Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-13 Thread Jon Auer
You can do tag swapping and other fancy VLAN tricks in AirOS by creating VLAN subints and mapping them to each other using bridge interfaces. The Linux bridge interface behaves more like a switch than a bridge in that you can control mac aging, learning, etc so it doesn't blindly forward traffic.

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-13 Thread Mike Hammett
to home-run some more cable, but so is life. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:44:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-13 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 23:16 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Of course they fit the networks they're capable of, because they're capable of so little. ;-) I'm honestly working to remove all the RB250s from my house's network as they've become too annoying. I'll have to home-run some more cable,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Dustin Jurman
Hey Fred, we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed links between MEF switches. Rapid deployment with fiber forward design. I think we have been through all configurations, bridging, routing and layer2 switching. You could not hit the nail on the head any better

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Steve Barnes
Of Dustin Jurman Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:52 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers Hey Fred, we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed links between MEF switches. Rapid deployment with fiber forward design. I

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Tim Densmore
Hi Fred, Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that? TD On 10/11/2012 06:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: Hi Fred, Could you expand a bit on this? It sounds like you're describing what I'd refer to as virtual circuits rather than switching. Are you setting up per-customer VLANs or something like that? It helps if you think of it as Ethernet-framed Frame

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's say you have a building (say, Town Hall)

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 05:48 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 10:52 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote: There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP vendors MT and UBNT. MT has a new CPE router with SFP support. This would be great for a regional CE fiber network. Let's

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. We build our Fixed wireless pop's with a Mikrotik Router doing the Routing Functions at each pop. Each of the Sectors are connected on their

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. Actually, I said that I don't know how to do it, not that it can or cannot be done. It may be a

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens arthur.steph...@ptera.net wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Faisal Imtiaz On 10/12/2012 7:19 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble translating what Fred is trying to do with a Mikrotik, which he thinks it cannot do. Actually, I said that I don't

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Scott Reed
NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Scott Reed
MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully accessible through the GUI. They also have a switch sort of based on ROS. On 10/11/2012 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread LTI - Dennis Burgess
What is being described is the default behavior of any standard managed switch. There is no virtual circuit being built and it still broadcasts across said VLAN. They are simply only allowing the VLAN to go from point A to point B. This though can be done at wire speed in the hardware of any

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:19:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers At 10/12/2012 07:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Being a Technical person, and a visual learner.. I am having trouble

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:16:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Mike Hammett
All MT switching is junk. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:18:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-12 Thread Fred Goldstein
Mike Hammett duly noted, Fred, I don't think most of the people here understand what YOU'RE talking about. They think a switch is just a switch and they're all the same, but that's far from the truth. Probably true, which is why I'd like to clarify it. Vendors who sell primarily to ISPs

[WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Eric Tykwinski
My boss just picked up a Rocket M2 and a few PicoStation 2s for a free WiFi access point situation. Basically, it's going to be a star grid running WDS from the Rocket to each Pico with AP access at each location. My problem is the Rocket doesn't seem to want to do AP-Repeater for some reason,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
? What makes you think the Rocket is acting as a station? First, can you define a few? The suggestion of what you want to do is almost certainly a bad idea and will result in poor performance unless you are only planning to feed the main AP with a meg or two. None-the-less. If you insist

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Eric Tykwinski
to point to the Rocket. I've tried both 5.5 and 5.5.2 firmware without any luck. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
any luck. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question ? What makes you think the Rocket is acting

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Matt Brendle
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question With just the rocket on it isn't acting as an AP? You've got something misconfigured then. Can you attach a screenshot

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question

2012-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - quick question With just the rocket on it isn't acting as an AP? You've got something misconfigured then. Can you attach a screenshot of your MAIN Rocket tab as well as the WIRELESS tab? On 10/11/12 10:02 AM, Eric Tykwinski wrote: Not my

[WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Arthur Stephens
We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Greg Osborn
Very few customers know any difference. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquitiradios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using theUbiquitiradio as a

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Almost all of my customers have NAT'ed Ubnt CPE radios. The handful that need a static get charged for it (or free if business) and then I do the port forwrading for them. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Fabien
We run Ubiquiti CPE in router mode and it acts as the NAT router for the customer. We install a wifi router inside as part of standard install package, but just run it as a switch+AP. This gives us more visibility into customer network for troubleshooting and abuse detection (why does this house

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Barnes
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Stephens Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:47 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Sam Tetherow
We do it because it makes customer maintenance a lot easier. They can replace/remove their router without having to call the office or changing settings in their computer or router, everything comes with DHCP enabled default. There are very few places where the customer will ever know. If

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Scott Reed
We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
I did this for the first time last week. It seems to work fine. On 10/11/2012 12:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquitiradios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Sam Tetherow
Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? There could be one NAT, at the access point. My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless network (but plan to), is to follow what

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

2012-10-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:35:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote: Not sure I under stand

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-16 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:55:18AM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more than 100 days uptime, you have to reboot them BEFORE doing a firmware upgrade or else when they come

[WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi all I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router. Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router instead of other well knows products From my perspective the value or a core/edge

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta. It's even stated as such on their forums... Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi all I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router. Well,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Greg Ihnen
Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless gear? Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set) *and*easy?

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:14 AM To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? They hired

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
My comments? Why would I *NOT* buy a Ubiquiti router? Ubiquiti equipment is pretty rock stable once the infantile bugs get worked out. Right now I use MikroTik routers and I find their lack of support, and ignoring of bugs to be a HUGE problem. Have you frequented the forums? Try posting

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
...@level7.it; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta. It's even stated as such on their forums... Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Greg, I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas? But that's what they are... betas. Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't had any problems with the final releases of software. I can't count the number of

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Tim Densmore
Hi Matt, As an edge/border router? Will it take full IPv4 and IPv6 tables? Has anyone seen what it takes to tip one over with PPS? I'm not sure about these answers for Tiks, either, but positioning a software-based gui-box as an edge router seems like a recipe for disaster to me. I want to

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been up for over 2+ years. We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
It's a good idea to reboot ANYTHING that has been up that long before doing a firmware upgrade. On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:52, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
That's only with a Linux Kernel used before Airos 5.5. That's gone now. Also I don't believe it has anything to do with firmware upgrades, least not that I saw. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
It doesn't have to be GUI driven. You can configure it via CLI just like any other router. To that argument a Cisco can be setup with a GUI - but most people don't. I don't have the numbers handy but there was a Tolly report that came out showing the PPS I believe. On Sep 14, 2012, at

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has failed on over the years and has EOL'd the product as a result. Look at GPS Sync in the RM5/RM2 product lines. Look at ToughCable L1/L2. Look at LiteStations. Wonder why they are EOL? I give praise to UBNT when praise

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
So there have been a few lemons. They got or are getting resolved. Don't focus on the few failures. Look at all the products and the huge success! The EdgeRouters are already being used by a few people and the reviews are great. On Sep 14, 2012, at 12:01, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/14/2012 11:38 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: They are focusing on their core product (wireless). The team there has not been taken to any other projects. Rather, the income from the wireless has generated enough profits that they can hire NEW teams in order to be able to expand their product lines.

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
The war started 5 years ago in Orlando when Mike Ford was removed from the MUM and was told that MikroTik had no interest in a working relationship with UBNT. At that time UBNT was only focused on miniPCI radios and trying to have an open/working relationship with MikroTik/StarOS. I think after

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Tim Densmore
The GUI wasn't meant to be the focus of my question, sorry if it was a distraction. I see that they're comparing the edgemax to the 3900 now, so nevermind. Edge means something different to me than it means other (marketing?) folks, apparently. Positioned against the 3900, especially

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread KevinR
Have you seen the Tolly testing reports? I suggest you take a look at the comparison to Mikrotik, Cisco, and Juniper. http://tolly.com/ts/2012/Ubiquiti/Ed...VsMikroTik.pdf http://tolly.com/ts/2012/Ubiquiti/Ed...erformance.pdf___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
That's PPS per dollar. When I spend $100 or $200 for a router at each tower site, I'm not worried about the PPS per dollar, I want the feature set of Mikrotik. Otherwise I would just put in a mini-itx board with Linux and some static routes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
You don't upgrade firmware on your Ciscos? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:52:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Densmore tdensm...@tarpit.cybermesa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:45:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hi Matt, As an edge/border router? Will it take full IPv4 and IPv6 tables? Has anyone seen what it takes

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Bowsher
...@midwaynet.netmailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? That's PPS per dollar. When I spend $100

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread KevinR
Did you look at both documents? It also compares a whole lot of performance. And don't forget that it is comparing the Lite version which will be the smallest unit they have. I agree on your feature set comment, but features can be added, it's Vyatta with a Debian base, UBNT custom GUI, and

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:06:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? At 9/14/2012 11:38 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:33:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? That's PPS per dollar. When I spend $100 or $200 for a router at each tower site, I'm not worried about the PPS per dollar, I want the feature set of Mikrotik. Otherwise I would

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I will say we've had a higher instance of lightning problems with ubnt gear than our moto gear. Time will tell... - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been up

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
very true. +1 - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has failed on over

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:01:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has failed on over the years and has EOL'd the product as a result. Look at GPS Sync in the RM5

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Justin Wilson
How many of you remember how long it took the Mikrotik product to become truly stable? I didn't feel 100% comfortable with wired routing until version 3.x. Wireless was kinda flaky until 3.x as well. 4.x really improved things. It's all about software. At least UBNT has a great knowledge base to

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
hah, agreed. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:13:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Not to mention nstreme and WDS would associate but upon ANY load would drop. Boy was I pissed that they let you configure it in a way that was never actually possible. At least Ubnt doesn't let you select things in the GUI that absolutely won't work. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Doug Clark
Date: 9/14/2012 9:32:18 AM To: WISPA General List; paolo.difrance...@level7.it Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything from show cones to tennis shoesÂ… IMHO they should focus on the core products Its

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2012 12:19:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? The thing that amazes me is that they have a hit with their wireless gear and surveillance line. They can not even keep up with production on either line.. Why UBNT is determined to sell

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Kevin Radunz
To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? They are focusing on their core product (wireless). The team there has not been taken to any other projects. Rather, the income from the wireless has generated

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Doug Clark
and actually taking down Canopy FSK to replace it with UBNT 2X2 ~Doug ---Original Message--- From: Matt Hoppes Date: 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Greg, I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Brad Belton
and would rather UBNT put all their efforts into developing faster radio technology. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Clark Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Doug Clark
Just had a RocketM5 running 5.5.2 hang up and need a powercycle to come back to life two days ago. Maybe it has something to do with Utah ---Original Message--- From: Brad Belton Date: 9/14/2012 11:41:59 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
up and need a powercycle to come back to life two days ago. Maybe it has something to do with Utah *---Original Message---* *From:* Brad Belton b...@belwave.com *Date:* 9/14/2012 11:41:59 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Tom Sharples
Clark Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything from show cones to tennis shoes… IMHO they should focus on the core products Its like the VC approach

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
to come back to life two days ago. Maybe it has something to do with Utah /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Brad Belton mailto:b...@belwave.com /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 11:41:59 AM /*To:*/ 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Brad Belton
] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Probably a PEBKAC =) Are you putting them on batteries? Are you regulating the voltage? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Doug Clark
You know it! All my towers are easy to get to and within 20 minutes of my office. I know better than to put towers on top of 9000 ft mountains like you guys. ---Original Message--- From: Matt Date: 9/14/2012 11:58:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2012-09-14 at 11:20 -0400, Greg Ihnen wrote: Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set) and easy? Of course it will be easy! It says right on their page that the Advanced UI

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Justin Wilson
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Matt, Have to disagree with you here. UBNT equipment does not just run.. It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come back. If you want equipment that JUST

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Jim Patient
] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? I want the feature set, but I also want performance. Neither company has approved 10Gigabit systems out yet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
/---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM /*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Greg, I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Matt, Have to disagree with you here. UBNT equipment does not just run.. It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come back. If you want equipment that JUST RUNS and requires

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Ben Moore
: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? ** ** Matt, Have to disagree with you here. UBNT equipment does not just run.. It locks up for no reason and requires a power cycle in order to come back. If you want equipment that JUST RUNS and requires no baby

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Ben Moore
. ---Original Message--- From: Gino Villarini Date: 9/14/2012 9:32:18 AM To: WISPA General List ; paolo.difrance...@level7.it Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything from show cones to tennis shoes

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
/---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Matt Hoppes mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com /*Date:*/ 9/14/2012 9:42:32 AM /*To:*/ WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org /*Subject:*/ Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Ben Moore
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? ** ** They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta. It's even stated as such on their forums... Regards, Chuck On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Doug Clark
+1 ---Original Message--- From: Chuck Hogg Date: 9/14/2012 12:18:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Let's take a look at the SR2. It was poorly designed to have a rf switch chip that changed between u.fl and mmcx

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
they are the largest disto in the US. Streakwave. *---Original Message---* *From:* Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com *Date:* 9/14/2012 12:50:15 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hi Doug, Which

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
. *---Original Message---* *From:* Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com *Date:* 9/14/2012 12:50:15 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hi Doug, Which products are you having a hard time finding? Thanks, Ben On Fri

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Justin Wilson
...@mtin.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? I've never seen encryption issues when using UBNT gear to UBNT gear. Regardless, you should run it because it limits the paths where someone COULD sniff your customer's traffic. Even if your upstream isn't encrypted, you

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Cc: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? I've never seen encryption issues when using UBNT gear to UBNT gear. Regardless, you should run it because it limits the paths where someone COULD sniff your customer's traffic. Even if your

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... airCAM Pro...

2012-09-14 Thread Brad Belton
] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hi Mike, Definitely more work to be done on the cameras...They are being used successfully, but there is definitely work to be done and hardware

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... airCAM Pro...

2012-09-14 Thread Ben Moore
:49 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? ** ** Hi Mike, Definitely more work to be done on the cameras...They are being used successfully, but there is definitely work to be done and hardware added. Thanks, Ben On Fri, Sep

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Ben Moore
...@gmail.com *Date:* 9/14/2012 12:50:15 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? Hi Doug, Which products are you having a hard time finding? Thanks, Ben On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

2012-09-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:08:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router? We have a dual port 10GigE module for the Powerouter 2200 series. Thx, Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://wlan1.com http://towercoverage.com http://www.linktechs.net

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