In case live in another timezone:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130924T22
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On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I would like
Well sometimes a bot bump is appropriate. Sometimes I do +1 on a change
with the intention of doing a further review later, but then I forget.
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Le 24/09/13 22:18, C. Scott Ananian a écrit :
Can we get the bot
:/ damn for some reason I thought this was on Thursday.
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Reminder to all: this is about to start.
-- brion
On Sun, Sep 22
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examine?
This is probably what you're looking for:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Client-side_.28dynamically.29
There's a JavaScript function mw.loader.using() that loads modules before
calling the passed closure.
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, like Mark mentioned, I'd like to see some statistics on how many
people use shared hosting for MediaWiki before dropping support for them
out of principle.
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Chris Steipp cste
a reason that almost every MediaWiki install in existence is completely out
of date.
Do you have some specific examples?
Also, if that's the case then removing file caching would be a step
backwards.
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On Oct 7, 2013 11:55 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
When constructing an SQL string, how should the following things be
escaped, if at all?
* Field names
* Index names
It looks like when doing a select using the Database MW thing, the field
names provided do not
bar' into '`foo \ bar`', but 'foo ` bar' comes out wrong as '`foo `
bar`'.
Good point. Didn't seem to find anything on this in Bugzilla so I filed it:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55427
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throws an ErrorPageError, which just
bypasses all logic and shows a nice error page. Usually errors that are
fatal to the request, i.e., once they occur the request can no longer
continue, work well with exceptions.
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queries? Thanks in advance.
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A smallish wiki with 10ks of pages and the full history and the table data
(not just revision/page/*links stuff from dumps) would probably be useful.
I'm not sure where the threshold roughly starts though.
OK, maybe I'll try this then. Thanks for the advice.
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This should probably be filed as a bug if it isn't already.
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Aran a...@organicdesign.co.nz wrote:
I see, so is there any way to update user preferences such as real
the scope of what RL does. RL
is made only for internal JavaScript modules that can be maintained and
managed within the application.
You will probably just have to use OutputPage::addScriptFile(
http://www.google.com/jsapi; ) to do it.
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. However, a value object needs to be easily serializable.
So what representation is used for serializing a TitleValue? It can't be
the display title or DB key since that's part of the TitleFormatter class.
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to acknowledge that some properties of Title objects are indeed part of the
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God I hate Ruby, but the JS reports look interesting, albeit it's kind of
just JSHint in a nicer GUI with some cyclomatic complexity checks.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Željko Filipin zfili
people who
subscribe to the new patchset feed. Please don't do that again in the
future.
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Agreed with Brion here. The User class has a large mixture of functionality
and is hardcoded all over the place. There are very few use cases I can
think of where it would work, and even then there's no guarantee the
solution will continue to work in future versions.
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About time another issue with TLS popped up. Thought I'd share it here:
http://bit-player.org/2013/the-keys-to-the-keydom
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to be made
vulnerable. The process can be performed by anybody and only takes a day or
two of processing along with an hour of computation (about $5 on EC2).
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro
! Not sure what embedded systems WMF might have, but if somebody has the
time they may want to double-check. You never know...
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hear, hear!
There's a cake in the office, hopefully someone
.264, but we can still serve existing H.264 videos. So
if somebody uploads an MP4 to Commons, that video can be served without
having to transcode it into another less efficient format.
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
If all this makes you want to just punch patents in the nose and run away,
that's understandable...
:/ it does. It really does.
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MediaWiki: Manually fixing broken browser functionality since 2012.
Also I do wonder how useful this actually is. Does site JavaScript really
change that often? I suppose we'll find out after testing.
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/tutorials/appcache/beginner/
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offline applications. If your application is not an offline
application, then you should not be using cache manifests in the first
place, because that's not what it's meant for.
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and printing to a PDF. Future plans include using bookjs or
the like to improve the rendering.
Aha awesome. Thanks for explaining.
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would agree it might be a good thing to become a mentor organization and
have students contribute to MediaWiki as part of a college credit program.
Any thoughts?
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, which seems to be the case.
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, and a lot easier to use. However,
this is out-of-scope for the discussion, so if you have an opinion on
whether doing this is a good/bad idea, please start another thread.
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-party components, but right now
those listed seem like the main candidates (although even some of those
listed would be really difficult to do and might not happen).
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The RFC on third-party components may interest you:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components
If we use the Monolog library, which is used in Symfony and others, we can
avoid having to re-implement an entire logging framework.
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On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote:
VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs
Those are two separate concepts. Just because something has bugs does not
make the software itself a bad idea.
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sensitive environment is never a good idea. It all depends on
what type of wikis are being run and what is being stored on them.
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through Gerrit.)
Right now the only somewhat proper approach to adding new core dependencies
is using Git submodules, which is not the most favorable approach for
reasons I mentioned in the beginning of the thread.
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point for now. Though lets pretend this has already bee taken care off and
look at solutions to the technical problem.
OK, in that case I will use git submodules for my upcoming third party
library patches.
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things that could really be separated into libraries are the
DatabaseType hierarchy, the HTMLForm section, maybe the FileRepo / File /
FileBackend product, and maybe the JobQueue product.
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, but any module that is cached in localStorage will no
longer benefit from V8's compiler optimizations. It may be useful to have
an option that disables the use of localStorage for specific modules.
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On Wed
/compiler.cc#872
[1]
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/source/mediawiki.html#mw-loader-method-work
[2] https://github.com/jquery/jquery/blob/master/src/core.js#L283
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I'll probably try and attend, although it's during the day so there's no
guarantee my boss won't randomly schedule a meeting or something.
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Aaron Halfaker ahalfa
Javascript debugging in MediaWiki.
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to use it. If there were a way to submit
patchsets without using Git somehow (maybe some kind of desktop
application), it may make things easier.
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:/ There are only ten videos. Is there some sort of special upload process
that needs to be followed here? Because uploading ten things to Commons
takes all of fifteen minutes.
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5
have +2 on their wiki's Gerrit project. If the cost
of increasing site-wide security and alleviating developers' pain is a few
upset users who will get over it in a month or two, then so be it.
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. Gadgets are code. It is the absolute
*correct* tool for the job. At the very least it is a more proper tool than
using wiki software. If Wikipedia wants to have any resemblance of proper
software security, having gadgets stored on wiki should disappear very
quickly.
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
The videos are (mostly) over 1 gb, which is our upload limit. Hence
maintenance script needed.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification.
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote:
More details can be found on the bug report I submitted on Bugzilla.
For those wondering, it is filed under bug 58532.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58532
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of control structures is frustrating unless the templates are
really simple). So I'd support using Twig or something similar to it like
jinja2. Either way the RFCs can definitely be combined.
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is a plus.
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was to simply abandon IP blocks, since
users can easily enough change their IP addresses anyway.
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Right now MediaWiki installation requirements say you need MySQL 5.0.2 or
later. So my question is: is this configuration variable still necessary,
or should it be deprecated?
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
This is, why we (or some core) MediaWiki developers should also attend
such congresses like the C3 regularly.
Times like these living in USA is inconvenient.
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is finding a software solution that makes it possible.
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It is definitely outside of core scope, but is it within OAuth scope? If
anything I think it would be some sort of separate extension that relies on
OAuth, but is not actually part of OAuth itself.
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they go through in order to be certified for security
and whatnot (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). They have a very strict set
of software policies they must follow. Implementing a system like this to
work with donations would be extraordinarily difficult, if it's even
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It's a CAPTCHA, not an article or piece of actual content. If people are
actually getting offended by randomly generated CAPTCHAs I think they need
to find something more worthwhile to complain about.
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There's
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is, for schemas created without it.
Yeah. What I mean is should it be deprecated for new installations.
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM, VP Singh vpsing...@gmail.com wrote:
Donot send me spam
That email was not spam. If you don't want to receive Wikimedia development
emails, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list.
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$wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to
show detailed debugging information.
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Aarti K. Dwivedi
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Welcome back Sumana! :)
Cheers,
Aarti
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Nasir Khan nasir8
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Shahyar G(whatever)
XD
Welcome aboard!
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How does this compare to the PECL runkit extension? Also have you
benchmarked it against Scribunto? Because Scribunto does kind of the same
exact thing except just with a different programming language (and
Scribunto uses a native interpreter rather than one written in PHP).
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a global state design; it's just different. PHP replaces global state
with things like job queues and caches, and it tends to work pretty well.
If anything it makes development easier because, not surprisingly, managing
global state is incredibly difficult.
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
What version is available via PEAR? Installing via that is no more
manual than apt.
Also don't forget composer as well.
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On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:03 PM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote:
Aaron Schulz has become the first person to have approved (+2'ed) =
1000 patchsets to mediawiki core
Wow it takes real skill to out-review the l10-bot. I'm going to have to
step up my game. ;)
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to obey the HTTP spec. Hence the reason
why we don't have E-Tag support either.
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to pressing a
button and resetting my identity. Keep in mind we are not trying to
permanently block vandals, because that's impossible. We're just trying to
make vandalism difficult enough so it is no longer worthwhile.
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in the effort to make sure it is secure. To that I say see the above
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hijacked.
This is definitely something to consider, but I feel like it would involve
changing our privacy policy. Or at the very least it would cause some
controversy related to that.
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on down to
the San Francisco office and show their government ID. Then we have Tim or
Brion log them in personally. ;)
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an initiative to add
that as an option.
You mean kind of like this?
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SSLClientAuthentication
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Can we maybe add this into Jenkins somehow? It'd be kind of nice if we
could make sure from now on that no patches break unit tests in HHVM.
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org
was the Mobile Team.
Agreed on this. Even on Gerrit, it is hard to keep track of possible
changes and decisions being made. The mailing list is an important medium
for any significant discussion and announcements concerning MediaWiki.
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no more information than xhprof would (and yes, xhprof is
meant for production use.
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this summer, like in July or something. Once that happens we can
safely stop supporting 5.3 with the next MediaWiki release.
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parse_url() behavior
Of course there is traits as well, but that's more of an actual new
feature, and it will be a while before MediaWiki starts using traits
everywhere.
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
There are likely others. What can be done to address this issue?
Only way I can think of is to improve the Lua - PHP API so that users can
make the queries directly.
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Rahul Maliakkal rahul14...@gmail.comwrote:
Great work Quim again!!!
Regards,
Rahul
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Harsh Kothari
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SpecialPage to inherit
ContextSource (or hopefully have it as a trait once we move to 5.4),
but it was impossible to do that since SpecialPage decided to
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communicative with
other developers, especially when you are negating their changes or
decisions.
Thanks in advance,
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into account extensions that incorrectly rely on
its interface, and a breakage in a deployed extension should result in an
undeployment and a fix to that extension, not a revert of the core patch.
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of thing that
gets people fired at other companies.
But apparently I'm the only person that thinks this, so the WMF can feel
free to do what it wants.
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supposed to
block core development, and let this bug persist indefinitely, because of a
much less serious bug in an extension? That really only leaves #1, but
apparently the vast minority of opponents of the original patch decided it
was a good idea to jump right over and skip to #2.
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. If there was any timing
issue to consider here, I would say after a few days we'd have to reach a
solution.
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was launched almost completely untested. It
should have been caught long before it was put into production.
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