AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a
good deal of bandwidth to their network.
http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html
Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they
see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to
Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can
replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to manage, but doable.
Marco
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use
a
has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu
/youtube ???
if yes can you give some pointers?
Thanks
On 11/2/2010 11:05 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can
replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:09, support supp...@nitline.com wrote:
has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu
/youtube ???
I've played with it in the past, but never could get much out of it. I think
there are two reasons for this.
First, in my network, the pain is
Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of
bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve
much of the Akamai content locally.
What would be nice is if you could just drop your own Squid box in on
your network with a wide file size
providers.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Why not bandwidth shape
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so
that it can be re-invested into my network once again, so Hulu and NetFlix
can continue to get rich?
If you want to keep residential
On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Also, hosting their servers is not necessarilyl free. For example, the most
logicial place to put it might be at one's NOC. That NOC might reside at a
Colo. At $50 per U of space, that is a residual cost that you will pay.
Obviously depends
Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of
bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve
much of the Akamai content locally.
Do Akamai cache boxes actually cache Netflix video? I presume they
cache things like PS3 updates and
. Smith
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so
that it can
: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so
that it can be re-invested into my network once again, so Hulu
We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming
from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact?
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps
I have helped
How much are you passing to them?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming
from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact?
Regards,
Chuck
On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu.
So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a
Hotmail and CNN.com provider?
I really don't know...we haven't tracked it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:
How much are you passing to them?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg
Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an
average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps
required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program.
--
Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
I
: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling
an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of
75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program.
--
Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27
Is this just to have their servers on your network or to BGP peer with
them?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an
average of
11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Is this just to have their servers on your network or to BGP peer with
them?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote:
Emailed Akamai last night. Got
Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering
with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, but the wireless
network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in places, hard to educate
people that their using netflix ruins the internet for X number of
WAIT...
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coop wrote:
Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering
with other customers. Our
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like
ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept
policy for those that pay.
If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
Lots of overhead, lots of DNS
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:51, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
evdo.hs...@gmail.com wrote:
WAIT...
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
Your network, your rules. Legally, you can probably block whatever you want.
Doing so without informing your users (customers, for ISPs) is
At 8/31/2010 01:51 PM, Robert Kim wrote:
WAIT...
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???
Thankfully, there is no net neutrality rule preventing this.
ISPs always block IP addresses. Spammers' address blocks, and ISPs
who tolerate
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu.
So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a
Hotmail and CNN.com provider
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu.
So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a
Hotmail and CNN.com provider
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Is it even legal to block IP addresses
Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
I don't
Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Is it even legal to block IP addresses
...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like
ESPN's service - the default policy is to block
My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive
bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have
found.
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
found.
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:09 PM
Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting
18:30:22
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Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling
an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of
75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program.
--
Blake
, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM
To: j284...@yahoo.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it
if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could
offer netflix for 'free' with a specific
...@yahoo.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it
if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could
offer netflix for 'free' with a specific package. If they charge
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out a 15mbit pipe
--
*From*: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
*Sent*: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM
*To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu.
It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses
a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for content delivery services. These are
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:07 -0400, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix
and Hulu.
Blocking netflix by IP will block a LOT more than just netflix because
their content is not coming from just their servers. Hulu uses a
Macromedia Flash port (TCP
: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu.
It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers
that are abusing the service.
If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify what
that means - the customer pays for bits to be
, 2010 12:27 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com
mailto:k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu.
It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu.
It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses
a mixture of Akamai and Limelight
You need it if you have your own IP space, for BGP. If you don't own your
OWN public IPs, then you don't have one.
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Fankhauser
To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
...@wavelinc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Interesting, whats an AS# ?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
From
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any
amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free),
so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally.
Regards
Michael Baird
Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Michael Baird
*Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Just contact Akamai, and give them your
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Interesting, whats an AS# ?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
of the
most bandwidth intensive things around
Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
@wispa.org
*Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who
use a good deal of bandwidth to their network.
http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html
Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed
:52 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Does that 75 megabits also apply when you are looking to connect via
a public peering point? Some CDN type networks waive or minimize
those requirements if you connect via a public exchange.
- Mike Hammett
think I heard it here, Might have been on NANOG.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(321) 205-1100 x106
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Does that 75 megabits
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote:
I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they
also told me 75mbps was the magic number.
--
Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:43, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
No clue, Just
they will give it to you with much less than 75mbps
best just to ask them :-)
On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote:
I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they
also told me
I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps
I have helped another get one with about 500 customers and about 50mbps
So - just ask
Truth is - they want to put these in - they crave new locations like you would
not believe.
On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Well, more like 10. The inquiry cost nothing, they will look it up and
tell you if they see enough traffic from your AS to justify it or not.
Regards
Michael Baird
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com
mailto:bl...@beamspeed.com wrote:
I contacted Akamai a while
I've got 300+Mbps and we don't have thousands of customers...but we do
have 1500+.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote:
I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and
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