On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
My understanding of the process was that we would collect a broad set of
arguments/ideas/proposals and people would be later assigned to the task
of evaluating them and proposing a viable solution and a migration
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Ryan Lane wrote:
You've already admitted that you don't use Gerrit, so do you have a
really large stake in this?
Before it was replaced, I used MediaWiki's CodeReview quite a bit. Like most
people, I think I would use
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:43:51 -0700, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Ryan Lane wrote:
You've already admitted that you don't use Gerrit, so do you have a
really large stake in this?
Before it was replaced, I used
Le 27/07/12 04:04, MZMcBride wrote:
snip
It's somewhat ironic that you have a group of people who regularly champion
the virtues of open source software (you can hack the code!) who have
picked a software solution that's (apparently) nearly impossible to modify.
Even eliminating Gerrit's vomit
Daniel Friesen write:
I want whatever review system we use to support real review branches;
- Review sets are heads with multiple commits, not single commits.
- -no-ff merge commits are used so that only the final commit code makes
it directly into master.
We have disallowed branch creation
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:10:52 -0700, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr
wrote:
Daniel Friesen write:
I want whatever review system we use to support real review branches;
- Review sets are heads with multiple commits, not single commits.
- -no-ff merge commits are used so that only the final
Are there any initiatives in the MediaWiki community for a MediaWiki
theme that supports 'responsive design' [1] -- where content is properly
laid out in an accessible form on all manner of devices including
desktops and smart phones?
[1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/responsive-web-design/
On 27 July 2012 11:01, John Elliot j...@jj5.net wrote:
Are there any initiatives in the MediaWiki community for a MediaWiki
theme that supports 'responsive design' [1] -- where content is properly
laid out in an accessible form on all manner of devices including
desktops and smart phones?
Are there any initiatives in the MediaWiki community for a MediaWiki
theme that supports 'responsive design' [1] -- where content is properly
laid out in an accessible form on all manner of devices including
desktops and smart phones?
I am currently working a bit on the skin for
This is one of the aims of the planned 'Athena' skin:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Athena
Pete / the wub
On 27 July 2012 11:01, John Elliot j...@jj5.net wrote:
Are there any initiatives in the MediaWiki community for a MediaWiki
theme that supports 'responsive design' [1] -- where content
On 27 July 2012 12:53, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com wrote:
This is one of the aims of the planned 'Athena' skin:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Athena
Pete / the wub
Very interesting. Looks very good already.
On 27 July 2012 12:01, John Elliot j...@jj5.net wrote:
Are there any
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
As far as people being assigned to the the task of evaluating them, I
think you may be overestimating the number of people we have floating
around to do this work. People is basically Chad, who is pretty burnt
out on
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
So that is definitely doable. It is currently blocked because the
build-in CSS are loaded AFTER the user CSS which is totally dumb but is
definitely an easy fix.
It's not quite as easy as I had hoped, unfortunately.
Antoine Musso wrote:
MZ, Do you even have a labs account? Your continuous rants are far from
being constructive and makes everyone lose their time.
Nope. I looked at getting one once or twice, but the process seemed too
bureaucratic and I ended up walking away. I imagine I'll make one once
The Wikipedia mobile site is being made mobile first using responsive
design techniques. The plan is for it to eventually mature into a
responsive Athena skin that can also be used on desktop.
On Jul 27, 2012 4:24 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 July 2012 12:53, Peter Coombe
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:36:50PM -0700, Rob Lanphier wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Faidon Liambotis
fai...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
My understanding of the process was that we would collect a broad set of
arguments/ideas/proposals and people would be later assigned to the task
of
2012/7/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Thet don't need to read English. They just need to type the letters they
see on the image. Sure, you can have a small advantage if you know what
letters could make a valid English word (or if you have the captcha
dictionary installed), but a
On 07/24/2012 08:09 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Sumana Harihareswara, 24/07/2012 22:47:
Ohloh would sure be a nice resource - I'm not sure how to get it fixed
exactly, but please feel free to poke around, tell Ohloh where our new
repository is, and try to get it fixed. Sorry, it's a low
On Jul 27, 2012 6:58 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Personal dashboards will now be private -- the proper way to query
someone's work is the owner: query in the search box.
As MZ and I found out last night, this is not the case. An owner: search
only finds changes that person
On Jul 27, 2012 7:17 AM, Faidon Liambotis fai...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think GitLab looks promising but I'm unable to judge it against all of
our requirements just from the online demo and without spending some
amount of time on it. I just put some pros and cons as I see them to the
Wiki page
On Jul 27, 2012 1:11 AM, Antoine Musso We have disallowed branch
creation and merging for now, that can
definitely be opened up. Chad recently opened the sandbox reference and
we have a few of them:
remotes/gerrit/sandbox/apramana/gsoc
remotes/gerrit/sandbox/demon/foo-bar
On 2012-07-27 23:52, Jon Robson wrote:
The Wikipedia mobile site is being made mobile first using responsive
design techniques. The plan is for it to eventually mature into a
responsive Athena skin that can also be used on desktop.
Any idea about when the responsive Athena skin might be ready?
On 07/27/2012 11:34 AM, John Elliot wrote:
On 2012-07-27 23:52, Jon Robson wrote:
The Wikipedia mobile site is being made mobile first using responsive
design techniques. The plan is for it to eventually mature into a
responsive Athena skin that can also be used on desktop.
Any idea about
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 27, 2012 1:11 AM, Antoine Musso We have disallowed branch
creation and merging for now, that can
definitely be opened up. Chad recently opened the sandbox reference and
we have a few of them:
On 27 July 2012 16:35, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Please note that this conversation might also be cross-posted to or
continued on our design mailing list:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
Without joining a whole other list, can I just ask what
This would be best answered by Brandon.From a personal point of view if the
mobile site still looks like a mobile site in a desktop browser at the
start of next year I will be somewhat disappointed with myself.
I personally believe that mobile is the likely method for accelerating
athenas
Le 27/07/12 15:42, MZMcBride a écrit :
I don't think it's fair to say that my posts have been unconstructive. I've
tried to present actual problems (such as the lack of an authors list) that
inhibit being able to effectively use Gerrit.
snip
To clarify, I was mostly ranting about the form.
I did mention how Android used a homemade tool to do the reviews. It was
introduced to me by a friend who is doing Android development for mobile
phone companies. At first I was like: what about the existing google
code or github? Then he explained me their pre commit workflow and it
made me
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:42 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Antoine Musso wrote:
MZ, Do you even have a labs account? Your continuous rants are far from
being constructive and makes everyone lose their time.
Nope. I looked at getting one once or twice, but the process seemed too
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:42 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
For what it's worth, I think Ryan makes a compelling case for sticking with
Gerrit (and I'm still not convinced that another switch would do more good
than harm). I'm still deeply worried about the ability to use and improve
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm also worried about the steep learning curve anyone from our community
(myself included) would have in getting set up to improve Gerrit through
writing patches and plugins, though I'll take Chad at his word that it's
Chad wrote:
Also, if anyone tells me that upstream is not active enough, I ask
you to please look at a commit I made 2 days ago[0]. I know it wasn't
earth- shattering, or even really important. What was important, is
that it was reviewed and merged in *less than a minute* without any
action
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
This would be best answered by Brandon.From a personal point of view if the
mobile site still looks like a mobile site in a desktop browser at the
start of next year I will be somewhat disappointed with myself.
+1
I
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think our best mitigation strategy is to do as good a job as we possibly
can integrating Gerrit with GitHub, combined with other improvements to
Gerrit.
One thing I don't think has been explicitly said yet, although
I wanted to get in a couple responses to Daniel, as well as try to
make sure the conversation doesn't die. Obviously having a lead person
in the OAuth2 process leave may effect what we want to implement. Or
may spawn a new standard in the near future. But I hope we can still
move ahead with laying
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think our best mitigation strategy is to do as good a job as we possibly
can integrating Gerrit with GitHub, combined with other
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. The main reason I've been holding off on doing
the
replication yet is that the replication system was split off to a plugin
for
2.5, so I was pretty much waiting on 2.5 to land so I didn't have to set it
up
twice. Once we've got 2.5 running, this will become a *top*
Forgot the link...
[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/ZczND3xgtaw
Sorry about that,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
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I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if this
feature would be implemented. Who will decide what captcha language is
used?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. The main reason I've been holding off on doing
the
replication yet is that the replication system was split off to a plugin
for
2.5, so I was pretty much waiting on 2.5 to land so I
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
This would be best answered by Brandon.From a personal point of view if the
mobile site still looks like a mobile site in a desktop browser at the
start of next year I will be somewhat disappointed with myself.
I,
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I realize this is all hand-wavy and stuff, but as Brion pointed out, it's
all git. With some thought behind the design, a two-way integration
Maybe present three or four different capcha's with different scripts,
requiring only one to be filled out?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed
On 27.07.2012, 22:09 Yury wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if this
feature would be implemented. Who will
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:59:30 -0700, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I wanted to get in a couple responses to Daniel, as well as try to
make sure the conversation doesn't die. Obviously having a lead person
in the OAuth2 process leave may effect what we want to implement. Or
may
2012/7/28 Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com:
On 27.07.2012, 22:09 Yury wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if
On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:04 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Rob Lanphier wrote:
A few of us are planning to meet Monday afternoon to figure out exactly
what the rest of the process looks like, so that first deadline is going to
be very important for understanding how many options we're
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Gerrit has templating support so basic CSS changes are not difficult
and require no pushes to upstream Gerrit. Delta one strange thing in that the
load order of the cascade in Gerrit is… wrong. My arguments with
Are you a Brandon plant trying to get us to resource Athena again? :-)
On Jul 27, 2012, at 3:01 AM, John Elliot j...@jj5.net wrote:
Are there any initiatives in the MediaWiki community for a MediaWiki
theme that supports 'responsive design' [1] -- where content is properly
laid out in an
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:59:30 -0700, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I think I understand what your saying about that, and that's one way
it could be done. I had also given some thought to extending the
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:03:34 -0700, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Friesen
li...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:59:30 -0700, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I think I understand what your saying about that, and
On 27/07/12 16:31, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
2012/7/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Thet don't need to read English. They just need to type the letters they
see on the image. Sure, you can have a small advantage if you know what
letters could make a valid English word (or if you
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