[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation IEG program will fund 14 community-led projects

2015-12-04 Thread Pine W
Forwarding good news for a wide variety of domains including GLAM, research, education, maps, language tools, outreach, and more. Pine On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Marti Johnson wrote: > Hi all, > > In the latest round of Individual Engagement Grants >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-09 Thread Pine W
Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in the near future. I notice that https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ shows nothing under "Awaiting code review". Is anyone working on this? If not, what kind of nudge would be necessary to get some resources devot

Re: [Wikitech-l] Appreciation thread, 2015

2015-12-10 Thread Pine W
I could name a lot of individuals. I'll name these in particular: Peaceray, Bluerasberry, Siko, Rory, and the now-departed Gayle and Philippe. I'm grateful for them. Pine On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > It's been a while since we had one of these, and 2015 has been a v

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interactive graphs & charts are now live

2015-12-15 Thread Pine W
Nice graphs (: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > The tag has just been upgraded to Vega 2.0, adding interactivity > support. See live examples here > . > > Vega 1.0 is still available, but it is obsolete. Please migra

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

2015-12-16 Thread Pine W
Thank you Danny & Company! Pine On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: > No one asked for 10 more wishes? :) > > Thanks Danny and the Community Tech team. This is a great model for working > with our Communities. > > -Toby > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Nirzar Pangarkar < >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

2015-12-16 Thread Pine W
line. > > On 9 December 2015 at 22:14, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi, just checking to see if CAPTCHA improvements are likely anytime in > the > > near future. I notice that > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/225/ shows nothing under > > "Awaitin

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word

2015-12-22 Thread Pine W
Following up on this thread: 1. I'm continuing to find that VE's table editor is a significant improvement over the Wikitext editor for typical tasks. I'm looking forward to the day when I can copy and paste formatted spreadsheet data from places like Google Sheets, ODS, and Excel into VE and have

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

2015-12-30 Thread Pine W
Excellent. Can I create a full-detail 3D model of the Millennium Falcon? (: Pine On Dec 30, 2015 22:37, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > I just finished writing a tutorial on how to build interactive Vega graphs > for Wikipedia. And yes, we could build video games this way too :) > > https://www.mediaw

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

2015-12-30 Thread Pine W
The tutorial looks nice! I will take a look when I am less distracted by finance reports. Thank you for working on this. Pine On Dec 30, 2015 22:37, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > I just finished writing a tutorial on how to build interactive Vega graphs > for Wikipedia. And yes, we could build video

Re: [Wikitech-l] New tutorial for interactive graphics on Wiki

2016-01-01 Thread Pine W
hould be marked for translation. > > On 31 December 2015 at 08:38, Pine W wrote: > > > The tutorial looks nice! I will take a look when I am less distracted by > > finance reports. Thank you for working on this. > > > > Pine > > On Dec 30, 2015 22:37, "Yuri As

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Thank yous and video recordings for the Wikipedia 15 joint celebrations (SF, NYC, and Seattle)

2016-01-16 Thread Pine W
Forwarding video links (: -- Forwarded message -- From: Pine W Date: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:43 PM Subject: Thank yous and video recordings for the Wikipedia 15 joint celebrations (SF, NYC, and Seattle) To: Video links to Youtube (Commons uploads will happen in the near future

Re: [Wikitech-l] Meeting scribes for WMF meetings

2016-01-19 Thread Pine W
Just want to note that I believe that Community Resources and L&E use interns for this purpose. You can probably contact Siko or Rosemary to learn more. Pine On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi folks, > > One thing we'd love to get better at is taking and publishing usefu

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Status report #1

2016-01-20 Thread Pine W
Thanks Danny, it's nice to see these initiatives being analyzed and options for them being considered actively. Pine On Jan 20, 2016 5:37 PM, "Danny Horn" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We've posted the Community Tech team's first status report on our progress > with the Community Wishlist Survey, an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2016-01-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, Is there, or will there be, a page somewhere that describes the outcomes of the Developer Summit? Thanks! Pine On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > The Winter break took longer than expected. Busy times! > > You can help develop the next summary. > > *Developer Relations

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor deployment to 1000+ users: who wants the feedback?

2016-01-29 Thread Pine W
I think the Editing team would be interested in this! Pinging James Forrester. I am glad to see the interest in tables. Table editing is much easier in VE than in wikitext and I'd love to see additional table editing functionality in VE, including the ability to import tables from spreadsheet appl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Guillaume Lederrey to the WMF

2016-02-01 Thread Pine W
Sounds like a good hire. Welcome! Pine On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Alangi Derick wrote: > Welcome Guillaume Lederrey to WMF. > Regards > Alangi Derick Ndimnain > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: > > I am pleased to announce that Guillaume Lederrey joins WMF this week

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2016-02-02 Thread Pine W
nform the creation of these goals in WMF Q4 and in the WMF 16-17 Annual Plan. Thanks, Pine On Feb 2, 2016 6:41 AM, "Rob Lanphier" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Is there, or will there be, a page somewhere that describes the outcomes &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wiki-research-l] ReplayEdits tool gets a shout-out in NYT

2016-02-02 Thread Pine W
Cool. Forwarding this email. Pine On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > Yesterday, 2013 IEG grantee Jeph Paul started seeing 1000s of hits on his > (grant-funded, volunteer-maintained) ReplayEdits tool which visually > replays edit histories of Wikipedia articles. > > Here's

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Fwd: February 2016 Lightning Talks

2016-02-15 Thread Pine W
lk speakers. > > [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks#February_2016 > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Pine W wrote: > >> Boldly forwarding* in case others would like to view or present a >> lightning talk. I plan to give a lightn

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Inspire Campaign on content curation & review launches today!

2016-02-29 Thread Pine W
Forwarding the campaign announcement, and ideas from Aaron Halfaker. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Aaron Halfaker" Date: Feb 29, 2016 16:00 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmfall] Inspire Campaign on content curation & review launches today! To: "Chris Jethro Schilling" Cc: "St

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [opensource-107] Seattle to host the 2016 OpenStreetMap State of the Map US Conference

2016-03-01 Thread Pine W
(Cross-posting) For Wikimedia folks who are interested in possible collaborations with OSM, now seems like a good time to start thinking about possible presentations. Staff from the Wikimedia Foundation, and/or Wikimedia volunteers from around the US outside of the Seattle area, may want to start

[Wikitech-l] Internship opening: product management at WMDE

2016-03-24 Thread Pine W
Forwarding info about an opportunity to intern in product management with Wikidata and the good people at Wikimedia Deutschland. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Lydia Pintscher" Date: Mar 24, 2016 07:24 Subject: [Wikidata] internship opening: product management at WMDE To: "Di

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Pine W
I can't tell if this is intended to be an April 1st joke or if it's serious. In any case, I could see this being an interesting option for talk pages, particularly where Flow is enabled. Pine On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > It's well known that Wikipedia is facing thre

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

2016-04-02 Thread Pine W
Perhaps some Working Wikipedian and Tireless Contributor barnstars are appropriate for that group! Pine On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > hi, > > is there a statistics about mediawiki developer productivity? i just > fell over a couple of pages and i am quite impressed i

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

2016-04-02 Thread Pine W
Yeah. It would be interesting to have multiple measures of "productivity" for technical contributors, including code review. Quim: is this something that's within Technical Collaboration's scope? If not, perhaps it's something that I could work on developing later this year. Pine On Sat, Apr 2,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-02 Thread Pine W
I like that idea, Ori. Jonathan, what do you think about testing this concept in the Teahouse, as well as wikitext talk pages and Flow talk pages? Pine On Apr 2, 2016 18:38, "Ori Livneh" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Legoktm > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > It's well known that Wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

2016-04-04 Thread Pine W
Niklas puts it well. Analogously, in sports like baseball there are lots of statistics about players, coaches, teams, divisions, and leagues. Awards are given based strictly on quantities, as well as more subjectively on qualities for recognitions such as Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player

[Wikitech-l] How can someone get code reviews from the Wikidata dev team?

2016-04-16 Thread Pine W
A concise illustration from Lydia Pintscher that shows an innovative way to notify the Wikidata dev team that patches are ready for review: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:How_to_get_Wikidata_code_review_done.jpg Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical advice on expert review?

2016-04-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Anthony, Thanks for this initiative! As someone who deals with budget tables, I am very supportive of improving features for table editing. Have you tried editing tables in VE? You might also consider using a spreadsheet like Google Sheets, Microsoft Excel, or (offline) LibreOffice Calc. Be

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Videos from Jerusalem Hackathon & WikiArabia

2016-04-28 Thread Pine W
Forwarding Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Brill Lyle" Date: Apr 28, 2016 11:14 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Videos from Jerusalem Hackathon & WikiArabia To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Cc: In case you haven't seen these, the videos below were shared during today's WMF Metrics and Ac

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to upcoming office hours with interim ED

2016-05-04 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Katherine Maher" Date: May 4, 2016 17:47 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to upcoming office hours with interim ED To: , , < wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Hi everyone, **Summary: I am delighted to invite you to join

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Fall 2015 Tool Labs user survey data published

2016-05-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Bryan, Thanks for the report. With this information in hand, what follow up is planned? Pine On May 4, 2016 19:01, "Bryan Davis" wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: > > [0]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Annual_Tool_Labs_Survey > > Apologies for that abrup

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Fall 2015 Tool Labs user survey data published

2016-05-05 Thread Pine W
Sounds good. Thank you. Pine Pine On May 5, 2016 08:19, "Bryan Davis" wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > > Hi Bryan, > > > > Thanks for the report. With this information in hand, what follow up is > > planned? > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] JetBrains licenses for Volunteers and Staff

2016-05-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Yuri, ReSharper interests me. This email refers to license upgrades. What is involved in initially qualifying for a license? Thanks, Pine On Apr 18, 2016 09:44, "Yuri Astrakhan" wrote: > PhpStorm, InteliJ IDEA, Resharper and other JetBrain users, we just > received free upgraded licenses fo

Re: [Wikitech-l] JetBrains licenses for Volunteers and Staff

2016-05-10 Thread Pine W
of the license, but I am not sure we have any .net > code (I think we used to run bits of mono code somewhere, but that was a > while ago). Have you submitted any patches? In what languages? > > Thanks! > On May 10, 2016 08:48, "Pine W" wrote: > > > Hi Yuri, >

Re: [Wikitech-l] 12-May-2016 CREDIT, going back to Hangouts on Air/YouTube

2016-05-12 Thread Pine W
FYI, this week's presentations, according to the Etherpad, are: * *Derk-Jan Hartman:* Video.js progress * *Dmitry Brant*: Wikidata infoboxes in Android app * *Joaquin Hernandez*: Vicky chat bot * *Baha*: mobile printing for offline reading * *Monte*: "smart random" content service endpoint * *Erik

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'd love to contribue. Can anyone help me get started?

2016-05-18 Thread Pine W
Hello Seattleite! There are some Wikimedians, many with technology backrounds, who meet in the Seattle area. Please join our mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia I think that your existing skill set might fit well with WMF's interests in mobile apps and mob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement

2016-05-18 Thread Pine W
Some of this depends on geography. For example, in Washington State, we have significant hydroelectric capacity. (See http://www.eia.gov/state/print.cfm?sid=WA) My understanding is that some data centers are being placed in the far global north to take advantage of cold air or water temperatures

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Add Content-Security-Policy header to MediaWiki

2016-05-22 Thread Pine W
With the disclaimer that I'm not a security engineer and that I understand only parts of this proposal, in general this strikes me as a good idea. It seems to me that trying to develop a comprehensive list of what tools / scripts this proposal would likely break, how important those breaks are, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update from the Perf Team

2016-05-28 Thread Pine W
Thank you for the update. FWIW, a page that I load frequently that takes a long time is Commons' featured picture candidates. My guess is that starting with the implementation of HHVM and with smaller improvements thereafter, the page load time had been reduced by more than 50%, which is impressive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
I'm impressed by how many new accounts were created; 256 in a single month. I'd be interested to know what typically prompts people to create accounts. Also, does the 256 number include people who use their MediaWiki credentials to log into Phabricator for the first time? Just curious, Pine On Tu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
Just to add to Bartosz's comment, the definition of tasks in Phabricator includes feature requests, so more tasks may or may not correlate with more problems. Someone in QA may be able to comment with more detail about the number, severity or percentage of problems relative to the number of ticket

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2016-05

2016-05-31 Thread Pine W
Public data about product quality (in terms of conformance to specs) would be useful, I agree. Especially if the measurements are standardized across products. Pine On May 31, 2016 19:24, "Danny B." wrote: > > > -- Původní zpráva ------ > Od: Pine W > K

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-06-01 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-06-03 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, I'd like to request a clarification about RESTBase. These notes say: "* RESTBase ** enforcing rate limits as of today *** pageview: 10 req/s *** transforms: 5 req/s" Can you expand on what kinds of requests these rate limits are limiting? Thanks, Pine On Jun 1, 2016 11:06, "Grace Gell

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016W24 ArchCom RFC meeting (2016-06-15)

2016-06-15 Thread Pine W
I can't attend this meeting, but want to continue to voice support for improving MediaWiki (primarily VE) and Commons ability to accept, manipulate, and display spreadsheets and their kin. Thanks for working on this. Pine On Jun 15, 2016 00:11, "Rob Lanphier" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We're hol

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata] ORES live as a beta feature on Wikidata

2016-06-16 Thread Pine W
Lydia and Amir FTW. (There seems to be a pattern of good news from the Wikidata and ORES teams. I wonder if Team Practices could facilitate the replication of some of their methods!) Onward ho, Pine On Jun 16, 2016 10:14, "Lydia Pintscher" wrote: Hey folks :) Amir and other have worked hard ov

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Individual Engagement Grants program will fund 8 community-led projects

2016-06-18 Thread Pine W
Forwarding good news. Pine On Jun 18, 2016 08:45, "Marti Johnson" wrote: > Hi all, > > > In the latest round of Individual Engagement Grants > , 28 eligible proposals were > submitted for review. The committee recommended 8 for funding, with 9 > grantee

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update: Upload to Commons Android app

2016-06-21 Thread Pine W
A clarification: Josephine is a grantee, not a volunteer. I've seen situations go both ways, with WMF making decisions that it should leave to the community (such as with MediaViewer) as well as declining to pay for projects that would be worth funding (such as the previous decision to drop suppor

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] 100k articles written with Content Translation tool

2016-07-18 Thread Pine W
Nice to see. Thank you, Runa and Language Engineering. I like video clip too. Thank you, Victor. Pine On Jul 18, 2016 04:15, "Runa Bhattacharjee" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Our barely 1-year old Content Translation Tool just passed 100,000 > translations < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying the UrlShortener extension to Wikimedia wikis

2016-07-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Legoktm and others, I have a use case for which Wikimedia shortlinks that could be edited (to adapt to the changing locations of intended targets) could be useful. However, http://urlshortener.wmflabs.org/ comes with the disclaimer "DO NOT USE THIS SITE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN TESTING. IT WILL

[Wikitech-l] How widely is Flow being used?

2016-07-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Wikitech, I believe that Flow is being used on an opt-in basis on Wikidata and Catalan Wikipedia, and is used on user talk pages by default on MediaWiki. Is that correct? Are there any wikis other than MediaWiki where Flow is enabled on all talk pages by default? Are there any wikis where Fl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime this Monday!

2016-07-24 Thread Pine W
Thanks for working on a Sunday! Pine On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Chad Horohoe wrote: > Hi! > > So things are back up. Took a tad longer than expected. > > Big caveat: something is up with the Phabricator bridge and it's not > logging > what's up. I'll look at it first thing after I've got

[Wikitech-l] Microsoft adding research tool to Office

2016-07-26 Thread Pine W
I'm wondering if MS will pull citations from Wikipedia and/or make use of Wikidata. I'm also wondering if this will decrease Wikimedia site traffic in a similar way to how search engine knowledge panels may have decreased Wikimedia site traffic, particularly in this case from users who have access

[Wikitech-l] Slides and video of Wikimedia Foundation presentations at State of the Map US

2016-07-31 Thread Pine W
Slides that Katherine presented at State of the Map US: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Katherine_Maher%27s_keynote_presentation_at_OSM_State_of_the_Map_US_2016.pdf Video of Katherine's presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywGuz1586M0 Slides that Yuri presented at State of the Ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Pine W
"Should we be laying groundwork now to prevent issues decades away?" I'll answer that with "Yes". I could provide some interesting stories about technological and budgetary headaches that result from repeatedly delaying efforts to make legacy software be forwards-compatible. The technical details o

[Wikitech-l] Conference submissions now open for WikiConference North America

2016-08-01 Thread Pine W
WikiConference North America will take place October 7 through 10 in San Diego. The session tracks are: 1. Community 2. Advocacy & Outreach 3. Technology & Infrastructure 4. Health care and science 5. GLAM 6. Education and Academic Engagement Please submit proposals here: https://wikiconference.

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] Programmatically categorizing media in the Commons with Machine Learning

2016-08-11 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Jordan Adler" Date: Aug 11, 2016 13:06 Subject: [Commons-l] Programmatically categorizing media in the Commons with Machine Learning To: "common...@wikimedia.org" Cc: "Ray Sakai" , "Ram Ramanathan" < ramramanat...@google.com>, "Kazu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incident report: Multiple breakages due to wfLoadExtension() transition

2016-08-11 Thread Pine W
Thanks Max. Questions and comments below: > == Casualties == > > * Max's liver. :( > == Conclusions == > > * Our code review practices are lax, including merging hairy patches > without testing and self-merges. Is there a way to improve how code review is done such that appropriate testing wou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incident report: Multiple breakages due to wfLoadExtension() transition

2016-08-12 Thread Pine W
Ok, thanks Greg. Pine On Aug 12, 2016 08:49, "Greg Grossmeier" wrote: > > > > == Conclusions == > > > > > > * Our code review practices are lax, including merging hairy patches > > > without testing and self-merges. > > > > Is there a way to improve how code review is done such that appropria

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-08-17 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-08-17 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, There seems to be a few blanks in this report. Admittedly I only read it occasionally, but I would be interested in knowing what's happening in Editing and Collaboration. Is there a way to append that information to this report? Thanks, Pine On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Grace Gell

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-08-17 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-08-17 Thread Pine W
> not that big a deal and they should provide an update in the next week. > > Best, > > -Toby > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Grace, > > > > There seems to be a few blanks in this report. Admittedly I only read it > &

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook CTO on strategy, Internet access, Wikipedia

2016-08-18 Thread Pine W
Forwarding, since the subjects may be of interest to people on the Wikitech, AI, and Research lists. I'm unqualified to evaluate Damon's comments and the FB exec's comments about AI, so please refrain from shooting the messenger if these aren't helpful or interesting to those of you who do know en

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile site is now lazy loading images

2016-08-23 Thread Pine W
Good to hear. Does this also mean that pages load faster? Pine On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > FYI after much experimentation, research and testing the mobile site has > been lazy loading images [1] since Thursday 18th August. This means if you > do not see an image you wil

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile site is now lazy loading images

2016-08-23 Thread Pine W
Whoops, I missed the link. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Performance/Lazy_loading_images. Thanks for working on this. Pine On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Pine W wrote: > Good to hear. Does this also mean that pages load faster? > > Pine > > On Tue, Aug 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

2016-09-01 Thread Pine W
I like the concept. I wonder, if instead of having a standalone dev summit, it would make sense to have this broadly scoped conference be combined with or adjacent to Wikimania. Pine On Sep 1, 2016 10:12, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > The last couple years we've done a big MediaWiki Dev Summit in Jan

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata Query Service demo video

2016-09-06 Thread Pine W
Video demo of Wikidata Query Service: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jHoUkj_mKw Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikis back to 1.28.0-wmf.18

2016-09-16 Thread Pine W
Thank you for trying to untangle this web. I'm going to comment on the incident report talk page. Pine On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > On 16/09/16 15:29, Antoine Musso wrote: > >> >> I have pushed 1.28.0-wmf.19 on thursday at 19:10 UTC. It quickly got >> noticed that Wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Issues with image rendering?

2016-09-18 Thread Pine W
I just got this same error for a different file. Have you filed a Phabricator ticket? Pine On Sep 18, 2016 03:56, "Strainu" wrote: > In the last day I've seen quite a few images that throw errors when > trying to view them (for example, [1]). Already-existing thumbnails > work, but when one tri

[Wikitech-l] Data archiving on nanostructured glass

2016-09-23 Thread Pine W
There are occasional community discussions about how to preserve Wikipedia (and hopefully the sister projects) for a very long time even if there are any of several kinds of global disasters. This archival technology might be of interest: http://phys.org/news/2016-02-eternal-5d-storage-history-huma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Timing of ArchCom meetings

2016-10-04 Thread Pine W
Hi Rob, The US Wikimedians schedule our monthly online meetings via Doodle. The habit is that there is a monthly meeting scheduled the same way every month, although the days and times of meetings may vary. This system has its own weaknesses but for our purposes it is working okay. HTH, Pine O

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata

2016-10-05 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: "Léa Lacroix" Date: Oct 5, 2016 01:20 Subject: [Wikidata] Wikimedia Foundation directly funding Wikidata To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." < wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Hello folks, An information that you could

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-10-19 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-10-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, was there an update from the editing team(s) this week? I'm not seeing such an update in the meeting notes, not even a placeholder note that says "X was out this week but will update next week". Perhaps there was an update but it got missed in the meeting notes? If a team is missing an up

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer

2016-11-02 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Katherine Maher Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Victoria Coleman, WMF Chief Technology Officer To: Wikimedia Mailing List , wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Victoria Coleman Hi eve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-16 Thread Pine W
In addition to the suggestions from Tim: (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that the tool you use does not send your chosen password over the Internet and instead tests it locally. (1) If you find it difficult to remember strong

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-17 Thread Pine W
besides 2FA which is not available to everyone? Pine On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 16/11/2016 à 19:19, Pine W a écrit : > > > > (0) Consider testing your password strength with a tool like > > http://www.testyourpassword.com/; be sure that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on WMF account compromises

2016-11-17 Thread Pine W
Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > 1. If you don't trust that strength testing site (which is fine), choose > > another. I did a couple of quick checks on that site; while it's entirely > > po

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Implementing Katherine's Vision: "Discussing Discussions"

2016-11-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Scott, Thanks for your enthusiasm about making the wikis friendlier places. A few points to bring to your attention: * Patrick Earley in Support & Safety has been researching issues related to harassment for some time. I suggest that you consult him on possible approaches. * I was happy to he

Re: [Wikitech-l] WikipediaP2P

2016-11-28 Thread Pine W
I'd love to have Wikimedia content not be dependent on WMF servers, but as noted by others, there are a lot of problems to address, including privacy and security issues. At some point I think it might be good to have an office hour or some other kind of meeting about this subject to discuss possib

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Amir, Were these changes discussed in advance with Wikimedia communities on mailing lists, village pumps, etc? I am thinking particularly of template designers and maintainers, who may have coordinated their work with the previous color scheme. It seems to me that Wikimedians should be given pl

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Statement by Wikimedia Board on Healthy Community Culture, Inclusivity, and Safe Spaces

2016-12-08 Thread Pine W
This email might interest others who would like to know what next steps WMF is considering address this set of issues, in terms of policies, practices, and technical developments. Pine -- Forwarded message -- From: Patrick Earley Date: Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-09 Thread Pine W
lors. > It's really hard to see any objections overall. > > Best > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:03 AM Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Amir, > > > > Were these changes discussed in advance with Wikimedia communities on > > mailing lists, village pumps, etc?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-09 Thread Pine W
While I appreciate the attempt to be funny, I am not amused in this case. Surprise UI changes could, for example, result in thousands of dollars' worth of instructional videos becoming instantly out of sync with the real-world user experience. Also, users who may have spent considerable time perfec

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
I have delayed responding to this thread until I felt that I could do with some degree of calmness. I view UI changes that affect millions of pages as a big deal. I realize that from a developer's perspective it may seem trivial to change a color setting. Let me try to illustrate a different persp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Volker, Thanks very much for your explanation. I hope that I have explained adequately that the difficulty that I see here isn't with the change itself, but rather with communication and consultation. An issue that I'm still trying to wrap my head around is that it's impossible for me (and I i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-14 Thread Pine W
> in-application/services changes and redesigns or from external changes > such as system user interface provided mechanisms without major > impacts to the documentation that i've used. > > On 14 December 2016 at 18:39, Pine W wrote: >> I have delayed responding to this th

[Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-15 Thread Pine W
(Now forking this from the "Changes in colors of user interface" thread.) Hi Adam, Thanks for your email. I don't think that our interface evolves particularly rapidly, our interface makes me feel like it's 2003 again. I'd like to have our interface's usability and our workflows be much easier f

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#1!)

2016-12-15 Thread Pine W
Forwarding Katherine's email because this may also be of interest to technical audiences and Wikimedia affiliates who don't subscribe to Wikimedia-l. Also including Research-l because the strategy process will likely be influenced by existing research, and may involve new research initiatives. Pin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-16 Thread Pine W
that launched, when might it happen, and who should coordinate and publish it? Pine On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:51 AM, Pine W wrote: > >> The issue which I am attempting to address is not a UI change itself >> (good or bad) b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-19 Thread Pine W
2016 at 4:38 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > The Newsletter extension could be useful in all kind of ways, and I > > was glad to see that it's apparently still in active development. > > > > Oh yes, check https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/888/ > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-20 Thread Pine W
Quim Gil wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Pine W wrote: > > > Hi Quim, > > > > Would it be possible to set up a 60-minute Hangouts or Zoom meeting to > > discuss this set of issues (UX change communications, possibly aided by > the > > newslette

[Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-11 Thread Pine W
I just started getting a lot of these errors when trying to load pages on multiple Wikimedia sites. Pine ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
hanks for reporting! > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Wikitech-l [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im > Auftrag von Pine W > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2017 20:37 > An: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Betreff: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undef

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
he production debug servers, the > patch failed. I rolled back within seconds. > > This code is proving rather difficult to clean up :( > > -Chad > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:54 AM Pine W wrote: > > > Thanks Florian. I'm curious to know what happened. When you have

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-12 Thread Pine W
Yeah, I need to write one up, I'll try to get it done today or tomorrow. > > > > There won't be much to learn / do as a result, but it needs to be > > documented at the very least. > > > > -Chad > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:18 AM Pine

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP fatal error: Call to undefined method stdClass::get()

2017-01-17 Thread Pine W
apper wrote: > On Wed, 2017-01-11 at 11:36 -0800, Pine W wrote: > > I just started getting a lot of these errors when trying to load > > pages on multiple Wikimedia sites. > > If you'd like to report a software bug, Phabricator is the best place: > https://www.medi

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Invitation to WMF January 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, January 26, 19:00 UTC

2017-01-19 Thread Pine W
Forwarding from WikimediaAnncounce-l to Wikimedia-l because auto-foward is still not working. Also forwarding to Wikitech-l and MediaWiki-l because the "Reconstructing MediaWiki history" presentation sounds like it may be of interest to some people on those lists. Pine -- Forwarded messa

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-09 Thread Pine W
Can I just chime in briefly and say I am glad this conversation is happening before Flow goes into production. This is the kind of conversation that leads to better software, especially when power users participate in the discussion and influence design decisions long before software is pushed out

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-09 Thread Pine W
FWIW, for me as a power user who watches many discussions simultaneously on multiple wikis, a unified watchlist and more refined tools for watchlist management are among the features at the top of my development wish list. Pine On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Mon, Jun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Elliot Eggleston joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-06-13 Thread Pine W
Welcome Elliot, but... /antennae twitch Voodoo? Secret account in the Caymans set up by Fundraising Tech? Wikishares? /ping Csteipp /ping Gbyrd Pine On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Terry Chay wrote: > Hello everyone, > > It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Elliott Eggleston w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Second round of the MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2014-06-14 Thread Pine W
Out of curiosity, will the proposals be reviewed by GAC? Pine On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > On 5/27/14, 11:13 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > The deadline for proposals is June 13. > > > > I only noticed this now, but [2] says there will be a "!vote" that end

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