Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Jack Unger
--- From: "Mike" mailto:m...@aweiowa.comm...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Mike
: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free space path loss is greater at 5.8 GHz than

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Jack Unger
" mailto:m...@aweiowa.comm...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. An

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-24 Thread Mike
23, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free space path loss is greater at 5.8 GHz than at 2.4 GHz

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! U, only partially. The old TV antennas were combo antennas that usually had a log periodic antenna for VHF and some sort of arrangement for UHF, usually a corner reflector, bow tie or something. Because they were designed to be so wide

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread John Valenti
. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB its

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
this at FISPA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
: "Mike" m...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free space path loss is grea

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free space path loss is greater at 5.8

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB its not on my radar of concern. Actually in our market

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
...@dot11net.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Mike, you are certainly correct about the propagation characteristics. This is both good and bad depending on how people plan to deploy. I think that a lot of people are thinking

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Jack: If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at 300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't need a 'TV sized antenna. If *MANY* 6 MHz wide allocations

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
A. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.comhttp://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike" mailto:m...@aweiowa.comm...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" mailto:w

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
:06 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Jack: If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at 300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't need a 'TV sized antenna

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
: Mike mailto:m...@aweiowa.comm...@aweiowa.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
rom: mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their interne

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread John Valenti
Mike, First, take everything I saw about this with a grain of salt, because I'm no expert. From my reading of the RO, there are two types of whitespace device. There is a low power version, that I think is intended to be like a mini-PCI card, installed in a laptop. There are no height

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Robert West
I don't know why Microsoft would even want to include Dell in any of that, they have the muscle to wipe everyone but Google out of the way. But if Microsoft is involved, poor service and failed applications will soon follow. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Carullo
not playing the game. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! See the attached Case Study

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Gino Villarini
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Robert West
Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jack Unger
deliver 10-20MB your not playing the game. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: "Jack Unger" jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [W

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB its not on my radar of concern. Actually in our market

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jack Unger
ott Carullo" sc...@brevardwireless.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilize

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Hammett
, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think