Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
Please send your money as we are backordered for development. Will send product as soon as we can fill the order. LOL. Quoting Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'll take 200. > > Rudolph Worrell wrote: > > >I am reading all of these posts and I see one thing here. Marketing! There > is > >little sense to this but a great deal of marketing being done for Mesh, 4.9, > > >and Muni WiFi. I see out of town guys chime in all the time and express how > > >well they can deploy and integrate networks. I am very curious about the > >actual implementations they have done that involved a large mountain ranges > > >with customers spaced every 5 miles who are behind trees, or has some > >obstruction to any towers. Better yet a neighborhood with devices on the > same > >frequencies that you cannot control. My guess is that their lab and specs > of > >their devices looks great but the actual deployment is a different story. > We > >all know that 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and 5.8Ghz, all have their limitations, and > will > >perform perhaps 10% to 20% worst than advertised. Do these guys know that? > > > > >As for the marketing bit, I have a 2.4Ghz wireless device that can > communicate > >at 100 mph, at distances of 100mi from the tower using 60foot dishes, giving > a > >throughput of 200Mbps. It sells for $50,000.00 per Clieint bridge and > >$600,000.00 per AP. Who wants to buy? > > > > > >Quoting Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > >>Well to one-up you, > >>Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh > >>Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. > >>What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen > >>words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the > GAB. > >> > >>You have a Good Day now, > >> > >> > >>Carl A Jeptha > >>http://www.airnet.ca > >>office 905 349-2084 > >>Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 > >>skype cajeptha > >> > >> > >> > >>Brad Larson wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these > >>>projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say > >>> > >>> > >>there > >> > >> > >>>are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many > >>> > >>> > >>will > >> > >> > >>>get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per > >>>square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll > >>>need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of > the > >>>Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are > different > >>>create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the > >>>"wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of > >>> > >>> > >>problems > >> > >> > >>>surface. > >>> > >>>There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering > >>>whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch > >>> > >>> > >>IMHO. > >> > >> > >>>How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a > "convenience > >>>or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the > >>>4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for > >>>public safety or city workers? > >>> > >>>I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square > >>>mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base > >>>stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the > >>>cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the > >>>restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And > >>>I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty > much > >>> > >>> > >>a > >> > >> > >>>waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the > >>> > >>> > >>start > >> > >> > >>>of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless > >>>industry. > >>> > >>>But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks > >>> > >>> > >>actually > >> > >> > >>>works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and > >>> > >>> > >>serves > >> > >> > >>>the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad > >>> > >>>-Original Message- > >>>From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM > >>>To: WISPA General List > >>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -Original Message- > From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > > John J. Thomas wrote: > > > > >inline... > > > >First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
I'll take 200. Rudolph Worrell wrote: I am reading all of these posts and I see one thing here. Marketing! There is little sense to this but a great deal of marketing being done for Mesh, 4.9, and Muni WiFi. I see out of town guys chime in all the time and express how well they can deploy and integrate networks. I am very curious about the actual implementations they have done that involved a large mountain ranges with customers spaced every 5 miles who are behind trees, or has some obstruction to any towers. Better yet a neighborhood with devices on the same frequencies that you cannot control. My guess is that their lab and specs of their devices looks great but the actual deployment is a different story. We all know that 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and 5.8Ghz, all have their limitations, and will perform perhaps 10% to 20% worst than advertised. Do these guys know that? As for the marketing bit, I have a 2.4Ghz wireless device that can communicate at 100 mph, at distances of 100mi from the tower using 60foot dishes, giving a throughput of 200Mbps. It sells for $50,000.00 per Clieint bridge and $600,000.00 per AP. Who wants to buy? Quoting Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well to one-up you, Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the GAB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Brad Larson wrote: I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of problems surface. There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO. How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for public safety or city workers? I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the start of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless industry. But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks actually works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and serves the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes John J. Thomas wrote: inline... First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved down their throats. I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals. George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some facts; 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified network Integrator. 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations 100,000 and smaller. 4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers, first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second. But how many local wisps have been chosen to date? I bet Joe laura in NO got passed over without much consideration to him. Joe is on this list, let him chime i
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
I am reading all of these posts and I see one thing here. Marketing! There is little sense to this but a great deal of marketing being done for Mesh, 4.9, and Muni WiFi. I see out of town guys chime in all the time and express how well they can deploy and integrate networks. I am very curious about the actual implementations they have done that involved a large mountain ranges with customers spaced every 5 miles who are behind trees, or has some obstruction to any towers. Better yet a neighborhood with devices on the same frequencies that you cannot control. My guess is that their lab and specs of their devices looks great but the actual deployment is a different story. We all know that 2.4Ghz, 900Mhz, and 5.8Ghz, all have their limitations, and will perform perhaps 10% to 20% worst than advertised. Do these guys know that? As for the marketing bit, I have a 2.4Ghz wireless device that can communicate at 100 mph, at distances of 100mi from the tower using 60foot dishes, giving a throughput of 200Mbps. It sells for $50,000.00 per Clieint bridge and $600,000.00 per AP. Who wants to buy? Quoting Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well to one-up you, > Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh > Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. > What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen > words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the GAB. > > You have a Good Day now, > > > Carl A Jeptha > http://www.airnet.ca > office 905 349-2084 > Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 > skype cajeptha > > > > Brad Larson wrote: > > I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these > > projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say > there > > are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many > will > > get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per > > square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll > > need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the > > Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different > > create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the > > "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of > problems > > surface. > > > > There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering > > whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch > IMHO. > > How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience > > or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the > > 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for > > public safety or city workers? > > > > I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square > > mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base > > stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the > > cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the > > restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And > > I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much > a > > waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the > start > > of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless > > industry. > > > > But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks > actually > > works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and > serves > > the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > >> > >> John J. Thomas wrote: > >> > >>> inline... > >>> > >>> First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many > >>> > > simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved > > down their throats. > > > >> I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals. > >> > > > > George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some > > facts; > > 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified > > network Integrator. > > 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks > > 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations > > 100,000 and smaller. > > 4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers, > > first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second. > > > > > > > >> But how many local wisps have b
RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
What do they mean by "White Spaces"? > --Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue > final rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed > basis along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference. > Final rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially > in rural areas too expensive to serve by wire. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?
And Arkansas... This is was posted in www.ardemgaz.com (Arkansas Democrat Gazette) today under the "Notices" section of the paper. You may want to check your paper today. LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC. We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Arkansas in the following communities: Arkadelphia, Batesville, Bentonville, Blytheville, Bryant, Cabot, DeQueen, Dumas, East End, Greenwood, Harrison, Heber Springs, Hope, Hot Springs Village, Lowell, Magnolia, Marion, Monticello, Morrilton, Stuttgart, Van Buren, Waynne Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. 37055620f [37055620] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wireless@wispa.org; isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.? Interesting. I guess that the Form 477 doesn't count for this? Many of those cities (most???) in Washington are already well covered! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:08 PM Subject: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.? > Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.? > They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities > throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices > that I have found however, based on search engine results, > it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in > Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are > a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for > RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing > the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their > application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate > where they are based or their contact information. I searched > bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of > these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company. > > There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices > below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want > to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they > are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's > need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is > attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already > has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the > necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away > for areas that already have broadband available whether the > area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC. > > North Carolina: > http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf > > South Carolina: > http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985 > > Maine: > http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=91 346 > > Colorado: > http://tinyurl.com/g99rl > > Connecticut: > http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=93 998 > > Idaho: > http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browse&cat=Personals&code=018 > http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous > > Nevada: > http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcan&ui=tb&a=850526 > > Rhode Island: > http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm > > Vermont: > http://tinyurl.com/ghruo > > Iowa: > http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm > > Georgia: > http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm > > Texas: > http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=LEGALS > > Kentucky: > local newspaper notice placed by their compan
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
Anthony, have you tested what kind of throughput you're getting through these, not just the link speed? Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Anthony Morin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH I have a Tranzeo 5a 32 link that is 19 miles. Signal levels are in the low to mid 70's and TX rates stays at 54Meg. I would consider it pretty reliable especially for the money. chris cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone had any experience = or with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
Well to one-up you, Our local Utility has been offered Wimax Radios to be used in a Mesh Network on a licensed Freq, so that they can read meters. What really gets me is that these people with a few carefully chosen words appear to know more than all of us put together. The gift of the GAB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Brad Larson wrote: I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of problems surface. There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO. How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for public safety or city workers? I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the start of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless industry. But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks actually works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and serves the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes John J. Thomas wrote: inline... First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved down their throats. I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals. George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some facts; 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified network Integrator. 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations 100,000 and smaller. 4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers, first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second. But how many local wisps have been chosen to date? I bet Joe laura in NO got passed over without much consideration to him. Joe is on this list, let him chime in here. Second, the cities are mostly going to use 2.4 GHz for access and 5.7-5.8 GHz for backhauls. WISP's will need to use 5.25-5.25 GHz and 900 MHz. Almost every wisp today is using 2.4 to reach the customer and 5 gig for infrastructure and high end customers. Are you saying that wisps have to move off the existing spectrum and replace their equipment? I am not saying that WISPS have to move off of 2.4. I am saying that if WISPs want to provide top quality service, then they may need to move off of 2.4 as it is getting crowded in lots of areas. In a word, service. The city will only be offering WiFi access-period. They won't be going out to peoples houses and doing installs, fixing virii, doing firewalls, etc. Here is a scenario, if a potential customer who is on the fence while deciding to go to broadband was to hear that a new muni free wifi system is going to come on line or he can buy now with his local wisp, which choice is the average consumer going to make? Most are going to try the muni first. Some are going to be unsatisfied and will look for a better deal. I'll give you an example. I had 384k SDSL to my house and it was costing me $152 per month. In order to save money, I
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: However, no public traffic can run over the network. You can use a public network to feed a 4.9 system that you manage for the license holder. You can NOT use 4.9 to transport public traffic though. Don't take this like I don't believe what you are saying...This is just a question. Trango is offering a new mesh solution that they call "HD Mesh". From what I understand, it is targeted for muni-wireless deployment. It uses 2.4GHz AP and 4.9GHz backhaul. If what you say is correct, is this system then limited to be used ONLY by the municipality and no other end users may connect to it? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
I have a Tranzeo 5a 32 link that is 19 miles. Signal levels are in the low to mid 70's and TX rates stays at 54Meg. I would consider it pretty reliable especially for the money. chris cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone had any experience = or with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Reseller Agreement
Title: Reseller Agreement Anyone have a Reseller agreement for share, we will be wholesaling our services to another company and would like to get an idea… Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FS: Remote Reboot
Title: FS: Remote Reboot FS : Nighthawk system NH1 Pager based remote AC rebooter with vhf paging receiver, 6 units available, great price Offlist for more info For sale cause couldn’t make it work with local alphanumeric paging company, just works with numeric service Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
How long after someone is approved do they have to build out? IE, if they don't build out their system after a year or two, what happens to that money, whether it be a grant or a loan guarantee? - Original Message - From: "Brian Whigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? Marlon, I have not seen one; but I have heard of them. I feel silly addressing you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list. Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband conference that I attended this past fall (http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm). One must ensure (due dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the area. It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in order to qualify for the loan. The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only. They can not be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth. And they can't be used for salaries. Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to qualify for. And they can be for large amounts. I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below. Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 www.yondernetworks.com Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 360-226-7561 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Funny Guys.. really fuy Rick! any hows... my goal here is to get the public the RIGHT kind of internet service for their needs... True MOBILE Broadband Synch / low latency is still years off... so... Im planning to add a note: " for FIXED Wireless Broadband, contact a WISP. for Mobile Wireless Internet, contact evdo-coverage.com A WISP can deliver much faster connection speeds than EVDO at wire line latencies. 3g Such as EVDO and HSDPA are only medium speed on the download stream and thin band on the uploads." Can You Guys gimme any speeds to quote??? ps... thanks for the free hosting offer... suuuper cool of you JohnnyO! will advise re hover text..: in Satelite mode.. the hover text is clear.. so i gotta do a conditional color filter... Newest Revision Alpha Version: http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com On 4/26/06, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lol > > > > On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Robert, > > > > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection? > > > > Rick Harnish > > President > > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > > 260-827-2482 Office > > 260-307-4000 Cell > > 260-918-4340 VoIP -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Auction 66
http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_factsheet&id=66 Faisal ImtiazSnappyDSL.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve SmithSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:26 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] Auction 66 http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_summary&id=66 Can anyone tell me anything about this auction? Steve Smith Chase 3000 Imperial, NE 69033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 308 882-3000 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.?
Interesting. I guess that the Form 477 doesn't count for this? Many of those cities (most???) in Washington are already well covered! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "KyWiFi LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:08 PM Subject: [WISP] Who is Open Range Communications Inc.? Anyone heard of Open Range Communications Inc.? They have applied for RUS grant money in numerous cities throughout the country. Below are a few links to their notices that I have found however, based on search engine results, it appears as though they have also applied for RUS funds in Kentucky, Florida and Virginia as well. I know that there are a couple cities in our coverage area that they have applied for RUS money to construct their own facilities in so I'll be filing the necessary paperwork with RDUP in hopes that their application for those two areas is declined. I am unable to locate where they are based or their contact information. I searched bbb.org and dnb.com but they are not registered with either of these so I'm thinking they may be a start-up company. There are quite a few cities listed in each of their state notices below so if you are operating in any of these states, you'll want to click the applicable link(s) I've provided below to see if they are trying to invade your turf too. The last thing we as WISP's need is for RUS money to be given out to someone who is attempting to compete with one of us in an area that already has broadband. We need to each do our part and file the necessary form with RDUP so they don't give money away for areas that already have broadband available whether the area is covered by a WISP, CLEC or ILEC. North Carolina: http://www.ncpress.com/2x2Network/06Apr24OpenRange.pdf South Carolina: http://display.independentmail.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=395985 Maine: http://me.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=91346 Colorado: http://tinyurl.com/g99rl Connecticut: http://ct.mypublicnotices.com/PublicNotice.asp?Page=PublicNotice&AdId=93998 Idaho: http://www.nwmarket.com/index.php?cmd=browse&cat=Personals&code=018 http://www.mountainhomenews.com/classifieds#Miscellaneous Nevada: http://fastads.swiftnews.com/indi/?s=tcan&ui=tb&a=850526 Rhode Island: http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/include.pl/classifieds/legals.htm Vermont: http://tinyurl.com/ghruo Iowa: http://www.waarc.org/waarc_1_003.htm Georgia: http://www.earlycountynews.com/ROP/large/Misc%2Dopenrange%2Ehtm Texas: http://www.fortstocktonpioneer.com/classifieds/?loc=detail&main=LEGALS Kentucky: Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky "Your Hometown Broadband Provider" http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $19.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation & Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned & Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Marlon, I have not seen one; but I have heard of them. I feel silly addressing you since you are one of the 'experienced' people on this list. Someone from USDA (or HUD, can't remember) came and presented funding options for rural wireless network buildout at a rural broadband conference that I attended this past fall (http://www.nespal.org/unwired05/program.htm). One must ensure (due dilligence) that there are no networks that are already servicing the area. It appears that the fellow in your post is doing just that in order to qualify for the loan. The loans can be spent on infrastructure and equipment only. They can not be used to rent towerspace or upstream bandwidth. And they can't be used for salaries. Per the speaker, the loans aren't that hard to qualify for. And they can be for large amounts. I'm sure you'll find more details on the website that he posted below. Sorry if I was totally off base; I wasn't quite sure what you were asking. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 www.yondernetworks.com Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 360-226-7561 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
Yes, it is a required step in applying for a grant/loan from RUS. This is your opportunity to let RUS know you exist, which from last time I looked at it made the applicant must less likely to get the grant/loan if you already provide in the area they are asking for help in. Steve Smith Chase 3000 Imperial, NE 69033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 308 882-3000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:15 PM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants? anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Auction 66
http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=auction_summary&id=66 Can anyone tell me anything about this auction? Steve Smith Chase 3000 Imperial, NE 69033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 308 882-3000 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: USDA RUS loans/grants?
anyone seen anything like this before? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: USDA RUS loans/grants? Don't you provide service here?: LEGAL NOTICE OPEN RANGE COMMUNICATIONS INC We are a prospective applicant under the Rural Broadband Access Loan and Loan Guarantee Program being administered by the Rural Development, Utilities Programs (RDUP), United States Department of Agriculture. We are required, as a prospective applicant to announce our intent to provide broadband services (200 kilobits upstream and downstream) in the State of Washington in the following communities: Anacortes, Artondale, Burlington, Camas, Clarkstone Heights-Vineland, College Place, East Port Orchard, East Wenatchee Bench, Ephrata, Ferndale, Fort Lewis, Gig Harbor, Grandview, Green Acres, Lynden, Moses Lake, Othello, Quincy, Steilacoom, Sunnyside, Toppenish, Waller, Washougal, West Richland. Incumbent broadband service providers have 30 days from the date of this Legal Notice to inform RDUP if they are currently providing broadband service in these areas or if they have a commitment to provide service in these areas. Incumbent broadband service providers should submit to RDUP, on a form prescribed by RDUP, the number of residential customers receiving broadband service in the proposed service area, the rates of data transmission, and the cost of each level of service or proof of commitment to provide service in the proposed service area. A map should also be provided showing the boundaries of your service area in relation to the communities above. A Legal Notice Response Form can be obtained from RDUP's website at www.usda.gov/rus/telecom. (This ad is from 04/17/2006 to 04/18/2006.) ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 4.9 space
Yes, BUT you CANNOT use any of it for commercial purposes. It must be all PS. - Patrick, Alvarion From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 4.9 space Can a commercial wisp use 4.9 spectrum with cooperation with public safety agencies? Public Saftey holds the license and the wisp builds the network, splits off bandwidth for the agency and uses some of the bandwidth for commercial purposes. Thanks chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
Title: Message Here is one possible source for the information that you are looking for http://www.cwlab.com/testing_criteria.htm -Charles ---CWLabTechnology Architectshttp://www.cwlab.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooperSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH Has anyone had any experience = or – with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
I recommend a darker color for hover text. I can't even see the hover notes with firefox except when checking ones on the east coast. only thing that's slow for me is the notes that pop up when you click on a push-pin. pretty cool, thanks brian Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ I will be adding a instructional box stating that for "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed field in the system. On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the browser... Brian Rohrbacher wrote: same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other "unable" page. JohnnyO wrote: We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you provided We are currently unable to serve your request We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be completed. This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... we now finally have a usable LINKABLE google map for WISPS please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... bob kim GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- Brian Whigham Yonder Networks 888-770-3421 360-226-7561 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
Title: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH The biggest issue I have heard or seen with tranzeo BH’s is if you are running a flat network ( ie your pop’s are not routed @ the edge ) they have a lot of trouble passing a large bridge table. - Jeff On 4/26/06 12:21 PM, "Jory Privett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please reply onlist as I would be interested also. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH Has anyone had any experience = or ˆ with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Robert - get in touch with me - I'll host your site for you free of charge. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ I will be adding a instructional box stating that for "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed field in the system. On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the > browser... > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the > > other "unable" page. > > > > JohnnyO wrote: > > > >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you > >> provided > >> > >> We are currently unable to serve your request > >> > >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be > >> completed. > >> > >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that > >> you believe may have caused this error please report the problem > >> here. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim > >> Wireless Internet Advisor > >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > >> > >> > >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... > >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE > >> google map for WISPS > >> > >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... > >> > >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new > >> design... bob kim > >> > >> GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-s et.html > >> > >> > > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH
Please reply onlist as I would be interested also. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo BH Has anyone had any experience = or with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Feels like it, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Lol On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert, > > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection? > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rick Harnish > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > > Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this. > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > > team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server > http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ > > I will be adding a instructional box stating that for > > "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or > HSDPA. > For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." > > agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed > field in the system. > > On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the > browser... >> >> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >>> same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other >>> "unable" page. >>> >>> JohnnyO wrote: >>> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you provided We are currently unable to serve your request We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be completed. This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... we now finally have a usable LINKABLE google map for WISPS please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... bob kim GOOGLEMAP: > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h > tml >>> > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor > http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com > http://evdo-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > Suite 203 > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Lol On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert, > > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection? > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rick Harnish > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > > Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this. > > Rick Harnish > President > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. > 260-827-2482 Office > 260-307-4000 Cell > 260-918-4340 VoIP > www.oibw.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > > team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server > http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ > > I will be adding a instructional box stating that for > > "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or > HSDPA. > For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." > > agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed > field in the system. > > On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the > browser... >> >> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> >>> same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other >>> "unable" page. >>> >>> JohnnyO wrote: >>> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you provided We are currently unable to serve your request We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be completed. This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... we now finally have a usable LINKABLE google map for WISPS please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... bob kim GOOGLEMAP: > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h > tml >>> > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor > http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com > http://evdo-coverage.com > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 > Suite 203 > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 > 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Robert, Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection? Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ I will be adding a instructional box stating that for "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed field in the system. On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the browser... > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other > > "unable" page. > > > > JohnnyO wrote: > > > >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you > >> provided > >> > >> We are currently unable to serve your request > >> > >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be > >> completed. > >> > >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you > >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > >> > >> > >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... > >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE > >> google map for WISPS > >> > >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... > >> > >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... > >> bob kim > >> > >> GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h tml > >> > >> > > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo BH
Has anyone had any experience = or – with the Tranzeo 5a 32 or the 5amp 32? The claims are 25 and 40 miles respectively. Im wondering about reliability and performance at those distances. Hit me off list if you can advise. Thanks, Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
Talk about slow response times, I'm not sure I have the patience to do this. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ I will be adding a instructional box stating that for "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed field in the system. On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the browser... > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other > > "unable" page. > > > > JohnnyO wrote: > > > >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you > >> provided > >> > >> We are currently unable to serve your request > >> > >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be > >> completed. > >> > >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you > >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > >> > >> > >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... > >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE > >> google map for WISPS > >> > >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... > >> > >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... > >> bob kim > >> > >> GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.h tml > >> > >> > > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/ I will be adding a instructional box stating that for "FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA. For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP." agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed field in the system. On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the browser... > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > same here. Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other > > "unable" page. > > > > JohnnyO wrote: > > > >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you > >> provided > >> > >> We are currently unable to serve your request > >> > >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be > >> completed. > >> > >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you > >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE! > >> > >> > >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling... > >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE > >> google map for WISPS > >> > >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP... > >> > >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... > >> bob kim > >> > >> GOOGLEMAP: http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html > >> > >> > > -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space
Yes. However, no public traffic can run over the network. You can use a public network to feed a 4.9 system that you manage for the license holder. You can NOT use 4.9 to transport public traffic though. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: [WISPA] 4.9 space Can a commercial wisp use 4.9 spectrum with cooperation with public safety agencies? Public Saftey holds the license and the wisp builds the network, splits off bandwidth for the agency and uses some of the bandwidth for commercial purposes. Thanks chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 4.9 space
Can a commercial wisp use 4.9 spectrum with cooperation with public safety agencies? Public Saftey holds the license and the wisp builds the network, splits off bandwidth for the agency and uses some of the bandwidth for commercial purposes. Thanks chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act' --Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and low income households would be exempted. 1. So who determines what/how/when the areas private investment is neglecting? 2. Who has access to the $500 million to build infrastructure 3. Sounds like some folks are tagging a rider in to take a shot at VOIP --Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to continue. --Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or will not provide service. 1. See #1 above Call me paranoid, but parts of this smell a little fishy. Chris Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: Nighthawk Systems Wireless Rebooting Solutions
No paging systems around here. But the rest of you may be able to make use of this. I've seen these, pretty cool stuff. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Kayleen Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Angelica Rosa'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: Nighthawk Systems Wireless Rebooting Solutions WIRELESS REBOOTING SOLUTIONS WISP/MESH NETWORKS * DIGITAL CAMERAS & SIGNAGE INFORMATION KIOSKS * CO-LOCATION FACILITIES WHAT DO FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES, WISPS, FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE IN COMMON? THEY ALL USE NIGHTHAWK. Founded in the 1990's, Nighthawk Systems, Inc. began with the revolutionary idea of delivering low-cost wireless solutions for industrial and commercial control by using common paging service. From the beginning, the company focused its development of printed circuit board (PCB) controls by incorporating paging technology. The result of years of custom applications in the field is the proprietary Nighthawk intelligent remote control board, which is easily integrated into OEM equipment or into Nighthawk's own plug and play devices commonly used by IT professionals to wirelessly switch power 'on' or 'off ' to remotely located devices. The NH100 allows a user to remotely control power to any device that can be plugged into a standard outlet. A modified version will also control DC power. Either way, you simply page the unit just as you would an ordinary pager...it's completely wireless, no phone line is required. The NH100's smaller size makes it perfect for rebooting and simple on/off applications. So if you are rolling a truck in the middle of the night to reboot a system, save yourself some time and money with the NH100. Designed with the ISP, Data Center, or Co-location facility in mind, the NH8 allows you to reboot locked up equipment from 8 individual time delay programmable outlets. The 15 amp power outlets are activated remotely allowing for full power-off reboots and remote site equipment management. All Nighthawk products are shipped to you pre-programmed to paging signals in your region and ready to install immediately. NOW YOU CAN DO THE LEGWORK OF AN ENTIRE WORKFORCE...IN AN INSTANT. Put the innovative technology of Nighthawk to work for you. For more information on any of our products or services, please contact us. If you do not wish to receive e-mails like this in the future, please respond with a DO NOT CONTACT e-mail. Kayleen Middleton Director of Marketing Nighthawk Systems, Inc. 210.341.4811 P 210.341.2011 F 877.764.4484 Toll-Free www.nighthawksystems.com Kayleen Middleton Director of Marketing Nighthawk Systems, Inc. 210.341.4811 P 210.341.2011 F 877.764.4484 Toll-Free www.nighthawksystems.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
I'm biting my tongue on this topicI have been on enough of these projects, well over 50 in the last 12 months alone, and I have to say there are a pile of people that don't know what they're getting into and many will get hurt. For instance, I have a unnamed mesh vendor quoting 14 nodes per square mile for 100% coverage in a decent sized community in MA. They'll need at least 40ish... And please keep in mind that different parts of the Country where tree lines/foliage, noise floors, and topology are different create their own separate challenges. Throw in voice as some of the "wireless network experts" have advised and a whole new overlay of problems surface. There is a place for mesh just like other tools in your kit but covering whole counties or even trying to cover a whole City is quite a stretch IMHO. How did we get to this point of mesh first being considered a "convenience or hotspot extension" to what it has become today where it is seen as the 4th solution to the last mile or a cost effective roaming solution for public safety or city workers? I have seen designs in the NE US where 40 to 69 2.4 Ghz nodes per square mile are needed when a simple implement of 900 Mhz mobility with two base stations (redundant) per square mile can do the trick and save 90% of the cost of a mesh network. Use mesh in the parks, at the pool, in the restaurant district, or anywhere else people may want public access. And I'll add that opening up my notebook on a sunny day outside is pretty much a waste of battery power. I'm afraid Tempe AZ and St Cloud are just the start of some of the bad press we're going to see related to our wireless industry. But then again, I'm a show me guy so if one of these major networks actually works, has an ROI and doesn't become a boondoggle for tax payers, and serves the public well then I'll be impressed. Brad -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes >-Original Message- >From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 09:02 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > >John J. Thomas wrote: >> inline... > >> >> First off, the WISPs have to have the guts to talk to the city. Many simply refuse to do so, and are probably going to get the Muni WiFi shoved down their throats. >> > >I don't want to turn this into a battle of ideals. George, you are welcome to believe anything that you want. Here are some facts; 1. I work for Clare Computer Solutions and we are a Cisco Mesh certified network Integrator. 2. Cities have approached US to install their networks 3. These cities are not San Francisco sized, they are probably populations 100,000 and smaller. 4. They are spending the money to put in infrastructure for City workers, first. Many are looking at providing Internet access second. > >But how many local wisps have been chosen to date? >I bet Joe laura in NO got passed over without much consideration to him. >Joe is on this list, let him chime in here. > >> Second, the cities are mostly going to use 2.4 GHz for access and 5.7-5.8 GHz for backhauls. WISP's will need to use 5.25-5.25 GHz and 900 MHz. >> > >Almost every wisp today is using 2.4 to reach the customer and 5 gig for >infrastructure and high end customers. Are you saying that wisps have to >move off the existing spectrum and replace their equipment? I am not saying that WISPS have to move off of 2.4. I am saying that if WISPs want to provide top quality service, then they may need to move off of 2.4 as it is getting crowded in lots of areas. > >> >> In a word, service. The city will only be offering WiFi access-period. They won't be going out to peoples houses and doing installs, fixing virii, doing firewalls, etc. >> > >Here is a scenario, if a potential customer who is on the fence while >deciding to go to broadband was to hear that a new muni free wifi system >is going to come on line or he can buy now with his local wisp, which >choice is the average consumer going to make? Most are going to try the muni first. Some are going to be unsatisfied and will look for a better deal. I'll give you an example. I had 384k SDSL to my house and it was costing me $152 per month. In order to save money, I dropped the SDSL in favor of a cable modem. The cable modem can do 6 meg down and about 384k up for $43 per month and has been verified by DSLreports. Even my wife thinks the SDSL was better, I just couldn't afford it anymore. If someone in Antioch CA were even offering wireless service at $42 per month, I would be there. There is a subset of people that want quality, and are willing to pay for it. Two questions come up-can you deliver and are there enough to keep you from starving? > >The support scenario happens long after the fact. > >George >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wisp
RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
HP has a Wireless Engineering Group acting as an integrator for Muni Projects. Alvarion has worked with them on several projects. Brad -Original Message- From: Carl A Jeptha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes What is really funny is that they used Hewlett Packard. Why not Cisco, Alvarion, Tranzeo. These are some of the people who are suppose to know what they are doing. BTW I am a certified HP Computer and printer tech. but still I think they know what they are doing. KICKBACK You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > roflol > > The city is selling "signal boosters" (I read that as amps) to anyone > that wants them for $170? > > Oh man, this deployment is gonna come CRASHING down. Hard. > > It's really too bad these people are too ignorant, stubborn or just > plain stupid to call any of us in to help. > > sigh > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:07 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > > >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups >> >> I am not a fan of muni wireless. >> >> George >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
--Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and low income households would be exempted. 1. So who determines what/how/when the areas private investment is neglecting? 2. Who has access to the $500 million to build infrastructure 3. Sounds like some folks are tagging a rider in to take a shot at VOIP --Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to continue. --Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or will not provide service. 1. See #1 above Call me paranoid, but parts of this smell a little fishy. Chris Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
All, A link to the bill mentioned in the article below. http://static.publicknowledge.org/pdf/20060327-house-telecom-print.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro Dawn DiPietro wrote: All, I thought this would be of interest to the group. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act' Says bill would promote affordable rural networks Posted: 7:36 AM, Apr. 25, 2006 Last Updated: 7:45 AM, Apr. 25, 2006 By KTVZ.com news sources WASHINGTON - Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., addressed the National Telecommunications Cooperative Association's Legislative and Policy Conference on Tuesday and outlined his Broadband for America Act of 2006. The proposal is a ‘disciplined' and ‘directed' piece of legislation that the Senate can swiftly pass to promote the construction of new broadband networks in rural America. "To succeed in a global marketplace American firms need access to affordable broadband networks," Smith said. "Leaving outdated laws on the books stalls job creation and inhibits the introduction of wireless technology that can be utilized in parts of America today's technology will never reach. Today's laws choke job creation with regulation and hold back innovation that proves time and time again to improve consumer's options." Senator Smith's legislation promotes the construction of broadband infrastructure by addressing the following critical issues: --Burdensome Video Regulations: Will allow wireline video providers to compete on equal footing by freeing them of unnecessary federal, state, and local regulations that have inhibited their entrance into the market. The legislation maintains local authority over rights of way and local programming requirements. --Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and low income households would be exempted. --Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to continue. --Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or will not provide service. --Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue final rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed basis along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference. Final rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially in rural areas too expensive to serve by wire. Smith noted, "The Broadband for America Act is a targeted legislative package that draws on the best thinking of Senators Rockefeller, Dorgan Allen, Snowe, Lautenberg, McCain and myself. The bill combines my Video Choice Act and Universal Service for the 21st Century Act with Senator Allen's Wireless Innovation Act, Senator Snowe's Anti-Deficiency Act bill and Senator Lautenberg and McCain's Community Broadband Act." http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=oregon&storyID=9996 --- --- --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act'
All, I thought this word be of interest to the group. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Smith pitches 'Broadband for America Act' Says bill would promote affordable rural networks Posted: 7:36 AM, Apr. 25, 2006 Last Updated: 7:45 AM, Apr. 25, 2006 By KTVZ.com news sources WASHINGTON - Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., addressed the National Telecommunications Cooperative Association's Legislative and Policy Conference on Tuesday and outlined his Broadband for America Act of 2006. The proposal is a ‘disciplined' and ‘directed' piece of legislation that the Senate can swiftly pass to promote the construction of new broadband networks in rural America. "To succeed in a global marketplace American firms need access to affordable broadband networks," Smith said. "Leaving outdated laws on the books stalls job creation and inhibits the introduction of wireless technology that can be utilized in parts of America today's technology will never reach. Today's laws choke job creation with regulation and hold back innovation that proves time and time again to improve consumer's options." Senator Smith's legislation promotes the construction of broadband infrastructure by addressing the following critical issues: --Burdensome Video Regulations: Will allow wireline video providers to compete on equal footing by freeing them of unnecessary federal, state, and local regulations that have inhibited their entrance into the market. The legislation maintains local authority over rights of way and local programming requirements. --Universal Service Reform: Creates a new account to invest $500 million a year in broadband infrastructure for areas private investment are reluctant to reach. Expands USF contributors to include any company capable of supporting 2-way voice communication. Low volume users and low income households would be exempted. --Permanently Exempt USF Fund: Permanently exempts the Universal Service Fund from the Anti-Deficiency Act, allowing programs like the E-rate to continue. --Municipal Broadband: Allows municipalities to band together and offer affordable broadband service in areas where private companies cannot or will not provide service. --Wireless Broadband and White Spaces: Instructs the FCC to issue final rules within six months allocating white spaces on an unlicensed basis along with technical guidelines that prevent radio interference. Final rules will break way for low-cost broadband service, especially in rural areas too expensive to serve by wire. Smith noted, "The Broadband for America Act is a targeted legislative package that draws on the best thinking of Senators Rockefeller, Dorgan Allen, Snowe, Lautenberg, McCain and myself. The bill combines my Video Choice Act and Universal Service for the 21st Century Act with Senator Allen's Wireless Innovation Act, Senator Snowe's Anti-Deficiency Act bill and Senator Lautenberg and McCain's Community Broadband Act." http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=oregon&storyID=9996 --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/