Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
I was reading bottom up, and probably would not have sent my last message, had I read the later ones first. I appologize as well, I need to learn to let some things roll off, and be less confrontational. Back to work :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

[WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some 24 regulators, but they seem inefficient, and have low voltage disconnects that are sometimes too sensitive - ie: if my battery goes down to 22v, it

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jayson Baker
Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-DCDC-1218eq=Tp= On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Is anyone powering Mikrotiks on Solar? What do you use to keep your solar boost voltage from forcing a shutdown on the Mikrotik? I've used some

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
Should hook directly to the batteries, and convert dc to dc at 20v. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the amp rating is for that? Jayson Baker wrote: Use these: http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-DCDC-1218eq=Tp= On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jayson Baker
A quick check of the Tycon Power website: http://www.tyconpower.com/products/files/TPS_DC_DC_Converter_Spec_Sheet.pdf On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Interesting. That looks like a pacwireless product, but I have not seen it before. Any idea what the

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
What do you use to convert? The tycon power item Jayson pointed to is only 75% efficient, and only can handle up to 1 amp of load (a little too small for me). http://www.tyconpower.com/products/POE_Inserters.htm Any other solutions? Randy Dennis Burgess wrote: Should hook directly to the

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Gino Villarini
We used tose to convert our rb1000 units to dual dc input Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009

[WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar telecommunications towers

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.benton.org/outgoingframe/29127 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
After all, travel is often as much about the journey as it is about the destination. WOW?!?! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Greg
The town of Saddle River NJ fought the phone company and they reached an agreement - the phone company decorated the tower with fake evergreen branches. The tower looks like a big pine tree. If you're ever driving on Rt. 17 look at the big pine tree right next to the highway at the Saddle River

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Scott Parsons that started PacWireless started the company that makes those. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:39 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right to bar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Eje Gustafsson
You can find a lot of fake palm trees in Las Vegas for similar reasons that if they didn't hide the towers then they couldn't put up any more. Drive north towards Nellis airforce base on I-15 on the left side along the rail road tracks one of the palms is not a real palm. There are plenty others

[WISPA] Chimney Ratchet Mount

2009-10-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We usually get these from Radio Shack but they are out. Anyone know who else carries these? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Chimney Ratchet Mount

2009-10-26 Thread Cameron Kilton
www.Perfect-10.tv carries them. They are a DirecTV distributor but they carry a bunch of stuff we use every day for a fraction of the cost from many other carries. However the Sat arms are junk. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Jason Wallace
These guys have dc to dc converters. IIRC, some are 90%+ efficient. I have used their stuff in my solar deployment. http://www.solarconverters.com You can buy their stuff at several online solar stores. Jason Randy Cosby wrote: What do you use to convert? The tycon power item Jayson

Re: [WISPA] Chimney Ratchet Mount

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Ronard? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:13 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Chimney Ratchet Mount

[WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Rogelio
Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes? e.g. TV - set top box - wireless CPE -- wireless stuff outside (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in South America and they're looking for something very low cost) Any suggestions would be

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
Ah, that explains it :) Randy Mike Hammett wrote: Scott Parsons that started PacWireless started the company that makes those. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby

[WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps

2009-10-26 Thread jp
I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf unfriendly building (large metal

Re: [WISPA] BIP/BTOP = Big Government in Missouri

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Mattox
Victoria, I agree with you 110%. When I first looked at what the state was proposing, I saw that it was virtually an overlay of existing fiber routes. What will this do to promote any last mile projects? This governor is not gaining any points with me. I believe your 'stinks' article was

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-26 Thread Randy Cosby
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=SD-25B-24virtualkey6343virtualkey709-SD25B-24 This is one I have tried at another small site, and it seems to work well. Hoped I could find something a little better amperage. The next bigger one these guys makes is too big, and has a fan

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Tom Sharples
We spotted several on a recent road-trip around the Sacramento area. Looked like the world's worst fake Christmas tree from Walmart! Tom S. - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:04 AM

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the righttobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
We have one here that was the result of a negotiation with some of the neighbors. You won't notice it unless you know it's there, but apparently it drops it's plastic needles regularly. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sometimes the cure is worse than the ailment. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the right tobar

Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps

2009-10-26 Thread Jeremy Parr
Tessco should be able to engineer a solution for you. On 10/26/09, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our

Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree. Call the main number and tell sales you need a cell phone repeater. The next guy you talk to should know exactly what you need after he understands what you have. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated

Re: [WISPA] Court says cities have the righttobar telecommunicationstowers

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Reed
I bet that is from the radiation. Especially if they don't grow back. :-) Jeff Broadwick wrote: We have one here that was the result of a negotiation with some of the neighbors. You won't notice it unless you know it's there, but apparently it drops it's plastic needles regularly. Jeff

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really for video you still can only get 2-3 channels. A low-cost solution would be to set up something like a HULU server where the video is compressed enough that the wireless can handle it. -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on each end. All the radio equip was replaced April 08 due to lighting, still have the original 3ft

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Reed
I would suspect the CM9s are going deaf as a possibility as well. Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on each end. All

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Is there anything legit that can be put on a TV with content from Hulu? TVersity, Boxee, etc do not count! On 10/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: TV over wireless is a non-starter. Even if you used MPEG4 which is really for video you still can only get 2-3 channels. A

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
What about the original LMR400? On 10/26/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: I would suspect the CM9s are going deaf as a possibility as well. Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3

Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps

2009-10-26 Thread Matt Musial
Jason, BDA (Bi-Directional Amplifier) and DAS (Distributed Antenna System) systems for In Building applications- are more reliable and carrier class than Wilson, etc... Expensive though. What range does your Femtocell give you?] One thing they all have in common is they require a good clean

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread richard sterne
Where can I find out more about Hula server? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread jason bailey
hawaii,maybe? Sent From My I1000 --- On Mon, 10/26/09, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: From: richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:23 PM Where can I

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Hulu.com On 10/26/09, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find out more about Hula server? Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, According to my path calculator, this link should be -55 on each side. Are you sure it was aligned when it was first installed? Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years.

Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps

2009-10-26 Thread jp
My little home one gives me about a 30' range of boosted signal, but I'm in a spot with a very weak cell signal even on the roof, and mine is hooked up with 50' of 50ohm lmr400 instead of 75 ohm cable like specified, as I already had it running between my roof and basement and it took 2

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread jp
I'd change the LMR jumper and/or feedhorn. There's a strong chance there is water in the jumper and changing it might fix it. There's also a chance that the feedhorn has failed. If you end up changing the feedhorn, consider putting a radome on the dish to protect the feedhorn from weather.

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Mark McElvy
Aligned and re-aligned. I suppose there is a possibility I am catching side lobes. We climbed to realign back in the spring when we had some 70 mph gusts move things. Could not get any better than -85. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Mark McElvy
They have had radome covers since installed Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link stability I'd change the LMR jumper and/or

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread John Valenti
I built one using Zotac Ion motherboard. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500029cm_re=ion-_-13-500-029-_-Product Complete price was just over $200. Running eval of Win7 currently. Works pretty well for Hulu Netflix WatchNow. (hoping for better flash drivers that

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread lakeland
Ok. Weather might be water incursion. CM9 might be PIGTAIL. You didn't say what mfg antenna so its hard to guess. There is always the alignment thing. Did you replace the pigtail after the storm damage? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mark McElvy

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Mark McElvy
Yes, the pigtail was replaced, just not the coax and antenna. It is a PacWireless dish Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread jason bailey
Does anyone remember the old analog wireless cable  systems?They had many channels,using a grid with rg8. The one im referring to was north florida,sure they were elsewhere? Sent From My I1000 --- On Mon, 10/26/09, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote: From: John Valenti

Re: [WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes

2009-10-26 Thread Ryan Spott
http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/wireless-cable/index.html or cableaml.com uses MMDS spectrum (I think?) same freq (2.6Ghz?) clearwire uses. ryan On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, jason bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anyone remember the old analog wireless cable  systems?They had many

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Bret Clark
Yeah...I agree, weather attenuation really only occurs at 10GHz and up. If weather is changing signal quality, then it points to a connection that is no longer weather tight. lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Ok. Weather might be water incursion. CM9 might be PIGTAIL. You didn't say what mfg

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a clear day I am only seeing a -83 on

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread ccrum
I would think you should be seeing a better signal than that. I'd replace cards, pigtails, and LMR again. Cameron Mark McElvy wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on both ends. On a

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Jerry Richardson
it's possible the coax, connectors, or antenna got cooked Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I have a wireless backhaul link that is not as stable as I would like. It is a 15.5 mile shot that has been up for 3 years. MT/CM9/32db dish on

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread Data Technology
CM9's are pretty reliable, but when they have failed for me it is usually with the receive going out. The receive signal will drop about 10db. Keep in mind that with a link you have to figure out which side is giving you the trouble. It could be either tower that has the problem. If it was the

[WISPA] Where can I buy a MT RouterOS level 4 license for x86 (now!)

2009-10-26 Thread os10rules
My 24 hours is expiring and I don't want to pull this unit down. Mikrotik's site wants me to authorize my credit card, a process I've begun but my credit card company won't post the transaction for a few days. Can anyone sell me a level 4 license for an x86 machine now? Thanks! Greg

Re: [WISPA] Where can I buy a MT RouterOS level 4 license for x86 (now!)

2009-10-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
www.roc-noc.com On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:38 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: My 24 hours is expiring and I don't want to pull this unit down. Mikrotik's site wants me to authorize my credit card, a process I've begun but my credit card company won't post the transaction for a few days. Can

[WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStation Loco2 (can i use 2 for bridge?)

2009-10-26 Thread Scott Carullo
I need a 2Ghz bridge from one building to another, about 10 yards. Can I use two nanostation loco 2 radio to do this? I am unfamiliar with the ubiquity radios... Is there something better I should use? I want cheap but more importantly I want to forget its there (reliable). Speed is not

Re: [WISPA] Link stability

2009-10-26 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Was that the best the link would do before the wind? It might seam odd, but have you tried cross pol at one end? Ive got a dish here, the bunp on the feed is 180* off from the specs, made for lots of fun. No no, the paper says this is right, it just isn't lined up half hour later sure, lets flip

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStation Loco2 (can i use 2 for bridge?)

2009-10-26 Thread jason bailey
they work ,very well in-fact. I use them for this purpose,They also have a ping watchdog if u are concerned about stability. I have never had to reboot one with current firmware. Sent From My I1000 --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: From: Scott Carullo

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStation Loco2 (can i use 2 for bridge?)

2009-10-26 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
you will need to use WDS to make a true bridge. Works fine. I would go with a 5ghz radio, if for no other reason then that 99% of 'war drivers' are using 2ghz radios. You could drop to 5mhz channels and get away from that for a while but 5/10 mhz channels are coming to war drivers. Next reason

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStation Loco2 (can i use 2 for bridge?)

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
You could probably do that with one radio in WDS mode if I understand you correctly. On 10/26/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I need a 2Ghz bridge from one building to another, about 10 yards. Can I use two nanostation loco 2 radio to do this? I am unfamiliar with the

Re: [WISPA] Chimney Ratchet Mount

2009-10-26 Thread RickG
Skywalker - $11.99 -RickG On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: We usually get these from Radio Shack but they are out.  Anyone know who else carries these?

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStation Loco2 (can i use 2 for bridge?)

2009-10-26 Thread eje
Loco2 or EOC-1650 if it need to be outdoor units. ECB3220 for if indoor unit is all needed. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Scott Carullo Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: wireless@wispa.org ReplyTo: sc...@brevardwireless.com ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti