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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Patrick Leary wrote:
I agree that many WISPs have panned muni wi-fi instead of leveraging
their expertise. WISPs were arguably best positioned initially to
address this need. Smart VARs and resellers got busy though and
whether
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Check back in with us in a year and let us know how that cell data card
is working. If you thought the oversubscription on dialup lines was
bad
.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
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Check back
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Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
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Check back
http://www.wirelessmapping.com
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Check back in with us in a year and let us know how that cell data
Many WISPs have been too busy trashing the Muni-WiFi concept to look at
the opportunities. Who can blame ATT for taking advantage when most
WISPs turned up their noses. It is not too late for WISPs to get a
foothold in the Muni-WiFi arena if they try. Turning up their noses at
the idea will
It helps you because you get to be the muni wireless company rather than
a new player who may infringe upon your market share.
George
Matt Liotta wrote:
I think you may be taking your city's view about muni Wi-Fi and applying
it to the rest of the country. For example, if you read the Atlanta
George Rogato wrote:
It helps you because you get to be the muni wireless company rather
than a new player who may infringe upon your market share.
Even if we did do a deal with the city that wouldn't stop a new player
from entering the market. Again, without something of value provided by
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George Rogato wrote:
It helps you because you get to be the muni wireless company rather
than a new player who may infringe upon
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George Rogato wrote:
It helps you because you get to be the muni wireless company rather
than a new player who
Patrick Leary wrote:
I agree that many WISPs have panned muni wi-fi instead of leveraging
their expertise. WISPs were arguably best positioned initially to
address this need. Smart VARs and resellers got busy though and whether
WISPs realize it, almost all the VARs that serve the WISP community
, but the success of the Wi-Fi layer is beyond our control and
remains the questionable piece.
Patrick
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, August 30, 2006 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Matt,
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also
Patrick Leary wrote:
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see a successfully
scaled mesh network for low cost civic access. Philly and
: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Patrick Leary wrote:
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly
working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see a
successfully
scaled mesh
Actually you are also taking your own city's view and trying to say that
is all there is. My opportunity gets me a paid contract to deploy mobile
WiFi service into all police vehicles (even though it does not pay
much), use of street light poles, use of water towers, etc. I doubt
another
Matt Liotta wrote:
Patrick Leary wrote:
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see a successfully
scaled mesh network for low cost
Certainly I didn't mean to imply that Atlanta's RFP is the same as every
other city. However, almost all of the first tier cities have similar RFPs.
In regard to competition, remember that coverage doesn't matter; sales
matter. It is easy to compete with even established WISPs who have large
John Scrivner wrote:
Why should the networks all fail? If they provide easy mobile access
to WiFi then that is what you design and build them to do. That is
what I am doing. If the 4 nodes we turned on today in our downtown
provide me with the ability to find a business downtown through the
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Matt Liotta wrote:
Patrick Leary wrote:
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Patrick Leary wrote:
We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly
working
civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi
Our side of the network works well, and while the mesh side is not so
good for residential, nomadic users are using it as are some city
workers. So these networks will never be claimed to be a public failure.
Instead, you may
Tom DeReggi wrote:
My arguement is that the biggest prospective client for use of a mobile
network is the governement. If you give service to them free or without
financial contribution from them, its just plain stupid in my mind.
But what about cellular?
Aren't they posed best to take
data card built-in. grin
Best,
Brad
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Tom DeReggi wrote:
My arguement
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