Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

WAIT...

Is it even legal to block IP addresses???
If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias???


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger  wrote:
> Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering 
> with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, but the wireless 
> network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in places, hard to educate 
> people that their using netflix ruins the internet for X number of other 
> customers on that AP... when many other customers on the network can use 
> netfix with no problems.
>
> We do not have an enforced overage policy, but with the increased accounting 
> with our PPPoE changeover, we will be able to enforce soon. I'm not looking 
> forward to those phone calls, but it must be done...
>
> -Paul
>
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:51 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>> Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers that 
>> are abusing the service.
>>
>>
>> If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify what 
>> that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and you're 
>> delivering them. If you sell an "unlimited" service, them's the breaks. If 
>> you bill by usage, just send them their next bill showing all the overages 
>> they incurred, and that probably will be an effective deterrent all by 
>> itself. :)
>>
>> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Bob,

what part of the country are you in? Sadly, when I do work in bedroom
communities... it's just never worth my time. But when I need the
business... ugh.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Robert West  wrote:
> Yep.  In my case, business users are low usage.  It’s the residential that
> will drive me crazy.
>
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> Bob-
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers
>
>
>
> Also I guess when you are saying 100 subs is that mainly 100 residential
> with one or two computers behind the cpe. One of my customers has 20
> computers so I guess it all evens out.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 31, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Robert West 
> wrote:
>
> My thinking has been 10 meg per 100 as a baseline but it really depends on
> the usage in that network.  If there are heavy Netflix or any other HD video
> service, the demand could be double.  Monitoring is the only thing that will
> determine your final ratio.
>
>
>
> Bob-
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>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:11 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers
>
>
>
> Well we do 2x512 and 4x1 and 200 customers use roughly 15 megs.
>
> On Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
> How much bandwidth do you purchase per 100 customers to deliver  2M down and
> 1M up?
>
> From: ~NGL~
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:37 AM
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> To: WISPA General List
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> Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Ratio to Customers
>
>>
>> What ratio of bandwidth per 100 customers is being used to deliver  2M
>> down and 1M up?
>
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[WISPA] sprint 4g reviews?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

hi guys... it's been a while!

So since the whole 3g thing went mega corporate and independents like
me got pushed out, i havent paid much attention to the wireless space
... but has anyone here used sprint's 4g network?

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Re: [WISPA] NTIA Seeks Volunteers to Review Broadband Applications

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Long time no see guys... you on twitter? what's your addresses? lemme know.
im @journik

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Israel
Lopez-LISTS wrote:
> Did you guys hear about this?
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/070909-ntia-seeks-volunteers-to-review.html?page=1
>
> Some people think its scary, but I think if done with enough guidance
> Volunteer Reviewers could cull a lot of crap out of this program
> applications.
>
> -Israel
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[WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team, It's been a while... I'm retiring from the wireless industry so
as a gift, I want to give you a year to year non paid lease to my
flagship website... It gets thousands of clicks a day. AND i'm sure
that with your involvement, it'll get even more...

GOOGLE: wireless internet
my website http://evd o-coverage.com is NOT being used be me at all
anymore and it gets many many visitors.

So, You are welcome to upload what ever index.html page you wish.
NOTE... The one thing I recommend is that you upload a digg.com clone
to that site. That way, you can put a WISPA GOOGLE MAP up at the top
AND get increasing traffic on a daily basis from industry
professionals. You get the picture.

I benefit because while I never charge you a lease fee for that page,
The value of my domain goes up.

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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon, Jerome,

so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission
payout as long as the customer pays?



On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is
> a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking
> them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My
> referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or
> customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service
> as right now i have "spare" bw), both are credits on the next bill.
>
>
>
> On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Marlon, guys,
> > is there an industry standard referral commission?
> > anyone out there service europe?
> > I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come
> > to our site need FIXED not mobile internet
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > How about selling me customers?  I'll provide a coverage map and when
> > > someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us.  We'll try to
> > > sell the account, when we do, we owe you money.  Say $10 or $20.  You get 
> > > to
> > > "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months.  We may not be able to get to them
> > > today, but can with the next expansion.
> > >
> > > You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure
> > > we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance 
> > > rates
> > > that shouldn't be hard to do.
> > >
> > > just a thought.
> > > Marlon
> > > (509) 982-2181
> > > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)    Consulting services
> > > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
> > > 1999!
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> > > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "wispa" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM
> > > Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Team, Marlon, et al,
> > > >
> > > > Need your help to get to next level.
> > > >
> > > > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.
> > > >
> > > > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
> > > > internet service.
> > > >
> > > > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
> > > > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
> > > > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???
> > > >
> > > > blank slate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider
> > > > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
> > > > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
> > > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
> > > > Suite 203
> > > > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
> > > > 206 984 0880
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Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon, guys,
is there an industry standard referral commission?
anyone out there service europe?
I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come
to our site need FIXED not mobile internet



On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about selling me customers?  I'll provide a coverage map and when
> someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us.  We'll try to
> sell the account, when we do, we owe you money.  Say $10 or $20.  You get to
> "own" that referral for 6 to 12 months.  We may not be able to get to them
> today, but can with the next expansion.
>
> You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure
> we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates
> that shouldn't be hard to do.
>
> just a thought.
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "wispa" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
>
>
> > Team, Marlon, et al,
> >
> > Need your help to get to next level.
> >
> > We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.
> >
> > we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
> > internet service.
> >
> > BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
> > recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
> > goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???
> >
> > blank slate.
> >
> > --
> > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider
> > http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html
> > http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com
> > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
> > Suite 203
> > Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
> > 206 984 0880
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[WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team, Marlon, et al,

Need your help to get to next level.

We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet.

we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless
internet service.

BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any
recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver
goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base???

blank slate.

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[WISPA] Consumers Demand ISP with Zero Child Porn Tollerance

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team,

There's an anti child porn movement brewing right now where consumers
are boycotting any isp that doesnt cooperate with the feds. If your
wisp has a zero tollerance policy for child abuse, put yourself on the
map at http://www.child-safe-isp.com hopefully, the good guys will
steal all the business away from the big guys...

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[WISPA] Need Broadband... andrew m zip 22603

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon, et al... we have a caller in VA that needs broadband. anybody
cover that area? ZIP 22603
CONTACT:
andymac
AT
ix.
netcom dot
com


On 2/1/07, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

for those following such stuff.
marlon

- Original Message -
From: New America Foundation
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:28 PM
Subject: New America and Allies Submit FCC Comments Proving Case for Unlicensed 
Access to Unused TV Channels


New America and Allies Submit Comments to FCC Proving Case for Unlicensed 
Access to Unused TV Channels



Yesterday, New America with Media Access Project and allies (NAF, et al.) filed comments in the 
FCC's proceeding to open up the unused channels ("white space") in the prime frequencies 
of the TV band to unlicensed use for broadband and wireless innovation (Docket 04-186).  NAF, et 
al., have filed numerous sets of comments in this proceeding since it was initiated in 2004. The 
proceeding, stalled at the FCC for almost two years, was re-activated in October after the Senate 
Commerce Committee unanimously adopted a bill (reintroduced this month by Sens. John Kerry and 
Gordon Smith) to require the FCC complete the rulemaking and open the "vast wasteland" of 
TV white space for unlicensed, wireless broadband and innovation.



Our new comments authoritatively address two overriding issues:  First, claims 
made by the TV broadcast industry that unlicensed devices operating in unused 
TV channels would interfere with TV reception and other licensed uses of the TV 
band; and second, whether the TV white space spectrum should be exclusively 
licensed instead of unlicensed.



NAF, et al. filed three sets of comments yesterday:



Economic/Legal Comments

We challenge the FCC's re-opening of the issue of whether or not to license the 
TV white space, given its prior decision and an indisputable record in favor of 
an unlicensed approach.  The comments summarize the tremendous and still 
rapidly increasing social and economic benefits of unlicensed spectrum, 
including more affordable and ubiquitous broadband - particularly in rural 
areas - home and enterprise networking, wireless device and service innovation, 
and more.  The comments explain why licensing is both impractical and 
inadvisable in this band. We argue that the interference-avoidance mechanisms 
proposed in the FCC's original 2004 rulemaking are sufficient-along with 
specific technical parameters to be developed by the FCC-to protect licensed TV 
band users. Full comments available at:

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/economic_legal_comments_on_further_notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_for_unlicensed_access_to_tv_white_s



Technical Comments

Our Technical Comments, drafted by NAF technical advisor and prominent former 
FCC engineer Michael Marcus, address further technical issues that have arisen 
since the original 2004 comment period. These technical comments address the 
specific concerns and confusion propagated by the broadcast lobby with respect 
to the interference potential of unlicensed devices.  They summarize the 
results of two engineering studies commissioned by NAF making an irrefutable 
empirical case for why unlicensed devices can both sense TV broadcast signals 
AND avoid causing interference. One of these studies, examining the potential 
for unlicensed devices to use cognitive radio sensing to detect and avoid 
occupied TV channels, was filed as an appendix to the Technical Comments. This 
White Space Sensing Study is available on our website here. Full comments 
available at:

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/technical_comments_on_further_notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_for_unlicensed_access_to_tv_white_spaces



Final Results of University of Kansas TV White Space Interference Study

NAF, et al. also filed the results of an unlicensed device interference study, 
commissioned by NAF and conducted at the University of Kansas IT labs, proving 
irrefutably that portable and low-power unlicensed devices can operate in empty 
TV channels without causing interference with television viewing on other 
channels.  Full comments and study available at:

http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/final_results_of_university_of_kansas_tv_white_space_interference_study



Thanks as always for your time and attention to these important issues.



Best wishes,



Michael Calabrese

Vice President and Director, Wireless Future Program

New America Foundation





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Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon / et al wisp ceo's,

yes. your raw cost per mb is going to skyrocket once your users start
watching iptv over your trunkline. I'm going to be posting compression
and streaming solutions at http://iptv-coverage.com too. so please use
my new site to archive your own findings as well. that way we'll have
a central resource for IPTV related wisp issues. bob kim

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[WISPA] Generating Sales and Leads for Wispa

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Dylan, Marlon,

Thanks for the clarification re wispa.org ownership and data below..
realistically, if i wanted to promote ONLY my website via wispa.org
then, the $10,000 a year is reasonable.

But what i'm proposing is that we promote ALL of the WISPA members for free.

3 step process.
1. Add your wisp to http://map.wireless-internet-access-provider.com
2. Add your company and service menu to http://wimax-coverage.com
3. then link to both websites

google will sniff and spider your new links. then, it will launch US
all - collectively - to page one of "wimax" and "wireless internet"

If you want exposure, you gotta put yourself out where the traffic is
greatest - Google.

"the tree planted by flowing rivers is fed" - solomon  =)

On 12/7/06, Dylan Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sorry, I should have suggested Sponsorship, not vendor membership. At
$10,000/year, Silver Sponsorship would *still* be a bargain for you.


On 12/7/06, Dylan Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, we heard you already. One thread for this discussion is plenty.
>
> The established mechanism for getting your link on the front page of
wispa.org is to become a vendor member. You say you've spent $1200/mo on
Google Ads - I'll give you a lot more credit if you apply that same amount
to a *year* of membership in WISPA, which, by your own claims, will have a
much greater impact on your visibility.
>
>
> On 12/7/06, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Google ads is effective but by FAR the most expensive way to get
> > potential customer traffic.
> >
> > You're better off showing up in the main search results section. If
> > you're interested, lets get to page one of "wimax" and "wireless
> > internet"
> >
> > personally i spent $1200/m on adwords and got about $1200 in profit
> > back. Now, i'm #2 in google for "EVDO" and it increased my traffic and
> > sales by 2500%
> >
>
>
> --
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> Primaverity, LLC



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Re: [WISPA] google ad sence

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon,

generally, in the actual HTML Adsense code, you'll find your account
number and data.

i looked at your page source. it is NOT an adsense search box. you're
not making a penny off anybody that searches from your site.

what other website do you have adsense installed? i'll take a looksee

On 12/8/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK, now if only I could find out what our Google account is set up as!  grin

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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] google ad sence


> Once you get logged into your Google account, all the setup information
> is there.
>
> Travis
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I have had a google search on our site for years.  And an ad sence
>> account almost as long.
>>
>> We've never really done anything with the ad sence and I no longer
>> know the account data.  Anyone know how to find out?  Also, I'm having
>> trouble figuring out how to tap into ad sence for the search box on
>> our home page.
>>
>> thanks for any help,
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] surprising sources for sales leads

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Google ads is effective but by FAR the most expensive way to get
potential customer traffic.

You're better off showing up in the main search results section. If
you're interested, lets get to page one of "wimax" and "wireless
internet"

personally i spent $1200/m on adwords and got about $1200 in profit
back. Now, i'm #2 in google for "EVDO" and it increased my traffic and
sales by 2500%

On 11/21/06, Peter R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Everyone has problems with Execution.
The key is How Bad Do You Want it, What is Your Why?, and a Routine
(schedule).

Thanks for the kind words about the blog. I used to have a monthly
newsletter, but it was easier to do a blog.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Regards,

Peter
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MarketingIDEA guy.com

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>>
>>
>> - Peter
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Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Guys. if you dont mind, I'll just keep posting these leads to wispa. i
get several calls a day asking for fixed wireless and i just tellem to
go to wispa.org

but i can take the extra step and submit their contact info to y'all.

BUT PS. driving traffic to
http://map.wireless-internet-access-provider.com/

is better for me and y'all since currently, i'm the bottleneck in
sending you leads. i'd rather you get the calls directly so i save
time =)

OH WAIT, who owns wispa.org? can we get a link from the homepage to
http://map.wireless-internet-access-provider.com  ?



On 11/29/06, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

lol

I saw it first!

Good luck with them.  Have fun.

- Original Message -
From: "Forbes Mercy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


> Marlon,
>
> HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel we
> are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!
>
> Forbes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
>
>
>
> 509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.
>
> Thanks much!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
>
>
> > team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he wants
> > to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.
> >
> > contact
> > shane c
> > 509 364 3438 x203
> >
> > zip 98619
> >
> > bob kim
> > http://evdo-coverage.com
> > http://iptv-coverage.com
> > http://wimax-coverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Biz Dev Proposal

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

PS... pls post your company info at
http://wimax-coverage.com
if you're going to advertise, make it very factual with no sales language.

that site gets a lot of people looking for wimax / wisp services...
and make sure you add your coverage area to:
http://map.wireless-internet-access-provider.com/

All i want is one banner space for folks needing MOBILE internet and
wispa can have the rest of the bizness
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Re: [WISPA] Biz Dev Proposal

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon, the way google works, you either pay TONS of money (about
$1.50-$4.00 per click) or you get to page 1 of google under a search
term.

I can offer WISPA as a community large numbers of google traffic.

Since I already get tons of traffic to http://wimax-coverage.com i can
send you my the traffic that is NOT right for my biz. (50% need fixed
broadband not wireless)
try googleing "wimax coverage" and "wimax access"

BUT under the biggest traffic terms,
wireless internet (12,000 visitors a day)
wimax (4000 visitors a day)
my websites:
http://evdo-coverage.com
http://wimax-coverage.com are on page TWO. 98% less traffic than page 1.

So... if everybody just made a link from their home page to mine, then
google would bounce the above 2 sites to page 1 and i'd directly flow
all those who need fixed broadband to
http://map.wireless-internet-access-provider.com

As a team, we can accomplish our goals within 2 weeks.


On 12/5/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I like what you are saying Robert.  I'm just not sure how to implement what
you are asking.  I guess I'm not sure what you are asking for.

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----- Original Message -
From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Biz Dev Proposal


> Marlon, Brad, I can send wispa business.
>
> Personally, I'm a google marketing guy. most of our business comes
> from google...
> under a search for "evdo"
>
> according to adwords.google.com traffic estimator,
>
> under the terms,
>
> "wimax"
> and
> "wireless internet"
>
> you'd get 1800 visitors and 19000 visitors respectively. only a
> fraction of these visitors are right for my company. the rest are
> better fits for you wisp owners.
>
> So... help me send biz your way.
> 1. use http://wimax-coverage.com to post news and press releases about
> your company
> include:
> address (people search for city names)
> url to your website
> relevant sales teasers
>
> 2. link to http://evdo-coverage.com using code:
> http://evdo-coverage.com";>wireless internet
>
> we are #11 in google under "wireless internet"
>
> when we hit > #4, our traffic will increase 40X and I'll post a large
> banner for the wisp map where you've already posted your service
> areas... http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/
>
> thoughts?
> questions?
>
>
> On 12/4/06, Brad Belton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This only adds more fuel to the argument that simply placing a multiple
>> on a
>> company isn't where the "smart money" is.
>>
>> Revenue is largely irrelevant.  Profits are King.  Revenue doesn't put
>> kids
>> through school or buy that new car...bottom line profit does.
>>
>> The concept of fixed wireless has long lost its sizzle.  Simply stating
>> you're able to cut out the LEC and reap those dollars yourself doesn't
>> excite like it used to.  Profits, real estate assets, contractual
>> agreements, client base are key deal points in today's market.
>>
>> While I agree WinStar and Teligent didn't do the fixed wireless industry
>> any
>> favors, most of the bridges burned were with building management and not
>> the
>> end user market.  Investor relationships may have also taken a toll, but
>> again the "smart money" isn't going to get all wrapped up in the sizzle.
>> They will be looking for real assets and real earnings.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:55 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Industry failings
>>
>> One the biggest factors holding our industry back is a lack of success
>> on the part of the big poster children. People look at the past failures
>> of WinStar and Teligent and wonder if new entrants can succeed. Many
>> investors are watching FiberTower and NextLink to see if these new
>> poster children can prove the business model.
>>
>> It doesn't really matter that neither FiberTower or NextLink are
>> representative of our industry. What matters i

[WISPA] Biz Dev Proposal

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Marlon, Brad, I can send wispa business.

Personally, I'm a google marketing guy. most of our business comes
from google...
under a search for "evdo"

according to adwords.google.com traffic estimator,

under the terms,

"wimax"
and
"wireless internet"

you'd get 1800 visitors and 19000 visitors respectively. only a
fraction of these visitors are right for my company. the rest are
better fits for you wisp owners.

So... help me send biz your way.
1. use http://wimax-coverage.com to post news and press releases about
your company
include:
address (people search for city names)
url to your website
relevant sales teasers

2. link to http://evdo-coverage.com using code:
http://evdo-coverage.com";>wireless internet

we are #11 in google under "wireless internet"

when we hit > #4, our traffic will increase 40X and I'll post a large
banner for the wisp map where you've already posted your service
areas... http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

thoughts?
questions?


On 12/4/06, Brad Belton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This only adds more fuel to the argument that simply placing a multiple on a
company isn't where the "smart money" is.

Revenue is largely irrelevant.  Profits are King.  Revenue doesn't put kids
through school or buy that new car...bottom line profit does.

The concept of fixed wireless has long lost its sizzle.  Simply stating
you're able to cut out the LEC and reap those dollars yourself doesn't
excite like it used to.  Profits, real estate assets, contractual
agreements, client base are key deal points in today's market.

While I agree WinStar and Teligent didn't do the fixed wireless industry any
favors, most of the bridges burned were with building management and not the
end user market.  Investor relationships may have also taken a toll, but
again the "smart money" isn't going to get all wrapped up in the sizzle.
They will be looking for real assets and real earnings.

Best,


Brad




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Industry failings

One the biggest factors holding our industry back is a lack of success
on the part of the big poster children. People look at the past failures
of WinStar and Teligent and wonder if new entrants can succeed. Many
investors are watching FiberTower and NextLink to see if these new
poster children can prove the business model.

It doesn't really matter that neither FiberTower or NextLink are
representative of our industry. What matters is they are both publicly
traded fixed wireless companies. This means that all fixed wireless
companies are viewed through the lens of these publicly traded companies
since they are the only ones with enough information for people to draw
conclusions on.

If you look at FiberTower's and NextLink's latest numbers you should be
very worried. NextLink is failing and I predict will be out of business
in the not too distant future. FiberTower is much better off than
NextLink, but they are burning cash at an impressive rate. One can
easily predict them running out of cash sometime next year if things
follow a similar trend.

Some of us on this list do more revenue than NextLink, but I doubt that
will matter when they go under. Our valuations will decline in lock step
to any failures by these two companies.

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[WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he wants
to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.

contact
shane c
509 364 3438 x203

zip 98619

bob kim
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[WISPA] Need Products to Sell

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team,

Google Map is done.. thanks for your help...

NEXT...

I want to drive phone calls your way... my site.. .evdo-coverage.com
has room for a couple of new products/services...

BUT we dont have the ability to answer any more calls.. SO... i'd love
your put your products and services AND YOUR PHONE NUMBER on our site
for non competing products... / solutions...

any ideas what you'd want me to push for you? We just gotta make sure
that you can track new sales so we can do a profit share...

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Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

ps... i guess i shoulda quoted the last post... oops!

Disparaging remarks of this nature are dysfunctional. Opinions are like
assholes; everybody has one but nobody wants to hear it. - cw

On 9/20/06, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've got an anal sphincter too!
http://wimax-coverage.com/wimax-access-wireless-internet-service-why.html
two words:
Qual-Comm
=)
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Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

I've got an anal sphincter too!
http://wimax-coverage.com/wimax-access-wireless-internet-service-why.html
two words:
Qual-Comm
=)
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Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map - NEW SERVER NEEDED

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Technically... umm. i dont know.  =)

but i do know that I expect about 200-500 visitors a day AND the map
WILL be in wikipedia under wisp, isp, internet, and other definitions.

it WAS already in there getting tons of traffic but alas.. it started
running s slow... that we had to remove it...

any ideas?


On 9/19/06, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Robert,

What exactly are you needing here?  Bandwidth?  Hardware?

What are the requirements?

Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:

> Gents,
> It's been a while and i realize that this topic may have cooled off a
> bit BUT... it's now MORE Necessary then before...
>
> I've spent months trying to speed up our server with my webmaster but
> NOTHING... so.. i give up... if anybody wants to host the map
> (currently at http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com )... this is
> what i propose:
>
> 1. I will remove ALL data about EVDO or HSDPA
> 2. the map will ONLY be a WISP map.
> 3. the only thing I want to see for my company is
> a) a paragraph about EVDO and Mobile WIMAX saying that it is ONLY for
> mobile users. and it will specifially say that a WISP will deliver
> faster more solid service for fixed locations.
> b) a paragraph about Satellite saying that it is ONLY appropriate as a
> LAST Resort due to latency and inconsistency of service.
>
> I'm planning on moving the site to http://wireless-internet-coverage.com
> so that we can put all WISPA members and my stuff in the highest
> traffic front page possible... All i need to do this is a server that
> is FAST...
> and since mobile internet and fixed broadband wis are totally
> complementary... lets do this...
>
> thoughts???
>
>
>
> On 4/14/06, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
>> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
>> google map for WISPS
>>
>> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
>>
>> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new
>> design... bob kim
>>
>> GOOGLEMAP:
>> 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html
>>
>>
>
>


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[WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map - NEW SERVER NEEDED

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Gents,
It's been a while and i realize that this topic may have cooled off a
bit BUT... it's now MORE Necessary then before...

I've spent months trying to speed up our server with my webmaster but
NOTHING... so.. i give up... if anybody wants to host the map
(currently at http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com )... this is
what i propose:

1. I will remove ALL data about EVDO or HSDPA
2. the map will ONLY be a WISP map.
3. the only thing I want to see for my company is
a) a paragraph about EVDO and Mobile WIMAX saying that it is ONLY for
mobile users. and it will specifially say that a WISP will deliver
faster more solid service for fixed locations.
b) a paragraph about Satellite saying that it is ONLY appropriate as a
LAST Resort due to latency and inconsistency of service.

I'm planning on moving the site to http://wireless-internet-coverage.com
so that we can put all WISPA members and my stuff in the highest
traffic front page possible... All i need to do this is a server that
is FAST...
and since mobile internet and fixed broadband wis are totally
complementary... lets do this...

thoughts???



On 4/14/06, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
google map for WISPS

please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...

thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... bob kim

GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html




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Re: [WISPA] Google Map... How to Add Your Wireless Internet AP

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

We are going to add a admin interface to make corrections and changes
but for now... it's a - goes is.. dont come out system  :o)

On 4/19/06, Jenco Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I accidentally added one where I don't have one.  How can I delete it?


Thanks,

Brad Hagstrom


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Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Patrick, did you ever send me a price list?
cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS... i want pdf product brochures too.. thanks!


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[WISPA] WISP in 74553 OK ?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

anybody have a wisp in OK?
please contact curtis "curdean at yahoo.com"


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Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Patrick, You're in the family... so where can i find a product / pricelist,
2. is it simple enough for the end user to install?
3. range and fall-off curve?
4. legal to use in
a usa
b england
c canada?


On 5/5/06, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Patrick Leary wrote:

>But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the
>one version that no one has...and no one should be clamoring for just
>yet...is unlicensed WiMAX.
>
>
>
I am certainly looking for WiMAX features such as spectral efficiency in
5 Ghz unlicensed gear right now. I don't really care about the standard.

-Matt




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[WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

anybody know of a manufacturer currently SELLING WORKING wimax hardware?

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Re: [WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Rick...

I'm not sure if its the server. I i'm not a IT expert but i think its
just the amount of data... no?

in any case... yes.. i'd love to see it run faster. i'm thinking about
pre filtering... so that all the points dont have to load for EVERY
visit to the site.

thoughts?

On 4/27/06, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm not kidding Robert, I applaud your efforts, but if you want a usable
product, you need to get either a faster server or a faster hosting service.
Adding sites to this is excruciating.  I have plenty of bandwidth on my end
so I would guess the problem is on your end still.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Founding Member of WISPA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

Funny Guys.. really fuy Rick!
any hows... my goal here is to get the public the RIGHT kind of
internet service for their needs...

True MOBILE Broadband Synch / low latency is still years off...

so... Im planning to add a note:
"
for FIXED Wireless Broadband, contact a WISP.
for Mobile Wireless Internet, contact evdo-coverage.com
A WISP can deliver much faster connection speeds than EVDO at wire
line latencies. 3g Such as EVDO and HSDPA are only medium speed on the
download stream and thin band on the uploads."

Can You Guys gimme any speeds to quote???

ps... thanks for the free hosting offer... suuuper cool of you
JohnnyO! will advise

re hover text..:
in Satelite mode.. the hover text is clear.. so i gotta do a
conditional color filter...


Newest Revision
Alpha Version:
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com

On 4/26/06, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol
>
>
>
> On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> > President
> > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> > 260-827-2482 Office
> > 260-307-4000 Cell
> > 260-918-4340 VoIP



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[WISPA] REVISED - Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Funny Guys.. really fuy Rick!
any hows... my goal here is to get the public the RIGHT kind of
internet service for their needs...

True MOBILE Broadband Synch / low latency is still years off...

so... Im planning to add a note:
"
for FIXED Wireless Broadband, contact a WISP.
for Mobile Wireless Internet, contact evdo-coverage.com
A WISP can deliver much faster connection speeds than EVDO at wire
line latencies. 3g Such as EVDO and HSDPA are only medium speed on the
download stream and thin band on the uploads."

Can You Guys gimme any speeds to quote???

ps... thanks for the free hosting offer... suuuper cool of you
JohnnyO! will advise

re hover text..:
in Satelite mode.. the hover text is clear.. so i gotta do a
conditional color filter...


Newest Revision
Alpha Version:
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com

On 4/26/06, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol
>
>
>
> On 4/26/06 11:40 AM, "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Are you hosting this site on an EVDO connection?
> >
> > Rick Harnish
> > President
> > OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> > 260-827-2482 Office
> > 260-307-4000 Cell
> > 260-918-4340 VoIP



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Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

team, i've moved the url to a more reliable server
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/

I will be adding a instructional box stating that for

"FIXED wireless access a reputable WISP is a BETTER choice than EVDO or HSDPA.
For MOBILE internet, 3g is the only solution, do NOT contact any WISP."

agreeable? also.. what SPEEDS do you offer? i really outta put a speed
field in the system.

On 4/20/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fix the link...you need to paste the "et.html" on the end in the browser...
>
> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
> > same here.  Page flashes up for a sec but then goes away to the other
> > "unable" page.
> >
> > JohnnyO wrote:
> >
> >> We do ? This is what I get when I click on the link below you
> >> provided
> >>
> >> We are currently unable to serve your request
> >>
> >> We apologize, but an error occurred and your request could not be
> >> completed.
> >>
> >> This error has been logged. If you have additional information that you
> >> believe may have caused this error please report the problem here.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
> >> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
> >> we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
> >> google map for WISPS
> >>
> >> please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
> >>
> >> thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
> >> bob kim
> >>
> >> GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html
> >>
> >>
> >
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[WISPA] Dual Channel Bonded Wireless Internet System - Closer?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Anybody know how to bond 2 wireless internet channels ... ie.. verizon
+ cingular hsdpa? we're working on getting 240kbps... instead of
120kbps per card / network for a govt client. - bob
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Re: [WISPA] Mobile WiMAX

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Patrick,

What is the current state of WIMAX roll out? I remember a while ago
Nokia backed out saying it was a NON ISSUE for a while...

If you know of any real wimax AP's out there... will you post them at
http://map.wirelessinternetcoverage.com ?

On 4/21/06, Patrick Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since a number of you asked about mobile WiMAX, I thought it might help to
> provide a link to our Web site material on the topic as it relates to our
> progress. Once you click the link, if you go to the bottom, there are a few
> other links, such as to a white paper and another to a presentation.
> Patrick Leary
> AVP Marketing
> Alvarion, Inc.
> o: 650.314.2628
> c: 760.580.0080
> Vonage: 650.641.1243
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[WISPA] Google Map... How to Add Your Wireless Internet AP

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Gentlemen, Adding a point is a bit confusing if you've not used an
interface like this before...

The trick is to...

1. ZOOM INTO YOUR LOCATION of choice
when you are zoomed and CENTERED on the location of your AP...

2. Select WISP in the TOP ROW... and add your url...



On 4/19/06, Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I second that problem……tried every way….every link…and dada….how to get it
> on there escapes me
>
>
>
>
> Chuck Moses
> HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION
> 16922 Airport Blvd # 3
> Mojave CA 93501
> 661 824 3431 office
> 818 406 6818 cell
>
>
> 
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mark Nash
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:17 AM
> To: WISPA General List
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Man I'm not that mentally challenged but I haven't been able to figure out
> how to put my WISP on this map!  Help, please?
>
>
>
> Mark Nash
> Network Engineer
> UnwiredOnline.Net
> 350 Holly Street
> Junction City, OR 97448
> http://www.uwol.net
> 541-998-
> 541-998-5599 fax
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
>
> From: Scott Reed
>
>
> To: WISPA General List
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:02 AM
>
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
>
>
>
>
> How do I change.  I put my WISP Wi-Max, oops, and need to make it WISP.
>
>
> Scott Reed
> Owner
> NewWays
> Wireless Networking
> Network Design, Installation and Administration
> www.nwwnet.net
>
>
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "WISPA General List" , "Dan
> Gilkerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:36:38 -0700
> Subject: [WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
>
> > PS...
> > Unique Visitor Count FYI
> >
> >  Feb 2,240
> >
> >  Mar 6,143
> >
> >  Apr 2,090so far
> >
> > > GOOGLEMAP:
> >
> http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html
> >
> > --
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> > http://evdo-coverage.com
> > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
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[WISPA] STATS: Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

PS...
Unique Visitor Count FYI

  Feb 2,240

  Mar 6,143

  Apr 2,090so far


> GOOGLEMAP:
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Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Ron, Brian

Sorry about my long absence... i've been swamped with trade show season  :o( !!!

but WOW! i love all that data... love it!

Known ISSUES:
1. IE bugs
2. Slow load times
3. Layout design

anything else you want to see changed?

On 4/17/06, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used netscape 7.2
>
> Ron Wallace wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey brian,
>
> Did you use Internet Explorer to work with the Google maps?  mine doesn't
> seem to work properly.
>
> Ron
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 06:26 PM
> >To: 'WISPA General List'
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!
> >
> >Now that was easy.
> >Go check out that cool WISP in the center of Michigan. ;)
> >
> >Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> >
> >>Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
> >>we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
> >>google map for WISPS
> >>
> >>please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...
> >>
> >>thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design...
> bob kim
> >>
GOOGLEMAP:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-access-wimax-evdo-hsdpa-map-set.html
> >>
> >>
> >
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[WISPA] Wisp Wireless Internet Google Map DONE!

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Guys... after a year of fiddling and fumbling...
we now finally have a usable LINKABLE
google map for WISPS

please put your wisp details into the GOOGLEMAP...

thanks for all your feedback... it made about 70% of this new design... bob kim

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[WISPA] Re: Pigtail source?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

try rfindustries
light horse technologies.



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On 1/31/06, Mark Koskenmaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim Patient does get his pigtails from Roger, I believe.   It is also my
> experience that the ones he sells are excellent in all aspects.  Good
> connectors and work excellent at 5.8ghz, with little apparent loss.
>
>
>
> North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
> personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
> sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
> Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
> -
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Jenco Wireless
>   To: WISPA General List
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:28 AM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtail source?
>
>
>   I believe he is correct.  Here is a link: http://jeffcosoho.com.  I hope
> this is Roger Peters, but from this link I get MMCX piggies that are 3-4 dB
> better than any others I have tried.  I also like their Ufl piggies.  They
> are not 3dB better, but they really snap on tight and stay put.
>
>
>   Brad Hagstrom
>   (Jenco Wireless)
>
>
>   On 1/31/06, Kurt Fankhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roger Peters piggys have the best performance as far as I am concerned.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> 114 S. Walnut St.
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> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:07 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Pigtail source?
>
> Hi folks
>
> I need some recommendations for some custom  UFL to N male piggy's.
>
>
> Thanks
> George
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[WISPA] Re: My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

marlon... you just made me hungry  :)

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On 1/30/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just bread down and put Dell rack mount servers in place.
>
> grin
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:57 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] My Towers Need More CPU - suggestions?
>
>
> > Like many folks on this list (I'm guessing), I have a lot of PC-type
> > hardware at tower locations. Right now, it's mostly RouterBoard 230s and
> > WRAPs, but those systems just don't have all that much CPU power, and
> > I'd like to try to improve things. When you start seriously tinkering
> > with traffic shaping, firewalling, and especially some of the advanced
> > filtering you can do with Linux these days, 233MHz just doesn't go as
> > far as it used to.
> >
> > There are all kinds of cheap computers out there, so getting something
> > with more CPU power than those boards (both of which are basically
> > Pentium 233s or so) isn't the problem.
> >
> > The problems are size/space, and that pesky weather.
> >
> > Ideally, I'd like something with at least double the raw horsepower (a
> > P-500 or better), not too much larger than a RouterBoard, and that can
> > handle temperatures from -20 to +120 (Fahrenheit, obviously, and those
> > numbers are the highs and lows from the last couple years, with a bit of
> > breathing room). I'm shooting for "no moving parts," so a fanless system
> > would be ideal.
> >
> > And while it needs to be small, it also needs to have at least two
> > Ethernet ports, and for bonus points, access to a PCI slot (for adding
> > things like miniPCI card adapters).
> >
> > I'd also like a flying car. :D
> >
> > If it existed, a Soekris 5501 would probably fill the bill, but it's
> > been listed as "coming soon" since late 2004. There's also a number of
> > low-end VIA EPIA-based boards that, while a bit larger than I'd really
> > prefer, would probably work. (Eje at wisp-router sells a couple systems
> > that look like they'd do the job.)
> >
> > So, does anyone have any recommendations on specific hardware for
> > something like this? Surely someone else out there has run into the same
> > kind of problems. I suspect my size constraint will be the most
> > difficult, but it's also the most flexible. Reliability is obviously my
> > top concern.
> >
> > David Smith
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[WISPA] Re: 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

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ever notice yagis killing folliage?


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On 1/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yagi's performance like crap w/ snow and ice on them though
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
> > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:42 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi
> >
> > A bit old here  But check out:
> >
> http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/antenna/how_to_pick_the_right_antenna.htm
> > There are radiation pattern examples there.  As a general rule I'd have to
> > say that yagi's are quite a bit better than grids.
> >
> > laters,
> > Marlon
> > (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
> > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> > 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
> > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:09 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi
> >
> >
> > >
> > > PacWireless makes a 900Mhz 18 dbi Parabolic grid antenna.
> > > M2 makes a 900Mhz 17.5 dbi Yagi antenna.
> > >
> > > We had found that 900 was very particular to placement, even a few
> inches
> > > in one direction or the other can make big differences in link quality.
> > > Has anyone used both antenna types for a specific link, to compare the
> > > properties of each of the designs. The thought is whether the wider
> > > surface area of the parabolic antenna would make it better to survive
> > > signal obstruction from swaying trees in forests.  The prabolic is a
> > > monster at 3 ft dia, s othe Yagi would clearly be a better choice for a
> > > roof top chimney install based on cosmetics.  But wondering from a
> > > performance perspective the comparison.
> > >
> > > Tom DeReggi
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[WISPA] wisp wanted in 07302 jersey -from EVDO Coverage

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please contact jonathan
jloor at
topratetech
.com


if anyone can deliver to 07302 thanks! YOU are welcome to contact my
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Re: [WISPA] See ya

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

I agree.. i've been mia for a while.. and dont wanna come back to a
valueable member leaving.. bob

On 9/22/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, if someone got offended, they can grow a spine.  I like your
> opinions whether I agree or not.  Don't you be leaving anything.
>
> Brian
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> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
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> >Sorry to have offended so many of you.You won't see me here anymore.
> >
> >
> >
> >North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
> >personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
> >sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
> >Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
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[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP: NCOWireless.com DONE.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

guys...

i tried adding address info.. and it makes the entry error out...

so when you add your wisps.. at
http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html

make sure you ONLY fill in
1) NAME
2) Description
3) URL (start with http://)
4) USE CURRENT GPS


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[WISPA] GOOGLE MAPS - Will Add POINTS for you...

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Guys... please feel free to send me your addresses...

If you havent already added your points to the database.. i'll do it
for ya... BUT.. i can ONLY do as many as time permits.. so First Come
First Serve... If i dont get to yours.. you can always do it
yourself.. at

https://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html
thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Tom, thanks!...

my goal here is to give a bit and get a LOT...

and so i am fully willing and open to making all wisps comfortable
with the map so that we can ALL get that 40-60k unique visitors PER
DAY.

On 8/30/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> > >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED
> > >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
> > >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs."
> 
> That would be golden. Or similar, that solves the same purpsoe to
> distinquish the appropriateness of each technology to the user's need.
> 
> I'll add a hidden link, I see no risk in that. I'll think about wether It
> makes since to add a visible link. I'm still partial. But I might.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> 
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.
> 
> 
> John, thanks for your positive comments...
> As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE
> People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under "wireless
> internet"
> 
> they are NOT finding what they are looking for
> 
> #1 =
> http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html
> #10=
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm
> 
> Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the
> consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to
> someone on dialup wanting faster speed.
> 
> So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool
> are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing
> to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together...
> happily  :o)
> 
> 
> 
> RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost
> done.. :o)  hang in there... bob
> 
> 
> 
> RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS
> JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few
> point for you and let you know what i did..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting
> > us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have
> > tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I
> > am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a
> > good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy
> > to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to
> > post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to
> > look through archives or old email messages to find the steps.
> > Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically.
> > Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on
> > this beta effort.
> > All the best,
> > John Scrivner
> >
> >
> > Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> >
> > >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
> > >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?
> > >
> > >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important...
> > >
> > >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
> > >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
> > >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.
> > >
> > >2nd.
> > >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
> > >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless
> > >Internet"
> > >
> > >So... IF
> > >
> > >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
> > >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
> > >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
> > >deal.
> > >
> > >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
> > >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet"
> > >text link...
> > >
> > >___
> > >3rd.
> > >
> > >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
> > >need to compete...
> > >
> >

Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - MVN.com

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

John...

Ok.. i've added your WISP to the map.. it works fine ..
if you want to add more points...

1. 
go to http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html
2. Zoom into the place where you want your point
3. fill in the last form at the bottom
4. check USE CURRENT GPS "ON"
5. go to http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
to see your point.

lemme know if i missed anything

On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it would be good to have a way to remove entries for WISPs if we
> wish. I wold encourage a username and password system for this however.
> Not to load you down with work. Just want this to be a success for us all.
> Thanks,
> Scriv
> 
> 
> Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> 
> >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
> >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?
> >
> >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important...
> >
> >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
> >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
> >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.
> >
> >2nd.
> >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
> >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless
> >Internet"
> >
> >So... IF
> >
> >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
> >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
> >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
> >deal.
> >
> >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
> >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet"
> >text link...
> >
> >___
> >3rd.
> >
> >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
> >need to compete...
> >
> >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED
> >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
> >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs."
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL - 3 points.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

John, thanks for your positive comments...
As far as I'm concerned. if you consider the 40,000-50,000 UNIQUE
People PER DAY who look at the top TEN of GOOGLE... under "wireless
internet"

they are NOT finding what they are looking for

#1 =
http://www.internet.com/sections/it.html
#10=
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2115271.stm

Boingo shows up #3 BUT thats just 1 out of TEN listings that shows the
consumer HOW TO GET INTERNET SERVICE... the rest are useless to
someone on dialup wanting faster speed.

So.. there's a HUGE OPPORTUNITY waiting for us.. We just need to pool
are strengths.. and heck.. its important enough to me that i'm willing
to make my fair share of compromises so that we all arrive together...
happily  :o)



RE REMOVE and EDIT.. we are still working on that now.. we're almost
done.. :o)  hang in there... bob



RE ATTEMPTED ADDITION OF POINTS
JOHN, where is your wisp??? lemme see if i can manually add a few
point for you and let you know what i did..




On 8/30/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this all sounds logical to me. I applaud the effort for getting
> us out there on the net. Let me know how I can help the effort. I have
> tried to get my information on there a few times with no success but I
> am willing to keep working it as long as you are. I think it might be a
> good idea for you to have a web page URL for WISPs to go to that is easy
> to remember that tells us exactly, step by step, what we need to do to
> post to your site. Then we can each go there without having to try to
> look through archives or old email messages to find the steps.
> Especially since these steps and instructions have changed periodically.
> Then you can update the page with new information as changes happen on
> this beta effort.
> All the best,
> John Scrivner
> 
> 
> Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> 
> >Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
> >your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?
> >
> >Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important...
> >
> >First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
> >map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
> >sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.
> >
> >2nd.
> >MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
> >our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless
> >Internet"
> >
> >So... IF
> >
> >your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
> >in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
> >can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
> >deal.
> >
> >IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
> >put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet"
> >text link...
> >
> >___
> >3rd.
> >
> >IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
> >need to compete...
> >
> >I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED
> >Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
> >It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs."
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Hurricane? - worse than media says

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Rick,
 
I just got a call from a Federal Law Enforcement agency... cant say who.. BUT... they tell me that the Hurricane has killed hundreds.. NOT 70. there is wide spread looting.. AND prisons are being overthrown by inmates.. 

 
WOW! 
On 8/28/05, Rick Harnish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mac and Johnny O, are you guys far enough inland?  This storm looks to be something else.  Best of wishes to both of you!
  Let us all know what we can do to help.
 
Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Mac, Let me figure out what went wrong.. i have no problem removing
your listings but would you prefer that we corrected the positioning?

Tom.. OK.. i see... Well.. hmmm... 3 points.. #3 is most important... 

First point.. I dont want ANY traffic to leave your site and go to the
map. What i want is for GOOGLE's SPIDERS to see that tons o wisp's
sites are pointing to the WISP MAP.

2nd.
MAP by my estimation.. .we should be getting 45,000 unique visitors to
our GOOGLE MAP - IF we land on page 1 of google. under "wireless
Internet"

So... IF

your site did indeed loose some traffic.. then I'm sure you'd get more
in return.. besides... your listing will ALWAYS be on the map... you
can just REMOVE YOUR LINK TO THE MAP at will.. so its a pretty safe
deal.

IF you really want to prevent any vistors from seeing the link, just
put a blue background gif or jpg behind the html "wireless internet"
text link...

___
3rd. 

IF you wish... since i believe that WISPS and 3g Cellular does NOT
need to compete...

I can put a large qualifier that says, "If you are looking for FIXED
Location Broadband Choose a WISP over EVDO. EVDO is generally slower.
It is better Suited for Mobile Internet Needs."


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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team.. sorry about my long absence... 
i'm back now.. 
Here are the reasons why i believe that linking to ONE website:
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
will be beneficial to all participants.

Tom, ok... why steer them away:...
1. your biz's are geo specific. so.. even if your guests went to the
map... they'd only find you again anyways...
2. If you wish... since we are the original members of this map
project.. i can restrict new wisps to ONLY add their locations IF they
are not competing with your territories.. Personally, my interest is
in mapping regions... NOT creating intraregional competition
3. chances are .. NOBODY will click on the link... just having the
words "wireless internet" is not leading ...

___
As for why these specific terms
"Wireless Internet" = 800,000 people /m search this in google
"wisp" = 50,000 people search for this in google per month.
So, I'd rather opt for the higher traffic front page.
http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion


___
As for WHY NOT burried at bottom of webpage...


ok... this is how google works... (all caps used for italics)
and for your own search marketing.. this is important to know..
remember... google is the NEW Yellow pages..

google ranks websites based on (in this order)
1) link terms -> search query matches
so... if a million websites like to your site as link: RELIABLE ->
http://reliableinter.net

THEN, if someone goes into google and types "RELIABLE" you're website
is likely to come up top ten. under that word... BUT... what you WANT
is to be found under a search for "wireless internet" since you're far
more likely to have a qualified lead this way.

2) Key Word Frequency
So, If you are a wisp, then in plain Html, the word "WISP" needs to be
at about 17% of the total volume of your home page...

3) Key Word Placement
Tom, this addresses your question...
google ranks sites based on NOT ONLY QUANTITY but also,
LOCATION of words... so... a word or a link at the top of the page
will get more "points"
than a link at the bottom.

I can certainly get you Google Stats...
Yahoo stats are self serve and very similar to googles.. so... just
take the number of visitors you see here:
http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion
and multiply by 20X to see how many people would see your website ...
(google gets about 20X more traffic than Yahoo for tech issues)




On 8/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understood it like this.  We all put those words on our site.  Then
> google will rank those words "wireless internet" really high in hits and
> send everyone to the evdo wisp site.  But if all we need is the words,
> like Tom said, can I just bury them in the back where no one will see
> them and go get dsl?/??
> 
> Tom DeReggi wrote:
> 
> > Tell me again why we would want to steer our prospects interested in
> > our service from our website to a website that promotes our competors
> > (as well as ourselves), for the hope that maybe they might come back
> > to our site again afterwards?
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >
> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Robert Kim Wireless Internet
> > Advisor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "wispa" 
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:30 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL
> >
> >
> > OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive
> > traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too...
> >
> > to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map...
> > (Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the
> > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.)
> > ... I want your help ...
> > ... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the
> > site within about 2 months
> >
> > MARKETING PROPOSAL:
> > THREE things:
> >
> > 1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites
> > (or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it
> > is.. see http://linkpopularity.com )
> > as LITTERALLY:
> >
> > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless
> > Internet
> >
> > WHY?
> > Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on
> > WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like
> > "see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google
> > "see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's
> > really 

[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP New Feature: Use Scroll wheel

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
try out your mouse scroll wheel...   :o)

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[WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - Marketing PROPOSAL

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

OK.. so the last email discloses what we've accomplished to drive
traffic to all WISPA.org Members and my company too...

to increase the popularity and GOOGLE traffic of this map...
(Currently.. we have about 200-400 unique people a day who visit the 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map.)
... I want your help ...
... with your colaboration we can drive about 20,000 per day to the
site within about 2 months

MARKETING PROPOSAL:
THREE things:

1. Put a link on the TOP HALF of the home page of any of your websites
(or the most linked to page of your website - to find out which it
is.. see http://linkpopularity.com )
as LITTERALLY:

http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service";>Wireless
Internet

WHY?
Google places website on the top 10 of any search mainly based on
WHICH LINK WORDS are used... so.. if you make the link from words like
"see other wisps here..." to the map,,, then ONLY people who google
"see other wisps here" are likely to find our wisp map.. and who's
really gunna search for "see other wisps here"??? People mainly search
for "wireless internet" or "wireless internet service" So.. that's why
the code above is limited to the words "wireless internet". If you
want, i can provide google search request starts for words like
"wireless internet" vs. "wisp" vs "wireless dsl." I can show how much
traffic is generated on any keyword set. lemme know if you want.

2. If you are a member of any other forum or list.. please add the URL
to your signature. and talk about this map... this will also put up
more sign posts on the internet. and by cooperating, we can get
everyone the lion's share of the traffic found via forums, google, and
word of mouth...

3. I have an open reservation for about $8000 of advertising at
http://engadget.com. I will use all or part of that to promote the
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service map. Main thing is
that with just 2 drops of your participation, we will all end up with
10 gallons of traffic daily.

Looking forward to our mutual greater success...

Let me know what pages you linked from too...
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[WISPA] GOOGLE Maps - FRIDAY Marketing Summary.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team...
Update...
ok... while we are putting the final fixes on the beta... 
I've got the V1.0 WISP Map Team upgrading BETA to V1.0
You'll see login and the ability to UPDATE your entries.

MEANWHILE.. on MARKETING... UPDATE
- Day ONE, we had over 100,000 unique visitors see your map thanks to slashdot.
http://extremetracking.com/open;reloads?login=wifihot (see week 28)
- We are #6 under an MSN search for "wifi hotspot" (popular search)
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=MSNH&srch_type=0&q=wifi+hotspot
- We have a stable 200-400 unique daily visitors now.

Now.. i want to get back up to 100,000 unique visitors a DAY.. 
My Proposal is forth comming... Next email..
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[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team,
 
UPDATE:
Single Point for Wisp is NOT on the plate - we've scrapped the idea .. thx tom.
 
 
NEW FEATURES:
The map is pretty solid.. we CURRENTLY are adding a cool, 
1) SCROLL WHEEL ZOOM feature... so a click will just be a click ...
2) Loggin For self editing...
3) State Filter
 
 
ADDING YOUR WISP:
BUT.. since the ADD URL feature is still Down...
if you want to get yourself on the map now...
http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html
is the admin panel...
i just tested it... it works well.
 
HOW TO ADD YOUR WISP:
1. Make sure that you use the very LAST FORM.2. Check, USE CURRENT GPS ON
3. under category, type, "wisp"
4. align your AP center to the cross hairs - you gotta zoom
5. Enter as much info as you can... the Address fields are now functional
AND adding addresses will help for the state level filter
 
Hit enter. thx.. and please let NON Wispa.org wisps know too... so that is map becomes popular and we all get more traffic
 
_
IF there are some HUGE urgent correction issues.. lemme know what they are.. i will TRY to fit them in.. .. BUT since we will be going V1.0 soon.. your LOGIN/ADMIN feature may be ready for you to self correct.. thanks!

 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Google map UPDATE

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Johnny,
 
no problem... the website is benefiting my company greatly too ... with out your WISP data.. i'd get much less traffic... so its a win win.. the way things work best! thanks! 
On 8/17/05, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Robert - Can't Wait - You're awesome for doing this for us.
 
JohnnyO



-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:02 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Google map UPDATE
team, the ADD A WISP feature is right now being programmed back in.. I'll let you know when it's ready...
 
Show other sites... yes.. We are thinking about showing 1 central point per wisp THEN if the user is interested in seeing more.. the number of points can expand to show all your ap's or footprint centers...
 
looks like things are moving ahead... thanks for your patience too..  
On 8/16/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 

Or a button that says, "Show other sites by this provider".
 
 
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor 


To: WISPA General List ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree
 
Scott.. that makes sense.. i think what we will do is have a button next to the CITY/ZIP filters that say, "SHOW SURROUNDING Wireless Internet Service Providers"
 
that will make sure the map is more useful... thoughts?
 
John, can we do this??? 
On 8/16/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Some are typists, some are clickers.  Clickers don't type.  Not too hard to click on a state, click on a city and be close to home.  Just need to be able to see the WISPs that are in town. 
I realize that you have drop downs for the cities, but as someone mentioned before, if I list my WISP as Richmond, then people in Webster, Williamsburg, Fountain City, Whitewater, Middlebourogh, Boston, Centerville, Mineral Springs, Cambridge City, Penville, Milton, Hagerstown, Greensfork, ... may not find me.  And that is in a 10 to 15 mile circle.  If they click on their town and get a 25 mile map with markers, they found me.  If they put in their own zip, they may not find me. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:23:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > John, see below.. 2 links for you to compare for the Fieldmapping issue... >   >   
> Tom, Scott,, ok.. i see now... yes.. i agree... >   > well... we do have a State/City/Zip filter.. that outta help... so that the user doesnt have to circumnavigate the globe to find ya  :o) >   
> currently our map has this data > http://photos21.flickr.com/34558146_a2c9ca64d4_o.jpg 
> but since the DB ties are not done yet... > http://photos22.flickr.com/34564496_549efc3f13_o.jpg 
>   > is what you'll get till we are done... >   > working on it now.. lemme know what other thoughts you have too >   > On 8/16/05, 
Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Which is what my original post was about as well.  I do not have a problem with how to enter, though I hope I can edit soon.  It is a pain for the potential customer.  I always tell the programmers that have worked for me, "I do not care how hard it is for you, it MUST be easy for the user".  Same here, doesn't have to be super easy for me to get my sites listed, but the potential customer should not have to work to find me. 
> > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > 
www.nwwnet.net > > -- Original Message --- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
> Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:41:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > > > Robert, > >   > > 
You may have misunderstood.  Entering my sites is NOT awkward for me, and I do not mind the proceedure. I am a technical person, intuitive to figure it out, and worth my time to enter once, regardless if awkward, for the advantage of many to open easilly. 
> >   > > My complaint, was for prospects to find my info after it was entered, was awkward for them.  If it is awkward for the porspect, they won't spend the time to locate all the possible cell site locations available to them.  My concern is strictly about improving the ease and accuracy for the prospect to find the data on the map.  That is where improvement

[WISPA] Google map UPDATE

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

team, the ADD A WISP feature is right now being programmed back in.. I'll let you know when it's ready...
 
Show other sites... yes.. We are thinking about showing 1 central point per wisp THEN if the user is interested in seeing more.. the number of points can expand to show all your ap's or footprint centers...
 
looks like things are moving ahead... thanks for your patience too..  
On 8/16/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Or a button that says, "Show other sites by this provider".
 
 
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
 
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
 

To: WISPA General List ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree
 
Scott.. that makes sense.. i think what we will do is have a button next to the CITY/ZIP filters that say, "SHOW SURROUNDING Wireless Internet Service Providers"
 
that will make sure the map is more useful... thoughts?
 
John, can we do this??? 
On 8/16/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Some are typists, some are clickers.  Clickers don't type.  Not too hard to click on a state, click on a city and be close to home.  Just need to be able to see the WISPs that are in town. 
I realize that you have drop downs for the cities, but as someone mentioned before, if I list my WISP as Richmond, then people in Webster, Williamsburg, Fountain City, Whitewater, Middlebourogh, Boston, Centerville, Mineral Springs, Cambridge City, Penville, Milton, Hagerstown, Greensfork, ... may not find me.  And that is in a 10 to 15 mile circle.  If they click on their town and get a 25 mile map with markers, they found me.  If they put in their own zip, they may not find me. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:23:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > John, see below.. 2 links for you to compare for the Fieldmapping issue... >   >   
> Tom, Scott,, ok.. i see now... yes.. i agree... >   > well... we do have a State/City/Zip filter.. that outta help... so that the user doesnt have to circumnavigate the globe to find ya  :o) >   
> currently our map has this data > http://photos21.flickr.com/34558146_a2c9ca64d4_o.jpg 
> but since the DB ties are not done yet... > http://photos22.flickr.com/34564496_549efc3f13_o.jpg 
>   > is what you'll get till we are done... >   > working on it now.. lemme know what other thoughts you have too >   > On 8/16/05, 
Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Which is what my original post was about as well.  I do not have a problem with how to enter, though I hope I can edit soon.  It is a pain for the potential customer.  I always tell the programmers that have worked for me, "I do not care how hard it is for you, it MUST be easy for the user".  Same here, doesn't have to be super easy for me to get my sites listed, but the potential customer should not have to work to find me. 
> > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > 
www.nwwnet.net > > -- Original Message --- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
> Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:41:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > > > Robert, > >   > > 
You may have misunderstood.  Entering my sites is NOT awkward for me, and I do not mind the proceedure. I am a technical person, intuitive to figure it out, and worth my time to enter once, regardless if awkward, for the advantage of many to open easilly. 
> >   > > My complaint, was for prospects to find my info after it was entered, was awkward for them.  If it is awkward for the porspect, they won't spend the time to locate all the possible cell site locations available to them.  My concern is strictly about improving the ease and accuracy for the prospect to find the data on the map.  That is where improvements are needed most. 
> >   > > I agree that your project is comming along well, and I appreciate your contribution. My comments are strictly meant as helpful criticism so it may continue to evolve. 
> >   > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc   
> > - Original Message - > > From: 
Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > > To: WISPA General List
 > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:08 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > > > Tom.. awkward is the right word.. and 

[WISPA] new GOOGLE MAP Ready for Beta Testing

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Team.
 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
 
is ready to be beta tested... 
 
oddly.. it's missing some of the data that comes up in my admin screen at
http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html
 
try them both and let me know if your wisp shows in the ADMIN Screen BUT NOT in the public website:http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/

 
 
 
PS.. reminded.. to use the admin screen...
you'll need to enter the work "WISP" in the blank field and check the box to its left ... then press show 100 points and give it about 20 seconds.. 
 
lemme know.. .awaiting your feedback ...thx-- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.comhttp://wirelessinternetcoverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Scott.. that makes sense.. i think what we will do is have a button next to the CITY/ZIP filters that say, "SHOW SURROUNDING Wireless Internet Service Providers"
 
that will make sure the map is more useful... thoughts?
 
John, can we do this??? 
On 8/16/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some are typists, some are clickers.  Clickers don't type.  Not too hard to click on a state, click on a city and be close to home.  Just need to be able to see the WISPs that are in town. 
I realize that you have drop downs for the cities, but as someone mentioned before, if I list my WISP as Richmond, then people in Webster, Williamsburg, Fountain City, Whitewater, Middlebourogh, Boston, Centerville, Mineral Springs, Cambridge City, Penville, Milton, Hagerstown, Greensfork, ... may not find me.  And that is in a 10 to 15 mile circle.  If they click on their town and get a 25 mile map with markers, they found me.  If they put in their own zip, they may not find me. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message ----------- From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:23:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > John, see below.. 2 links for you to compare for the Fieldmapping issue... >   >   
> Tom, Scott,, ok.. i see now... yes.. i agree... >   > well... we do have a State/City/Zip filter.. that outta help... so that the user doesnt have to circumnavigate the globe to find ya  :o) >   
> currently our map has this data > http://photos21.flickr.com/34558146_a2c9ca64d4_o.jpg
 > but since the DB ties are not done yet... > http://photos22.flickr.com/34564496_549efc3f13_o.jpg
 >   > is what you'll get till we are done... >   > working on it now.. lemme know what other thoughts you have too >   > On 8/16/05, 
Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Which is what my original post was about as well.  I do not have a problem with how to enter, though I hope I can edit soon.  It is a pain for the potential customer.  I always tell the programmers that have worked for me, "I do not care how hard it is for you, it MUST be easy for the user".  Same here, doesn't have to be super easy for me to get my sites listed, but the potential customer should not have to work to find me. 
> > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > 
www.nwwnet.net > > -- Original Message --- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
> Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:41:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > > > Robert, > >   > > 
You may have misunderstood.  Entering my sites is NOT awkward for me, and I do not mind the proceedure. I am a technical person, intuitive to figure it out, and worth my time to enter once, regardless if awkward, for the advantage of many to open easilly. 
> >   > > My complaint, was for prospects to find my info after it was entered, was awkward for them.  If it is awkward for the porspect, they won't spend the time to locate all the possible cell site locations available to them.  My concern is strictly about improving the ease and accuracy for the prospect to find the data on the map.  That is where improvements are needed most. 
> >   > > I agree that your project is comming along well, and I appreciate your contribution. My comments are strictly meant as helpful criticism so it may continue to evolve. 
> >   > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc   
> > - Original Message - > > From: 
Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > > To: WISPA General List
 > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:08 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > > > Tom.. awkward is the right word.. and i do agree.. the good news is that while its not ideal for you to enter your points yet (getting better) your potential clients will have a pretty simple time of it.. but.. .i'm still working on it.. 
> > > > On 8/15/05, Tom DeReggi <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> > I'd like to see autozoom to the state level when you click on the state.  Its difficult to make out the up to 100 sites in the area on the full zoom out national view. If you click on ome of them then when you zoom in it stays homed in on the region. But then none of the other points show up on the maps, until you unclick on the first point.  Its still awkward.  
> >   > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >   
> > - Original Message - > > From: 
Robert K

Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

John, see below.. 2 links for you to compare for the Fieldmapping issue...
 
 
Tom, Scott,, ok.. i see now... yes.. i agree...
 
well... we do have a State/City/Zip filter.. that outta help... so that the user doesnt have to circumnavigate the globe to find ya  :o)
 
currently our map has this data
http://photos21.flickr.com/34558146_a2c9ca64d4_o.jpg
but since the DB ties are not done yet...
http://photos22.flickr.com/34564496_549efc3f13_o.jpg
 
is what you'll get till we are done... 
working on it now.. lemme know what other thoughts you have too 
On 8/16/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which is what my original post was about as well.  I do not have a problem with how to enter, though I hope I can edit soon.  It is a pain for the potential customer.  I always tell the programmers that have worked for me, "I do not care how hard it is for you, it MUST be easy for the user".  Same here, doesn't have to be super easy for me to get my sites listed, but the potential customer should not have to work to find me. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "Tom DeReggi" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
Sent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:41:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree 
> Robert, >   > You may have misunderstood.  Entering my sites is NOT awkward for me, and I do not mind the proceedure. I am a technical person, intuitive to figure it out, and worth my time to enter once, regardless if awkward, for the advantage of many to open easilly.
 >   > My complaint, was for prospects to find my info after it was entered, was awkward for them.  If it is awkward for the porspect, they won't spend the time to locate all the possible cell site locations available to them.  My concern is strictly about improving the ease and accuracy for the prospect to find the data on the map.  That is where improvements are needed most.
 >   > I agree that your project is comming along well, and I appreciate your contribution. My comments are strictly meant as helpful criticism so it may continue to evolve.
 >   > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc   
> - Original Message - > From: 
Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > To: WISPA General List 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:08 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Awkward.. i agree > > Tom.. awkward is the right word.. and i do agree.. the good news is that while its not ideal for you to enter your points yet (getting better) your potential clients will have a pretty simple time of it.. but.. .i'm still working on it.. 
> > On 8/15/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 
> I'd like to see autozoom to the state level when you click on the state.  Its difficult to make out the up to 100 sites in the area on the full zoom out national view. If you click on ome of them then when you zoom in it stays homed in on the region. But then none of the other points show up on the maps, until you unclick on the first point.  Its still awkward.  
>   > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >   
> - Original Message - > From: 
Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor > > To: WISPA General List
 > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY... > >   > Thats a good point. > hmmm... >   > the only problem with populating points by clicking a state.. while it DOES remove that extra filter step... is that XML lookups take some time.. and if you click the wrong state.. it'll take 10 secs to get back to the state you want... 
>   > it may be worth it though... its a trade off... lemme see.. > >   > On 8/15/05, Scott Reed <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Here is your next enhancement.  I am a customer looking for service.  I go to the site, click WISP (I know what I want) and click on my state. I would want to see some indication there are providers there.  Next click, markers, all the way in to the one I want. 
> > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > 
www.nwwnet.net > > > -- Original Message --- > From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: wispa <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:28:05 -0700 
> Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY... > > > oops... sorry... > > heres the url > > 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ > > remember.. just double left click on the map till you get a popup window that lets you add a point.. > > -- > > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor 
> > http://evdo-coverage.com > > 
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com 

Re: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP - down for a few hours..

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Blair.. im sure you;re in the database now... i will have a look... BUT.. we are doing some more changes so right now.. all the contact info is NOT SHOWING... im on it and it will be resolved...
 
Dan... can you tell me if www.wmwisp.net is correctly input into the database???  
On 8/15/05, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I tried to put some of our AP's in there and nothing happened.--Blair DavisWest Michigan Wireless ISP
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[WISPA] Awkward.. i agree

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Tom.. awkward is the right word.. and i do agree.. the good news is that while its not ideal for you to enter your points yet (getting better) your potential clients will have a pretty simple time of it.. but.. .i'm still working on it.. 

On 8/15/05, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'd like to see autozoom to the state level when you click on the state.  Its difficult to make out the up to 100 sites in the area on the full zoom out national view. If you click on ome of them then when you zoom in it stays homed in on the region. But then none of the other points show up on the maps, until you unclick on the first point.  Its still awkward. 

 
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
 

- Original Message ----- 
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
 

To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY...
 
Thats a good point.
hmmm... 
 
the only problem with populating points by clicking a state.. while it DOES remove that extra filter step... is that XML lookups take some time.. and if you click the wrong state.. it'll take 10 secs to get back to the state you want... 

 
it may be worth it though... its a trade off... lemme see.. 
On 8/15/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
Here is your next enhancement.  I am a customer looking for service.  I go to the site, click WISP (I know what I want) and click on my state. I would want to see some indication there are providers there.  Next click, markers, all the way in to the one I want. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 
-- Original Message --- From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wispa <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:28:05 -0700 
Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY... > oops... sorry... > heres the url > 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ > remember.. just double left click on the map till you get a popup window that lets you add a point.. > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor 
> http://evdo-coverage.com > 
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com > http://hsdpa-coverage.com > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 
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Re: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY...

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Thats a good point.
hmmm... 
 
the only problem with populating points by clicking a state.. while it DOES remove that extra filter step... is that XML lookups take some time.. and if you click the wrong state.. it'll take 10 secs to get back to the state you want... 

 
it may be worth it though... its a trade off... lemme see.. 
On 8/15/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here is your next enhancement.  I am a customer looking for service.  I go to the site, click WISP (I know what I want) and click on my state. I would want to see some indication there are providers there.  Next click, markers, all the way in to the one I want. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 
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Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY... > oops... sorry... > heres the url > 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ > remember.. just double left click on the map till you get a popup window that lets you add a point.. > -- > Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor 
> http://evdo-coverage.com > 
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com > http://hsdpa-coverage.com > > 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 
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Re: [WISPA] Google Maps Cleaned Up and BETA RELEASE READY

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

John.. i'm forwarding your request to our programmer... i think your points are NOT showing because we have a 100 point limit.. but not sure.. hang on.. 
On 8/15/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Go to Illinois and click your way down to the intersection of Interstate57 and 64 (Mount Vernon, Illinois). Or you can go to 62864 zip code. I
have followed the steps and my information is not showing up. I put inthe title as "MVN.net". Description was "Mall Tower". The URL for mynetwork is http://www.mvn.net/
. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Myinformation appears to go into the system when I click "Add my WISP" butI can not find it.Thanks,ScrivRobert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> guys... is been a while... sorry it took so long.. BUT i think you'll> really like it.>> ok.. so now.. you can just double click on the map and it will add a> point where you double click...
>> i am working on getting the add a point feature to work via RIGHT> MOUSE click on the map>> BUT.. for now.. its double left click...>> So.. SUMMARY... to add your AP or Service areas...
>> JUST DOUBLE LEFT CLICK on the MAP till you can add a point...>>> lemme know what you think! thanks! bob>> --> Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor> 
http://evdo-coverage.com> http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com> http://hsdpa-coverage.com>> 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101
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Re: [WISPA] Google Maps Cleaned Up and BETA RELEASE READY

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Yes.. there is a way to edit your listings.. BUT...
it requires a login so that NOBODY ELSE can edit your listings   :o)
 
but the login page is in dev so gimme till wednesday... 
 
for now.. just add more points.. .and  you'll be able to delete the ones that dont count... 
On 8/15/05, Mike Bushard Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is their anyway to edit my listing?When I first added them I messed up on the locations and such.
Mike Bushard JrReliable Internet Services1st Rate Computers320-352-7880 Phone320-352-7890 Fax320-980-2678 Cell-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Go to Illinois and click your way down to the intersection of Interstate57 and 64 (Mount Vernon, Illinois). Or you can go to 62864 zip code. Ihave followed the steps and my information is not showing up. I put in
the title as "MVN.net". Description was "Mall Tower". The URL for mynetwork is http://www.mvn.net/. Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Myinformation appears to go into the system when I click "Add my WISP" but
I can not find it.Thanks,ScrivRobert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:> guys... is been a while... sorry it took so long.. BUT i think you'll> really like it.>> ok.. so now.. you can just double click on the map and it will add a
> point where you double click...>> i am working on getting the add a point feature to work via RIGHT> MOUSE click on the map>> BUT.. for now.. its double left click...>
> So.. SUMMARY... to add your AP or Service areas...>> JUST DOUBLE LEFT CLICK on the MAP till you can add a point...>>> lemme know what you think! thanks! bob>> --> Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor
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[WISPA] GOOGLEMAP URL - SORRY...

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

oops... sorry...
heres the url
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
remember.. just double left click on the map till you get a popup window that lets you add a point.. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.com
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[WISPA] Google Maps Cleaned Up and BETA RELEASE READY

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

guys... is been a while... sorry it took so long.. BUT i think you'll really like it.
 
ok.. so now.. you can just double click on the map and it will add a point where you double click...
 
i am working on getting the add a point feature to work via RIGHT MOUSE click on the map
 
BUT.. for now.. its double left click...
 
So.. SUMMARY... to add your AP or Service areas...
 
JUST DOUBLE LEFT CLICK on the MAP till you can add a point... 
 
 
lemme know what you think! thanks! bob-- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.com
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[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - FIXED. - wisp urls link now.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

guys.. just fixed all the urls.. http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
 
 
as a note.. you MUST enter your urls with http://
 
i will probably add that as a default value... but till then.. please keep adding points... i actually had a few people call wisps in the map last week because they needed dsl... 
 
see:
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[WISPA] Wispa GOOGLE Map - Link Broken Issue - start with HTTP://www.

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Guys... oh.. i see what you mean.. well... the problem is simple... 
since i have the page redirecting from a frame... we gotta do a link to target="blank" tag for your url to show... i'm working on that...
 
as far as why some links work and others dont...
 
all urls need to start with HTTP://www.
 
if you DONT start your web address with HTTP://www.
 
the browser tries to link to
http://evdo-coverage.com/www.nwwnet.net
 
I can fix this pretty quik... lemme get to it..-- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Google Map - Map Upgrade

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

team... we are doing a major site upgrade now... so... you're data will be well cared for... and many of the issue you've raised will be resolved in a few days...
 
hang in there... thx 
On 8/3/05, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John... 
 
ok... no prob.. i'll change that top link to wispa.org ... 
John... will you get me your data.. lemme manually enter them...
 
city/state
OR
GPS
 
url:
 
description:
 
 
 
as far as entering your location data on your own...  ...
 
1. Zoom in as close as you can to the spot you want to place a point on...
2. Align it with the crosshairs in the middle of your map window
3. then go to the ADD MY WISP section and fill in all BUT THE ADDRESS info... the address fields are buggy...
then...
to see your points... click on the WISP check box.. and hit the "SHOW 100 POINTS" button... you'll have to do it a couple of times since theres high traffic on the site... we are moving our server to resolve this issue... 

 
when you cant hit the button any more.. then you outta be good ... wait about 20 sec to see all the points show up...
 
did i miss anything???

 
 
On 8/1/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
The top link was the trouble. A link to WISPA would be fine if thissuits you. I still cannot find my data. I am not bitching on that issue 
though. I just wanted you to know I had issues with that top link morethan anything. I will try to input my data again.Regards,John ScrivnerRobert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:> John, gmorn.. well if we are on the same page... 
> http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/>> the link to each wisp is in the popup bubble of each wisp... these
> links will allways go to the wisp directly.. for tracking.. i may > build in a step over page... but will always link directly to the> individual wisp.>> As far as a link to WISPA... the direct link to the 
WISPA.org site is> the 4th checkbox...> > boingo links to boingo> iproamer goes to iproamer> evdo goes to my site> and wisp goes to wispa...>> is this what you're asking??
>> oh... wait... are you talking about the TOP LINK??? where it says.. > WISP and WIRELESS INTERNET??? no prob... lemme link to wispa.org...> unless you want the link to go elsewhere... lemme know...
>>> On 8/1/05, *John Scrivner* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>> Hey Robert. When I click on your top link for Wireless Internet> coverage> all I get is a sales ad for EVDO. What gives? I put my company> information into the database. Search for Mt. Vernon, IL. 62864
> and see>     if you get anything different. If this is not going to link to > data for> WISPs then we have a problem.> Thanks,> Scriv>>> Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
>> > *Guys... thanks for filling in > > http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/*
> > *its really starting to fill up now... *> > **> > *by the way.. keep going.. * > > **> > *i want a lot more wisps as i still get folks that dont think to
> call> > wisps... BELOW... i have a transcript from a gentleman who needs a> > wisp in his home area... if you can service that area.. pleaes call > > him directly... *
> > **> > *see transcript below...*> >> > *[Visitor]* I am moving to Acampo and need Internet access> > *[Visitor]* There are no Wire services available 
> > *[Visitor]* I need wireless> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* hi> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* what is your zip?> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent] * new zip? 
> > *[Visitor]* 95220> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* ok... hang on...> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* looking you up...> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent] * well.. looks 
> like the> > best we can do is $110 k> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* oops.> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* 110k> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* :o) 
> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* and itll still> cost 79/m> > *[Visitor]* Do you know when VZW will have evdo there?> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* well.. you'd still be 
> > in the same boat> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* cingular is at> 160kbps> > *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* vzw is at 120k> > *[Visitor]* ohh 
> > *[Visitor]* What about Sprint> >

Re: [WISPA] Google Map - EDITING your own points...

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

Dan, can you check out the NWWNET.NET entry of the WISP list??? the link doesnt link. also... we need some data cleaning as there are many eroneous points that need some moving or deleting... How's the editing wizard coming along?

 
Scott... hi.. as far as editing your locations.. i am working on an interface for that... likely... what i will do is just give wispa members a temp pass word directly into our database.. or something simple so you can edit your entries... or we'll do it for you...

 
I'd edit the nwwnet.net issue right now.. BUT we dont have a way to search or sort our database yet!!! argh... well we dooo... but it takes for ever so we are creating a quick find wizard... 

 
so for edits... hang on... we're even creating a login section so that you can add and delete points at will... on your own... 
On 8/1/05, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think the key is, and this was totally an accident on my part.  I used the "Map GEO Position" with the coordinates of my tower to see if there was anything nearby.  Then I put in my information. 
After 2 hours, I wouldn't put in much time, but you might give it 2 more minutes with this one and see what happens. What bothers me now is that I can not change my listing and my URL doesn't work.  Makes me look bad when it isn't my fault. 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
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From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:50:34 -0500 
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Google Map filling in nicely. + New Prospect 4 WISP in95220 > Yeah, those are 
me, I have given up on trying to get this thing to work.  I have totally wasted at least two hours of my time trying to figure out the poor documentation on this site.  Maybe you can help Robert with the instructions as I see that you have successfully accomplished getting your sites up.
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Rick Harnish > 
President > 
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
 > 260-827-2482 Office
 > 260-307-4000 Cell
 > 260-918-4340 VoIP
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www.oibw.net > 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Reed > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 11:34 AM > 
To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Map filling in nicely. + New Prospect 4 WISP in95220 >   > That is not found error, not area. > > Also, when I search by state, IN, I see one in TX and one in Central Canada.  > > Scott Reed > Owner 
> NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > www.nwwnet.net
 > > -- Original Message --- > From: "Scott Reed" <
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wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:32:37 -0500 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Map filling in nicely. + New Prospect 4 WISP in 95220 
> > > I click on the link for my WISP, www.nwwnet.net, and get a page not found area. NewWays is the one in East Central Indiana. 
> > > > Scott Reed > > Owner > > NewWays > > Wireless Networking > > Network Design, Installation and Administration > > 
www.nwwnet.net > > > > -- Original Message --- > > From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor <
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wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 08:24:05 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Map filling in nicely. + New Prospect 4 WISP in 95220 
> > > > > John, gmorn.. well if we are on the same page... > > > 
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/ > > > > > > the link to each wisp is in the popup bubble of each wisp... these links will allways go to the wisp directly.. for tracking.. i may build in a step over page... but will always link directly to the individual wisp. 
> > > > > > As far as a link to WISPA... the direct link to the WISPA.org site is the 4th checkbox... > > > > > > boingo links to boingo > > > iproamer goes to iproamer 
> > > evdo goes to my site > > > and wisp goes to wispa... > > > > > > is this what you're asking?? > > > > > > oh... wait... are you talking about the TOP LINK??? where it says.. WISP and WIRELESS INTERNET??? no prob... lemme link to 
wispa.org... unless you want the link to go elsewhere... lemme know... > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/05, John Scrivner <
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Re: [WISPA] Google Map filling in nicely. + New Prospect 4 WISP in 95220

[Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor]

John, gmorn.. well if we are on the same page...
http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/
 
the link to each wisp is in the popup bubble of each wisp... these links will allways go to the wisp directly.. for tracking.. i may build in a step over page... but will always link directly to the individual wisp.

 
As far as a link to WISPA... the direct link to the WISPA.org site is the 4th checkbox...
 
boingo links to boingo
iproamer goes to iproamer
evdo goes to my site
and wisp goes to wispa...
 
is this what you're asking??
 
oh... wait... are you talking about the TOP LINK??? where it says.. WISP and WIRELESS INTERNET??? no prob... lemme link to wispa.org... unless you want the link to go elsewhere... lemme know... 
On 8/1/05, John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Robert. When I click on your top link for Wireless Internet coverageall I get is a sales ad for EVDO. What gives? I put my company
information into the database. Search for Mt. Vernon, IL. 62864 and seeif you get anything different. If this is not going to link to data forWISPs then we have a problem.Thanks,ScrivRobert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
> *Guys... thanks for filling in> http://evdo-coverage.com/wireless-internet-service/*> *its really starting to fill up now... *
> **> *by the way.. keep going.. *> **> *i want a lot more wisps as i still get folks that dont think to call> wisps... BELOW... i have a transcript from a gentleman who needs a> wisp in his home area... if you can service that area.. pleaes call
> him directly... *> **> *see transcript below...*>> *[Visitor]* I am moving to Acampo and need Internet access> *[Visitor]* There are no Wire services available> *[Visitor]* I need wireless
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* hi> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* what is your zip?> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent] * new zip?> *[Visitor]* 95220
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* ok... hang on...> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* looking you up...> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent] * well.. looks like the
> best we can do is $110 k> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* oops.> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* 110k> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* :o)> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* and itll still cost 79/m
> *[Visitor]* Do you know when VZW will have evdo there?> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* well.. you'd still be> in the same boat> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* cingular is at 160kbps
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* vzw is at 120k> *[Visitor]* ohh> *[Visitor]* What about Sprint> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* about 115-120> *[Visitor]* What speed is EVDO where you are at?
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent] * 800k or 2600k with> SuperCharged! EVDO (compression)> *[Visitor]* It looks as if I have no options in NorCal> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* you may look at
> wispa.org > *[Visitor]* I will> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* wireless dsl...> *[Visitor]* I cannot figure wispa out
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* tell ya what..> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* what's your phone number?> *[Visitor]* 209-   983-  8974> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* i'll send in a request
> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* ok.. and what zip?> *[Visitor]* I appreciate that 95220> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* no prob...> *[Robert Kim, EVDO Consultant, Verizon Agent]* someone will probably
> get back to ya!> *[Visitor]* thx>>> --> Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor> http://evdo-coverage.com> 
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com> http://hsdpa-coverage.com>> 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101> Suite 102> Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007
> 206 984 0880-- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.com
http://wirelessinternetcoverage.comhttp://hsdpa-coverage.com2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101Suite 102Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007206 984 0880 
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