Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Scott, I think others have already provided sufficient comments regarding the benefits hardware redundancy vs standby routers. We have both. Hardware redundancy in a GSR, router redundancy with another GSR in a separate geographical location. Continuous operation (hardware redundancy) in the

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Scott Reed
You can plug one cable into 2 ports if it goes into a port that does bypassing. I am just guessing you can't have 1 Ethernet cable plugged into 2 ports on a single box either. When that port dies, all the redundancy in the box is worthless. Just for clarification, the 2 boxes ARE redundant.

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Wait, you had ANY problem and MT told you to upgrade? No - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/2/2010 10:39 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Agreed. Breaking about once a month or possibly even more frequently than that is what we started to see with one

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi Rubens, We've found Quagga to be rock solid with the typical application which is under a dozen peers. We did add a patch to prevent the never-emptying work queue backlog problem when multiple peers flap at the same time. I'm sure this is the problem the IXP folks ran into. Quagga is a very

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: Hi Rubens, We've found Quagga to be rock solid with the typical application which is under a dozen peers. We did add a patch to prevent the never-emptying work queue backlog problem when multiple peers flap at

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Blake, I addressed the Quagga comments in a separate email. As to your comment about bridging, of course you don't need to bridge to use iBGP. I was specifically talking about using redundant routers in disparate locations. We have lots of customers who are using ImageStream routers

Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi Rubens, Given the number of deployments we have in the field that are rock solid, I'd be happy to refer you to some of our customers so you can see for yourself whether they think Quagga is worthwhile. ☺ Jeff ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 From:

[WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Jason Hensley
Will an NS2 run on 24v or will it fry it? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Any Juniper fans / users on this list ? I have a couple of questions about them. Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/4/2010 11:16 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Hi Rubens, Given the number of deployments we have in the field that are rock solid, I'd be happy to refer

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Original works 12 to 25v according to my notes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Will an NS2 run on 24v or will it fry it?

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
25v is the upper limit for most of the ubiquity radios. http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/wiki/UBNT-AOS_prod-specs-gen_5.pdf Better to run things on a voltage lower then the max 24v would be appropriate if it is 24v exactly and you are expecting voltage drop due to long cables.. Keep in

Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
For what it's worth, RouterOS 4.13 installed on the SuperMicro 5015A-H without a hitch (CF in a flash reader w/ netinstall). It actually booted on 2.9.50 (old flash), but lacked network interfaces. The performance difference between the P3 800 and the Atom 330 was minimal (as it relates to BGP

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
GREAT link. Note that the Powerbridge M5 does have a usb port, it says otherwise. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: 25v is the upper limit for most of the

[WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread can...@believewireless.net
What companies sell the SAF 24GHz radio besides 3-Db? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm willing to bet LMG does. Mind if I ask why you need someone besides 3db? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:52 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: What companies sell the SAF

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Jeremie Chism
Altius Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'm willing to bet LMG does. Mind if I ask why you need someone besides 3db? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Jeremie Chism
Baltic networks Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'm willing to bet LMG does. Mind if I ask why you need someone besides 3db? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I think balticnetworks also picked them up recently. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/4/2010 11:52 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: What companies sell the SAF 24GHz radio besides 3-Db? WISPA

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
Gino Villarini does as well, he's a WISP and has experience with them in the real world. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I think balticnetworks also picked them up recently. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/4/2010

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you overnight products from PR? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Gino Villarini does as well, he's a WISP and has experience with them in the real world.

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Mike Goicoechea
We sell SAF and are a WISPA Vendor member. Please let us know if we can assist. Thanks, Mike Goicoechea VP of Operations Cielo Systems International 806-977-9001 ext 101 806-763-1945 fax Skype Mike.Goik m...@cielosystems.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] PPPoE Concentrator Redundancy

2010-11-04 Thread Tim McNabb
I’ll try to paint the picture a little more now on this. We are getting a new feed at a separate location from where our current fiber is at. The idea is to traverse our existing network and utilize both routers as edge routers and concentrators, and to get them to load balance between the two

Re: [WISPA] Change AP

2010-11-04 Thread ~NGL~
Has anyone used a FLR9G30 sold by XAGYL Communications as an AP to Tranzeo TR-902 Clients? Thanx NGL -- From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:04 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Change AP Sorry,

Re: [WISPA] PPPoE Concentrator Redundancy

2010-11-04 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Per my engineer: The Internet side load balancing will still be performed by BGP with an iBGP connection between the two edge routers. As long as both locations are L2 bridged, PPPoE will provide load balancing as Blake outlined. There will probably be some latency difference between the two

Re: [WISPA] Change AP

2010-11-04 Thread ~NGL~
I do not know anything regarding Routerboards, if I use a RB493AH which has 3 mini-pci slots, can I install 3 GZ-902 cards and have 3 900mhz AP's in 1 box? NGL -- From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:07 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Change AP

2010-11-04 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 14:43, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I do not know anything regarding Routerboards, if I use a RB493AH which has 3 mini-pci slots, can I install 3 GZ-902 cards and have 3 900mhz AP's in 1 box? You probably could, but you might not want to. You'd have three APs, all in the

Re: [WISPA] SAF Radios

2010-11-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
Mike @ Cielo is good to work with as well, I've worked with him multiple times. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Mike Goicoechea m...@cielosystems.net wrote: We sell SAF and are a WISPA Vendor member. Please let us know if we can assist. Thanks, Mike Goicoechea VP of

[WISPA] looking for Contract Installer for our WISP

2010-11-04 Thread support
Hey Guys, I'm looking for A Contract Installer for our WISP in the Knox Indiana area this would be for Home installs anyone know of a company near by? Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net

[WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Matt
We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and vertical at once to increase throughput? We are currently considering Exalt. Short coming of 11 ghz and longish 25 mile hops is throughput. We do not need a lot

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Alan Bryant
We have been using one Dragonwave 11 ghz link with absolutely no problems. It is about 7 miles. We are putting up two Nera 11 ghz links right now. One is about 17 miles, the other about 10 miles. So far the support from Nera is not the greatest. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matt

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 16:20, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and vertical at once to increase throughput? We are currently considering Exalt. Short coming of 11

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Nick Olsen
I've worked with a few of the Trango Apex 11ghz links. Running 256QAM they will do ~258Mb/s full duplex, or something like that. .8 to 1ms across it, With 10Mb/s or 200Mb/s of traffic on it. So far, They've been the best links I've had the pleasure of working with. In terms of performance, And

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Blake Covarrubias
We use Trango GigaLinks almost exclusively in our network; 6ghz, 11ghz, 18ghz, and 23ghz. They work very well support thus far has been great. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 4, 2010, at 14:43, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I've worked with a few of the Trango Apex 11ghz links.

[WISPA] Spectrum Bridge whitespaces webinar now on Youtube

2010-11-04 Thread John Valenti
FYI I listened to this webinar last week , they have now loaded it on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/spectrumbridge The best news I picked up from it was that they expect hardware to be available early second quarter 2011. I hope that is accurate, I was afraid it would be much later. -John

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Scott Carullo
Its hit or miss, some will run on 24v some will not. Thats my experience. I just mark them with a pencil so when they come out of the box I know which is which... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: Jason Hensley

Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Full BGP on RouterOS

2010-11-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Any Juniper fans / users  on this list ? I have a couple of questions about them. M-series: Very good, but are aging very fast. Good to buy used, though. MX-series: The new king of the hill. The first J's I would

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread RickG
I've been running the UBNT 24 volt power supplies on several of my tower UBNT radios due to the reset feature. Mike @ UBNT says 24 is fine. In fact, he says new NS2's 5's will be coming with 24 volt power supplies. BTW: Watch out because the POE LAN ports are opposite of their 15 volt units! On

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Robert West
Here's some craziness some may not play with. I use the PoE USB injectors to power them up with the lowly netbook's USB port... (hasn't failed with any UBNT device yet) to hang and aim. So they will perform fine at 5v on a short leash to get them in place. Then power up to 24v Unless,

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed. We have had Ser# 0001 11GHz Trango GigaLINK in service since early 2008 among several others since then with great service. The few times we’ve needed Trango support they have been extremely responsive and helpful. I think we also have one of the first if not the first 18GHz

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
The air must be different there. I can't stand Ceragon stuff. Nothing but problems. Zero support. The firmware is terrible as is the interface. On Nov 4, 2010 9:58 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Agreed. We have had Ser# 0001 11GHz Trango GigaLINK in service since early 2008 among

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Brad Belton
Ceragon Telnet interface is terrible? I've never used the CeraView software, but not much to complain about with the Telnet interface. Then again I can't stand the Trango web GUI either.I only use Telnet for our Trango links. So if you're a GUI guy then I understand. If we can pretty much

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
My Ceragons do not have a telnet interface. After finding it was the Win32 app alone I knew it would be a disaster. The customer that had us put them up, my first experience, had a Tsunami link work for the better part of a decade. The Ceragon worked for a few months, at the most, before an IDU

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Chuck Bartosch
To be honest Josh, didn't you tell me your problems were with what was at one time a sister company, Radwin, and not Ceragon? Yet you call the company Ceragon when you've told me it was really Radwin. It really isn't fair to be tarring and feathering Ceragon due to the problems with

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Says Ceragon on the boxes. They appear identical in hardware and software to the Radwins we bought with the company. Just FYI. On Nov 5, 2010 12:03 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: To be honest Josh, didn't you tell me your problems were with what was at one time a sister

Re: [WISPA] NS2 with 24v

2010-11-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, considering it ships with 24V UBNT PS, yes it supports 24V Should use regulated PS, to make sure stays under 25V. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] Change AP

2010-11-04 Thread Jerry Richardson
Negative. You could run a 900MHz, 2.4GHz, and 5.7GHz card though. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Change AP I do

Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops

2010-11-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
Trango also does that now to. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Alan Bryant a...@gtekcommunications.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed