Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Meetups

2008-12-14 Thread Michael Peel
A London central page already seems to exist at http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London . There's also a rather old page on Meta for this, at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Future_UK_meetups . Perhaps these three should all be merged together, to avoid too much wikibureaucracy?

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Michael Shilliday
I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now. It may be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, but the voting members don't necessarily need to be. There may be a hugely

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-14 Thread John Reaves
Will this be available online anywhere (either as a live stream or archived)? On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:31 AM, David Gerard wrote: > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) > > > - d. > > _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:31 PM, David Gerard wrote: > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) Apparently the image is on the the deluxe boxed set sold everywhere, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trance

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-14 Thread KillerChihuahua
Lemme know when its on youtube so I can give it a listen. :-D David Gerard wrote: > It's now mainstream. IWF representative to be present. I look forward > to dropping in the line "Wikipedia smells of hammers." ([[Brass Eye]]) > > > - d. > > ___ > WikiE

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [ORG-discuss] Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet Watch Foundation

2008-12-14 Thread Owen Blacker
It would seem that the IWF has backed down: http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.251.htm And Virgin Media have removed their block, at least. I can now see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer , including the image. -- Owen Blacker, London GB Say no to ID cards: www.no2id.net Get your mits off m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/1 Michael Shilliday : > I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? > Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now. It may > be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, > but the voting members don't necessar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 1, 12:37 pm, "Michael Shilliday" wrote: > I have never commented here before, but why the need for a physical AGM? >  Incorporated companies have been having online AGMs for years now.  It may > be necessary for a small group of people to be sitting in a room together, > but the voting memb

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
> I hope we can find some way of > involving people remotely in the meeting as well - perhaps through a > videocam - does anyone know what Wikimania does for this? If such AV equipment is available at the chosen venue, we could try and live stream video of the meeting (I think that would dependant

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it > gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to > know each other more that you can with an online meeting. For an AGM, a meeting in person may be appropriate, for all the social

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Location of AGM

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/14 David Gerard : > 2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > >> There are advantages in having in person meetings as well, though - it >> gives us an opportunity to discuss things more informally and get to >> know each other more that you can with an online meeting. > > > For an AGM, a meeting in person ma

[Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
I just wanted to hear everyone's views about the role Wiki UK Ltd played in responding to the IWF issues. The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were encouraged to do what they could but the Board decided to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get > involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were > encouraged to do what they could but the Board decided to stay stum > itself and leave David and others to take the lead. Is everyone >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/14 AndrewRT : > I just wanted to hear everyone's views about the role Wiki UK Ltd > played in responding to the IWF issues. > > The general consensus among the Board was that we shouldn't really get > involved as we didn't yet have chapter status. Individuals were > encouraged to do what th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread Andrew Cates
I would not have bothered to vote if I did not feel the board in some way represented the community of which I am part. There is an organization where I am a member for pragmatic reasons but hate every proclamation they make (the AA: I want breakdown cover, not rabid pro-polluting lobbying), but f

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - large number of online participants

2008-12-14 Thread jonathan cardy
Meetings with a large number of online or teleconferencing participants are practical, provided those in the aether are receiving but not sending (except maybe one at a time - for example Email the chair in advance if you want to pose a question and have the chair dial you in when your slot come

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM - large number of online participants

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/14 jonathan cardy : > Meetings with a large number of online or teleconferencing participants are > practical, provided those in the aether are receiving but not sending (except > maybe one at a time - for example Email the chair in advance if you want to > pose a question and have the c

[Wikimediauk-l] AGM - Agenda

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 14, 10:01 pm, "Thomas Dalton" wrote: > ... I would hope WMUK AGMs will be more than > just the membership quizing the board and will actually involve the > membership having a say in how the charity is run (and not just by > getting to vote for the board). Which opens another question: wh

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread AndrewRT
On Dec 14, 9:32 pm, "Andrew Cates" wrote: > ... for this kind of thing I think you > should feel we want you to speak and we'll let you know if we > disagree. Even before we're officially a WMF chapter? Andrew ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF issues and Wiki UK Ltd

2008-12-14 Thread Andrew Cates
In my view yes. The WMF's legitimate role in representing the community is equally derived from its (semi) democratic nature. You do not derive your right to speak only from their democratic legitimacy but also from your own. You will not be able to speak on behalf of them (unless specifically man