Re: [WISPA] awesome mount
Nothing more permanent than a temporary install. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of heith Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] awesome mount This was done by a former tech that forgot to fix his temp mount several years ago due to insufficient parts availability. The Canopy belongs to a computer store who called last night a few minutes before 5 PM. They were cool with us coming down at 8 this morning. A few minutes later the bar that uses the UBNT called saying their point of sale system was down during Wing Night. My tech had just left for the day to go to his martial arts class so I was stuck making the fix. Was I surprised to see this monstrosity with the bolts pulled out of the OSB board and laying on its side. Fortunately there were a few dish network roof mounts laying around with extra bricks to get me by ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts
One tip for the Skywalker mount (I used them all the time they're great) is to use a die set and retool all the screws or you will have issues taking them off and putting them on. They used crappy tool and die and its painful if you don't. It's time consuming I know but do it or you'll hate yourself. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts I don't have my order handy, but Skywalker was under $10. On 10/3/2014 6:24 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: I finally found some at katerno.com that we are going to try. Spending between $20 and $40 for what we were spending $8 on seemed difficult to deal with. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:20 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts Mowinet sells them says out of stuck right now tho — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: Thanks Scott and Louis. We will take a look. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Eave Mounts We just ordered similar product from Skywalker. On 10/3/2014 2:58 PM, Louis Arsenault wrote: http://aisatellite.com/products#Eaves-Mounts On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote: Awhile back someone posted some information about a particular mount they really liked. It was similar to the one below. Item #: MTPEVE: http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bra cket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy- mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html We tried them out and the guys loved them. Problem is SummitSource has been and expects to remain out of stock. Anybody have another source for these types of mounts? thanks, Kevin ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4176/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas
I think the big plus with the KP antennas is they come with a cover for the rocket. You'll have to buy a RF Elements cover if you're using stock Rockets with stock UBNT antennas. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] KP Performance vs UBNT Antennas I am hoping to find someone who has used both UBNT and KP Performance antennas (with Rockets) who would be willing to share their experiences of one vs the other. For this project I'm specifically looking at 13 dBi omni antennas, but am curious about how the sector antennas compare as well. Thanks Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] package ideas
you can add about $10-20 in taxes and fees on ATT here in Indiana. That also goes for all the telecoms like Endeavor, Comcast, etc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] package ideas Always check to see what the price add-ons are for those services... Is AT*T charging the $5/month modem fee? How about the USF fee? That $34.95 could be closer to $45 when they get done and that needs to be clear to who you are selling to... On 05/07/2014 10:47 PM, John Thomas wrote: My suggestion was only relative to your current pricing. For reference, ATT UVerse in my area is $34.95 for 6 Meg down, and 768 k up, and when you go past 150 gigs in a month, it's $10 for each 50 gigs. Charter is bragging about 30 megs down, and 4 megs up, capped at 250 gig ( I think) for $29.95 (12 month promo), however, they have it oversubscribed so bad I have run speed tests to Charters speedtest server and got 30 kilobits per second down-not a good way to impress a $100 per month Business class customer. Greg Osborn gregwosb...@gmail.com wrote: It's gotta make dollars to make sense. You might have to explain that the cable/telcos don't come for them for that reason. If they can't get a high take rate, they can't make money either. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *wi...@mncomm.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2014 5:25 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] package ideas is that something you've done and people pay for that? I need to do some market research for these customers. A lot of customers are stuck with me, might leave a bad taste when in town customers can get 30 meg for $50 or so a month. I have customers beating me for more speeds but I have a lot that think they are getting robbed at what they get now LOL *From:*John Thomas mailto:jtho...@quarnet.com *Sent:*Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] package ideas How about adding 5 Meg at $79, then 10 Meg at $109? wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote: So, I am going to be twisting on the owners soon. I need to start offering different packages to our customers, getting tired of people wanting more speed. If they want more than everyone they need to pay for it. So, aside from special instances, the vast majority of our subs pay $45 per month for unlimited usage. No real statement on speed, but typically we set most to a stream of 1.6 meg or so, enough where they can run Netflix in basic definition with no buffering. We have some set to a little more depending on needs. If I can get by they usually get 512 up down with some bursting, but those are far and few between with streaming media. I was thinking of setting all of those users to 1.5 or 2 meg for the $45 and jumping to a 5 meg package for $69 per month. I currently charge most businesses $69, they may not get much more speed just expedited service from us if they have issues. I was also thinking, if I can stretch it out, to 10 meg for $100 a month. We are negotiating for more bandwidth from our upstream shortly, I believe our towers are capable of of meeting these needs for the most part. If not I am hoping the prospect of selling more will offset the additional upgrade costs I figure if only 10 percent of the $45 customers upgraded to $69 it would generate an additional $50k a year. Anyways I wanted to throw it out to you folks to see what they have experienced in doing similar situations. I am sure I will get some back lash from certain areas where a competitor might be able to do something better or cheaper or customers that want it all for nothing, the ones who think they are getting screwed anyways heith -- -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these?
Here's where I get mine. http://skywalker.com/Products/Aska-AMT-2-DBS-Dish-GableEve-Mount__ASK1012.aspx From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of heith petersen Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these? Awesome! I talked with these same exact guys a half hour ago on the phone and they didn’t have the previous part number in stock, but failed to locate these for me. Thanks for the help! heith From: Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone use these? This looks like a different manufacturer http://www.summitsource.com/eagle-satellite-dish-gable-eave-mount-bracket-universal-support-outdoor-hdtv-antenna-aerials-with-swivel-easy-mount-setup-part-perfect-evemnt-p-6109.html On 3/11/2014 12:52 PM, heith petersen wrote: imagewlmailhtml:%7b2887E7F4-CEDA-4E94-8319-D79B08E0DC6C%7dmid://0448/!cid:part2.05080608.04020006@nwwnet.net My guys have been using the piss out of these for the last few years. Creates a real stable mount to and adjusts real nicely to the pitch of your standard fascia. Anyways this company, GEM, has quit manufacturing them. If anyone else uses a similar device and knows who might have some in stock that would be great. Maybe something Wireless Beehive could make thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7179 - Release Date: 03/11/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
I've blown out countless Mikrotik boards without shielded cable. I use Primus or Apex9 shielded cable and I get them from Tiffany Jones @ CTI. Primus is my first choice though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of heith petersen Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Fair enough From: Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box We do not use UBNT, so I can not help you with that. On 1/23/2014 9:02 AM, heith petersen wrote: Are you using the unshielded for UBNT installs? I have started to to avoid radio defaulting due to crap cable install. Well, I havent seen the cables myself but they were unshielded and may have taken a surge of sorts. From: Scott Reed mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:31 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations. Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers. On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote: I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for towers and installs so there is that option — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer :: On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote: Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7024 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7026 - Release Date: 01/22/14 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 Toll-free (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment
This helps thanks. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment is the bottle neck on your network the fiber connection out to the Internet or at your APs? for us the APs are the biggest bottleneck and the fiber internet connection (GigE) has plenty of bandwidth. so in our case a cache server wouldn't do much except chew a hole in my wallet. If your connection out to the internet is your bottleneck then it may help some but I wouldn't expect it to help more than 10%. 2 cents On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves ty...@wigi.us wrote: We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks. The setup is called a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server. Its a bandwidth management solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies. Any experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated from another wisp. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation
I've been using Primus cable from CTI. I love it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of heith petersen Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation I have to catch up on this stuff. We have been cussing the tough cable for months but now the newer stuff is a go? Don’t know if I could sell our partner on that. He cringes every time a piece of UBNT leaves the office for an install out in the field From: Clay Stewart mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:50 AM To: dco...@infowest.com ; WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4 second shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I'll have to agree with Josh. We like the Pro for residential installs. Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility. The box is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with. The Carrier version is overkill with two shields. We like shireen as well, but like the UBNT more. In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey flakes after being in the sun a few days. On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've been using the (new) ToughCable. The shielding is great and the plastic seems to actually work! The box, believe it or not, is actually a box now!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen he...@mn-wireless.com wrote: Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were using for something easier to work with thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 tel:435-674-0165%20x%202010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site
We've haven't had much luck with our UBNT 365 ptmp setups either. Not that they're horrible but it's not giving us optimal performance. Also don't think that you're going to make shots through a grove of trees because it's not going to work. A tree maybe but you're pushing it. I've got a neighborhood with about a dozen or less customers on each sector (2 sectors total) and the capacity sucks but i'm also using 5mhz channels. I have everyone at -70 or better and we're seeing 50% quality 50% capacity. All shots under 1/4 mile. Dear God I hope Cambium comes out with a 450 3.65ghz solution because the options we have right now are downright horrid. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site I have to agree with Gino. I have not had much luck with M365 PTMP setup. PTP is fine but you only have 25MHz to use. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site Don't do it?? Where'd that come from. There's really only two models of CPEs in the 3.65 world... the NanoStation and the NanoBridge. The NanoStation will be good for about a mile clear line of site. The NanoBridge will be good a few miles out, and perhaps closer with a small obstruction (bush, single tree, etc). 3GHz requires nearly clear line of site to operate properly. You must register your 3GHz with the FCC and pay the $200 license fee. You must coordinate with grandfathered earth stations if there are any near you. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 7/31/13 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Hey it could work... Why are you replacing the gear? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Don't do it... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site We are putting up a 3.65 GHz system next week to take existing customers off of an existing Canopy 2.4GHz system. Is there anyone who has deployed the 3 Ghz gear from Ubnt and could recommend which model of CPE and if there anything to know to avoid a steep 'learning curve' since we have never deployed anything from Ubiquiti until now. Suggestions as to the best prices are most welcome too! Thanks, Daniel ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DIN rail mount front facing POE injector
I 3rd that! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DIN rail mount front facing POE injector Yes it does! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 17, 2013 9:50 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Works great!! On 7/17/2013 9:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: PacketFlux. 4 or 8 ports. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 17, 2013 8:59 AM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote: Is anyone using a compact but high capacity POE injector that DIN rails mounts? We have used a lot of the devices that we have pictured but they are a pain to install in small cabinets, plus their only cable plug is from the side. I have seen a lot on the net, but mostly 1 or 2 port models. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6497 - Release Date: 07/16/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 tel:%28765%29%20855-1060 (765) 439-4253 tel:%28765%29%20439-4253 (855) 231-6239 tel:%28855%29%20231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap
I wouldn't exceed 30 either with each AP. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jrichard...@aircloud.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap With 5x5 and 5x3 sustained ~30. ~Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry White Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] # of subs per ap I have put up 2 UBNT 3.65 ap on a tower with a 60 mg fiber backhaul. I have set the Aps to 10 MHZ Channel and was going to offer a 5x5 or a 5x3. how many subs should I expect to be able to put on each ap Thanks Terry White United Services (800) 585 - 6454 twh...@ueci.coop http://www.unitedsky.net/WildBule/index.html http://www.unitedsky.net/DirecTV/index.html http://www.unitedsky.net/UnitedSky/index.html Your Local Satellite Professionals inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpginline: image003.jpg___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired
Please turn off autoreply while you're on your extended hike. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of mbuss...@designnine.com Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:12 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired I will be on vacation from 5-5-2013 to 5-13-2013. I will be on an extended hike and will truly have no access to phone or email. Please contact Mike Vellines for assistance (mvelli...@designnine.com, 540.951.4400). Thanks, Matt ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Airband acquired
you can also put yourself on vacation in the list. just login to your account. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband acquired That's why it's smart to use a secondary address for list traffic... Regards, Jeff Broadwick Bitlomat Sales Director 847-238-2481 Office 574-220-7826 Cell www.bitlomat.com https://www.facebook.com/Bitlomat http://www.linkedin.com/company/bitlomat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Coenraad Loubser Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List; atrimm...@precisionds.com Cc: mbuss...@designnine.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired You're begging for another response! :-p Perhaps we should demand a full hike report or set of photos instead? PS. Smart mail software has an option to only respond if you are explicitly in the list of recipients, so as to avoid this exact scenario. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Please turn off autoreply while you're on your extended hike. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of mbuss...@designnine.com Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:12 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Airband aquired I will be on vacation from 5-5-2013 to 5-13-2013. I will be on an extended hike and will truly have no access to phone or email. Please contact Mike Vellines for assistance (mvelli...@designnine.com, 540.951.4400). Thanks, Matt ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Short UBNT PTP link
For shear cost effectiveness I'd agree with Josh. You're going to be falling a bit short of 50Mbps full duplex if you go with Rocket gear. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:14 PM To: us...@wug.cc Cc: WISPA General List; a...@afmug.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WUG] Short UBNT PTP link Ubnt at 20 MHz will get you at most 80 megs aggregate. If you need 50 fdx you're falling short. If you're using 3.65 I'm not sure what your other options would be, Redline is more carrier grade but I'm not sure of the bandwidth. Depending on the price of carrier grade stuff it might just be easier to do AirFiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Hi Gang, I am looking at installing a short (100m) PTP backhaul across a campground for a wifi system we are putting in. I'm looking at using a pair of UBNT NSM365 units to accomplish this. I need about 50Mbps full duplex. I'd like to use the 3.65Ghz spectrum for this PTP so that i keep all my other part15 spectrum clean. Is this the best option or do you have another recommendation. I'm a bit new to UBNT and not completely familiar with the product line. Thanks for your help. -sean --- Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...
I'd recommend the standard of making sure APs are on one tower and slaves are on the other. AP-AP | \ SL SL + + SL SL |\ APAP -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:49 AM To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower... Hi All I was wondering what is your experience on Airfiber. In particular my question is if the following scenario could work or not work in your opinion/experience On tower at LocationA there are two Airfiber pointing at the same direction LocationB and LocationC, more or less. On the tower at LocationA, the two airfibers are mounted at let's say 1-2 meters distance (horizontal and vertical) and 10 degrees of difference in the 2 directions LocationB and LocationC. LocationB and LocationC are two other towers both pointing at LocationA. I am wondering if at 24Ghz I could see some interference or not , in this situaitons Thank you in advance -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Medical companies
We also have a ton of customers that work for hospitals. There's no reason why they can't use your service. I've argued with IT guys for big companies like Eli Lilly when we set customers up with WPA or WPA2 on their routers and their company laptop won't connect because they only allow WEP. Ironic eh? Encryption that can be cracked in under a minute and they're worried about a WISP. Once the VPN connection is made it shouldn't matter what kind of internet they have. I do see requirements for speed is going up though in some cases. We did have a lady leave our service because her work requirement 4Mbps and we could only serve her 1.5Mbps in the forest she lived in. Hope this helps, Andy Trimmell Systems Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 @PDSWireless www.facebook.com/PDSWireless From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Asher Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Medical companies Hello All, I have someone who wants to work from home, they work for a hospital and the hospital says they have to use dsl and wireless is not allowed. Is this a law, maybe hipaa? Thank you for any info. -- Mike Asher Atm-Internet 765-792-6165 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Slides
Nathan said it would be middle to end of this week. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides I suspect there will be an announcement when they are. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:58:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] Slides Are the slides from the various presentations up yet? -- Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Slides
He let us know at the closing ceremony. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides Thanks, I had not heard that. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 10/31/12 9:19 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: Nathan said it would be middle to end of this week. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slides I suspect there will be an announcement when they are. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:58:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] Slides Are the slides from the various presentations up yet? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue
Since we had the first issue like this we started using industrial cisco switches at each site with spanning tree on. That at least shuts the port off until we can find the bad radio instead of ruining the entire tower. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joey Craig Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue Has happened to us several times over the past 2 years. Just figured the static from the lightning messed with the radio. We have tried doing the firmware recovery procedure, but the problem continued even on the bench testing. It acted like someone plugged their router in backwards. Finally decided to just throw them in the trash figuring lightning damage was not covered under the warranty. We never investigated it any further. Joey Craig Network/RF Engineer Firenet1.Com http://www.firenet1.com/ Phone: (662) 510-0764 Mobile: (662) 404-1118 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Stephens Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:47 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti and thunderstorm issue This has also occurred with NS2 and NSM365. The network is running really slow to no internet for customers after a lighting storm rolls thru. Ping an AP on the network and you get 2 reply then 2 timeouts 2 reply 2 timeouts repeatedly. Looking at the ARP table of the Mikrotik router for that network and one MAC is registered to a lot of ip addresses belonging to other equipment on the network (The device also announces that it owns the gateway also). Locate the device for that mac and log into that device, (keeping deleting the arp tables entries in order to get there) and Disable the LAN interface. I ARP stealing stops. Replacing the radio is the long term fix. This has happened quite a few times after lightning storms and across all the different devices made by Ubiquiti. Reloading or upgrading firmware has no effect. Today we had one on one network and two on a different network. With two of them it was even harder to fix. Had to MAC access deny the radios to get service restored on the network. Are we the only one with this issue? Has some one else had this issue and found a fix? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Sales Technician Ptera Wireless Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 For technical support visit http://www.ptera.net/support - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fax VoIP solution
Since we get about 10 faxes a year we use Fax.com Easy to send and receive. You can add email addresses that are able to send to it and as easy as sending an email to 317...@fax.com sends it to the phone number 317-555-. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:19 PM To: a...@afmug.com; us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fax VoIP solution Just talked to someone who has been having good luck with this solution. Put a server in your NOC and then the AudioCodes device is $150 http://www.faxback.com/ http://www.faxback.com/Index.html Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method
I have a little Acer netbook that I take up with me. It weighs as much as an ipad. I just hate that I cant see it in the sunlight very good. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Site Survey Method Many android tablets have ethernet ports. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Android-2-3-PC-Netbook-Tablet-4GB-Superpad-GPS-HDMI-Camera-Bundle-/261026229869?pt=US_Tabletshash=item3cc6602e6d On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote: At 11:05 AM 5/16/2012, you wrote: Trying to figure out a good way to do site surveys and monitor signal strength while on the customer's roof To this day, I'm still using the same iPad PDA I used 12 years ago when I bought it. I've not seen anything come along that would replace it. It's a PDA with the accessory pack thing attached, so that I can run an Orinoco PCMCIA card in it. Someone back then whipped up driver for WinCE so that the Orinico card worked. (Lonnie) With that and a hand held small tubular yagi, it works like a charm. It reads 802.11b only of course. Shows other AP's, signal strength, noise floor, etc. I use a 15db yagi and pigtail to the Orinoco. Climb onto the roof, sweep for signal, read the level, and you can easily calculate margin for various alternative antennas. What I'd really like to find is a hand held device like that with an Etnernet port. It seems nobody puts Ethernet ports in anything smaller than a laptop and even that's getting replaced more and more with wireless. Rk ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
One customer that knows enough to be dangerous runs around town telling 20 people they hate your service. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers Yes there are. But the ones who don't know what you are doing cost you money, time, and reputation. Had one guy just the other day called every time his Internet went out. This had been going on for 3 days. It would go out for 3-4 minutes at a time. He's a gamer and belongs to some Clan. Guy was so irate one of the younger techs went out and sat with him for an hour. During that time his Internet went out 3 times. Tech breaks out a 751, hooks it up, Internet lasts an hour. Hooks his router backup and within 15 minutes Internet goes out. We were willing to give him the 751 and just charge him for the service call. The Customers response was I paid $200 for this gaming router. If you can't make it work I am switching. Even if we installed our own router he was going to hook up his gaming router anyway because the box said optimized for online gaming. Service was pulled, he want to the 15 meg Wild Blue, and now he is begging to come back because he can't deal with 700ms ping times. This customer was so clueless and such a loud mouth he scared away 3 installs, not to mention all the support time. That is why we don't install software. Most of the time we si the customer in front of the computer and walk them through the configuration. No room for I don't know what they did to my computer but now my printer doesn't work. Justin From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca Reply-To: stewa...@westcreston.ca, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:54 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers Been following this thread ... seems like you guys assume that ALL your customers, and ALL users of internet are total idiots with crappy equipment. Surely there are some who have decent equipment and know what they are doing. :-) Al -- At 12:53 PM 4/27/2012 -0400, Andy Trimmell wrote: --- Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01CD2496.54597EFE You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much money you lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our responsibility. We do require our customers to have one at the time of the installation and we set it up for them. We explain that our responsibility starts at the little white/black box (injector) includes the cable and the unit on the roof. Anything else is their problem. We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP letting them know that they‚re „internet is working great! But oops! Your router has lost its configuration‰ „here‚s the instructions in this pdf or you can call us for a $30 router setup.‰ „you‚re also welcome to bring in the router for us to configure free of charge.‰ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only causing problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when I install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I will fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it. If they cause an issue with my equipment or by adding another router and they expect me to fix it, there will be a charge. If they follow my instructions, they will be taken care of. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided router? From: Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control everything up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I provide the router. I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like Charter or the phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their own wireless router. That same bad mouthing will happen for my company
Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
You really think customers listen? I had a lady blame us for lightning hitting her TV. People are going to blame you regardless of how much money you lose on them. We also keep routers separate of our responsibility. We do require our customers to have one at the time of the installation and we set it up for them. We explain that our responsibility starts at the little white/black box (injector) includes the cable and the unit on the roof. Anything else is their problem. We have a nifty screen that pops up when their router is on DHCP letting them know that they're internet is working great! But oops! Your router has lost its configuration here's the instructions in this pdf or you can call us for a $30 router setup. you're also welcome to bring in the router for us to configure free of charge. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers They should have no reason to do that and if they do, they're only causing problems for themselves with double or triple NAT. I make it clear when I install that the router I give them is the only router they can use and I will fix/replace it free of charge if THEY don't break it. If they cause an issue with my equipment or by adding another router and they expect me to fix it, there will be a charge. If they follow my instructions, they will be taken care of. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: How do you handle the customers who then put a link sys behind your provided router? From: Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers I understand not wanting to touch the router but I want to control everything up until I hand off to the customer's equipment which means I provide the router. I hear from too many people that blame their ISP like Charter or the phone company for bad internet when much of the time it is their own wireless router. That same bad mouthing will happen for my company if the customer continues to use crappy routers so I thought I would provide one to them, configure it, lock it, and replace it if it ever fails. That way, I am handing out something reliable that works and if they need help, I'm there to fix it for them. In my opinion, that should cut down on tech support calls if the router is stable. I am currently testing the Ubiquiti Airrouters and the TP-Link TL-WR841N On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I would avoid the 751 for now based on my hell of an experience. That's just me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 26, 2012 6:27 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: My Take on routers. Off the shelf routers are the #1 trouble issue on the Zig network. Anything from gaming issues, to speed issues, to reliability issues. They account for roughly 92% of all calls. The first thing we have the customer do after reboots of everything is bypass the router. Most of the time this shows the customer it's their router, or something behind it. In our past life we started out selling routers. We looked for the cheapest ones we could find, which at the time were dlink. What we found was customers then considered that our equipment. Well the router you sold me went out. was something we heard a lot. Or I reset the router now you have to come out and configure it What we are doing this time around is we have only one officially approved router. The Mikrotik 751. We have a local computer shop which stocks them and sets them up. What he does as far as support is between him and the customer. I am pretty sure he tells them he is just a retailer for the product and if they want his help he will gladly charge them his hourly rate. All about expectations up front. By doing all of this we are not in the router business, but the customer gets a solid product and cuts down on our calls. In turn we have a happier customer base. And if need be, we can actually login to their router and do torch, etc. Justin From: Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:31 PM
[WISPA] New employee quiz
I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I sent you offlist because of the abundance of negative comments I have about them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SBA Towers Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
We use Cisco E1000 E1200 WRT54g. We also found out that WRT110 120 and 300 320 do not pass traffic through PPPoE no matter what you do. We're also using a Microsoft network if that question was to come up. I've also found out that Belkin's are horrible for staying connected and Netgears by default are dial on demand instead of Keep Alive. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 tel:317.831.3000%20ext%20211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Exactly! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Oshatz. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off
This is a real sticky subject. We had a problem like this and had to post a warning not allowing customers to drop off cash payments. The other problem was people were dropping off checks and putting them in the door because they didn’t see the drop box and the checks just blew away when someone opened the door. I would be very leery of taking cash drop offs in any case. I will only take cash when they’re handed from one hand to another hand. But if it’s a must I’d put a ubnt camera on it and make a drop box cut out on the office like at the bank. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of gregosb...@onlyinternet.net Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off We were looking at lock boxes at lowest... That plus a ubnt camera seems like a solution for under $150 Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Customer Payment Drop-off We are outfitting a new office location. We have customer that, for whatever reason, like to drop-off their payments which are sometimes cash. So, I am looking for suggestions on what to use for a secure payment drop-box. If you accept after hours drop-off payments, what do you use to collect them? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs
That's a pretty good range of what I've heard also. 30-50. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs Unfortunately you asked a question that doesn't have a great solid answer. You're going to need to monitor throughput usage on the sector to really answer that question for you. However, with that said, you can probably get upwards of 30-50 on a sector without issue. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/17/12 10:58 AM, Carl Shivers wrote: We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65 APs; 1,3,5 and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients we can get on each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of our customers would be in the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are purchasing the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Doppler
Looking at northern Missouri on wunderground.com I can see a streak going northwest of St Louis skimming north of Macon and south of Kirksville. Anyone out there blasting equipment? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage
Definitely a good way to look at it. We actually took ATT's plan and doubled it to show how fair we were. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage I believe Excessive usage should be calculated by considering the average use. Ignore the top 5% and lower 5% users, then add up all those in between and divide by the number of subs considered, and taht will give a good average. If 50G is the average, its OK if one guy does 75, if its matched by a guy that only does 25. Thats what over subscription and averaging is all about. Then you need to calculate your total available capacity. Then you need to calculate your total cost to deliver that capacity. Until you have those numbers, you dont really know what you should charge for averge usage. Is average usage above or below your cost to deliver, from a per GB point of view? How much growth in average use can you tolerate, and still be profitable? I'd suggest doubleing average usage, and start charging extra per GB, once it exceeds that value of doubling average use. But even then, that misses the boat. You really need to define how many subs you want to be able to serve per sector, and then calaculate the maximum tolerable average use able to be accommodated on your technology. What ever that number is, you then need to compare it to what your current average use is. When I calculate cost, I pretend I have half the badnwdit h that I have. If its a 10mb sector, I consider it 5mb. That allows the business model to work during growth phase, understanding that you'll need to upgrade to handle demand before a network is saturated. And factoring that a network works less good when operating at peak capacity, so leaving your self some headroom. I dont actually carge people pe GB, but the math is all the same, whether the choice is to charge more when it reaches a threshold versus bandwdith limit when a threashold has been reached. Another approach is to compare it to the cost of a movie. For example, if Comcast charges $5 for a movie, and an average movie is 5GB large, then charge $1 per GB. Make it a financial deission for the customer to choose video over Internet versus Dish/Comcast, so it is strictly a decission of convenience. My point is, its not a generic answer what to charge. It reall dpends what your capacity and costs are, which can vary drastically for many reasons. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Andy Trimmell mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage If your #2 user is using 37GB then I'd call anything above 75GB excessive. Our biggest package is 60GB and then charge $1 per GB over with a maximum of a $250 monthly bill. So in theory they can have an unlimited package for $250 a month J We have a guy that consistently goes to about 120gb per month. He pays for a business package which is $100 a month and he sometimes goes over $10 a something. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage What do you folks feel is excessive usage on your system? And how do you deal with it? Do you have bandwidth limits? Where do you draw the line. I have one residential sub who month after month uses more bandwidth than the next 3-4 residential subs combined. Last month, they used over 105GB. Is this excessive? The next top residential sub in the same month consumed 37GB (which in and of itself was 10GB higher than the next one). With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . . . Thoughts? Kind Regards, David Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage
If your #2 user is using 37GB then I'd call anything above 75GB excessive. Our biggest package is 60GB and then charge $1 per GB over with a maximum of a $250 monthly bill. So in theory they can have an unlimited package for $250 a month J We have a guy that consistently goes to about 120gb per month. He pays for a business package which is $100 a month and he sometimes goes over $10 a something. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage What do you folks feel is excessive usage on your system? And how do you deal with it? Do you have bandwidth limits? Where do you draw the line. I have one residential sub who month after month uses more bandwidth than the next 3-4 residential subs combined. Last month, they used over 105GB. Is this excessive? The next top residential sub in the same month consumed 37GB (which in and of itself was 10GB higher than the next one). With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . . . Thoughts? Kind Regards, David Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP
I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is Frontier. I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it. I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers. What is my next step. What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC? Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP
Since the cabling probably comes down the wall I'd be more into the UniFi stuff mounted up in the ceiling. They look like smoke alarms and I'd think they'd be less tampered with coming out of the ceiling. Comes with the metal bracket and the software management is extremely nice if you're using a lot of them. Sorry if I'm getting away from wallplate only installation. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jawad A Hai Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:39 AM To: scubac...@gmail.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wall plate style AP Ruckus has below which is similar to Extreme in looks, its about 280 USD list price. http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-indoor/7025 below are from Taiwan between 60-80 USD depends on QTY you pick, all supports b,g,n http://www.handlink.com.tw/products_wap-001.php http://www.equaline.com.tw/product_cg2793.html# -- From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] wall plate style AP Has anyone used or deployed these style access points? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izV6UnNSEyU And are there any other brands that do this sort of thing? I would imagine that there has to be cheaper versions out there -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
+1 for pretty shafty! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That's pretty shafty! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Installation videos
There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn't educational more for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education of our customers. Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they would like to share for ideas? Thanks, Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Installation videos
Does anyone remember the episodes of the provider that was doing youtube videos? It was pretty funny. Showed a couple episodes, cleaning out the van, installing an empty house From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation videos There was one out there from a Texas provider but it wasn't educational more for WISP entertainment. I forget the name though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Installation videos We are thinking of video documenting some customer installations and tower maintenance to post on youtube for the entertainment and education of our customers. Is anyone doing this now and have some videos they would like to share for ideas? Thanks, Pat Csweb.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits
So you got a better room for half the price. I can see why you went your own route. Kind of sucks you booked it and now you can't attend it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits I'm sorry, not per night, for the whole cruise. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: $139/night? The standard cabins were $279 for all 4 nights. Travis On 11/3/2011 10:29 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I know I checked on the cruise for myself, and with my timeshare discounts it was $139/night (or free if I transferred some of my timeshare in) in a much better room, not the base room. When I asked DR if I could pay an at the door reg fee, they said no. I decided not to go since I just got back from Vegas...too many things going on to leave another week...not because of their response. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Travis Johnsont...@ida.net wrote: The most interesting part is the cruise was only $279 per person. How much cheaper could he have gotten it with an employee discount? And how much would DR have to charge to allow this person into all the sessions/keynotes/afterhours free drinks/etc.? Travis On 11/3/2011 10:02 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: I would think if the guy was one of your customers and specifically went on the cruise to be a part of the show, then you could let it slide or at least have a door price. It seems to me a little good will for someone who helps support you all year is in order. And as to others attending, I say charge a door price and let them come if they really want. I doubt there would be a lot of takers. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I see your point and agree. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, David Sovereen david.sover...@mercury.net wrote: Shafty really? How much are they charging for the event? Zero, except that you need to book through them, and they derive some revenue through the booking. How much was registration to Wispapalooza? How much is registration to Animal Farm? The policy seems fair to me. I suppose they could charge an event registration fee of ___ for persons who booked through another means, which might help Ralph's situation, but I don't think Double Radius' position is without merit. Dave From: Andy Trimmellatrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:09 AM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits +1 for pretty shafty! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Without Limits That's pretty shafty! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:58 PM, rwfralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: I will be on the cruise, but Double Radius is refusing to allow me to participate because I got my room through an employee discount and not their travel agent. If you want to meet up or talk, then the only thing I know is for you to leave me a note or voice mail for cabin 0004. Ralph Brightlan.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
Anyone know where to get these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/ Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
Do you have any vendors in the WISPA list? I've never bought from Winford. Let me rephrase my question. Would any vendors from the WISPA list please advise if you carry such a device? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/ Thanks, Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 Future reference, I've Googled way before I ask for assistance here. I usually get no response for hours or days on the general list anyways. Makes it even more less likely to ask on the WISPA general list in the future when a fast response is something like that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip LOL. The Feeling Lucky button brought it up first time searching for DIN Rail Mounting Clips. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I spent 30 minutes doing that already. You sound like my boss. Regards, Andy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip http://tinyurl.com/3grtq82 Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Anyone know where to get these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/ Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip
Do you buy from Winford regularly? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip I found the same at mini box...not a wispa vendor member, but have bought from them before. http://www.mini-box.com/Din-Rail-mounting-kit-for-M350 Winford has them cheaper. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Do you have any vendors in the WISPA list? I've never bought from Winford. Let me rephrase my question. Would any vendors from the WISPA list please advise if you carry such a device? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/ Thanks, Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 Future reference, I've Googled way before I ask for assistance here. I usually get no response for hours or days on the general list anyways. Makes it even more less likely to ask on the WISPA general list in the future when a fast response is something like that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip LOL. The Feeling Lucky button brought it up first time searching for DIN Rail Mounting Clips. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I spent 30 minutes doing that already. You sound like my boss. Regards, Andy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Din Clip http://tinyurl.com/3grtq82 Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Anyone know where to get these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jauer/4308768049/ Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Installation Supplies
We use Skywalker also with Bushings and Caulk. The silicone from skywalker is good too. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installation Supplies Skywalker. I don't use bushings though. I use caulk. http://www.skywalker.com/Categories/Wire-Management/Bushings.aspx ryan On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Matt wrote: Where does everyone order there installation supplies? I need some of the grommets for cat-5 entry again. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
Sounds like something my dad would do. I hope to be a dad like that. Builds character! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown Our network is NATed and hard to pin down the customer but about a year ago I had one customer who was behind the address the was being complained about that was uploading 20GB a month and it was all torrent. That's a bunch at 256K up. So I called and talked to dad. Explained our AUP on illegal material. The next day the dad brought the Kid to my office and had him sweep my service area floors while I factory restored of his computer to delete all the illegal content. I told the dad that this is not necessary and he informed me that it most definitely was. Since that time they have been great customers and bought several computers and I really appreciate the father making the kid follow the law. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown Ok. We just contacted a customer for the first time. We'll take your advice I think and respond to them and save the customer the grief. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response to a customer is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a teenager. I spin it where the very act of doing this is slowing down the customer's connection. If they are a customer who seems reasonable it might be prudent to mention such activities could expose them to lawsuits by movie companies. I don't mention illegal as to not freak out most customers. On the flipside you have the customers who share files just to be defiant to the RIAA. I don't have time to debate them. I typically do not pass on the request directly to the customer. Too many shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them they can be bullied into paying money. I just file these requests away and do respond to CYA. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they have been downloading copyrighted material. Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until we switched providers. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown My .02 It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency presents paperwork it is. It is not up to the ISP to be the Police. To me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is not. Let the experts determine that. My response to these is something along these lines: Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all appropriate paperwork to Insert Law Firm contact info here. If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge an administrative fee for providing any information on this customer. After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course. After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from law firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves. The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is due to a subpoena or other such legal document. Lessens your exposure for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter
Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
Well since these people aren't using our servers to keep their illegal software this section should cover it since it's their computer that has the illegal software not ours. § 512(a) Transitory Network Communications Safe Harbor Section 512(a) protects service providers who are passive conduits from liability for copyright infringement, even if infringing traffic passes through their networks. In other words, provided the infringing material is being transmitted at the request of a third party to a designated recipient, is handled by an automated process without human intervention, is not modified in any way, and is only temporarily stored on the system, the service provider is not liable for the transmission. The key difference in scope between this section, transitory network communications under 512(a), and caches, websites and search engine indexes under 512(b), 512(c) and 512(d) respectively, relates to the location of the infringing material. The other subsections create a conditional safe harbor for infringing material that resides on a system controlled by the OSP. For material that was temporarily stored in the course of network communications, this subsection's safe harbor additionally applies even for networks not under the OSP's control. Isn't that what all that means? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forrest W Christian (PF Lists) Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown For those of you who are just ignoring these: I'd recommend you read up on the DMCA safe harbor rules See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act In short, if you follow the steps under the law, you have an affirmative defense against the copyright holders suing you for contributory infringement. -forrest WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DMCA Takedown
How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to our provider with anything? We've just been passing the information onto the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? Most of the time its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an email and phone call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough or should we be responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky kids that foiled everything? Thanks Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they have been downloading copyrighted material. Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until we switched providers. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown My .02 It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency presents paperwork it is. It is not up to the ISP to be the Police. To me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is not. Let the experts determine that. My response to these is something along these lines: Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all appropriate paperwork to Insert Law Firm contact info here. If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge an administrative fee for providing any information on this customer. After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course. After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from law firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves. The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is due to a subpoena or other such legal document. Lessens your exposure for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to our provider with anything? We've just been passing the information onto the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? Most of the time its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an email and phone call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough or should we be responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky kids that foiled everything? Thanks Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown
Ok. We just contacted a customer for the first time. We'll take your advice I think and respond to them and save the customer the grief. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response to a customer is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a teenager. I spin it where the very act of doing this is slowing down the customer's connection. If they are a customer who seems reasonable it might be prudent to mention such activities could expose them to lawsuits by movie companies. I don't mention illegal as to not freak out most customers. On the flipside you have the customers who share files just to be defiant to the RIAA. I don't have time to debate them. I typically do not pass on the request directly to the customer. Too many shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them they can be bullied into paying money. I just file these requests away and do respond to CYA. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along the takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just wondering if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even passed along any notice to the customer at all stating they have been downloading copyrighted material. Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before a subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until we switched providers. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown My .02 It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency presents paperwork it is. It is not up to the ISP to be the Police. To me that's a loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is not. Let the experts determine that. My response to these is something along these lines: Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate with any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all appropriate paperwork to Insert Law Firm contact info here. If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge an administrative fee for providing any information on this customer. After legal paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course. After all, you are helping these people (most of these are from law firms seeking a bounty) make money themselves. The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is due to a subpoena or other such legal document. Lessens your exposure for lawsuits from the customers based upon privacy concerns. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to our provider with anything? We've just been passing the information onto the customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? Most of the time its kids downloading games. So we send the parents an email and phone call talking about the takedown request. Is that enough or should we be responding to the provider that we contacted the pesky kids that foiled everything? Thanks Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS
Please give me some positive points to the shield kits so I can present them. Every time I speak about them I get the who needs stinking shield kits Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS and the Shield Kits. I'll use them even after I use the GPS units. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/25/2011 10:17 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing the 5.4.3 improve things on point to multi point. How well does Ubiquiti handle PtmP? We have some Canopy AP's with 60+ users. Heard that since Ubiquiti uses a wifi chipset they cannot handle this kind of traffic? Wi-Fi chipset isn't equal to Wi-Fi protocol. With a single-sector, the new M family could handle large number of users using AirMax TDMA protocol. On multi-sector, it would have issues similar to Canopy without GPS; Ubiquiti now has GPS sync as well, but it's to soon to use it in a production network. What one can do now is buy Rocket GPS units but not rely on the GPS just yet, using all 3 separations (frequency, horizontal, vertical) for the time being. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
+1 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government allows us to be in business that IS the problem. Telecom Act or no, regulation or no, there should be no question that we are allowed to make a living the way we want to regardless. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I am going to address your points backwards:- You wrote --- And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. - We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed... The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services . and it is THE DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's off. You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to continue in this business. Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL EDGE sword here... ---You wrote- You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its soundness and validity. Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and every one has his own right to interpret the events . You wrote - Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with this administration or do a follow up with the previous administration.. that is as partisan as one can get I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the wrong organization.. it is not in WISPA's charter or mission, maybe should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov. has operated for the last 200 years WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)... While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA forums is more like 'Don Quixote Tilting at the windmills Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote: A plan of action? If I said this is what WISPA should do and laid it out in detail, all you'd do is say who are you? Why should we hacve to do what you say? Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty. You see, when you have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should do is crystal clear. Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult. Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. You seem to be interested in mere expediency. That's what's gotten us to this crisis point, the idea of managing the favoritism, the cronyism, etc, to favor you, or at least not hurt you too much. That's what's BEEN going on. Had we (WISPA) been looking for and actively seeking allies who would with us, say with many voices, but one message - hands off, and be a
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Depending on ports we've really liked the routermaxx 6 port gigabit router. Its affordable and super fast. http://www.balticnetworks.com/routermaxx-6-port-gigabit-router-dual-core .html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 The RB1000 is discontinued and the 1100 is a box product. What about the RB800? It uses a pretty decent PowerPC processor (with the crypto engine), has a daughtercard to add 10/100 slots, and looks like it can be mounted outdoors. The one thing I don't like is the fan; it is a moving part and I don't like those outdoors. The forums have had some complaints about heat in the CPU, so downclocking it might make sense. (Somebody posted a note about the new heat sink, with a picture of an anvil.) -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I agree. It costs $100 for each smartphone people have yet they want to download 50-600gb for $30. Not gonna happen From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I am either firing or increasing rates. I can't sit there and have customers doing 600 gigs for less then my cell bill... On May 4, 2011 6:58 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What to do about storm damaged SMs?
We also have the customer claim it on their home owners if they don't pay us for our CPE insurance. Home owners will cover it under their damage claim. Just as if the house fell on a car they were renting or borrowing for the weekend when the tornado came. It's not theirs but insurance would also cover that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What to do about storm damaged SMs? Two answer: My carrier has told me a tornado is a single event and all the gear damaged in a single event is covered by a single claim. I have had 2 customers suffer significant storm damage and both have submitted our gear and it has been covered. On 5/1/2011 10:37 AM, John McDowell wrote: We've sent out a mass email telling customers to call who were damaged by the Tornados. Does anyone know of anything we can do with Insurance for all these SMs we've lost? We'll probably have at least a hundred or more lost or damaged. We do the $4.99 lease on our radios. Can this be covered in their homeowners? If anyone has dealt with this I could use help in salvaging some of our losses here with Insurance, etc. Regards, John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 Office j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs?
If it was your equipments fault I'd say you couldn't charge for anything. However if the customer built a garage in front of the unit or reroofed the house and the roofers took it down or something like that, id say they'd definitely get a truckroll fee. Also unwillingness to trim a tree or something of that nature would be billable. Example: Our customer called 3 months after building a garage directly in front of the client unit that was on a pole on the ground. He called and acted like nothing was going on and said there was a problem with his internet. I looked at the signal and it was horrible. I asked the normal questions has anything changed recently? customer answers no We get to the house to find that there was a huge building in front of it. Another one customer calls demanding we come fix his internet so his daughter can use it for school on a Saturday evening. Again the customer said I don't know what the deal is I asked has anything changed recently? no replied the customer. Come to find out the customer cut through the cable with an aerator after noticing the unit 100' from the house and no light on the unit with 113 million plugs laying in the yard. Both billable fees. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs? Any thoughts on a service charge for on-site CPE repairs or relocating equipment due to changed signals. We have a bit of a disagreement within as to whether this would be ethical. The customer does not own the equipment at their location. We use a lot of 900Mhz so there are regular equipment relocates due to interference or degraded signals. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's
We have a problem that the cable we used is unable to bend to use their hole they made without drilling our own which would go right through the clip that holds it on. The door definitely wasn't thought through completely. It's really flimsy and if its kinda cold and an installer tries to take it off you might be stuck on the roof with a big gaping hole from breaking it off. We also broken the tab on the sliding mount right out of the box. It no longer has any tension after the first sliding test. Also the little quad holes on the bottom need to be plugged in case at some point it rains outside. I foresee the same thing that happened with the all plastic stationboxes where they just take a transient voltage and it cooks the radio since the only grounding you'll have is in the cable shielding. We're going to use the one we bought for a test unit inside and we won't be purchasing anymore. Cool idea just not thought through completely. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's Anyone tried these with a dish yet? On 3/30/2011 3:18 PM, Kevin Owen wrote: Excellent, that is great to hear. I take it that you aren't doing anything other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down. No additional weather proofing of the door? We are in a definite snow and rain zone so just a bit concerned. We are going to hang a couple later this week and just wanted to hear from others. I appreciate it. FCC cert = TV7SXT-5d Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT SXT's Do they have a FCC Cert? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis Burgessdmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet. Great performance. J --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: March 30, 2011 3:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT SXT's We just received our first shipment of the SXT's. While they are certainly very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the little door on the bottom. Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the weatherproofing of them? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby| InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet
You better watch it. They get mad now when you call it that! Go check your Fax Daily! It's called climate change, duh! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 11:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet Thats OK. Algore can get credit for global warming ;) On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: They left our poor old Al Gore. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: http://www.onlinemba.com/blog/internet-history/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer
We had an old one with a clip but it also had a plug that we used. Plugged it in inside the office then ran down to the switch and toned it out. I'm not sure what you can do without a few seconds of downtime. Have some 2way radios and a guy sitting at the switch running the probe across. Rinse and repeat From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer Have you tried to clip a toner on the outside of a cat5 cable and gotten it to tone down the line? I'm curious if any/some/most toners are strong enough to get to the copper. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com wrote: You should be able to use a tone/probe kit to trace the lines out. Clip the toner on one cable, return to switch and use the probe to locate that line, then repeat on each successive line. Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:14 AM To: WUG; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat-5 Tracer Have a network closet with 16 port switch. Drops go all over building. Want to label each one in the closet as to where it goes. Is there any easy way to trace these lines short of taking each one offline? Doubt it but thought I would ask. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
This guy was 23 though.someone email the story to CSI las vegas. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of LaRoy McCann Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. Well I know the mind can do some strange things. A little over a year ago, before my father in law passed away, we got a call from the police that they had found him walking down the street in nothing but his underwear and under shirt and bare footed. It was a cold winter night. He suffered from deminita or alzheimers. On 3/17/2011 11:09 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Yea, right, a guy climbed 1,000' in his undies and a T-shirt, in the cold of Michigan. Something doesn't add up. I guess he could undress once he got to the top, but the story doesn't add up. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped from the sky? They didn't said he was tied down or anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. LOL, isn't that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the tower because he suffered from a mental disorder. lol - dont we all?!?! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the DTISP MailScanner http://www.dtisp.com/ , and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped from the sky? They didn't said he was tied down or anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. LOL, isn't that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the tower because he suffered from a mental disorder. lol - dont we all?!?! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik Mesh
Anyone know of any good documentation for mikrotik mesh network. I'm creating mesh network for a park here and they want wifi throughout the park. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google chrome notebooks.
I signed up for it months ago but haven’t received it or anything else. Did you put anything special in your application? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of support Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google chrome notebooks. I got mine already they are Awesome! On 2/14/2011 3:48 PM, wphipp...@gmail.com wrote: Just to let you know, Google are giving away chrome notebooks for testing. https://services.google.com/fb/forms/cr48advanced/ Best wishes, Will Sent from my HTC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G.
Unlimited Plan $69.99 per month The unlimited broadband account is a no contract service that allows for nationwide coverage without a specific cap on the amount of data transfer used for $69.99/month. Usage over 50 gigabytes in one month will alert our investigative team. I mean really, how to contradict yourself all in the span of a paragraph. You can use your gun here at this firing range but if we hear gunfire we're going to have to hold you in custody for illegal use of that weapon your using From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Access to sell 3G and 4G. MVNO relationships or talk to an MVNO. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: I found out the company that resells Verizon access from my post last night repeated below. It is http://www.millenicom.com/ . I have in close proximity to my area a http://www.broadband wireless.com/ and another provider I have forgot the name of...They both provide wireless data internet through cell phone data plans on 3G and 4G. They both advertise it as unlimited, but if you read into it, it is not unlimited. My question is, how or how can us WISP get access to sell a 3G or 4G plan on Sprint or Verizon as these plan's have been sold to other companies? I will get the Verizon company with unlimited access as soon as I can return back to the office. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic
We're blocking DHCP traffic on mikrotik client units. We've found a rogue dhcp that I've talked about the last couple weeks in a few threads. I found the unit. We're blocking the 67 port like we're suppose to but unit are still attempting to connect to the DHCP behind it. Should I be blocking 67 and 68 to alleviate this? The clients need to get an IP with the tower dhcp server but I don't want people's routers giving out responses. The counters are going up but im still seeing the 192.168.1.1 IP on the ARP table and the only units on the tower having a problem is these 320 units but it's the rogue server behind one of these mikrotiks. Irritating. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic
We already have a script to drop on all our client units. Just not sure why this one is answer DHCP queries to these 365s. I'm watching the counters go up as we type. I keep doing captures but these units still won't get an IP address. All the other sectors are fine but these 365 units (pmp320)keep freaking out about it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:04 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blocking DHCP traffic Although it's a bit of work to get setup, and it helps to have scripts and automated provisioning to keep everything organized, we haven't had any problems with rouge DHCP since implementing it... http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/2009-November/001178.html Josh, did you end up implementing something like this yourself? -Kristian On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 14:44 -0500, Andy Trimmell wrote: We’re blocking DHCP traffic on mikrotik client units. We’ve found a rogue dhcp that I’ve talked about the last couple weeks in a few threads. I found the unit. We’re blocking the 67 port like we’re suppose to but unit are still attempting to connect to the DHCP behind it. Should I be blocking 67 and 68 to alleviate this? The clients need to get an IP with the tower dhcp server but I don’t want people’s routers giving out responses. The counters are going up but im still seeing the 192.168.1.1 IP on the ARP table and the only units on the tower having a problem is these 320 units but it’s the rogue server behind one of these mikrotiks. Irritating. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a newlow-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at theAnimal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah
Looks like we'll be purchasing one of these next week. We'll let you know how it holds up. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a newlow-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at theAnimal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah Nice to see products like this developing and being made available, but it still misses the mark by not including SFP ports. Also, the GigE port count is far too few. Six? Need more like 24 or 48 ports! grin USB ports are great to see on this router! Good job there and what IMO should be mandatory on all HUB site or core based routers. Best, Brad From: announcements-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:announcements-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:55 AM To: announceme...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Announcements] Baltic Networks introduced a new low-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at the Animal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah Baltic Networks introduced a new low-cost 6 Port Gigabit Router Powered by MikroTik at the Animal Farm Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah January 14, 2011 Aurora, Illinois - Baltic Networks introduced MaxxWave RouterMaxx 1106(tm), a new low cost 6-port Gigabit Router powered by Intel(r) newest technology, the Core(tm)2 Quad/, the Core(tm)2 Duo Processor at the Animal Farm Expo. RouterMaxx 1106(tm) runs on the MikroTik RouterOS platform and by combining it with the latest Intel technology, it is the next-generation commercial-grade gigabit router. Based on the latest Intel 82574L Gigabit Chipset and utilizing 6 independent Intel gigabit controllers and a multi-core CPU, it's possible to achieve over 200,000pps. The product provides performance up to 3 times faster than MikroTik's flagship product, the RB/1100. RouterMaxx 1106(tm) competes directly with MikroTik RB/1100, Cisco and LinkTech PowerRouter(tm). Brian Vargyas, Managing Director at Baltic Networks, said: We felt that there was a need to bring in the next generation gigabit router to the market, given that the existing products on the market are all based on the technology that is either out of date or not providing enough port power for commercial-grade applications. Teaming up with MikroTik and MaxxWave, this next product represents a further step ahead in Baltic Networks' strategy, aimed at providing low-cost and ready-to-deploy solutions. RouterMaxx 6(tm) Features: - Fanless Desktop Size - 1U Rackmount Bracket Optional - Runs RouterOS V5+ - Level 4 RouterOS license included - 1.6Ghz Dual Core Intel Atom Processor - 6 Intel 82574L / 82583V Gigabit controllers (Supports Jumbo Frames) - 1 GB DDR2 800 RAM - 1 mPCI-E internal slot for expansion (3G/4G Wireless Cards) - 2 GB Flash - 2 USB 2.0 Ports - 1 RJ45 Console Port (Includes RJ45 to DB9 Console Cable) - 1 2.5 Open HDD Spaces -- Includes SATA Cables - Use for Web Proxy Cache - MTBF over 100,000 Hours - Low power consumption of 15Watts (+2 Watts per port running) Power: 100-240Vac, .5-3A, 50/60Hz (12Vdc 5A Max) Tested Operational Temperature: -20C to 70C Dimensions: 1.4H x 7.4W x 5.7D Weight: 2.6lb About Baltic Networks Baltic Networks offers a complete line of products and design solutions for broadband wireless and mobile internet. We are an authorized distributor of MikroTik(tm), Ubiquiti Networks(tm) , SAF Tehnika, Tranzeo Wireless, MaxxWave, RF Elements, and MTI Wireless Edge, and Ruckus Wireless products including routers, antennas and embedded solutions for hotspots, VoIP and sensor networks. Configuration, support and network engineering services by Certified MikroTik Specialists(tm) are available for all products that we sell. As consultants, we offer a full spectrum of network engineering services, with in-depth expertise for hotspot design and deployment. Our mission is to provide low-cost and high-value networking solutions to help make our clients' business competitive without sacrificing reliability. For more information about Baltic Networks, visit: http://www.balticnetworks.com 2380A Prospect Drive Aurora, IL 60502 USA Tel. 888.929.3610 (Toll Free) Tel. 630.929.3610 (International) www.balticnetworks.com http://www.balticnetworks.com Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
[WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505
We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and everything.. I get authentication failed - radius timeout Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505
It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for the CPEs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505 Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just authenticating from the MAC access list? Andy Trimmell wrote: We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and everything.. I get authentication failed - radius timeout Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505
Correction. There's no mac address list. We authenticate through IAS. Run-on sentence for the win. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505 It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for the CPEs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Pat O'Connor Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505 Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just authenticating from the MAC access list? Andy Trimmell wrote: We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and everything.. I get authentication failed - radius timeout Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505
Why would it work with all the 700 customers and not for this customer with this router? Is it the handshake? He has 3 choices for authentication and he's tried all of them except for PAP because we don't allow PAP. PAP / CHAP / MSCHAP IAS responds with event log entry Reason-Code = 3 Reason = The Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) request was not properly formatted. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505 Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you using? On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and everything.. I get authentication failed - radius timeout Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505
Mikrotik concentrators -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505 Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you using? On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and everything.. I get authentication failed - radius timeout Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!
It's kinda the same way here in America when you hit a east coastal town down south. After a hurricane they don't even remove the old they just wrap it around bundle it up and duct tape it to the pole. I took some pictures of it down in florida when I went to destin a couple years ago. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:18 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires! Looks like Marlon doing DSL ! LOL! On 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
Great thing about ESXi is that its footprint is so small. It uses like 300k of memory and you can run it from a USB thumbdrive and all the storage is simply virtual machines. EUREKA! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a dollar forty? On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to me. People complain about the price of our software which does a ton of stuff at less than $1/month/sub. Cameron On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Great stuff...can't say enough good about VMware and their support. Dell support has been fantastic too. I think Redhat uses KVM? http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/ Imagine it will work its way into CentOS soon. How does it compare to VMware? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email hosting
We've been using @Mail for quite some time. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting We're using Courier Mail. www.tallon.com handles the servers for us. We've had very little trouble with it. I'm thinking of tucows though. Just not sure if I can justify the increase in costs vs. what my in-house costs are. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark Nash mailto:markl...@uwol.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting We used to use Squirrel Mail and I though it was unprofessional. The Everyone.Net web interface is very good. It looks alot like Roundcube... - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga mailto:mar...@dcaccess.net To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email hosting I think Horde has definitely gotten better. I'll check out the others. martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/64 096486706?ref=ts or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess On 9/21/2010 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I used to use Horde and my users and I tend to agree..the Interface is hard to use. Roundcube is prettier and seemed to work for the short while we had it and Squirrel Mail was my users' favorite. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net mailto:mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: We use Horde for our webmail client. It's fairly user friendly and easy to use. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter On 9/21/2010 12:44 PM, Justin Mann wrote: What user email client are you using? Are your users happy with it? We are considering hosting email ourselves, as we used to, but we need an email client that is a little more full-featured and less clunky than the older web clients we were used to. On 09/21/2010 09:41 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: We run ours on in-house, on a cluster of on Centos Servers But if I had to out-source, I would consider Tucows email service before Google. Tucows service tend to be more suited for ISP/NSP's and they don't market to yours and our customers. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/21/2010 12:23 PM, Justin Mann wrote: Hello, We are currently using Everyone.net 3rd-party email hosting provider for about 60 domains and 1000 email accounts. We are very displeased with their service and have decided to make a change. Last time it was a bit of a shot in the dark, this time we would like to make a choice we can stick with for a long time. What 3rd-party providers have been successful for you, in the 1000+ user range? Responsive support is
Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK
Meaning we can walk out and cut it with a special tool in about 30 secs.thats what they mean...ya that's it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of support Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service around Bristow, OK ROFL On 10/12/2010 1:13 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:57 -0500, Blake Bowers wrote: Depending on where in Bristow, John at http://www.onalot.com/ LOL. From their FAQ: In addition to our Firewall protection, we use WEP encryption on all our radio links. WEP = Wired Equivalency Protocol, meaning it is considered to be as secure as a direct copper wire link. WEP encryption is a coded algorithm that twists all data by a factor of 26 to the 16th power to make it un-decipherable to anyone else. Many government agencies and other high security interests use this same encryption technique - it was developed to be especially secure. Ok..maybe it's just their web page that needs to be updated, or perhaps they are really certain that WEP is as secure as a direct copper wire. -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out
Did anyone call and get a price on one yet? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out Let's all chip in and buy 5, regionally. - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: [WISPA] Check this Trencher out http://www.lineward.com/products.html -- Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc
We have 3 plans in each of our categories, Residential/Business. Also, we have a customer on 768kbps $30/mo and downloading 40-50gb in a month... Thresholds: Residential $30 20gb $40 40gb $50 60gb Business $50 40gb $70 80gb $100 120gb $5/Gb after their allotment but never exceeding $150 in overages in one month. We do send an email at %75 of their allotment to give them a chance to go up to the next package. We also waive their first time going over if they act oblivious to downloads. A lot of people don't understand how Netflix and services like that work. We've heard it all! Well we didn't know since we weren't saving it that it counted against us! What we're doing is putting overage charges into a pot for build-outs only. However we have found that this 1% of customers that are causing the problems in the network, downloading 24/7, have slowed their roll. Our most abusive customer we just repossessed the unit after their bill hit the $150 overage charge plus $40 subscription fee in one month and never paid the bill 2 months before that. The most abusive customers will either pay their bills or get disconnected. Either way is a win-win for everyone, us and the customers. No more constant pull on that tower or those kind of customers pay for upgrades on the tower. At that point I'd rather just get rid of those kinds of customers because the most abusive don't ever pay their bills anyways. We do have one customer that is a big Hulu fan and just moved to the $100 business package because his overage charges hit $150 2 months in a row on the $50 60gb package. He won't stop watching Hulu and always pays his bill. Andy Trimmell PDSWireless Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 3:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc Even at 56Kbps, if a client was using all of their bandwidth 24/7 they could do ~15GB in a 30 day month. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Marlon, Out of curiosity, do you know your total capacity available to each of your subs? Can they ALL actually get 10gigs/month if they ALL tried to do it? To be honest, I have not taken the time to figure out this number for my network which is part of the reason I shy away from going to by the bit pricing even though I've been a long proponent of it. -RickG On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc I have a few questions for those of you who sell bandwidth by the byte: 1. What is the threshold you use, ie, 3Gb in 30 days, or do you have different packages? 10 gigs per month for wireless. 20 gigs for fiber customers. Business users that pay more get more. However, the ones that insist on allowing radio on the computers etc. usually end up paying even more yet. We try to set a level above what they use in a normal month then cut them a little bit of a break on the normal billing amount. 2. Is this total bytes in out or just in? Total. Combined. WE pay for it both ways. 3. What do you charge for overages? $5 per gig. If they go over by more than 10 gigs we'll normally work to cut them some kind of a break. Again, the expectation is that it's got to more than pay for the additional costs. Don't forget the costs of AP wide slowdowns for everyone else. If that starts to happen and you loose the easy customers you have to add ap's to the tower. That costs both money AND spectrum. We've started an overbuild with additional bands for our heavy sites. We charge more for the install and the service, but that gives the gamers/high end customers someplace to go. AND we make SURE that service from that system is the BEST in the area we're in. 4. Have you considered just throttling back customers like the satellite guys do? Yeah. But there is no money in that. It's also not what our service is based upon. Our service runs as fast as we can make it go. Up to 10 mbps in both directions for as little as $35 per month. Those who pay more are paying for reliability not speed. The other thing to think about is human nature. People do what people do. To them, by and large, if they want to download a 100 meg windows update they will do it no matter what. If they want a 700meg WOW demo, they'll go get it. If you slow them down they'll use the system much longer. So instead of getting them on and off the air in, oh say 10 minutes, they might be there for 2 hours. The chances of another high capacity project happening on the network go up a LOT when the users are on the air for a longer period of time
[WISPA] Net Neutrality, RIP
http://government.zdnet.com/?p=8277page=3tag=col1;post-8277 Andy Trimmell - Network Administrator Precision Data Solutions, LLC atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 http://www.pdswireless.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?
Where ya located Gino? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:13 AM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ? Hello, Anyone with a Mikrotik router available to do some remote BW tests? 20 Mbps Max needed! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ?
IF you haven't found anyone hit me offlist. We can get started. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ? PR Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ? Where ya located Gino? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:13 AM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Public Mikrotik for BW test ? Hello, Anyone with a Mikrotik router available to do some remote BW tests? 20 Mbps Max needed! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish
Does anyone know of a distributor for Rocket M2 Dish? The part number is in the manual but I've yet to find anyone that has any. Any information would help. Andy Trimmell - Network Administrator Precision Data Solutions, LLC atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 http://www.pdswireless.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish
Ya we just put up a M5 yesterday and lovin' it. Just wanted a chance to use 2.4 in some areas where 5ghz was overused. I got some screenshots of 80Mbps at 9 miles using the Ubnt M5 dish, if anyone is interested. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Dish Andy, They aren't available yet, they haven't even released specs on this that I'm aware of, just the 5 ghz versions. Regards Michael Baird Does anyone know of a distributor for Rocket M2 Dish? The part number is in the manual but I've yet to find anyone that has any. Any information would help. Andy Trimmell - Network Administrator Precision Data Solutions, LLC atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 http://www.pdswireless.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: isGoogle our next competitor?
It was a funny April Fools joke 3 years ago too :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google to run small ISPs out of business? WAS: isGoogle our next competitor? That is almost 3 years old, and I still have not received my installation kit. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: It is official Google has already started ! As shown on the official Google TISP website: Sick of paying for broadband that you have to, well, pay for? Introducing Google TiSP (BETA), our new FREE in-home wireless broadband service. Sign up today and we'll send you your TiSP self- installation kit, which includes setup guide, fiber-optic cable, spindle, wireless router and installation CD. http://www.google.com/tisp/ One thing I will say - they sure have a sense of humor ! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing
There's a difference between unlimited use and unlimited downloading. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:13 PM To: motor...@afmug.com Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top 3% heaviest users and give them the boot. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, While watching TV today, I noticed several adds for both Verizon and ATT now offering UNLIMITED voice service for $69 per line. We also have a regional cell provider (Syringa Wireless) that is doing $75 UNLIMITED everything (voice, texts, internet) per line. It would seem all the cell carriers are moving to an unlimited system... Travis Microserv - Official List of the Animal Farm Motorola Users Group - afmug.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mcallen, TX
Anyone cover Mcallen, TX? We have a customer that is there for a month or so in an RV park there and having some issues getting service. Anyone? Andy Trimmell PDSWireless atrimm...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!
If anyone knows a WISP that needs anything in Haiti please post it to the list. I'm sure there's at least one. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now! On 1/14/2010 11:16 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: 2010/1/14 RickGrgunder...@gmail.com: You guys are the best for doing this but be careful who and where you send money. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scam artist that will take advantage of situations like this. Yes, I would avoid the missionary groups. Doctors Without Borders is legit, and the Red Cross is always a fairly safe bet. Your Red Cross dollars could end up in the dump! I wouldn't give the red cross time of day after what we seen on the gulf after Katrina. One of the shelters had 300 people in it with 1 payphone (Mac can verify this). We packed a truck up from Radio Response and sent a crew to the shelter to install a link, 10 PCs, and 10 VoIP phones. They refused to let us install the free service for the people and told us the single pay phone was good enough! It's tough to walk away from lost crying babies because of bureaucratic BS! There were about 30 trucks full of food and supplies in a parking lot near our camp waiting for Red Cross paperwork to distribute it to the people. After over a week in the lot the drivers rather than let the stuff rot (running out of fuel for refer trucks) opened the trucks and let us come in with rental trucks (rented by Jeffmo out of his pocket) and distribute the supplies. The Red Cross never did show up with the authorization to distribute the supplies and 1 of the drivers was fired when their boss found out they opened their truck. Doctors without boarders are awesome and helped set up the clinic in Algeres (NOLA West Bank). BTW that clinic was still giving free health care last year when we were there. I did some googlen yesterday and didn't have much luck at finding an active wisp in Haiti that I could contact. Anyone know one down there? I will shoot a donation to folks Chris recommended but would also like to help a brother WISP and I'm sure there is one or two down there that need it. Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!
With this new bill he better have healthcare or you'll get penalized! This was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks for the laugh. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! A cat has to eat. No different than the pony rides at the fair. He has to pay his way just like the rest of us, I'm not going to have a communist cat in my house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! I wouldn't let PETA hear about that. Phil On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I've converted my cat to being a mobile hot spot. I used a couple of UBNT Picos, 4 9 volt batteries and changed out the firmware with DD-WRT. Have it all on him like saddle bags. He roams the neighborhood accepting online signups. The range is okay, he only goes about a half a mile to a mile and the signal comes and goes but hey, he's paying his way. We call the service Cat5 but his name is really Steve. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!
Bob Barker said that a lot too. Now Drew Carey is saying it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! Healthcare is cool, not a problem. The vet is much, much cheaper. I go there too as well as the kids. Tried to get the wife to go but she refused once I told her she had to choose what species she wanted to be. (Me and the kids are listed generically as Weasels) Medications are about a tenth the cost, procedures are 40 or 50 bucks, up to 200 no matter what they are. I can get my daughter spayed for 40 bucks, they said. The girl said it's not an option. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! With this new bill he better have healthcare or you'll get penalized! This was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Thanks for the laugh. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! A cat has to eat. No different than the pony rides at the fair. He has to pay his way just like the rest of us, I'm not going to have a communist cat in my house. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] noise floor going up! I wouldn't let PETA hear about that. Phil On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I've converted my cat to being a mobile hot spot. I used a couple of UBNT Picos, 4 9 volt batteries and changed out the firmware with DD-WRT. Have it all on him like saddle bags. He roams the neighborhood accepting online signups. The range is okay, he only goes about a half a mile to a mile and the signal comes and goes but hey, he's paying his way. We call the service Cat5 but his name is really Steve. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers
Laughter just rioted through the office! hahah -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:28 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much like that with the wife. Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down. I took it upon myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his username and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email, changed his password... yada, yada, yada... (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the way) Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was drunk so that she couldn't get on his account. But after all of that I hear... See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it. *sigh* I have to add that they are in their late 60's. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas written on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, With this, you should never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just use it. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500 Is it okay to say Merry Chrismyassmas to a customer who calls you yelling because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password? (Somehow I'm blocking his FaceBook password) Just wondering what my options are Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
Speaking of stimulus http://www.ajc.com/news/biden-to-announce-fiber-243448.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your response reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number. Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the meaning of life, the universe and everything. Just in case you missed that one. Fun fact: there actually is a way to make the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything (what do you get if you multiply six by nine) to equal 42. If you do the math in base-13, 6x9 really is 42. Douglas Adams was as surprised as anyone by this revelation. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning
In some cases 6. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning Use LOW power and really good antennas. Use both polarities etc. How many radios per tower? Basically, when possible, think of a honey comb. Each flat side gets it's on freqency, no two sides that touch each other (including the corners) get the same band. marlon - Original Message - From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] Frequency Planning Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across several towers that are close proximity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Frequency Planning
Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across several towers that are close proximity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance....
[Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but electing to have FiOS instead. You're paying for 2 Internet services, one great and the other not.] Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay twice for another public option. Good analogy. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles
Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a router since we run all of our CPE's in bridge mode. Just not enough processing power to be running other services on them. People don't like the initial $50 to go get a router before we get there but we make it up when they get installed and love the service. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 00:02 -0500, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: That's the only thing that kept me from loosing my insanity. Dumb question: What are you left with if you lose your insanity? :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddatadelivery is here to stay.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalo gId=10551storeId=10151langId=-1productId=8198552921665090966 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddatadelivery is here to stay. I have a Sony Bravia - how does this work? There is no rj45 jack from what I recall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Just throwing this one in there as an FYI as of 2 days ago: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/14/netflix-hitting-internet-capable-sony -bra via-sets-today/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/14/netflix-hitting-inter net-capable-sony-bra%0Avia-sets-today/ Good news for folks who against all odds don't have a home theater Netflix streaming option yet, and yet inexplicably own an internet-connected Sony BRAVIA TV: Netflix just went live. It just takes applying the latest software update and you're in business. BRAVIA owners were promised the update back in July, and let us be the first to point and laugh insensitively at PS3 owners who have use a DVD to get Netflix working on their Cell-powered supermachines. -d On 11/15/09 7:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: That's part of the problem with WiMAX... they're throwing QoS only at a QoS AND bandwidth problem. WiMAX, that is, not necessarily 802.16d. 802.16d over a 15 or 20 MHz channel would be just fine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased datadelivery is here to stay. I've been watching the thread about it with great interest. Partly because I was wondering if anyone was going to try my solution, which is, to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to use these, and have them work fine. Please understand, I'm not talking about a prioritizing scheme, which puts video ahead of surfing, etc. I'm just talking about how we're going to keep up with the future... In 2004 when I started, we used between 1 and and 1.5 gigs of data per customer per month. The last time I measured it, which was a year ago, we were up to more than 7. We're thinking about how we're going to meet the demands of the near future... not managing a shortage of bandwidth delivery. I'm nowhere near as leveraged as some of my competitors in terms of oversubscription, but that's not an excuse. I'm thinking of planning on a future delivery of 4 to 6 meg per customer, oversubscribed to around 4 to 6 to one. What is everyone else planning? - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddatadelivery is here to stay.
Here's a good example. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9672957-1.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increaseddatadelivery is here to stay. I have a Sony Bravia - how does this work? There is no rj45 jack from what I recall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com wrote: Just throwing this one in there as an FYI as of 2 days ago: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/14/netflix-hitting-internet-capable-sony -bra via-sets-today/http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/14/netflix-hitting-inter net-capable-sony-bra%0Avia-sets-today/ Good news for folks who against all odds don't have a home theater Netflix streaming option yet, and yet inexplicably own an internet-connected Sony BRAVIA TV: Netflix just went live. It just takes applying the latest software update and you're in business. BRAVIA owners were promised the update back in July, and let us be the first to point and laugh insensitively at PS3 owners who have use a DVD to get Netflix working on their Cell-powered supermachines. -d On 11/15/09 7:43 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: That's part of the problem with WiMAX... they're throwing QoS only at a QoS AND bandwidth problem. WiMAX, that is, not necessarily 802.16d. 802.16d over a 15 or 20 MHz channel would be just fine. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased datadelivery is here to stay. I've been watching the thread about it with great interest. Partly because I was wondering if anyone was going to try my solution, which is, to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to use these, and have them work fine. Please understand, I'm not talking about a prioritizing scheme, which puts video ahead of surfing, etc. I'm just talking about how we're going to keep up with the future... In 2004 when I started, we used between 1 and and 1.5 gigs of data per customer per month. The last time I measured it, which was a year ago, we were up to more than 7. We're thinking about how we're going to meet the demands of the near future... not managing a shortage of bandwidth delivery. I'm nowhere near as leveraged as some of my competitors in terms of oversubscription, but that's not an excuse. I'm thinking of planning on a future delivery of 4 to 6 meg per customer, oversubscribed to around 4 to 6 to one. What is everyone else planning? - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
