Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-07

2017-08-08 Thread Pine W
It seems that two messages were sent which should have covered July: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-August/088550.html https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-August/088578.html Pine On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:54 PM, wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Audiences Q4 FY1617 Quarterly Check-In slides & notes

2017-08-07 Thread Pine W
Grace, thanks for publishing these. I have a few questions and comments. 1. I have no questions regarding the first slide deck, and I found that it was informative for me. 2. Regarding the second slide deck: 2a. I like the Causegraph visualization 2b. I like the chart on page page 24 that

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikisource-l] An it.source gadget to manage diacritics

2017-08-03 Thread Pine W
I haven't tried this, but it sounds like translators and Language Engineering folks might be interested. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Brollo Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:10 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] An it.source gadget to manage diacritics To:

[Wikitech-l] Wikiscan statistics tool for Wikimedia projects

2017-07-30 Thread Pine W
Wikiscan is an interesting tool for statistics fans. I suggest briefly reading this IEG page , then playing with the tool on https://wikiscan.org/ Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Last Call: ArchCom/TechCom Charter

2017-07-29 Thread Pine W
> Staff doesn't have that choice - > unless, as you said, they quit. Sure, that's always an options, but not really > comparable. I don't think that being paid well in exchange for being unhappy, especially if someone is highly stressed or miserable most days, is a good deal. If someone feels

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [AI] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team

2017-07-19 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron Halfaker Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:42 AM Subject: [AI] Announcement of the Scoring Platform team To: Wikimedia Mailing List , Application of Artificial

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018

2017-07-13 Thread Pine W
Hi folks, Do you think that the implementation discussion should move to Phabricator? Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] [fellowship] Opportunity for people working on "open projects that support a healthy Internet."

2017-07-10 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Melody Kramer Date: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:26 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] [fellowship] Opportunity for people working on "open projects that support a healthy Internet." To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018

2017-07-07 Thread Pine W
Thanks very much for the detailed comments, Subbu. And thanks to the folks who are working on tools to help automate the necessary changes. It sounds like there's cooperative effort and careful planning that hopefully will make the Tidy to RemexHTML process a smooth one. Pine

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018

2017-07-06 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the information. I understand that moving from HTML 4 to HTML 5 is probably a good idea. However, I am concerned about this statement: "This will require editors to fix pages and templates to address wikitext patterns that behave differently with RemexHTML". As you probably know, the

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan FY2017-2018

2017-07-03 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Katherine Maher Date: Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan FY2017-2018 To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Mailing List <

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Changes to Product and Technology departments at the Foundation

2017-06-12 Thread Pine W
James: thanks for asking; I'm copying that question to the Wikitech list. While we're on that topic, what's happening to multimedia? I believe that at one time there was a multimedia team, and I could understand how pairing multimedia with maps in the same team could make sense. If multimedia is

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Changes to Product and Technology departments at the Foundation

2017-06-07 Thread Pine W
Hi Toby, Thanks for sharing the reorg information. From my perspective as an outsider, this sounds good. I have a question about the sentences "The biggest change is that all of our work in fiscal year 2017-2018 will be structured and reported in programs instead of teams (you can see how this

[Wikitech-l] Video demos of upcoming changes to edit review / RC patrol

2017-05-28 Thread Pine W
I'd like to highlight two videos (some people may have already seen these) that demo upcoming changes to edit review / RC patrol that take advantage of ORES. I feel that that the changes look promising, and I hope that RC patrollers, Teahouse hosts, newbie adopters, and others will find that the

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia genealogy and historical research software - a proposal for HRE

2017-05-24 Thread Pine W
Perhaps this would interest some Wikidatans and software developers. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Maggs Date: Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:58 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia genealogy and historical research software - a proposal for HRE To:

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedia Tool Developers Group

2017-05-21 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Kirill Lokshin Date: Sun, May 21, 2017 at 5:41 PM Subject: [Affiliates] Recognition of the Wikimedia Tool Developers Group To: Wikimedia Movement Affiliates discussion list <

Re: [Wikitech-l] Two Column Edit Conflict View as a beta feature on all wikis

2017-05-11 Thread Pine W
Thank you for working on this! Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] eqiad->codfw datacenter switchover, weeks of Apr 17th/May 1st

2017-05-05 Thread Pine W
Thanks for publishing the email summaries. This is one of those situations where, contrary to some our perfectionist tendencies (including mine), it's a surprise if everything goes 100% according to plan, and discovering problems through a live-fire exercise is a characteristic of a successful

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension compatibility styles and responsive skins

2017-03-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Isarra, You might try the design@ email list if you don't get a satisfactory reply here within a day or two. Also pinging Quiddity in case he has ideas. HTH, Pine On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Isarra Yos wrote: > Basically: skins style the interface, extensions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Mentorship for Gsoc project

2017-03-26 Thread Pine W
Awesome. Thanks for moving this forward. Pine On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 3:28 PM, zppix e wrote: > I'm willing to just let me know > -Zppix > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Egbe Eugene wrote: > > > > Hi All. > > > >

[Wikitech-l] WMF software dev internship opening for content translation UI

2017-03-24 Thread Pine W
For anyone who's looking for a software dev internship: https://boards.greenhouse.io/wikimedia/jobs/634650 This is advertised as a 20 hours per week position. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Outreach Program project proposal for Summer 2017

2017-03-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Keerthana, I'm glad to see the interest in this proposal. I think that if successful, this project could be beneficial to education program students and instructors, as well as participants in writing campaigns and edit-a-thons. Several people who are following your proposal are well known in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing recitation-bot

2017-03-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Anthony, It sounds like the IP may have been globally blocked, so you'll probably want to have a conversation with a steward. If you think that whatever resulted in a global block has been fixed, I imagine that a steward would be willing to grant you enough permissions to demonstrate that the

[Wikitech-l] Open source JPG algorithm that reduces file size by 35%

2017-03-18 Thread Pine W
Perhaps of interest to Mobile and Performance folks: https://research.googleblog.com/2017/03/announcing-guetzli-new-open-source-jpeg.html Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-15 Thread Pine W
to hear any reason why this can not or should not be done. > > "Rogol" > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Quim, > > > > Thanks for the comments. > > > > A brief note about the goal

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Product draft goals posted on mediawiki

2017-03-15 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Toby Negrin Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 7:50 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Product draft goals posted on mediawiki To: Wikimedia Mailing List Hi everyone -- I wanted to let you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-14 Thread Pine W
Quim, Thanks for the comments. A brief note about the goal of "there are no clashes between product development teams and communities". That is an ambitious goal around here, partly because there are changes planned and happening concurrently in so many places that I think it would be a

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-14 Thread Pine W
Pinging Brendan Campbell regarding this conversation, in light of the discussion about technologies for meetings. Also, a general comment on meetings: I prefer that if there's text conversation, that it stays all in one place and in a channel that is archived by WMF (currently that solution is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc17 Proposal : Adding Data storage feature and upgrading Quiz extension

2017-03-13 Thread Pine W
If I could connect with the mentors and ask if they find me > appropriate for the project.If things move forward I'll like to make or > change my proposal if needed. > > Thanks, > > Harjot Singh > > On 13 March 2017 at 01:09, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-12 Thread Pine W
Venerability policy? That's a new one. Verifiability policy. (Spellcheck is not always a wiki-lawyer's best friend.) Pine On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Speaking generally, guidance can be helpful even if it's not a policy. > English W

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-12 Thread Pine W
Speaking generally, guidance can be helpful even if it's not a policy. English Wikipedia has similar ways of organizing information and how-to guides. Some guidance documents are categorized as essays, some as guidelines, and some as policies. It's worth noting that enforcement is, somewhat

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2017-03-08 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2017-03-12 Thread Pine W
a question. Pine On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Andre Klapper <aklap...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 20:02 -0800, Pine W wrote: > > Aha, that's helpful. Thanks Andre. > > > > Grace, may I request that you include a link to that page in future >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc17 Proposal : Adding Data storage feature and upgrading Quiz extension

2017-03-12 Thread Pine W
Hi Harjot, Thanks for your proposal. I have no authority in the proposal selection process but I thought I should let you know that several people have expressed interest in working on the Quiz extension. While it's good to have so many people interested in that project, I'm hoping to encourage

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2017-03-08 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2017-03-11 Thread Pine W
n Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Andre Klapper <aklap...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 17:25 -0800, Pine W wrote: > > I have a question. Is there a list somewhere of who should be contacted > > with questions about a particular project or team? Some WMF p

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2017-03-08 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2017-03-10 Thread Pine W
Thanks for pushing out these updates, Grace. I have a question. Is there a list somewhere of who should be contacted with questions about a particular project or team? Some WMF people are very good about responding to emails or talk page inquiries, while other people's inboxes seem to be black

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-02

2017-02-28 Thread Pine W
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time>, naturally. :-) > > Dan > > On 1 March 2017 at 00:12, Gergo Tisza <gti...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Argh, I misread that. Median

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-02

2017-02-28 Thread Pine W
Argh, I misread that. Median number of days, not number of bugs. Still seems kind of high. Pine On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm. How is it that we have 17226 bugs in the "Unbreak now" status? > > Pine > > &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-02

2017-02-28 Thread Pine W
Hmm. How is it that we have 17226 bugs in the "Unbreak now" status? Pine On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:00 PM, wrote: > > Hi Community Metrics team, > > This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. > > Accounts created in (2017-02): 283 > Active users

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia is participating in Google Summer of Code 2017. Interested in being a mentor?

2017-02-28 Thread Pine W
Cool. If I may promote some projects that would be nice to go along with the LearnWiki project and improving the new user experience in general: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91655, Editor-focused dashboard gadget, currently "Almost Ready to be Mentored"

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Node 6 in WMF production

2017-02-17 Thread Pine W
I read the blog post. Thanks for the good work. Pine On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Marko Obrovac wrote: > Hello, > > In the second half of January 2017, the version of Node running in WMF > production has been updated from v4 to v6~[1]. Parsoid, RESTBase, AQS and >

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2017-02-15 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2017-02-15 Thread Pine W
I'm happy to see "Starting to work on audio/video support in Parsoid (VE will follow)". Any ETA on this? Links to Phab tickets would be appreciated as well. Thanks, Pine On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Grace Gellerman wrote: >

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Cloud Services: new team, new name, renewed focus

2017-02-07 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Victoria Coleman Date: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:22 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Cloud Services: new team, new name, renewed focus To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello everyone, Starting in April

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Invitation to WMF January 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, January 26, 19:00 UTC

2017-01-19 Thread Pine W
Forwarding from WikimediaAnncounce-l to Wikimedia-l because auto-foward is still not working. Also forwarding to Wikitech-l and MediaWiki-l because the "Reconstructing MediaWiki history" presentation sounds like it may be of interest to some people on those lists. Pine -- Forwarded

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-17 Thread Pine W
<aklap...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2017-01-11 at 11:36 -0800, Pine W wrote: > > I just started getting a lot of these errors when trying to load > > pages on multiple Wikimedia sites. > > If you'd like to report a software bug, Phabricator is the best place: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
AM Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, I need to write one up, I'll try to get it done today or tomorrow. > > > > There won't be much to learn / do as a result, but it needs to be > > documented at the very least. > > > > -Chad > > > > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
rigorous testing in beta & on the production debug servers, the > patch failed. I rolled back within seconds. > > This code is proving rather difficult to clean up :( > > -Chad > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:54 AM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Florian. I'm cu

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
reporting! > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Wikitech-l [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im > Auftrag von Pine W > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2017 20:37 > An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Betreff: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined metho

[Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-11 Thread Pine W
I just started getting a lot of these errors when trying to load pages on multiple Wikimedia sites. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-20 Thread Pine W
wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Quim, > > > > Would it be possible to set up a 60-minute Hangouts or Zoom meeting to > > discuss this set of issues (UX change communications, possibly aided by > th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-19 Thread Pine W
wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The Newsletter extension could be useful in all kind of ways, and I > > was glad to see that it's apparently still in active development. > > > > Oh yes, check https://phabricator.wikim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-16 Thread Pine W
that launched, when might it happen, and who should coordinate and publish it? Pine On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The issue which I am attempting to address i

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#1!)

2016-12-15 Thread Pine W
Forwarding Katherine's email because this may also be of interest to technical audiences and Wikimedia affiliates who don't subscribe to Wikimedia-l. Also including Research-l because the strategy process will likely be influenced by existing research, and may involve new research initiatives.

[Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-15 Thread Pine W
(Now forking this from the "Changes in colors of user interface" thread.) Hi Adam, Thanks for your email. I don't think that our interface evolves particularly rapidly, our interface makes me feel like it's 2003 again. I'd like to have our interface's usability and our workflows be much easier

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
t's from > in-application/services changes and redesigns or from external changes > such as system user interface provided mechanisms without major > impacts to the documentation that i've used. > > On 14 December 2016 at 18:39, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Volker, Thanks very much for your explanation. I hope that I have explained adequately that the difficulty that I see here isn't with the change itself, but rather with communication and consultation. An issue that I'm still trying to wrap my head around is that it's impossible for me (and I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
I have delayed responding to this thread until I felt that I could do with some degree of calmness. I view UI changes that affect millions of pages as a big deal. I realize that from a developer's perspective it may seem trivial to change a color setting. Let me try to illustrate a different

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-09 Thread Pine W
While I appreciate the attempt to be funny, I am not amused in this case. Surprise UI changes could, for example, result in thousands of dollars' worth of instructional videos becoming instantly out of sync with the real-world user experience. Also, users who may have spent considerable time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-09 Thread Pine W
nce by using familiar colors. > It's really hard to see any objections overall. > > Best > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:03 AM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Amir, > > > > Were these changes discussed in advance with Wikimedia communities on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Amir, Were these changes discussed in advance with Wikimedia communities on mailing lists, village pumps, etc? I am thinking particularly of template designers and maintainers, who may have coordinated their work with the previous color scheme. It seems to me that Wikimedians should be given

Re: [Wikitech-l] WikipediaP2P

2016-11-28 Thread Pine W
I'd love to have Wikimedia content not be dependent on WMF servers, but as noted by others, there are a lot of problems to address, including privacy and security issues. At some point I think it might be good to have an office hour or some other kind of meeting about this subject to discuss

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Implementing Katherine's Vision: "Discussing Discussions"

2016-11-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Scott, Thanks for your enthusiasm about making the wikis friendlier places. A few points to bring to your attention: * Patrick Earley in Support & Safety has been researching issues related to harassment for some time. I suggest that you consult him on possible approaches. * I was happy to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-17 Thread Pine W
at 10:00 AM, Tyler Romeo <tylerro...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 1. If you don't trust that strength testing site (which is fine), choose > > another. I did a couple of quick checks on that site; wh

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-17 Thread Pine W
is not available to everyone? Pine On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: > Le 16/11/2016 à 19:19, Pine W a écrit : > > > > (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like > > http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-16 Thread Pine W
In addition to the suggestions from Tim: (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that the tool you use does not send your chosen password over the Internet and instead tests it locally. (1) If you find it difficult to remember strong

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer

2016-11-02 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Katherine Maher Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer To: Wikimedia Mailing List ,

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-10-19 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-10-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, was there an update from the editing team(s) this week? I'm not seeing such an update in the meeting notes, not even a placeholder note that says "X was out this week but will update next week". Perhaps there was an update but it got missed in the meeting notes? If a team is missing an

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata

2016-10-05 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Léa Lacroix" Date: Oct 5, 2016 01:20 Subject: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." < wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Hello folks, An

Re: [Wikitech-l] Timing of ArchCom meetings

2016-10-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Rob, The US Wikimedians schedule our monthly online meetings via Doodle. The habit is that there is a monthly meeting scheduled the same way every month, although the days and times of meetings may vary. This system has its own weaknesses but for our purposes it is working okay. HTH, Pine

[Wikitech-l] Data archiving on nanostructured glass

2016-09-23 Thread Pine W
There are occasional community discussions about how to preserve Wikipedia (and hopefully the sister projects) for a very long time even if there are any of several kinds of global disasters. This archival technology might be of interest:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Issues with image rendering?

2016-09-18 Thread Pine W
I just got this same error for a different file. Have you filed a Phabricator ticket? Pine On Sep 18, 2016 03:56, "Strainu" wrote: > In the last day I've seen quite a few images that throw errors when > trying to view them (for example, [1]). Already-existing thumbnails >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikis back to 1.28.0-wmf.18

2016-09-16 Thread Pine W
Thank you for trying to untangle this web. I'm going to comment on the incident report talk page. Pine On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > On 16/09/16 15:29, Antoine Musso wrote: > >> >> I have pushed 1.28.0-wmf.19 on thursday at 19:10 UTC. It quickly

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata Query Service demo video

2016-09-06 Thread Pine W
Video demo of Wikidata Query Service: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jHoUkj_mKw Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

2016-09-01 Thread Pine W
I like the concept. I wonder, if instead of having a standalone dev summit, it would make sense to have this broadly scoped conference be combined with or adjacent to Wikimania. Pine On Sep 1, 2016 10:12, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > The last couple years we've done a big

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile site is now lazy loading images

2016-08-23 Thread Pine W
Whoops, I missed the link. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Performance/Lazy_loading_images. Thanks for working on this. Pine On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good to hear. Does this also mean that pages load faster? > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile site is now lazy loading images

2016-08-23 Thread Pine W
Good to hear. Does this also mean that pages load faster? Pine On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > FYI after much experimentation, research and testing the mobile site has > been lazy loading images [1] since Thursday 18th August. This means if you > do

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook CTO on strategy, Internet access, Wikipedia

2016-08-18 Thread Pine W
Forwarding, since the subjects may be of interest to people on the Wikitech, AI, and Research lists. I'm unqualified to evaluate Damon's comments and the FB exec's comments about AI, so please refrain from shooting the messenger if these aren't helpful or interesting to those of you who do know

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-08-17 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-08-17 Thread Pine W
e week, it's > not that big a deal and they should provide an update in the next week. > > Best, > > -Toby > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Grace, > > > > There seems to be a few blanks in this rep

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-08-17 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-08-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, There seems to be a few blanks in this report. Admittedly I only read it occasionally, but I would be interested in knowing what's happening in Editing and Collaboration. Is there a way to append that information to this report? Thanks, Pine On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Grace

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incident report: Multiple breakages due to wfLoadExtension() transition

2016-08-12 Thread Pine W
Ok, thanks Greg. Pine On Aug 12, 2016 08:49, "Greg Grossmeier" wrote: > > > > == Conclusions == > > > > > > * Our code review practices are lax, including merging hairy patches > > > without testing and self-merges. > > > > Is there a way to improve how code review is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incident report: Multiple breakages due to wfLoadExtension() transition

2016-08-11 Thread Pine W
Thanks Max. Questions and comments below: > == Casualties == > > * Max's liver. :( > == Conclusions == > > * Our code review practices are lax, including merging hairy patches > without testing and self-merges. Is there a way to improve how code review is done such that appropriate testing

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Programmatically categorizing media in the Commons with Machine Learning

2016-08-11 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Jordan Adler" Date: Aug 11, 2016 13:06 Subject: [Commons-l] Programmatically categorizing media in the Commons with Machine Learning To: "common...@wikimedia.org" Cc: "Ray Sakai"

[Wikitech-l] Conference submissions now open for WikiConference North America

2016-08-01 Thread Pine W
WikiConference North America will take place October 7 through 10 in San Diego. The session tracks are: 1. Community 2. Advocacy & Outreach 3. Technology & Infrastructure 4. Health care and science 5. GLAM 6. Education and Academic Engagement Please submit proposals here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Pine W
"Should we be laying groundwork now to prevent issues decades away?" I'll answer that with "Yes". I could provide some interesting stories about technological and budgetary headaches that result from repeatedly delaying efforts to make legacy software be forwards-compatible. The technical details

[Wikitech-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

2016-07-31 Thread Pine W
Slides that Katherine presented at State of the Map US: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Katherine_Maher%27s_keynote_presentation_at_OSM_State_of_the_Map_US_2016.pdf Video of Katherine's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywGuz1586M0 Slides that Yuri presented at State of the

[Wikitech-l] Microsoft adding research tool to Office

2016-07-26 Thread Pine W
I'm wondering if MS will pull citations from Wikipedia and/or make use of Wikidata. I'm also wondering if this will decrease Wikimedia site traffic in a similar way to how search engine knowledge panels may have decreased Wikimedia site traffic, particularly in this case from users who have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime this Monday!

2016-07-24 Thread Pine W
Thanks for working on a Sunday! Pine On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Chad Horohoe wrote: > Hi! > > So things are back up. Took a tad longer than expected. > > Big caveat: something is up with the Phabricator bridge and it's not > logging > what's up. I'll look at it

[Wikitech-l] How widely is Flow being used?

2016-07-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Wikitech, I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki. Is that correct? Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default? Are there any wikis where

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying the UrlShortener extension to Wikimedia wikis

2016-07-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Legoktm and others, I have a use case for which Wikimedia shortlinks that could be edited (to adapt to the changing locations of intended targets) could be useful. However, http://urlshortener.wmflabs.org/ comes with the disclaimer "DO NOT USE THIS SITE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN TESTING. IT WILL

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] 100k articles written with Content Translation tool

2016-07-18 Thread Pine W
Nice to see. Thank you, Runa and Language Engineering. I like video clip too. Thank you, Victor. Pine On Jul 18, 2016 04:15, "Runa Bhattacharjee" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Our barely 1-year old Content Translation Tool just passed 100,000 > translations < >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update: Upload to Commons Android app

2016-06-21 Thread Pine W
A clarification: Josephine is a grantee, not a volunteer. I've seen situations go both ways, with WMF making decisions that it should leave to the community (such as with MediaViewer) as well as declining to pay for projects that would be worth funding (such as the previous decision to drop

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Individual Engagement Grants program will fund 8 community-led projects

2016-06-18 Thread Pine W
Forwarding good news. Pine On Jun 18, 2016 08:45, "Marti Johnson" wrote: > Hi all, > > > In the latest round of Individual Engagement Grants > , 28 eligible proposals were > submitted for review. The committee recommended 8 for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] ORES live as a beta feature on Wikidata

2016-06-16 Thread Pine W
Lydia and Amir FTW. (There seems to be a pattern of good news from the Wikidata and ORES teams. I wonder if Team Practices could facilitate the replication of some of their methods!) Onward ho, Pine On Jun 16, 2016 10:14, "Lydia Pintscher" wrote: Hey folks :)

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W24 ArchCom RFC meeting (2016-06-15)

2016-06-15 Thread Pine W
I can't attend this meeting, but want to continue to voice support for improving MediaWiki (primarily VE) and Commons ability to accept, manipulate, and display spreadsheets and their kin. Thanks for working on this. Pine On Jun 15, 2016 00:11, "Rob Lanphier" wrote: > Hi

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-06-01 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-06-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, I'd like to request a clarification about RESTBase. These notes say: "* RESTBase ** enforcing rate limits as of today *** pageview: 10 req/s *** transforms: 5 req/s" Can you expand on what kinds of requests these rate limits are limiting? Thanks, Pine On Jun 1, 2016 11:06, "Grace

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
Public data about product quality (in terms of conformance to specs) would be useful, I agree. Especially if the measurements are standardized across products. Pine On May 31, 2016 19:24, "Danny B." <wikipedia.dann...@email.cz> wrote: > > > -- Původní zpráv

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems. Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. Also, does the 256 number include people who use their MediaWiki credentials to log into Phabricator for the first time? Just curious, Pine On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update from the Perf Team

2016-05-28 Thread Pine W
Thank you for the update. FWIW, a page that I load frequently that takes a long time is Commons' featured picture candidates. My guess is that starting with the implementation of HHVM and with smaller improvements thereafter, the page load time had been reduced by more than 50%, which is

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Add Content-Security-Policy header to MediaWiki

2016-05-22 Thread Pine W
With the disclaimer that I'm not a security engineer and that I understand only parts of this proposal, in general this strikes me as a good idea. It seems to me that trying to develop a comprehensive list of what tools / scripts this proposal would likely break, how important those breaks are,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-18 Thread Pine W
Some of this depends on geography. For example, in Washington State, we have significant hydroelectric capacity. (See http://www.eia.gov/state/print.cfm?sid=WA) My understanding is that some data centers are being placed in the far global north to take advantage of cold air or water

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