Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
The whole argument is scale. You've already agreed that Canopy wins by scale. I don't disagree with any other statements said below, that isn't my point. And if you want to go the 5GHz route comparison, it should be only fair to use the 430 equipment... because you are using the new UBNT

Re: [WISPA] Tower Identity

2010-05-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
What kind of file is that? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 3:40 AM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Tower Identity

2010-05-28 Thread Chuck Hogg
Never mind, had to change the filename to a .jpg. Looks like a Pirod to me, not 100% sure though. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Panelists Needed for Regional Show

2010-05-28 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Being one of the oldest WISP in St. Louis, as well as the oldest WISPA member, I would be happy to accept whatever placement WISPA require of us. If you are talking about St. Louis Broadband, you are talking about us! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Mark, I would like to thank you for your interesting and obivously well thought out post. I am firmly of the camp that USF should be completely discontinued, and my efforts going forward will be to encourage its disbandment. The major goals of the original USF program have been completed for

Re: [WISPA] Tower Identity

2010-05-28 Thread Stuart Pierce
There are actually two there, the lighter color has the wider base and is 60' high. The darker has a smaller base but is 80-120' ( cause there are two one of of the picture ). -- Original Message -- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Reply-To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tower Identity - Redux

2010-05-28 Thread Mike
It's hard to tell from the end shot. A side profile would help. The larger one looks like an old windmill tower. It's hard to tell about the smaller one. Are those cross members angled iron or round? Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] TLink45 integrated for connectorized trade?

2010-05-28 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
I've got a TLink45 radio with integrated 23 dBi antennas. Anyone want to trade for a connectorized version? -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Are you taking the M series into consideration when stating this? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/27/2010 4:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ubiquiti will not do 50+ stations. Period. You might get 25 on low bandwidth rates (2x512). On 5/27/10,

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Stuart Pierce
M Series with AirMax on is marketed to support 100 per Rocket. -- Original Message -- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:46:12 -0500 Are you taking the M series into

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett
If you can do the in building DSL in multiple buildings, consider PtP wireless links among the buildings. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/27/2010 8:48 PM, finkle dinkle wrote: Yep, I will look and test ubnt equipment.. I'm in no rush, just

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Again before we compare who has the bigger Schwartz, high customer counts per AP are only relevant if you're selling small bandwidth. You cannot put 150x 15 megabit customers on a Canopy AP (you can't on UBNT either, for that matter). People have been clamoring high customer per AP densities

[WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Hello WISPA, I'm a lurker on this list that is interested in the WISP industry but still learning every day (a lot from you all!), so please forgive my ignorance. :) I run a small community wireless network in a low-income apartment complex; we're currently using Open-Mesh

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Marco Coelho
FWIW This is a bind system first query with no local cache: ;; Query time: 104 msec ;; SERVER: 64.202.224.2#53(64.202.224.2) ;; WHEN: Fri May 28 09:55:51 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 95 After first query the same server has the data in cache: ;; Query time: 0 msec ;; SERVER:

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I've always been pro-tax credit, based on my personal agenda. I think it incourages investment, not only helps reduce an ISP's tax burden. However, from my experience debating ARRA, I learned there can be some disadvantages of Tax Credits. The BIG disadvantage for WISPs is that it helps Large

[WISPA] Redline SUO CPE certified for upper 3.65 band

2010-05-28 Thread Gino Villarini
http://tinyurl.com/39qcu35 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Justin Wilson
If you don¹t have LOS you can¹t overcome physics with any type of equipment. If it¹s a few hundred feet away (as in less than 300) is cat-5 an option? It sounds like the apartment complex is a stink about appearance so digging a trench might not even work. Justin -- Justin Wilson

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hello Shaddi, We hope you find the technical guidance you seek on here and further invite you and other non-members to visit our technical forums available from wispa.org for vendor specific information. You mentioned you are on a tight budget so I wanted to quickly point out how far the $250

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Plenty of free advice on this list, no problem there. Two general rules are RF does not go through dirt (aka hill), period. And High frequencies like 5.x Ghz does not penetrate hard surfaces like brick and cement, and does not really penetrate anything well, so does not penetrate wood either

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Greg Ihnen
Ethernet over power lines? Greg On May 28, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: If you don’t have LOS you can’t overcome physics with any type of equipment. If it’s a few hundred feet away (as in less than 300) is cat-5 an option? It sounds like the apartment complex is a stink about

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Jerry Richardson
You are correct. I retract that statement. I have an AirMax AP up servicing business customers in a sector where I would not be adding more AP's in the same band. works great, latency is low, speed is high, customers are happy. this AP makes about $1000 a month -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Robert West
Nope. But I sure do miss Rickeesha. :( -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp Is that what you told

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Greg Ihnen
And think like the ham radio operators do in condo environments - conceal gear in everyday objects which pass condo association muster like flower pots, flag poles, bird feeders, fake bathroom roof vents etc. Greg On May 28, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Plenty of free advice on this

[WISPA] Stupid MT tricks

2010-05-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OK, yeah, I'm frustrated I'm sitting here beside a nice shiny new Dell Power Edge T310 server. Nothing fancy. Just a good processor, lots of memory, sata, gigE, etc. Just what a person would normally expect in a new server. 4.9 will load but doesn't see ANY of the ethernet ports. 5.x

Re: [WISPA] Stupid MT tricks

2010-05-28 Thread Justin Wilson
Have you tried a netinstall? This always solves my issues when I run into issues with x86 hardware. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
My favorite is those damn PS3 customers. If the PS3 servers sense even one time-out or several pings above what they want the customer calls screaming that we are at fault. It's forced us to follow our network back until we found a switch causing the intermittent time-outs (about one every

Re: [WISPA] Stupid MT tricks

2010-05-28 Thread Paul Hendry
Been there, done that. Did you check the NIC's against MT's hardware compatability list before ordering? -original message- Subject: [WISPA] Stupid MT tricks From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Date: 28/05/2010 5:09 pm OK, yeah, I'm frustrated I'm sitting here beside a nice shiny

Re: [WISPA] Nationwide POTs Aggregator

2010-05-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We use a company called Purespeed for our dialup. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide POTs Aggregator On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 19:45

Re: [WISPA] Nationwide POTs Aggregator

2010-05-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We were able to use my Netsapiens adapter with a fax machine lately. I'm told it worked perfectly. marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide POTs

Re: [WISPA] Stupid MT tricks

2010-05-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I think the embedded NICs are Broadcom and expansion NICs are Intel in Dell's world. Could be wrong on that though, it's been some time. On 5/28/10, Paul Hendry paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com wrote: Been there, done that. Did you check the NIC's against MT's hardware compatability list

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Josh Luthman
That's odd...every other mention of consoles includes Xbox problems and wishing it was as problem free as the PS3 and Wii. On 5/28/10, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: My favorite is those damn PS3 customers. If the PS3 servers sense even one time-out or several pings above

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
How ridiculous is this thread? Why wouldn't Jack have some fun with your 'title' name since its obviously false. And for those who act like we're insulting a new member we're not stupid, his name is Jason Philbrook not dinkle whatever and if he chooses to use a goofy name he opens himself up

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Justin Wilson
Xbox live has figured out how to deal with this. I was playing online with a crappy 900mhz connection at 50%ccq and still could play. PS3 would never be able to handle that amount of poor quality. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'm also looking for something better here. We have our own dns servers. Who's good at configuring them to run as fast as possible from the customer's perspective? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Although I agree with most of what you say, specifically there are huge risks that USF will just go straight to the Cellular carriers to build out more mobile phone towers to deliver broadband. In order to win a battle to dispand USF, we have to effectively combat other's objections to

Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

2010-05-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I can only remember one customer ever complaining about PS3 problems, the Xbox on the other hand, we have problems with all the time - although those are mainly caused by NAT, which doesn't seem to bother the PS3. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Justin Wilson
DNS tuning is pretty straightforward. One of my guy¹s is awesome at it. If you are running BIND there are quite a bit of things you can do. We are running bind in some VM¹s and they are still quite fast. The trick is do it as close to the customer as you can (duh! You say). Djbdns is

Re: [WISPA] Short-range NLOS question

2010-05-28 Thread Robert West
Ubiquiti is coming out with some new 900MHz gear in August. Might be worth waiting for. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Jack Unger
Hi Mark, Thanks for taking the time to present your views is such a well thought out fashion. I'm learning a lot from the equally constructive discussion that has followed. You're right to infer that WISPA's official position(s) will be discussed and decided by WISPA Members. Those Members

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Tony C. Loosle
Marlon, try simpledns from www.jhsoft.com tony I'm also looking for something better here. We have our own dns servers. Who's good at configuring them to run as fast as possible from the customer's perspective? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett"

Re: [WISPA] Redline SUO CPE certified for upper 3.65 band

2010-05-28 Thread Jack Unger
Gino, I'm cross posting this over to the 3650 Members list. jack Gino Villarini wrote: http://tinyurl.com/39qcu35 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

[WISPA] WISPA's Plans for June 15 TV White Space Forum in Washington DC

2010-05-28 Thread Jack Unger
I'm pleased to announce WISPA's plans for participation in the TV White Spaces Summit http://groups.sdrforum.org/p/cm/ld/fid=92 on June 15th in Washington DC. WISPA will be represented by three FCC Committee Members - Alex Phillips, Rusty Irvin and Tom DeReggi. Alex will officially

[WISPA] Board Participation at the Regional Meeting is HIGH

2010-05-28 Thread Rick Harnish
I now have 5 committed registrations from the 9 Board members and 3 verbal commitments. This may very well be the FIRST event in the history of WISPA when all Board Members are present in the same place at the same time. I congratulate my fellow Board members for their hard work and commitment

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Tom, Thank you for asking your questions - I have some awesome answers for you. 1) Alaska. Alaska does indeed have an infrastructure problem. Alaska also receives an enormous amount of federal support already along with substantial revenues from their natural resources, mainly oil

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread jp
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 01:39:06PM -0600, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Tom, Thank you for asking your questions - I have some awesome answers for you. 1) Alaska. Alaska does indeed have an infrastructure problem. Alaska also receives an enormous amount of federal support already

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Forbes Mercy
I nominate Matt Larsen to serve on the panel for USF at the Regional Meeting! Wouldn't it be interesting if Tom was on there to? I'd go just for the debate! On 5/28/2010 12:39 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Tom, Thank you for asking your questions - I have some awesome answers for you.

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm glad I asked. Good answers. So let me ask one more to both you and membership... Why would we possibly want to lobby to keep USF? Is there one? (That is realistic and legelly viable to achieve.) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread jp
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:15:08AM -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: I've always been pro-tax credit, based on my personal agenda. I think it incourages investment, not only helps reduce an ISP's tax burden. However, from my experience debating ARRA, I learned there can be some disadvantages of Tax

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
While I'm at it Next Quesetions Im sure the feds will easilly understand why we WISPs want the USF to be killed. But, should the feds accommodate the intersts of 1000 WISPs/ISPs or a 100 million rural consumers? At the end of the day, there is an acknowledged digital divide, and

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'll be there. But if we keep getting all this good feedback from everyone, there wont be much left to debate :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband SURVEY

2010-05-28 Thread Jack Unger
I agree. Most of the questions are too convoluted to clearly understand. For a survey like this to have any meaning at all, the questions need to be written clearly so everyone will understand them the same way. Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: On 5/27/2010 12:13 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Done

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband

2010-05-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Those companies you fear have always had more money than our ISPs. It's about customer service and adopting technology, that we survive, not by financial superiority. I only partially agree. The facts are, people with funding can build faster than those that dont and have to fund their

Re: [WISPA] How the FCC Proposes the Regulate Broadband - NTIA Press release today

2010-05-28 Thread Brian Webster
The NTIA just did a press release today saying they are going to let the state broadband mapping agencies modify their grants for the mapping efforts http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press/2010/SBDDNewWindow_05282010.html Not to sound self serving but to get better WISP participation, and showing many of

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Jon Auer
So, speaking of cache tuning, Who is ready for DNSSEC? On May 28, 2010 11:44 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: DNS tuning is pretty straightforward. One of my guy¹s is awesome at it. If you are running BIND there are quite a bit of things you can do. We are running bind in some VM¹s

Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

2010-05-28 Thread Chris Gotstein
Depends what you mean by ready? For being able to answer DNSSEC queries, i'm all good to go. As far signing domains with it, i have yet to venture down that path. On 5/28/2010 8:59 PM, Jon Auer wrote: So, speaking of cache tuning, Who is ready for DNSSEC? On May 28, 2010 11:44 AM, Justin