: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This may have already been answered or may not be exactly what you are looking
for, but: http://showmywhitespace.com/ shows what is available.
Scottie
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From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Tom,
Could you give us a hint how we would find this info?
Randy
It might
.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM
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Tom
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Jenkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:52 PM
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You might have a lot of pigs
Cosby dco...@infowest.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Tom,
Could you give us a hint how we would find this info?
Randy
It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:04 PM
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Tom,
Could you give us a hint how we would find this info?
Randy
It might be a good idea for WISPs to look up their Whitechannel
availabilty
in their areas
...@smarterbroadband.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
You might have a lot of pigs, but I am guessing you haven't dealt with
forest. I have areas where it takes a 200ft tower to mostly beat the
foliage
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Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS
rural
market. At that power level
This is a great report good job guys and thank you.
Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from your posts.
The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to right.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From:
L-R
Ryan, John, Alex, Jack and Stephen.
ryan
On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
This is a great report good job guys and thank you.
Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from
your posts. The picture in the report, can you give us a
...@aweiowa.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:41 AM
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This is a great report good job guys
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mike
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts
I second everybody else's enthusiasm and appreciation for the
committee's efforts here. This is one of the primary reasons we are a
WISPA member and I recommend annual we continue contributing to this
group. Thanks again guys!
Dylan
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:56 AM
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Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work. What channel
width are you going to need to have a usable system. I mean in the VHF band
of 54
'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS rural
market. At that power level, and circular polarization, I
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Mike, though I agree that circular polarization could work. What channel
width are you going to need to have a usable system
: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS rural
:24 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
turnstile antenna on the CPE, and it would be a perfect fit for THIS
rural
market. At that power
] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This is a great report good job guys and thank you.
Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from your
posts. The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to
right.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet
...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors, a
turnstile antenna
In-line ...
A Couple questions.
3. Is there something wrong or more encombersome with Bands 1-X (7?), that
we dont know about or do know about?
We know the size of radiators in the lower portion would be greater.
However, lower frequencies propagate better, and a half wave
Wireless Broadband
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From: John Scrivnerj...@scrivner.com
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
I am not sure where you get your assumptions
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of John Scrivner
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:17 AM
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I am not sure where you get your assumptions but they are not correct. Every
television channel has
On 4/5/2010 11:02 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
A Couple questions.
First, I would agree, any Whitespace spectrum is good spectrum for us, and
better than none.
But, why does the FCC keep hypothetically asking us what about VHF
channels 1-x the lower part of the band?
I think when we met
Leon:
Innovation will be key. Yes, a 6 meter vertical is large. But, what if you
bent that quarter wave into an odd shape? Think fractals, cloverleafs, and
other HORIZONATL elements. Comparing what we'd HAVE to use compared to a TV
Yagi is apples to oranges. Besides, most TV antennas I have
Channel 2 (54-60 MHz) 102 259cm
Channel 3 (60-66 MHz) 92 234cm
Channel 4 (66-72 MHz) 83 211cm
Channel 6 (82-88 MHz) 72 183cm
A typical antenna for low-band VHF:
http://www.antennacraft.net/pdfs/Y5-2-6.pdf from
On 4/5/2010 12:18 PM, Mike wrote:
Leon:
Innovation will be key. Yes, a 6 meter vertical is large. But, what if you
bent that quarter wave into an odd shape? Think fractals, cloverleafs, and
other HORIZONATL elements. Comparing what we'd HAVE to use compared to a TV
Yagi is apples to
Just for discussion, let's say a TV LPDA has a gain of 8 dBi. It will cover
the entire VHF TV band, and by superimposing a UHF LPDA on the same mast,
can cover the entire UHF TV band with similar gain figures.
I'd make this challenge:
I could TRY to hide a TV band LPDA on my property and beg
in both
intended and unintended areas.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Jack Unger
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:55 PM
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Depends on the distance
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:23 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Awesome report! Thanks.
Give me equipment capable of 20 watts, circularly polarized sectors
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From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Mike, though I agree that circular polarization
...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:59 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Just for discussion, let's say a TV LPDA has a gain of 8 dBi. It will
cover
the entire VHF TV band, and by superimposing a UHF LPDA on the same
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:10 PM
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While it wouldn't need to cover the entire range, I'd expect at a most
239.770.6203
m...@aweiowa.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:23 PM
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Then the problem
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:39 PM
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Have you ever taken a really good look at an FM
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Have you ever taken a really good look at an FM
: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Then the problem arises of frequency reuse if we have such low gain
antenna
all over the place... and the size of a sector antenna for towers.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
, April 05, 2010 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Then the problem arises of frequency reuse if we have such low gain
antenna
all over the place... and the size of a sector antenna for towers.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 12:39 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Have you ever taken
, April 05, 2010 2:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
You're not going to need 15 dBi.
Link budgets are way different at VHF than Microwave.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless
I was sent a private post asking what system, if I was designing it, I would
deploy. Respecting that post, I'll just answer here.
I think a form of spread spectrum technology, perhaps using coherent radios
would be just the thing. Some of the best algorithms give those whose
function it is to
: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Then the problem arises of frequency reuse if we have such low gain antenna
all over the place... and the size of a sector antenna for towers.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
Then the problem arises of frequency reuse if we have such low gain
antenna
all over the place... and the size of a sector antenna for towers.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
wrote
, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k
12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20
JACK,
Thank you and your team for all your hard work and travels and time away
from your networks! Excellent changes and Excellent Presentation.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010
I second Chuck. Looks very good.
Chuck Profito wrote:
JACK,
Thank you and your team for all your hard work and travels and time away
from your networks! Excellent changes and Excellent Presentation.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
The 20 watt power output request. Is this for total ERP or at the radio?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent:
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
The 20 watt power output request. Is this for total ERP or at the radio?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt
: Sunday, April 04, 2010 12:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
This would be UP TO 20 watts at the radio.
We explained how 900 works for most of us. (it sorta does... mostly)
ryan
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k
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