and a pack in the post...
 
 On 7 Aug 2014 00:00, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was doubting if it would be worth to miss other sessions (one of which 
 facilitated by me) to join the WMUK agm this weekend, but I couldn't find an 
 email announcing the final agenda with prepared motions etc. I was curious, 
 is such an announcement towards the membership forthcoming, or did I miss 
 something?
 
 I know it is probably somewhere on the wiki, but this kind of information 
 would by me be very much appreciated in a push format rather than pull :) 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

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But the old system we were using on civi worked fine for sending out reminders 
when membership went into grace?

Thanks,
Mike

 On 7 Aug 2014, at 12:51, Chris McKenna chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 A notice about your membership status has been automatically included at the 
 bottom of every newsletter sent out by WMUK in the past 12 months at least. 
 For example the last one I have saved said: Date of end of membership term: 
 2015-10-02 | Your Membership Status: Current (I will check that as I think 
 it should say 2014) 
 
 Jon has already indicated that moving forwards specific emails about 
 membership expiry will be sent as soon as the technology allows.
 
 [please note this message is sent in a person capacity, but my personal email 
 account is down currently]
 
 
 On 7 August 2014 12:26, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 I must say that it is odd that if there is realization that a whole bunch of 
 memberships is about to lapse, nobody sends (even manually) a bunch of 
 reminders out... 
 
 
 2014-08-07 12:10 GMT+01:00 Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk:
 The old system of an alert at the bottom of the monthly newsletter was not 
 fit for purpose.
 
 We will now have a much better system with our new database that w will 
 send proper direct email reminders.
 
 Jon.
 
 
 
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 On 7 August 2014 11:57, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
  Confusion solved, it seems WMUK lapsed my membership without 
  notification.
  So I didn't receive notices as I'm apparently no longer a member.
 
 That's exactly what happened to me.  I would have renewed my WMUK
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New overlaying website is live

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Hi Stevie,

Unsurprisingly, I really don't like it. :-(

But more seriously: it breaches WMUK's privacy policy by giving information 
about visitors to the site directly to Google and Youtube (and also the WMF, 
but that's less of an issue). It also doesn't link to the privacy policy, 
though, so maybe it doesn't apply to this website?

Additionally, you are breaching the terms of the CC-BY-SA-4.0 license by your 
use of my photo at:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/activity/culture/
without attribution, and without linking to the appropriate license. Please fix 
that within the 30 days grace period described in the license text.

Thanks,
Mike

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 Hello everyone, 
 
 I'm very happy to report that Wikimedia UK's new overlay website is live. 
 Just to reiterate that this is intended for people new to our work and 
 encountering us for the first time. Experienced Wikimedians and our community 
 are not the primary audience for this. But I'd like to know what you think, 
 so please do take a look. 
 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/
 
 I expect there are refinements needed and I have spotted a couple myself but 
 on the whole I am happy with it. I hope you like it.
 
 Huge thanks to everyone who helped on this, especially Emmanul Engelhart and 
 Tom Morton for their enormous patience and great skill. 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Expired security certificate

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On 1 Sep 2014, at 08:39, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Not a bad idea. However, I think a decision on that needs to come from staff.
 
 And, also, Emmanuel might need to look at how to do it because it’s his 
 config that manages the current site layout and I don’t want to break it :D

Sounds like that might be due to:
WP admin panel - 'Settings' - 'General' - 'WordPress Address (URL)' and 
'Site Address (URL)'
Change them to 'http' rather than 'https' for now. (I don't think // works in 
these fields)?

(This is one reason why it's better to always enable *both* http and https 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeets in the papers - worth publicising?

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This is definitely a great idea, well done. :-) I think the last time that 
local ads were tried for events was back in 2010 with Britain Loves Wikipedia 
at the Postal Museum and Archive, which worked really well.

Another option is for WMUK to invite local donors to come along to them - I 
think this might have been done before, but I can’t recall whether it was a 
success or not. Perhaps we could give this a go for the Manchester wikimeet on 
the 27th?

Thanks,
Mike

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 I noticed this:
 http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridge-host-Wikipedia-website-8216-Wikimeet/story-22945215-detail/story.html
 
 Just a short local press story noting there's a wikimeet happening.
 
 It strikes me that wikimeets in general might be worth sending press
 releases about. Get interested members of the general public (i.e. our
 readers) along. Thoughts?
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Quirky Wikipedia articles

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Hi Stevie,

If you haven’t yet seen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unusual_articles
then that would be a good place for participants to start from.

Thanks,
Mike

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 Hello everyone. 
 
 As a part of a project that we're developing to participate in the Science 
 Museum Lates event in November, I'm looking for a selection of quirky 
 Wikipedia articles - think Buffalo buffalo (etc) and Toilet paper 
 orientation, those that are odd but still have some academic or scientific 
 merit. Participants in the session will be selecting some of their favourite 
 lines from unusual Wikipedia articles and putting them together to create 
 found poetry. I'm looking for some of the quirkier articles that might be fun 
 for this, so if you have any suggestions please do let me know! 
 
 Thank you,
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Statistics for usage of QRpedia codes

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I’m not the best person to talk to about this - I’m cc’ing wikimediauk-l so 
that the people that are will see this.

Thanks,
Mike

 On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:11, vassia atanassova vassia.atanass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thank you, Fae
 Hope that Doug and Mike will be able and willing to lend us a helping hand :)
 Vassia
 
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 mailto:fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Vassia,
 
 I'm copying in Doug and Mike as they have an interest in governing
 QRpedia development and they may not watch this list.
 
 Cheers,
 Fae
 
 On 22 October 2014 19:33, vassia atanassova vassia.atanass...@gmail.com 
 mailto:vassia.atanass...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello, all! :)
 
  I am Vassia / User:Spiritia from the Bulgarian Wikipedia, and some of you
  have probably heard of our WMF-funded project with Sofia Zoo to place
  QRcodes and contents from Wikimedia on the information boards of all
  exhibited animals.
 
  After Wikimania-London, where I met Roger Bamkin and we spoke about QRpedia
  and the possibilities for statistics of its usage, I tried to contact him
  recently, but got no response. (Roger, hope you're well!) Anyway, I guess
  someone else may also be of help.
 
  My colleagues from the Sofia Zoo are very interested to have some (or any!)
  statistics about the performance of our zoo-located QR codes.
 
  There is a particular occasion for this request. There will be a European
  zoo conference in March 2015, and they would like to report their experience
  with Wikimedia, but back it up with some hard data.
 
  The articles covered with QRpedia codes along this project are listed here:
  http://bit.ly/1r3eKwl http://bit.ly/1r3eKwl
 
  Please, anyone who is able and willing to help, contact me and tell me what
  other information may be needed to complete the research (or instruct us how
  to do it by ourselves?)
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Launch of Open Government Licence 3.0

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This is somewhat sad news; it’s a shame they couldn’t simply adopt a Creative 
Commons license for their works, even though they say that their new license is 
compatible with CC-BY-4.0. :-(

Thanks,
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   http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/970.htm
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Reducing the copyright term for (some) unpublished works

[Michael Peel]

Thanks Andrew - that’s a good start. :-) I’ve added some of my suggested 
answers to some of the questions. I’ve cc’d commons-l who I’m sure will be able 
to suggest better answers that I can…

Thanks,
Mike

 On 23 Nov 2014, at 23:14, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Some initial thoughts at
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2039_consultation 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2039_consultation - comments
 appreciated.
 
 Andrew.
 
 On 7 November 2014 at 17:58, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk 
 mailto:andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The government is currently consulting on reducing the copyright term
 in some unpublished material - this is the 2039 problem that a
 number of institutions have been raising in recent weeks, where
 unpublished works can be in copyright until 2039 despite being
 potentially several centuries old.
 
 https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/reducing-the-duration-of-copyright-in-certain-unpublished-works
 
 This seems like something where WMUK should submit a response (we have
 a pretty clear interest in rationalising the regulations here).
 Deadline is a month away so we've got some time to think about it.
 
 I'm happy to draft up some notes for us to send in if no-one else is
 putting something together - have we been looking at this already?
 
 Andrew.
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Cornelia Parker to create huge Wikipedia-inspired replication of Magna Carta at British Library

[Michael Peel]

This is very cool:
http://www.culture24.org.uk/art/craft/art508130-cornelia-parker-to-create-huge-wikipedia-inspired-replication-of-magna-carta-at-british-library
 
http://www.culture24.org.uk/art/craft/art508130-cornelia-parker-to-create-huge-wikipedia-inspired-replication-of-magna-carta-at-british-library
... hopefully they chose a vandalism-free version of the article to stitch!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [[Category:Media missing infobox template]]

[Michael Peel]

Richard's right. See:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/11/07/cleaning-up-file-metadata-for-humans-and-robots/
 
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/11/07/cleaning-up-file-metadata-for-humans-and-robots/
and links therein for more info.

Thanks,
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 It's for files that don't have 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Information 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Information included on their 
 page. 
 
 As I understand, there is a drive on commons to get this included on all 
 images to help automate attribution etc...
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong!
 
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 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
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 On 7 December 2014 at 11:01, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com 
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 Hello chums,
 
 Why are some of my files on Commons being added to this Category?
 
 [[Category:Media missing infobox template]]
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Apethorpe Hall

[Michael Peel]

English Heritage is apparently running guided tours this summer:
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/daysout/properties/apethorpe-palace/ 
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/daysout/properties/apethorpe-palace/
It's a bit too far for me to get to as a solo day-trip (it's a ~250-mile 
round-trip from Manchester), but if anyone in the Manchester area/en-route 
wants to share petrol costs then I'd be willing to give it a go. But it might 
be a bit easier for London-based people to get to? Or perhaps we could email 
them to ask if they could release some of their images under a free license?

Thanks,
Mike

 On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:12, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Apethorpe Hall in Northamptonshire was in the news recently 
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/11333447/French-baron-saves-crumbling-Jacobean-manor-from-ruin.html
  as it's going to be substantially renovated. At the moment, there are only 
 three pictures of the hall on Commons 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Apethorpe_Hall.
 
 I thought I'd let you all know about it in case it's of interest and someone 
 has any good ideas.
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Restructure and CEO appointment update

[Michael Peel]

The new structure looks good, but it's missing details. Compare it with the 
current structure at:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Template:Staff_hierarchy 
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Template:Staff_hierarchy
In particular, what does 'Project Coordinator' mean in terms of the established 
types of projects? Will they be general purpose, or focused on specific areas 
(GLAM/education/Wales/...?) Why does 'admin support' come under programs rather 
than operations/finance? Also, where do contractors (tech/accountancy) fall in 
this structure?

Thanks,
Mike

 On 12 May 2015, at 13:31, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 
 Statement by D'Arcy Myers, interim chief executive:
 Following on from my statement on 9th March, in which I explained that the 
 board had asked me to undertake a review of the charity's structure, I am now 
 able to give you an update.
 
 The period since March has been one of active review, though out of respect 
 for individual staff and to ensure an objective and fair process we have not 
 been providing a public narrative. I can however now announce that the staff 
 discussions, review, appeal periods and subsequent restructure have just been 
 concluded.
 
 In order to ensure that the charity is best resourced to deliver impactful 
 projects we have made a number of staff role changes, and the total staff 
 headcount has been reduced from 14 to 9. Initially, 8 positions were 
 proposed, but following full discussions with the staff it has been decided 
 that we do actually require 9. The new organogram can be seen at [1]. The 
 staff page [2] will be updated to reflect the new staffing over the next two 
 weeks.
 
 It is always regrettable to have to restructure in a way that loses staff who 
 have contributed much to the charity. We thank the departing staff and wish 
 them all the best. If anyone would like to make personal contact, please note 
 that staff emails and accounts on the UK wiki will continue to be active 
 until month end.
 
 I am confident that with the new structure we can be more responsive to new 
 ideas, bringing volunteering into the heart of our projects, and I would 
 encourage you to get involved.
 
 Another change in the staffing of the charity is the quest to find our new 
 CEO. We are looking for an ambitious CEO who will provide strategic 
 leadership and supportive management to volunteers and staff alike. They will 
 be working to increase our profile and impact with our partners, engage with 
 the volunteer community and develop our programme activity. A major part of 
 this leadership will be the development of new income streams. We have 
 retained the charity recruiters Prospectus to manage the recruitment process. 
 You can view the recruitment pack at [3].
 
 We expect to make an appointment in early July, and until such time as the 
 new CEO is in post and ready to take over I am honoured to be leading the 
 charity.
 
 D'Arcy Myers, interim CEO
 [1] 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_UK_Organisational_Structure_May_2015.pdf
  
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Wikimedia_UK_Organisational_Structure_May_2015.pdf
 [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Staff https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Staff
 [3] http://prospect-us.co.uk/jobs/details/hq00156774 
 http://prospect-us.co.uk/jobs/details/hq00156774 
 For the wiki version of this email, see: 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#CEO_appointment_progress 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room#CEO_appointment_progress
 (Sent on behalf of D'Arcy Myers by Michael Maggs, Chair, Wikimedia UK) 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Restructure and CEO appointment update

[Michael Peel]

 The staff page [2] will be updated to reflect the new staffing over the next 
 two weeks.
 [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Staff

The page seems to be in the process of being updated, see:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Staffdiff=65842oldid=63946

It sounds like Katherine Bavage, Toni Sant, Katie Chan, Jonathan Cardy and 
Fabian Tompsett have been let go, which is really sad news. :-(

(Also: Davina Johnson seems to have become a member of staff rather than a 
contractor? It's not clear what's happened with the tech contractors: they seem 
to have been removed from the page with no clear answer on their future role...)

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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

   tl;dr summary: I'm planning to run a survey about wikimeets in the near 
future. Do you have any comments/suggestions on the draft? See:
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

At a recent meetup, a Wikipedian who was new to wikimeets pointed out that the 
event had the air of a gentleman's club about it. Looking around at the 
high-back comfy chairs, the Victorian-era interior decorations, the pints of 
real ale, and the mostly-male (and regular) attendees, I couldn't really 
disagree with their assessment. This started me thinking: are there better 
venues and times to hold meetups, or better ways of advertising/inviting people 
to planned meetups? What would make them more open and inviting to new editors, 
or the many long-term editors that have never attended a meetup?

As an experiment to try to improve the attendance and advertising of wikimeets 
in the North of England, a few months ago I posted messages on the talk pages 
of previous wikimeet attendees about the last Leeds and Manchester wikimeets, 
and the Liverpool wikimeet coming up this weekend. There was, unexpectedly, a 
pretty good response, with a number of people signing up to attend the 
wikimeets. I'm not sure whether it was a direct consequence or not, but we had 
a long-term editor attend the last Manchester wikimeet who hadn't previously 
attended a wikimeet. I couldn't attend the last Leeds wikimeet: was anyone 
there and able to say whether it made a difference or not? I'm hoping that the 
irregular wikimeet attendees who have signed up for the Liverpool meetup will 
be there!

It also started a longer conversation with Iridescent [1], which led to the 
idea of having some sort of a UK-wide notifications list. During that 
conversation, I started drafting a survey of past and potential wikimeet 
attendees with the aim of getting some quantified and actionable answers about 
how to improve wikimeets, and also improve communication about wikimeets. The 
latest draft of the survey is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

Amongst other things, the survey draft asks about how people get to wikimeets; 
when and where wikimeets should be held; what activities should take place at 
wikimeets; and how notifications about an upcoming meetup would ideally be 
circulated.

I'm hoping to run this survey soon, so if you are interested in improving the 
survey questions then please send me an email or post on the talk page before 
the end of the month! In particular, if you currently organise (or regularly 
attend) wikimeets, then I'd greatly appreciate your input/feedback about the 
survey questions before it goes live. Ideally the survey would be run in 
association with WMUK, but given the recent turmoil I'm not sure if this will 
be possible, so I'll run it myself unless WMUK expresses an interest in helping 
out with it!

Thanks,
Mike

[1] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iridescent/Archive_17#Next_meetups_in_North_England
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Volunteer Strategy Day, 25th July.

[Michael Peel]

Hi Stuart  all,

The AGM has always previously been open to non-members: it's proven to be a 
good way to get new members from amongst the attendees of the surrounding 
event, and there's always been a (running) board meeting prior to the elections 
so that new members could be approved [1]. How come the change to a 
members-only AGM this year?

The AGM also used to take place in the middle of the day/event (normally 
straight after lunch), quite deliberately: it makes it easier for those that 
need to arrive late/leave early in the day to attend it (e.g., for 
long-distance travel); it meant that the AGM was time-limited by the demands of 
the AGM rather than an arbitrary time limit (e.g., the room booking ending); 
and it meant there was plenty of time to count the votes before the day 
finished. It's not clear why this has also changed this year to be at the end 
of an event instead...

Thanks,
Mike

[1] e.g., https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Minutes_8Jun13a

 On 22 Jun 2015, at 15:13, Stuart Prior stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 Gordo,
 
 Sorry, late reply. No, only the Volunteer Strategy bit is open to 
 non-members. To attend the AGM you have to be a member.
 
 Best
 
 Stuart
 
 On 15 June 2015 at 22:07, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com 
 mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 On 15/06/15 14:56, Stuart Prior wrote:
 
  This is open to members and non-members alike.
 
 
 Both events (Volunteer Strategy Day and AGM) we assume?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Deadline for Members' Resolutions

[Michael Peel]

 On 19 Jun 2015, at 16:12, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 The deadline for members' resolutions for this year's AGM is just a week away 
 on 26 June.
 
 See https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2015_Annual_General_Meeting/planning 
 https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2015_Annual_General_Meeting/planning

So the call for member resolutions from the Board is overdue/imminent?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Deadline for Members' Resolutions

[Michael Peel]

 On 19 Jun 2015, at 21:48, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  I don't need to travel to London to have somebody read Report by XYZ to 
  me. YMMV.
 
 There is of course the volunteer strategy day prior to the AGM.

It's scheduled to take place on the same day as the AGM?

 And there will be elections to the Board.

Details to come soon?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Moderation of Fae

[Michael Peel]

(Forwarding from wikimedia-l: Fæ intended to send it to this list. His resent 
email is in the moderation queue...)

 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation of Fae
 Date: 24 May 2015 13:59:34 BST
 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org
 
 It has now been over a year that my email address was put on
 moderation (perhaps someone would like to provide a date, I have not
 trawled the archives). In the absence of any appeal process, I ask
 that this is lifted.
 
 My most recent email to this list has yet to be posted, it has been
 waiting for 9 days. Waiting for several days or over a week is now the
 norm for my rare posts to list. Though not one of my emails has ever
 been rejected from publication, this effectively makes communication
 impossible and amounts to an effective ban after being black-balled.
 
 Based on timing, I was put on moderation apparently due to Russavia's
 incivil posts to Wikimedia-l, not because of any email I have ever
 posted to this list that anyone can provide a link to, nor for any
 reason of incivility on my part. If I am to remain forever on
 moderation I ask that a clear rationale be given so that I can change
 the wording I use in emails to met whatever the list moderators
 believe is needed. At the current time I am completely in the dark as
 nobody will discuss this with me or provide examples.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photo contests (was visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons)

[Michael Peel]

With WLM: I was hoping that this would take place again this year, particularly 
since it's been so successful in the past. Perhaps it could focus on quality 
photos rather than quantity if we have reasonably comprehensive coverage of 
listed structures now? Or perhaps we could think of a new topic for such a 
photography competition - perhaps we could focus on statues, new buildings, 
ships, or something else? I guess it depends on what else might have a 
standardised listing available. I'd be interested in volunteering to help, 
particularly with the on-wiki infrastructure side of things, but I definitely 
wouldn't be able to take a lead.

With requested photos: thanks WSC for the offer! I'd be happy to adopt the 
Greater Manchester county, and to do my best to photograph the requested 
locations if they don't already have available photographs.

Thanks,
Mike

 On 12 Aug 2015, at 16:32, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have been going through the not particularly useful category Wikipedia 
 requested photographs in the United Kingdom 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_Kingdom
  removing some that are done, doing a few either via commons or by importing 
 them from the Geograph, and most importantly moving a lot of them down to the 
 much more useful level of nation or in England to County.
 
 So if you fancy taking a few photos and putting them  on Wikipedia  we 
 probably have some current requests near you!
 
 Anyone fancy adopting a county? First couple to call for help I will go 
 through the requests for that county next week and pick off any I can import 
 from the Geograph, which should make it a bit more practical to do the rest 
 (offer excludes London, Scotland and Wales due to them being too big).
 
 Regards
 
 Jonathan
 
 On 12 August 2015 at 10:45, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 mailto:stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Hello Edward, everyone,
 
 If there's a volunteer willing to take the lead on Monuments then we can 
 offer a little logistical support. However, the volunteers that delivered it 
 last year said it was an enormous amount of work and don't have the time. If 
 you would like to lead on it then we can help, although time is very short at 
 this point.
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
 Stevie
 
 On 12 August 2015 at 10:35, Ed Hand edwar...@gmail.com 
 mailto:edwar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are we taking part in Wiki Loves Monuments this year?
 No mention of the UK here:
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries
  
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries
 
 best wsihes
 Edward
 
 On 10 August 2015 at 16:43, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com 
 mailto:werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have now used the visual editor for more than a hundred edits since the 
 speed up. I agree that the classic editor is generally faster and I suspect 
 that will be especially true for anyone editing large articles as V/E's still 
 lacks section editing.
 
 I like the way V/E supports infobox editing, one of the things I sometimes do 
 is add images to articles and with the classic editor you usually have the 
 pain of having to check the template documentation to find out what the 
 parameters are for image and caption (sadly and for no obvious reason these 
 parameters are unlikely to be image and caption). V/E is actually quite 
 intuitive here in allowing you to run through the unused parameters of the 
 infobox.
 
 Table editing is more nuanced, on the one hand there are handy looking 
 options that come up inviting you to delete or add columns or rows and I'm 
 sure at some point I will find an opportunity to use them. But editing the 
 contents of a cell in a table is challenging, not a task I would suggest to a 
 newbie and far less intuitive than using the classic editor.
 
 Adding images from commons is really quite impressive in V/E, I haven't yet 
 been in the situation of having to work out which Newcastle V/E is prompting 
 me with and it would be good to know whether V/E is using wiki data links, 
 keywords, geocodes or some combination. But however it does it the images it 
 has prompted me with so far have been pretty good.
 
 Not sure between Joe and Andy's positions re showing diffs. I have had very 
 little to do with the education program, but I appreciate for educators 
 knowing how to look at the contributions of a student is important. I think 
 that V/E would be a better entry point for technophobes whilst clearly the 
 classic editor is better for the technoscenti. How you recruit one or other 
 group for an editathon without stereotyping is an interesting conundrum. If 
 you have access to a large mailing list of people who might be interested 
 then you could do two sorts of sessions, one emphasising that this was 
 Wikipedia editing for anyone, especially people who 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

Thanks for your comments! And sorry for the delay in moving this forward. I 
think it's now pretty much finalised, so if anyone has any last comments please 
let me know. The latest version is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey#Survey

In response to a couple of the points raised:

 On 14 May 2015, at 07:55, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:
 
 This sounds a very worthwhile exercise and subject to comments by D'Arcy and 
 the staff team I think it's very likely that this could be done association 
 with WMUK.  No doubt the bulk of the work in preparing the survey and 
 analysing the results would be done by a group of volunteers, with you 
 leading (volunteers in front, as it should be!).  Do you have an idea of what 
 resources you'd like from the charity?  Perhaps WMUK could use its volunteer 
 and member database to broaden the reach of the survey by distributing it by 
 email?


Thanks! The resources I'm hoping WMUK can provide are:
- Access to survey software to run the survey (e.g., surveymonkey);
- Oversight to make sure that the survey data is kept confidential and deleted 
after the results have been compiled;
- Distribution through its volunteer/membership database.
I'll email D'Arcy and Richard to see if this is possible, and to start 
preparing the survey to be run.

 On 18 May 2015, at 12:12, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:
 
 I had one comment, about audience(s). There are people who attend meetups, 
 and people who might. There are those who organise them, and again those who 
 might. Some division up of questions accordingly could be helpful.

There are questions about how many wikimeets people have attended, and I've 
also added one about whether they've organised one. I'm not sure that we want 
to ask each group different questions; I think this is where cross-correlations 
between the different answers might provide useful insights.

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikidata training

[Michael Peel]

 On 3 Aug 2015, at 16:31, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 
 We can host this at Wikimedia UK to keep costs down.

That's not the only way to keep costs down - please also think about looking 
for donated venues outside of London! A more central location might mean that 
more volunteers can attend more easily, and without the expense of traveling 
into central London.

(I'd be interested in this, but I can't justify the ~£80 it would cost me to 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

[Michael Peel]

Hi Fabian/Leutha,

It would need some sort of working group arrangement, whether that's a 
wikiproject or otherwise. The crucial factors are identifying who is interested 
in helping with this type of project, and making sure that the relevant 
stakeholders from the other charities/groups are also included.

I can help with this, but I really don't have the time to take a lead to make 
this happen. Would anyone be interested in volunteering to lead this?

Thanks,
Mike

> On 13 Oct 2015, at 21:56, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> 
> This sounds like a great idea, let's do it. I am not sure that a  WIkiproject 
>  work for this. Is there a better 
> way to approach things?
>  
> all the best
>  
> Fabian
> aka Leutha
> 
> > Rather than running our own events for new internet users, how about 
> > providing leaflets to 'Get Online' events that walk people through how to 
> > find information and multimedia on Wikipedia and its sister projects, and 
> > how to determine whether to trust it? If, of course, that's something that 
> > event attendees and organisers would find useful. This is something that 
> > could easily be done in cooperation with other charities/groups that have 
> > more experience than WMUK/Wikimedians at onlining people, to make sure they 
> > contain the most relevant information in the most accessible way possible. 
> > 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK website certificate

[Michael Peel]

I no longer get the warning message when I try to access wikimedia.org.uk - so 
it looks like it's fixed! Well done Tom!

Thanks,
Mike

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:54, Thomas Morton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John.
> 
> SO I think I might have nailed it... anyone care to independently test?
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 at 13:45 John Mark Vandenberg  wrote:
> Thomas, you might like to try using pywikibot to access the uk chapter wiki 
> ... ?
> 
> That is how I encountered the cert problem, and it fails fairly reliably on 
> Python 2.7.5 unix.
> 
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/246213/
> 
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Thomas Morton 
>  wrote:
> Okay I am at a loss now.
> 
> I have re-installed, refreshed, hacked around with the certificate chains and 
> cannot get any different result.
> 
> As it is, I cannot emulate the issue in any reliable form :( (except for 
> once, briefly)
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 at 13:16 Richard Symonds 
>  wrote:
> Gordo - sadly we don't have the budget or time to upgrade to Phabricator. 
> Given how few of us use our installation anyway, it would be a fair amount of 
> work for not a lot of gain. Perhaps in future when there's more time 
> available!
> 
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
> Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
> 
> On 16 October 2015 at 13:07, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> On 15/10/15 23:53, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
> > So I create an account, but the confirmation email doesnt arrive...
> 
> 
> I am slightly surprised that this is with Bugzilla at all.
> 
> And not with Phabricator?
> 
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
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> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/versus_Bugzilla
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New Chief Executive starts today

[Michael Peel]

> On 9 Oct 2015, at 15:57, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> 
> On 09/10/15 15:56, Gordon Joly wrote:
>> That's probably a job for User:A.N.Other ... (editing Apples and Pears
>> article)...
> 
> OOPS. Don't trust me to edit anything!
> 
> "Apples and Snakes"

To avoid potential future problems: Lucy, please read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest
rather than trying to edit that article!

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[Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I've just discovered that this week is 'Get Online Week', see:
http://getonlineweek.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Online_Week

It's too late for this week, but for next year perhaps we should think about 
offering some sort of 'intro to Wikipedia' courses? Probably more 'how to read' 
rather than 'how to edit', given the target group here.

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Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

It's worth remembering that editathons weren't originally intended to recruit 
new editors - they were aimed at bringing together experienced editors with 
knowledgable people (e.g. museum creators) to improve Wikipedia articles using 
the knowledge of both groups. The change to focus on new editors came along 
later (although I'm not sure exactly when!).

Rather than running our own events for new internet users, how about providing 
leaflets to 'Get Online' events that walk people through how to find 
information and multimedia on Wikipedia and its sister projects, and how to 
determine whether to trust it? If, of course, that's something that event 
attendees and organisers would find useful. This is something that could easily 
be done in cooperation with other charities/groups that have more experience 
than WMUK/Wikimedians at onlining people, to make sure they contain the most 
relevant information in the most accessible way possible.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Smoking is less addictive ;)

[Michael Peel]

Hi Lester,

I've made a few formatting tweaks, and removed the warning banner, you can see 
the changes at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weston-Sub-Edge=revision=681033688=681031791

The bullet point list / references that you've added to the name section should 
be formatted using the syntax described at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#How_to_place_an_inline_citation_using_ref_tags

Can you change the list to use this formatting method, and move the references 
to where you're using them in the text?

Thanks,
Mike

> On 14 Sep 2015, at 20:25, Lester Caine  wrote:
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> I need a little help on styling this better. I've a growing number of
> citations, but I know it still needs some more. I have some history to
> add to the Industrial Estate which dates form the 2nd world war when it
> was part of the airfield. And I think I've actually tracked down the
> source of the name confusion, but not sure if that is 'original research'.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I'll be closing the survey shortly, so if you want to fill it in but haven't 
yet, then please do so today!

Thanks,
Mike

> On 20 Sep 2015, at 18:32, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> The survey is now live at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

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Hi all,

The survey is now live at:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD 
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