[WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/us2010snay.php I know you in CA are like yeah, yeah, big deal... but we only feel them once every few years. No damage that I'm aware of. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois

2010-02-10 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Didn't feel in in SE Missouri. What fault is that? Looks too North to be New Madrid. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 10,

Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not finding anything relevant to answer that question. I'd say about 5 years ago we felt one that was further south. You should have felt that one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: St.

[WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Carullo
Good morning... Looking for a good fiberglass fish tape 250-500 feet Anyone that has any good suggestions on what they have used and like let me know please. I already have the vacuum and string rig the fish tape is for something else... Thanks Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread AJ
We've used a conduit rodder with mixed success in the past - works excellent for buried conduit that is partially blocked; drop ceiling work is a bit more complicated but for the majority of the time, if it's a drop ceiling/plenum space, it's no longer than our standard fish tape.

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread tfadgen
Little Buddy Fish Tape, works great. http://www.wctproducts.com/rodder_page.htm - Original Message Follows - From: Scott Carullo To: Subject: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:50:21 -0500 Good morning... Looking for a good fiberglass fish tape 250-500 feet

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick Leary
Think you are actually looking for a rodder, not so much a fish tape. I assume you are running something through coduit that is partially full or because your are trying to get past a crush of partial break (the only two real reasons to use a fiber glass rodder). If you are going into an occupied

[WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Marco Coelho
and allow rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_network sounds very

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Glenn Kelley
of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_network sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC. I wonder how you make money giving it away? -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Jack Unger
clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_network sounds very dot commy to me: Best

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Robert West
feature film in less than five minutes and allow rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Robert West
be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC. I wonder how you make money giving it away? -- Marco C

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC. I wonder how you

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Glenn Kelley
minutes and allow rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Robert West
and allow rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread David Hulsebus
I like the glow rods, we use 4 ft sections of a fiberglass rods with threaded ends that I bought 30 years ago to clean my chimney. I have 40 ft. I think I paid less than $5 for extension rods without a bristle head. I've seen them at Walmart and Tractor Supply. Dave Hulsebus AJ wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Jack Unger
eb. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Robert West
I use the same things, love em! I use them in drop ceilings, can certainly see them in the dark! They are also my favorite tool with vinyl siding. I hate putting holes in vinyl siding so I use a siding tool to separate the sections, push the rods in the gap at the corner of the house behind the

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Glow rods are the best things since sliced bread! AKA fish sticks, fiber poles, etc. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_network sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_network sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC. I wonder how you make money giving it away? -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Hammett
be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about 1K-5K within a NOC. I wonder how you make money giving it away? -- Marco C

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
rural health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_ne twork sounds very dot

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Randy Cosby
One other factor to consider. On Google's existing fiber nets, how much of that traffic is outbound, how much is inbound? Likely they are a mirror image of our usage. They have tons of extra capacity available on the inbound side just waiting to be used. -- Randy Cosby Vice President

Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politics andLaw - CNET News

2010-02-10 Thread Jack Unger
Not only don't they pay for it but they are also in favor of it because it gives them JOBS... good, government JOBS. Thus government gets even bigger with no real results to show for it and with a further reduction in the rights granted citizens by the Bill of Rights.

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy to me: Best price on a 1G pipe is about

Re: [WISPA] Google to build ultra-fast broadband networks

2010-02-10 Thread Randy Cosby
health clinics to send 3-D medical images over the Web. Google says it will seek input from communities that might be interested in getting one of the testbed networks. end of article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_google_broadband_netw ork sounds very dot commy

[WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been running a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've long outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack running v4.5 that we're going to use for our expansion and convert existing

[WISPA] is Google our next competitor?

2010-02-10 Thread RickG
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222700747 -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] is Google our next competitor?

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
Google said it will offer network access to between 50,000 and 500,000 people at a competitive prices. I like how they are estimating by a whole order of magnitude. My company is likely to hook up between 20 and 200 new customers this month. -Paul On Feb 10, 2010, at 2:11 PM, RickG wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Bret Clark
Paul Gerstenberger wrote: I'm having a heck of a time setting up OSPF for my network. We've been running a switched network with a Riverstone router on the border, but we've long outgrown that configuration. I have a Mikrotik RB1000U in the rack running v4.5 that we're going to use for our

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Steven McGehee
Hi all, Yeah we use fiber glass push rods from GreenLee. We picked them up at Graybar, could certainly find them cheaper I'm sure, but we got them years ago... anyway, they're flexible, slim, and work great in any application where you have a decent amount of elbow room and don't need to bend

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Ours (from Lowe's) take a lot more abuse in bending then I ever expected. Only seen two rods break in ~5 years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”

[WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: is Google our next competitor?

2010-02-10 Thread RickG
Sorry. After I sent this I noticed another thread was already started. Your post made me change the subject line though :) On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote: Google said it will offer network access to between 50,000 and 500,000 people at a competitive

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread lakeland
www.laborsavingdevices com Something for everyone. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:34:14 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT Glow rods are

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Jeremie Chism
Magnapull from tech tool supply is a great help when pulling through walls. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:39 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: www.laborsavingdevices com Something for everyone. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh

Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern Illinois

2010-02-10 Thread lakeland
It was somebodies fault. I have an alibi. :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:51:20 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Earthquake in Northern

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
{provider} ---[ static 0.0.0.0/0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ]--- {riverstone ASBR} ---[10.0.4.1 OSPF Backbone 10.0.4.2]--- {mikrotik} --- x.x.x.x/24 public addresses I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work fine. However if I attach them to the mikrotik they get

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 10 February 2010 19:43, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote: {provider} ---[  static 0.0.0.0/0  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  ]--- {riverstone ASBR} ---[10.0.4.1   OSPF Backbone   10.0.4.2]--- {mikrotik} --- x.x.x.x/24 public addresses I can attach those public addresses directly to the

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Bret Clark
Paul Gerstenberger wrote: {provider} ---[ static 0.0.0.0/0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ]--- {riverstone ASBR} ---[10.0.4.1 OSPF Backbone 10.0.4.2]--- {mikrotik} --- x.x.x.x/24 public addresses I can attach those public addresses directly to the riverstone and they work fine. However if I

Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: is Google our next competitor?

2010-02-10 Thread Glenn Kelley
It is official Google has already started ! As shown on the official Google TISP website: Sick of paying for broadband that you have to, well, pay for? Introducing Google TiSP (BETA), our new FREE in-home wireless broadband service. Sign up today and we'll send you your TiSP self-

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread eje
Got a default route on the MikroTik pointing to your riverstone box? /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:43:14 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default

Re: [WISPA] Fish Tape / OT

2010-02-10 Thread Robert West
I'm with ya. The clear plastic tube they came in is broken all to hell but the rods are still perfect. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:57 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politics andLaw - CNET News

2010-02-10 Thread Glenn Kelley
From BlackHat Convention: The backdoors that Cisco and other networking companies implement in their routers and switches for lawful intercept are front and center again at this week's Black Hat security conference. A few years ago, they were cause celebre in some VoIP wiretapping

[WISPA] Redline AN80i PMP firmware question

2010-02-10 Thread Steven G McGehee
Hello, Was curious if anyone here uses Redline AN80i hardware, and if so, if you had upgraded to the new firmware version that came out late December. Specifically, I'm referring to version RL80PMPZ__1200_46.zip. We've been having several miscellaneous, bad firmware problems with a sector

Re: [WISPA] Routing Help [Default Route to OSPF]

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
There are a number of blackhole routes and ACL lines for unallocated IPs, that's why it's so long. Probably overkill. I'm not running NAT on the mikrotik, but I'm planning doing so with some of these IPs. [ad...@mikrotik] /routing ospf export # feb/11/2010 05:34:32 by RouterOS 4.5 # software

Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: is Google our next competitor?

2010-02-10 Thread Philip Dorr
That is almost 3 years old, and I still have not received my installation kit. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: It is official Google has already started ! As shown on the official Google TISP website: Sick of paying for broadband that you have to,