Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook's HHVM performance sprint retrospective highlights MediaWiki gains

2015-06-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, And good news it is :) Thanks Ori :) were people of the WMF involved in this ? Thanks, GerardM On 12 June 2015 at 06:08, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: a parse of the Barack Obama article. A parse of

Re: [Wikitech-l] XML dumps

2015-05-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
hear hear Gerard On 29 May 2015 at 01:52, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: The XML database dumps are missing all through May, apparently because of a memory leak that is being worked on, as described here, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98585 However, that information doesn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-05-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What does it take for the WMF to provide continued support for important tools like Apertium ? If there is one movement that will benefit from development of Apertium it is ours.. Thanks, GerardM On 1 May 2015 at 15:57, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Amir, First of all a big

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RfC] Feature to watch categorylinks

2015-04-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Would it be possible to trigger a function that might add statements to the items for the articles involved ? Thanks, GerardM On 2 April 2015 at 11:54, Kai Nissen kai.nis...@wikimedia.de wrote: I already noticed the extension, but decided not to enhance it. As you already said, it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi What is meant by real hardware ? Can we have some at Labs please? Thanks, GerardM And will this service be hosted on Wikimedia Labs? No, on real hardware. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, Yuvi and others are prioritizing Labs reliability improvements for the next FY. I hope so. Pine On Mar 18, 2015 11:03 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi What is meant by real hardware ? Can we have some at Labs please? Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Thanks, GerardM On 19 March 2015 at 17:05, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: What do you mean it doesn't scale? On Thursday, March 19, 2015, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hoi, REALLY .. never ever heard about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean it doesn't scale? On Thursday, March 19, 2015, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, REALLY .. never ever heard about that template ... and it does not scale Thanks, GerardM On 19 March 2015 at 16:39, John

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you want to have a real world population of editors moving over to flow, try translatewiki.net when FLOW is ready. It is exclusively LQT and it has localisation in any languages always.You will not have any religious rants about Wikitext; there is none and, you will not have official bias.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, REALLY .. never ever heard about that template ... and it does not scale Thanks, GerardM On 19 March 2015 at 16:39, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: I think my post might have gotten lost. But what is normal on wiki when we hit a reasonable indentation level is to use a template

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Sorry but Wikitext is of such a nature that I do not use it as much as possible. LiquidThreads was a huge step forward and I still find it astonishing that it was left to rot for such a long time.I really welcome the move towards Flow. Flow is not an inadequate substitute, it is what will

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia REST content API is now available in beta

2015-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In what way will we know how useful this is? Will we have usage statistics ? Thanks, GerardM On 10 March 2015 at 23:23, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello all, I am happy to announce the beta release of the Wikimedia REST Content API at https://rest.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Partial (but dramatic) labs outage on Tuesday: 2015-02-24 1500UTC-1800UTC -- finished

2015-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Andrew, Coren, Yuvi, thank you... You have not been lucky but you certainly get my vote for the great effort you have put in. Thanks, GerardM On 24 February 2015 at 19:43, Andrew Bogott abog...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is done. Instances were largely back up and running half an hour

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When the local language is not among the selected languages, it helps to show a level 0 for the local language. What do you think, is this feasible ?? Thanks, GerardM On 20 February 2015 at 20:32, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is awesome! When do we get a global

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Babel templates are replaced by the #Babel functionality... The only problem I have with the Babel functionality on Meta is that they decided to have everything in Green.. However check it out on my profile. Thanks, GerardM On 20 February 2015 at 11:22, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] E-mail login to wiki - needs feedback

2015-02-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been at Meta ... I do not see it, I do not understand it .. What should I do to enable this ? Thanks, GerardM On 20 February 2015 at 18:53, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:52 AM, devunt dev...@gmail.com wrote: We should consider some edge

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, S or T what language ?? What do you propose for Cyrillic ? Thanks, GerardM On 13 February 2015 at 18:22, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I would go with S or T depending on what you choose to call these edits. I lean towards S. This can be changed later of there is an

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What does this have to do with English Wikipedia ? It is useful everywhere.. Why limit the scope ? Thanks, GerardM On 11 February 2015 at 10:33, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the question is however, if this passed consensus on english wikipedia and I made a patch for

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Developer Summit: The future of Language Converter

2015-01-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It has always been very clear that the script conversion for Serbian and Chinese is very important. Every time it has been stressed that it needs to remain available. The fact that technically you have a challenge does not take anything away from it. I am quite confident that the Language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Stance on Social Media

2015-01-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The great thing of personal opinion is that they make great arguments, they have their point When they are presented well they are compelling.. HOWEVER, we are in the habit of testing many of these arguments. This is a test that is bound to be interesting to many of us. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Numbering table rows

2015-01-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, That would be useful when the table is static. When numbers are not static it is only useful for one time usage. Typically it should be possible to add numbers for one time usage. Thanks, GerardM On 1 January 2015 at 13:02, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, is there any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Numbering table rows

2015-01-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The number is to represent what ?? Or do you only want to know the number of records presented ? Thanks, GerardM On 1 January 2015 at 13:40, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-01 13:31 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, That would be useful when

Re: [Wikitech-l] Numbering table rows

2015-01-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
in Excel than the average of editors. Wouldn't it be nice to have a natural wikiconform way, either a {{#}}-like magic symbol to the first cell of each row, or perhaps a new class that generates a first column by itself? 2015-01-01 13:49 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] search engine integration of wikimedia projects

2014-12-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Actually we already have cross Wikimedia projects search. We already serve this to many Wikipedias I know off. I blogged about it several times and it does allow you to find people who have an article in another project. ... it does help us provide access to the other parts of the sum of all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator outage due to network issues, 11/29

2014-11-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Right ? so it is thanksgiving et al.. Be thankful that it is seen, It is not Wikipedia or any of the projects...so relax.. eat some left over turkey.. Thanks, GerardM On 30 November 2014 at 09:59, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: ASAP? when it's already hitting approx. five hours

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator outage due to network issues, 11/29

2014-11-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
. Obviously that would be an operations call. --bawolff On Nov 30, 2014 5:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Right ? so it is thanksgiving et al.. Be thankful that it is seen, It is not Wikipedia or any of the projects...so relax.. eat some left over turkey

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC for media file request counts, please chime in

2014-11-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Pageviews are associated with articles. Articles are associated with items. Have experiments been done to learn the page views per item? Thanks, GerardM On 26 November 2014 at 19:06, Erik Zachte ezac...@wikimedia.org wrote: Since 2008 Wikimedia collects pageview counts for most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Identifying potential cross-language contributions

2014-11-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As you know all articles about the same subject are linked together thanks to Wikidata. Many articles refer to the same subjects. This concept cloud includes what was considered important when writing these articles. The content of this concept cloud can be seen from the Reasonator for any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Yuvi Panda joins Ops

2014-11-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy for Yuvi. He will continue to do what he does and will become even more awesome at it. At the same time I find it sad that he moves to the USA because he was invaluable because he was available when the other Labs people were not around. As such he provided a much needed

Re: [Wikitech-l] WikiGrok deployed

2014-11-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do not get it. It says, it will eventually put this information into Wikidata ... WHY NOT NOW ? Thanks, GerardM On 3 November 2014 23:16, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, WikiGrok[0] has been successfully deployed to the English Wikipedia. Along with it a first

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: slight change to the XML dump format

2014-10-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You may want to wait until the dumps are fixed. Magnus fixed the one but last dump by hand. The following dump is still broken. Wait until we KNOW the dumps are ok. Thanks, GerardM On 27 October 2014 21:58, Ariel T. Glenn agl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thank you Google for hiding the

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator

2014-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I understand that Phabricator is the place to be. My user for phabricator thinks I use an old WMF profile. Can someone please change this to this email address for me? As it is I am stuck. I cannot change it. Thanks, GerardM ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator

2014-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is the text I get .Obviously I cannot do this because I do not have access to that account any more You must verify your email address to login. You should have a new email message from Phabricator with verification instructions in your inbox (*gmeijs...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Phabricator

2014-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: This discussion might better suited for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help than wikitech-l@... Hi, On Sun, 2014-10-19 at 13:09 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Obviously I cannot do this because I do not have access to that account any more

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

2014-09-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thanks Sumana.. Have a great life and have fun living it. I hope to see you around :) GerardM On 12 September 2014 18:09, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: I write this email with regret to let you know that I've decided to leave the Wikimedia Foundation after nearly four

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
). 2014-08-11 12:20 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: You know our projects, you know our licenses. If you, the communitydo not like what you have, you can fork. At Wikimania forking and leaving the community was very much discussed. Watch Jimbo's presentation for instance

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Code review should be a strictly technical process surely. However the community CANNOT decide on everything. The WMF has one codebase for MediaWiki and it explicitly defines with long lead times the things it is working on. It does invite the community to be involved in the process. However,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

2014-08-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
. On 11 August 2014 10:36, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, at 19:20, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Code review should be a strictly technical process surely. However the community CANNOT decide on everything. The WMF has one codebase for MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

2014-07-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I use GMAIL and I see it plenty fine. Thanks, GerardM On 10 July 2014 11:51, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: You should resend this email from a different address and with a subject, GMail thinks it's spam, so almost no one will ever see it. -- Matma Rex

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

2014-07-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, no filters for me.. Thanks, GerardM On 10 July 2014 13:39, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: I use GMAIL and I see it plenty fine. I also use Gmail, and it says the only reason it wasn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As long as our categories are English, they are useless for all of those who do not speak English. Even so, as long as the current technology is used for those categories it is a trial to find images at all. Many people have given up. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 09:12, Kristian

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The perfect Wikidata heaven solution will be as imperfect as the perfect Wikipedia heaven solution. Lets stay down to earth and go for something that works most of the time and does not take forever to realise. Thanks, GerardM On 18 June 2014 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
. This is still english-centric -- as in having english in the centre of a hub-and-spoke modelled dictionary -- but it does make it _translatable_, which I think is enough for this feature. Kristian Kankainen [1] http://babelnet.org/ 18.06.2014 11:52, Gerard Meijssen kirjutas: Hoi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Finding images

2014-06-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Now that ONLY indicates that stock agencies have a similar problem to Commons, it does not help finding images or indicates a path we could take to improve things. When images are gaining tags as part of the Wikidatification of multi mediafiles we at least have a way to add multi lingual

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, While some may think it perfectly ok to be contrary and argue vehemently to keep old hat technology operational for them and everyone around them, I wonder if they consider cost and consequences. * Cost to maintain duplicate and increasingly feature incompatible functionality * Cost to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Accessing current template information on wiki commons description page

2014-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The good news is that work on the Wikidatafication of multimedia files has started. You just provided an excellent example why it is so needed. One drawback is that once it is done, your current work will need to be revisited. Thanks, GerardM On 3 June 2014 07:59, james harvey

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output from Zurich Hackathon - yet another maps extension!

2014-05-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For your information there are several things Wikidata can already do. - When for instance a district is associated with a shape, multiple shapes could be known and dated by Wikidata. - It could know of the existence of maps and when a map is defined in a way that allows for

Re: [Wikitech-l] VE in 1.23? (was: Mozilla's Wiki Working Group meeting Tues 1600 UTC)

2014-05-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This does pique my interest, what makes the en.wp so special ? Thanks, GerardM On 6 May 2014 00:11, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 23:08, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 5 May 2014 15:05, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: So ... how is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

2014-04-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Are screen readers supported ? But do they understand what is the cruft that is on a page, the kind of cruft that you do not want to get read out to you? Thanks, GerardM On 29 April 2014 08:03, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Ilias

Re: [Wikitech-l] need help for downloadin Urdu data from Wikipedia

2014-04-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, While everybody can start with sources, it is very much duplicated and wasted effort. The suggestion to use Kiwix is excellent. Please do hack on things where it makes a difference. Why bother start from scratch when the results are available in a nicely formatted way ? Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Wikitech-l] API attribute ID for querying wikipedia pages

2014-04-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I totally agree that you should be able to do this. However, would it not make more sense to get structured information from Wikidata? Thanks, GerardM On 24 April 2014 14:24, Daan Kuijsten daankuijs...@gmail.com wrote: On 23-Apr-14 21:29, wikitech-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor template editing interface

2014-04-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Is there a way to link such templates easily to Wikidata? Thanks, GerardM Op 22 apr. 2014 17:51 schreef Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org: We are introducing recommended fields which will be automatically added when the template is added. We already support required fields which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Free fonts and Windows users

2014-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that you do have statistics, how did all the huha around the ULS performance issue and now all this hit the use of the functionality for dyslexic people? We know that it helps but how do we help people with dyslexia? They are only 7 to 10% of a population.. I have not done the

Re: [Wikitech-l] page title

2014-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Did you try Wikidata for this ? It works really well... http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?find=John+Doe show you the result for a search for Sonoma.. This is not an exact match but the point is that Wikidata CAN have multiple instances of the same name. With sufficient attention to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Reducing the number of GeoData coordinates stored

2014-04-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Max, Is it possible to compare your index with the items in Wikidata. There are several things that I would like to do * add all coordinates to Wikidata items * report on all coordinates where what you know differs from Wikidata A next obvious question is how can we keep the two data sets in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sharing mathematical and music notations across wikis

2014-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi I do not understand what you expect of Wikidata... Thanks GerardM Op 20 mrt. 2014 19:25 schreef Eugene Zelenko eugene.zele...@gmail.com: Hi! I think will be good idea to introduce support for files in TeX and ABC/Lilypond (Score extension) formats, so such files could be hosted on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Webfonts

2014-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You do not understand what the existing implementation of Webfonts is about. It is about not serving tofu. You know, those pesky boxes that represent a character. When tofu is served, no characters can be seen and consequently no information can be read. Please ask any community if this is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability testing

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Steven do I understand correctly that there is no user testing except in English ? Thanks, GerardM On 7 March 2014 00:47, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are discussing. Chances are that much of what you come up with now will be obsolete in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
On 7 March 2014 12:19, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 11:50 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote: On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-03-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that you only researched Latin fonts, did you consider the coverage of these fonts for languages? Not all fonts are created equal, they often do not necessarily cover all the characters that are needed for specific languages. Consequently, you cannot apply your work to other languages

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding new property value in WIKIDATA

2014-03-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The process is cumbersome; you have to request the creation of a new property in Wikidata itself. It is anybody's guess how long it will take for a positive response. Even a negative response is something that can have you wait for a long time. Thanks, GerardM On 2 March 2014 10:15,

[Wikitech-l] The place of language support in MediaWiki

2014-02-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There has been a lot of controversy about language support. Some of the arguments used indicate a lack of understanding what it is language support does. In my opinion language support is a primary requirement of MediaWiki. MediaWiki supports languages really well. In a blog post [1] I have

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You say we have failed miserably. Many fonts are mentioned and they are all for the Latin script. Many fonts are mentioned and you fail to mention the Open Dyslexic font. I know from personal experience that Open Dyslexic makes a difference in being able to read Wikipedia [1]. We know that

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
February 2014 08:54, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Working towards a more beautiful viewing experience is a secondary objective. Primary is that our readers and editors can read and edit. ULS is a huge success in doing what it was intended to do. I am afraid

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Design] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2014-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: ULS is a huge success in doing what it was intended to do. I am afraid that we have lost sight of what our primary objective is about. Thanks, GerardM TBH we probably lost most of that when everything was rolled into one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-02-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With the autolist [1] and Widar you can make claims for the entries in a category. So you can first claim occupation philosopher and then make other claims about such philosophers ... Mind you claiming the Greek nationality for people who spoke Greek is problematic when these people were

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In Reasonator we now support calendars [1] It does show you things like people who were born / died on that date, events under way on that date .. Play with and notice that longer periods are also supported. Some longer periods may take some time but we have a waiting bar for you..It does

Re: [Wikitech-l] new PDF Renderer - mw-ocg-bundler issue

2014-01-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Just a question, the WMF has invested a lot of effort in producing fonts for many of the languages it supports. These fonts are better than the fonts used in packages like Ubuntu. Is there a problem in using the WMF supported font ? It certainly makes the inconsistency in Ubuntu moot.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Did you consider the use of Wikidata in stead of SMW? It should not only indicate all the articles that have the appropriate statements but also the articles written in other languages. Thanks, GerardM On 26 January 2014 03:25, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: Of course

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the new PDF Renderer

2014-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Liangent, Does [1] this answer your question ? It is a page they use for testing. Thanks, Gerard http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/納粹德國海軍 On 25 January 2014 08:56, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't look at the new renderer carefully, but I guess it's a Parsoid-based one. Hope

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, with support JS). git here: https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reasonator On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, At this moment Wikipedia red links provide

[Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

2014-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At this moment Wikipedia red links provide no information whatsoever. This is not cool. In Wikidata we often have labels for the missing (=red link) articles. We can and do provide information from Wikidata in a reasonable way that is informative in the Reasonator. We also provide

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the new PDF Renderer

2014-01-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have a few questions - do you support other scripts used by languages like Malayalam (ml), Persian (fa), Chinese (zh) Russian (ru) ?? - when you do, do you have examples for these languages ? - are the messages not localised or are they also not internationalised ? - are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic unit conversion

2014-01-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The best place for such an effort would be Wikidata.. There are many units that could do with some TLC. Particularly with the arrival of values in Wikidata it is expedient to do this. One other area where attention would be relevant are dates.. Did you know that some calendars (that are

Re: [Wikitech-l] A Multimedia Vision for 2016

2014-01-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Fabrice, I very much love the two stories described in the vision. It describes not only a functionality that is technical, it also describes how our community may interact. That is great. What I missed are the consequences of the planned integration of Commons with Wikidata. I blogged about

Re: [Wikitech-l] FWD: [Bug 58236] New: No longer allow gadgets to be turned on by default for all users on Wikimedia sites

2013-12-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, A blanket ban like this is an extremely bad idea. The notion that you should think twice before you make something a default option does have merit. Gadgets, java script all provide functionality that is sometimes / often experimental. Without the benefit of experiments we will get into a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I received this mail ... It answers your question .. Thanks, Gerard Hoi, Thanks to some help by Ori Livneh, there are some new installation instructions that I've added for Wdsearch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js Would you be able to go around to the various wikis

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Let us be honest indeed. The others are not heard when they scream and shout in their little corner of the world.. Thanks, Gerard On 5 December 2013 23:41, Happy Melon happy.melon.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 December 2013 23:36, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Thu,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] (Update) HTTP on tools.wmflabs.org temporarily disabled

2013-12-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you for resolving this :) http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/12/the-tech-barnstar.html Thanks, GerardM On 4 December 2013 22:03, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: More news: It turns out the DDOS was inadvertent and caused by an ill-considered addition to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The logo looks fine to me... I already blogged about it [1]. We are also looking for a logo for the Concept Cloud .. Lydia indicated that there are more t-shirts that can be shipped for another great design :) Thanks, GerardM [1]

[Wikitech-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
this best. Rupert Am 02.12.2013 18:50 schrieb Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than

Re: [Wikitech-l] OpenID deployment delayed until sometime in 2014

2013-11-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, According to the website of myopenid [1], they are closing down Februari 1. My hope was for the Wikimedia Foundation to come to the rescue and provide a non commercial alternative to what Google and Facebook offer. I am extremely disappointed that we are not. I hope that what is done

Re: [Wikitech-l] Operations buy in on Architecture of mwlib Replacement

2013-11-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The current PDF support is broken. It does not support all the languages we support. I do not see that this an explicit requirement. Thanks, GerardM On 14 November 2013 00:02, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey, For the new renderer backend for the Collections

Re: [Wikitech-l] Operations buy in on Architecture of mwlib Replacement

2013-11-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com: On Nov 17, 2013 9:17 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The current PDF support is broken. It does not support all the languages we support. I do not see that this an explicit requirement. That may effect dependencies (fonts/libs/etc

Re: [Wikitech-l] input requested re: metrics for hackathons

2013-10-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please understand that one of the most important aspects do not get caught in numbers.. Particularly the social aspects are very important. The fact that people meet is often enough to get to new levels of understanding, inspiration. This is the reason why people travel all over the world...

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code-in: Lua templates

2013-10-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What would be awesome is when attention is given to the templates on Wikidata as used on the Occitan Wikipedia. It is the one example where data from Wikidata is used to provide information. It can do with a lot of attention to get rid of the many script errors. It can do with attention to

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2013 Datacenter RFP - open for submissions

2013-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Are some of our partners in Wikipedia Zero not caching already ? Thanks, GerardM On 19 October 2013 12:59, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Hi Ken, Op 18-10-2013 22:05, Ken Snider schreef:

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2013 Datacenter RFP - open for submissions

2013-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
them to run a non-discriminatory caching service, it would increase our service and maybe even the cost of transatlantic traffic. Thanks, GerardM On 19 October 2013 13:25, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2013 Datacenter RFP - open for submissions

2013-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
that skill? Do you think they do not have capacity at the key locations of the Internet infrastructure? Thanks, GerardM On 19 October 2013 13:44, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I am not so much

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tarballs of all 2004-2012 Commons files now available at archive.org

2013-10-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Deleted files AFTER the creation of the tarballs were created will always be part of the tarball. If you create logic that works on these archives, it is likely that they will also work on the live data at Commons... MY QUESTION... Yes, it is good to have a backup somewhere. However, what

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting birthday from the sidebar of a wiki page and showing in the home page

2013-10-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are many ways of doing this.. However, when you want this to work for you, it takes a big effort to make this happen. Long term you may have to do the least by using Wikidata. Thanks, Gerard On 3 October 2013 15:02, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: The side bar of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki

2013-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki

2013-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
that but It's working properly in Persian Wikipedia so We need interwiki of categories in order to fill them by bots Best On 9/22/13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant

Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki

2013-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
interwikis was rather key for that. -bawolff On 2013-09-22 5:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] [Analytics] Mobile stats

2013-09-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Is the Wikipedia-Zero traffic information part of the mobile statistics or is it something completely separate thing? Thanks, GerardM On 10 September 2013 03:26, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Wikipedia Zero traffic (IP address and MCC/MNC matching as expected) shows in one

Re: [Wikitech-l] A metadata API module for commons

2013-09-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikidata is able to support a subset of properties needed for infoboxes. The technology is however implemented on several Wikipedias. Recently it became available for use on Wikivoyage. The support for interwiki links is well established on both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia. Probably much of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript to find other articles having the same external link

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With sources stored in Wikidata finding where the same source is used as well is implicit. This is a hack, admittedly a nice hack/. Thanks, GerardM On 26 August 2013 09:27, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: By putting the following code (written by User:EnDumEn) in

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